[00:00] It simply creates another bootable liveusb again and not intalling it. [00:01] transhuman_: pastebin ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' and I will cross that result to the proper recommended driver . [00:02] Go Bashing! [00:02] lol [00:03] Maynard420: Honestly - choosing to install from the intall menu. I can not imagine what could be causing a copy of the installer to the internal drive . [00:03] I'm beginning to wonder what will happen to a 17'' laptop at 100+MPH? [00:04] Maynard420: :) .. surely can not be the lappie at fault . [00:04] Bashing-om: I'm right there with you. I don't get it. I even went so far as to go alllll the way back to 14.04 [00:04] No it's not....but it might make me feel better. [00:05] its the 340 found it already (which is what I already installed but it seems to freeze and mouse never appears [00:05] I have been sans pc for over a month now. FINALLY got somewhere to get my .iso checked and all's well. [00:05] ) [00:06] going to try and install from the source package from terminal as root [00:06] Bashing-om: You must be an Aussie. [00:06] Lappie lolol [00:06] I Love my Oz n Kiwi friends [00:07] Maynard420: Maybe they ( Aussies ) evolved from my stock ? .. be an Arkansas Ridge Runner . [00:08] BWAAAAAAAHAHAHA! I've NEVER heard an american call em lappies/lappys [00:09] So no one has a clue here? I figured out most of the bugs in 16.10 through forums and askubuntu. This one's got nothing though. [00:09] this (question)* [00:09] Much better than nappies. [00:10] I prefer wippies. [00:13] On a side note I even tried furiusisomount. THought it was a great idea. It will only allow the mountpoint to be the live session which as you probably already know. Does NOT work for anything. [00:14] Bashing-om: no ideas huh? [00:15] nacc looks like I have solved the file problem, now just to figure out why it isn't giving the hostname I wanted [00:16] Maynard420: Knpcking my head on the floor - not doing a bit of good . I have beverheard of such a thing . and sure can not think of a reasin why . Acer ? vendor lockin we have to work-a-round ? [00:17] Nope.... HP I have used before this as ubuntu for about 2 years now. [00:17] A frankenstein of a PC. Has no HDD. running all SSD in the form of flash lol [00:18] FrankenLappie!!! [00:19] Maynard420: OK, thought . SSD -> ya verify that AHCI is enabled in bios ? [00:20] AHCI? Don't recall ever seeing that option. 2006 BIOS here. Barely made it out in time for boot from USB. SDCard even is a nope on this. [00:20] Bashing-om: @ you ^^^^^^ [00:21] BIOS is set to boot from the USB first. [00