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gsilvaptNot really, clivejo. I'm always asking for your guidance :) 00:09
gsilvaptAnd still can't figure out most of the stuff I want to do :)00:09
valoriebetter than not asking advice, and giving up in frustration00:10
valoriewe're a team, here to help one another out00:10
valorieoh gosh, I should go make dinner00:11
gsilvaptYes, but even still. I'm getting my feet in, I have so much to learn and do before actually do a good job :P 00:11
gsilvaptAlso, I have a virtual machine that I can access by ssh that was given to me recently and I have no usages for it. Any suggestion for the kde community? 00:13
gsilvaptI can host stuff or do something else but I'm not entirely sure what are priorities and what are the priorities 00:14
gsilvaptjust one priority at a time... :P00:14
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mparillo_tsimonq2: Thanks for asking for the Alpha ISOs in the -release channel.01:01
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mparillo_When our first Alpha 1 candidates appear, they will be here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/378/builds01:43
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ahoneybunacheronuk: what was that wayland package03:56
ahoneybun?03:56
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valorie!testers05:55
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping yofel, soee, Tm_T, BluesKaj, Quintasan, lordievader, mamarley, vip, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information.05:55
valoriewooop wooop, Alpha 1 is published: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/378/builds05:55
tsimonq2valorie: ML as well? :) :)05:55
valorienaturally!05:56
acheronukahoneybun: 'that' wayland package???05:56
valorieanybody wanna check over the news story?06:02
valoriejust published it, but it can be edited of course06:02
tsimonq2valorie: I would edit the call for testing to look less like the actual announcement06:07
tsimonq2valorie: It's a preliminary call for testing, not the actual release ;)06:07
valoriewhich one, tsimonq2?06:09
valorieoh, I can take out happy to announce06:10
valoriebut we're happy to announce it@06:10
tsimonq2valorie: http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-artful-aardvark-17-10-alpha-1/06:10
valoriedone06:11
tsimonq2valorie: Bueno06:11
valoriemucho bueno!06:11
tsimonq2Well06:11
tsimonq2Actually06:11
tsimonq2:P06:11
tsimonq2"This is Alpha 1 Release. Kubuntu Alpha Releases are NOT recommended for:"06:12
tsimonq2This is not Alpha 1 release.06:12
tsimonq2:P06:12
tsimonq2valorie: As long as you make the indication that it's a call for testing, it'll be cool06:13
valorieok06:13
valoriepicky picky06:13
tsimonq2valorie: The thing is, amigo, I'm not the only picky person out there.06:14
valoriefix00red06:14
tsimonq2There's a certain news site that likes to pick up on these sort of things, and I'm not talking about Softpedia... :|06:14
valoriegotta give him something to snark about, right?06:15
tsimonq2ofc, what else is he going to write about?06:15
valorieis school out for ya?06:15
tsimonq2Been out since the 9th!06:15
valorieour kids have another week06:17
tsimonq2valorie: Alpha 1 is a pre-release06:20
tsimonq2valorie: So sedding that didn't work :P06:21
valorieI missed one?06:33
valoriedamn it06:33
valorieI didn't06:34
valorierelease notes are release notes06:34
valoriealso I don't know how to sed06:35
tsimonq2valorie: Sedding meaning just swapping out words.06:36
tsimonq2valorie: Apologies if I sound blunt as I'll be going to bed shortly, but the announcement should probably be revised a bit06:36
valorieI know what it means06:36
valorieand I've used it when someone I trust gives me a "recipe"06:37
valorietell me and I'll do it06:37
tsimonq2What I'd do, personally:06:38
tsimonq2Change "Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 images are now available for testers." to "Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 images are now available for testing so we can release on Thursday."06:38
tsimonq2Remove "With this Alpha 1 pre-release, you can see what we have in store for our next version, 17.10."06:38
tsimonq2(save it for the official rel. ann)06:39
valorieI see what you are saying06:39
tsimonq2Same with "The Kubuntu team will be releasing 17.10 in October."06:39
tsimonq2Remove "NOTE:"06:39
valoriesorry, I've had so many deadlines that I thought this was it06:39
tsimonq2valorie: It's totally fine :)06:39
tsimonq2valorie: I mean if you catch my drift here, go forth and do :)06:39
valorieam doing06:40
tsimonq2valorie: Releases are always on Thursday+, initially on QA tracker/archive freeze/needs testing Sunday-Wednesday06:40
valorieright06:40
valoriepart of me knows that this is Tues night06:40
valoriethe rest of me is worried about mentors getting their evals done on time06:41
valorieon Thur06:41
valoriethat's why I prepped for this last week06:41
* acheronuk ponders on pushing 5.10.3 to backports06:41
valoriefor fer it06:44
valorieI've been running it most of the day with no problems06:44
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BluesKajHowdy all09:33
mparillo_Howdy BluesKaj. Alpha 1 RC 1 is up: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/378/builds10:14
mparillo_Live image is working for me in a VM. On the slide show it has Alt F1 for krunner. I use Alt F1 for the kicker, and Alt F2 for krunner. I assume that is standard?10:15
mparillo_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/170095110:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1700951 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "On the Kubuntu slide show it has Alt F1 for krunner. I use Alt F1 for the kicker, and Alt F2 for krunner." [Undecided,New]10:20
BluesKajmparillo_,ok, got it, zsyncing as we speak 10:28
gsilvaptHello10:48
gsilvaptTesting day, uh? :) 10:48
mparillo_Yup. One thing I might ask you to check on a clean install. Launch Discover, leave it open for maybe 2 minutes, and see it is checking for updates in the lower right. Then close it with the window decoration. In my case, it says Not responding for a few seconds, and then it closes with a crash notification.10:50
gsilvaptOk, I can try that. I think I have time to run all testcases, so when I get to that, I'll try do that 10:52
gsilvaptThese testcases and bugs we can report within a testcase are only related to the installation or also programs/software that is malfunctioning? 10:58
BluesKajmparillo_, it won't be a totally clean install, since i install to / and set the mountpoint for /home in the manual partitioning phase, so the config files for most apps will be saved from the previous install11:00
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mparillo_gsilvapt: My feeling is that if it relates in any way to our install or packaging, absolutely. If it is an upstream bug, I would file it there, and try to put a tracker to it on Launchpad.11:07
gsilvaptYea, makes sense 11:07
mparillo_And if it basically works, I tend to pass the test case, but record the launchpad bug number in the test case, but not as a critical one.11:09
gsilvaptIs it me or I suck at testing? I couldn't find anything relevant to post as bugs :| 11:43
clivejogsilvapt: usually have to dig deeper12:07
gsilvaptWell, in order to follow most of the scripts, I can't go deeper in all installations. I basically tried installing and running software to ensure it wasn't failing. Regarding specific package's bugs, I guess I need to spend more time inside each installation12:18
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Please take down that bug about krunner on the slideshow as that slide is not on there anymore12:18
gsilvaptahoneybun, what you mean? 12:20
clivejogsilvapt: did you get a chance to look at kgoldrunner?12:20
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> @acheronuk sorry gslivapt12:21
gsilvaptno, clivejo. As I said, I just installed and ran basic stuff (terminal, discover)12:21
gsilvaptits okay, ahoneybun :+1:12:21
clivejogsilvapt: its a packaging task, not testing12:21
gsilvaptAH12:22
gsilvaptI can have a look, yea. I'll be having lunch in short but can try to have a look after lunch12:22
BluesKajdamn zsync failed, guess html will have to do12:37
BluesKajtoo bad there aren't any torrents for alpha and beta releases, then  i could control the DL speed and not use up all the bandwidth while wife tries to play D&D online12:40
ahoneybunI see this is still there12:46
ahoneybunErrors were encountered while processing:12:46
ahoneybun update-notifier-common12:46
clivejoahoneybun: report it12:49
ahoneybunjust did12:49
clivejoits a Ubuntu issue12:49
ahoneybunit's our package I think12:49
clivejosince when?12:49
ahoneybunidk12:49
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier12:50
clivejoits the unity updater icon (I think)12:50
ahoneybunin their dock?12:51
ahoneybuntop panel I mean12:51
clivejoyou must have Unity installed or it is left over from that12:51
ahoneybunI don't12:51
ahoneybunnever did12:51
ahoneybunwell flashplugin-installer was removed with it12:52
clivejoReverse Depends:12:52
clivejo  update-notifier12:52
clivejo  flashplugin-installer12:52
clivejo  ttf-mscorefonts-installer12:52
clivejo  apt-config-auto-update12:52
clivejo  update-notifier-kde12:52
clivejo  reboot-notifier12:52
clivejo  apt-config-auto-update12:53
clivejo  update-notifier12:53
clivejo  byobu12:53
clivejo  ubuntu-server12:53
ahoneybunbyobu nooooo12:53
clivejoupdate-notifier-kde12:53
clivejonot in our packageset12:57
clivejoYou can not upload update-notifier to artful, yourself.12:57
clivejoso needs to go upstream12:57
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I wasn't going to try12:57
clivejowell you mentioned it here a number of times :P12:58
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> not that I was going to try to upload12:58
clivejoI was just testing that a kubuntu-devel was able to upload12:58
clivejowe can't12:59
clivejoso ever if we did fix it, still would have to go upstream12:59
clivejoeven12:59
ahoneybunjust removed it12:59
gsilvaptclivejo, I see kgoldrunner is a matter of dependencies, I'll take care of it this afternoon 14:09
clivejoyeah, its in the process of bing ported to KF514:11
clivejoso the dep packages need to be updated14:11
clivejothe ECM requirement is a sign they have ported to KF514:11
gsilvaptYes, I've noticed this one :D 14:12
clivejogrrr14:14
clivejo75 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.14:14
clivejoNeed to get 640 MB of archives.14:14
clivejothats my internet busy all afternoon14:14
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gsilvaptHow does one configures phonon4qt5? 15:54
gsilvaptI have this in the cmakelist: find_package(Phonon4Qt5 CONFIG REQUIRED)15:54
gsilvaptAnd that is causing some issues in the build15:54
gsilvaptbuild log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24973358/15:55
gsilvaptLine 4176 and onwards15:56
BluesKajhad a couple crashes, discover and system settings after installing Alpha, but none since installing the nvidia-340 driver and dkms18:13
BluesKajinstalled dkms first then thenvidia driver18:14
mparillo_On Dolphin, I went to Control > Help > Dolphin Handbook, and I see: Revision Applications 16.04 (2016-06-01) even though Dolphin is at Version 16.12.3 for the AA Alpha 1. I assume this is an upstream problem?18:28
ahoneybunmparillo_: yea they don't always update their docs to the right version18:36
mparillo_Thanks. Let's see if I get any answers to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38177019:58
ubottuKDE bug 381770 in general "Dolphin Handbook Revision does not match Dolphin Version" [Normal,Unconfirmed]19:58
gsilvaptAny suggestions about he question I asked this evening? 21:17
tsimonq2-- Found KF5: success (found suitable version "5.35.0", minimum required is "5.23.0") found components:  CoreAddons Config ConfigWidgets Crash DBusAddons DocTools I18n KIO XmlGui 21:24
tsimonq2CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:23 (find_package):21:24
tsimonq2  Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Phonon4Qt5" with21:24
tsimonq2  any of the following names:21:25
tsimonq2    Phonon4Qt5Config.cmake21:25
tsimonq2    phonon4qt5-config.cmake21:25
tsimonq2gsilvapt: ^21:25
gsilvaptInterpreting that part of the loo is actually my question.21:25
gsilvapt<gsilvapt> How does one configures phonon4qt5? 21:25
gsilvapt<gsilvapt> I have this in the cmakelist: find_package(Phonon4Qt5 CONFIG REQUIRED)21:25
gsilvapt<gsilvapt> And that is causing some issues in the build21:25
gsilvapt<gsilvapt> build log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24973358/21:25
gsilvapt<gsilvapt> Line 4176 and onwards21:25
gsilvaptLine 4176 onwards is basically that part you show there.21:26
tsimonq2gsilvapt: Ignore "find_package(Phonon4Qt5 CONFIG REQUIRED)" because that's just cmake finding the library21:26
tsimonq2gsilvapt: It's trying to find the config file for it21:26
gsilvaptI was focused in CONFIG REQUIRED part though21:26
tsimonq2gsilvapt: So yeah all you need to do is specify a build dep for Phonon4Qt5Config.cmake or phonon4qt5-config.cmake and you're golden21:27
gsilvaptOkay, thank you. That was my question. I wasn't sure if if was fixed with a package or an actual specific configuration somewhere in the debian folder.21:27
tsimonq2gsilvapt: i.e. put libphonon4qt5-dev in the build dependencies21:28
tsimonq2gsilvapt: Here's how I found that out: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=Phonon4Qt5Config.cmake&mode=exactfilename&suite=artful&arch=any21:28
gsilvaptSure, I got you now. I just wasnt' sure if this was something to add in debian/rules or the kgoldrunner.install file21:31
gsilvaptIt worked fine, tsimonq2. Thank you21:38
tsimonq2gsilvapt: \o/21:38
gsilvapttsimonq2, why can't I run sbuild if there is another folder exists within that directory?21:40
gsilvaptLike, I had the parent directory as package, and under it there was debian (of the source package) and package again (the packaging source). If I tried running sbuild, it would stop immediately. If I removed that folder, then it runs like a charm21:41
tsimonq2gsilvapt: Got a log?21:41
gsilvapt1 minute21:46
gsilvaptFind it here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24975573/21:49
tsimonq2gsilvapt: This isn't sbuild-specific21:52
tsimonq2gsilvapt: This package uses Quilt, and therefore is not expected to have any upstream modifications that aren't in a patch that's under debian/patches.21:53
gsilvaptHum, so there is a conflict between the fact both directories have debian files (control, rules, quilt, etc)21:54
tsimonq2gsilvapt: If it was a native package (which I recommend against doing but people do it anyways ^_^) then debuild would have no problem, because that means that debian/ is in the upstream dir.21:54
tsimonq2Could you run `ls -R | pastebinit` so I understand what you're referring to?21:54
gsilvapthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24975602/ ^21:56
tsimonq2Uhm, why is this the case?21:56
gsilvaptnot sure I understood the question22:00
tsimonq2gsilvapt: Why do you have that dir in the same place as a debian dir?22:05
tsimonq2Doesn't make sense to me.22:05
gsilvaptthe first dir is upstream. I make the changes and try building. The other directory is the kci's packaging one, that I mostly use to push changes upstream22:06
tsimonq2Move kgoldrunner up a dir and you'll be golden :)22:07
tsimonq2gsilvapt: But they really shouldn't be in the same dir22:07
gsilvaptI was trying to organize things to avoid having stuff everywhere22:08
tsimonq2Ok :)22:09
tsimonq2gsilvapt: I'd just create a parent dir that houses the KCI packaging, upstream, everything22:09
tsimonq2gsilvapt: I mean, that's what I do22:09
tsimonq2gsilvapt: But it's just one top-level dir 22:09
gsilvaptBut how do you manage organization?22:09
gsilvaptLike, you clone the upstream, do the changes, check it builds and then where will you store the KCI packaging? 22:10
clivejodo the same as git-clone-all22:10
clivejo<packagename>/git/debian/changelog22:10
tsimonq2clivejo: I dislike that method and here's why22:11
tsimonq2clivejo: There's so many subdirs it's crazy22:11
clivejoyour OCD?22:11
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clivejoyou're22:11
tsimonq2Absolutely. :P22:11
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gsilvaptAnd I think I am bit too :P 22:11
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clivejooh no22:12
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clivejoone Simon is bad enough22:12
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tsimonq2clivejo, gsilvapt: Example of a project I'm working on and how I organize it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24975871/22:13
gsilvapthaha22:14
gsilvaptThanks, tsimonq2 22:14
clivejowas there a podcast?22:15
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IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> yep22:22
clivejolink?22:22
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> we hit 350 now22:23
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32TeBG0TZ0Q22:23
clivejoholy cow22:23
clivejowhy have my fonts all changed :/22:25
clivejowho is the blond girl?22:25
clivejo350?22:26
clivejopoor girl!22:27
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @tsimonq2, What if you have to apply a patch with quilt?22:28
tsimonq2@Santa: https://raphaelhertzog.com/2012/08/08/how-to-use-quilt-to-manage-patches-in-debian-packages/22:28
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> eww quilt22:28
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @tsimonq2, I know how to use quilt, Simon. I mean you don't have the upstream code in the same directory than the debian packaging22:30
tsimonq2Well you *can* have it in the same directory, my point is, it's optional.22:31
IrcsomeBot<Santa> Then, how do you apply patches if you don't?22:32
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clivejoEmma looks scared22:39
IrcsomeBot<Santa> ?22:40
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clivejoLOL22:42
clivejoa fish maze!22:43
valorieclivejo: ?22:44
clivejoPodcast22:44
valorieah22:44
clivejoOvi explaining about goldfish memory22:44
clivejoand scientific experiments to test gold fish memory involving a fish maze 22:45
santa_ah22:45
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clivejomy desktop is so ugly!22:56
mparillo_Your desktop might be ugly, but my nick has a cute tail just like Santa's. Why I keep getting it, I do not know.23:02
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I got that beacause of all these freaking imposters23:03
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mparillo_Hmm, I wonder if there is an mparillo imposter on another freenode channel. I thought it should be sufficiently unique.23:12
clivejomy fonts are ugly in chrome :/23:12
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* santa_ goes back to the putin interviews23:18
gsilvaptputin is granted fun 23:19
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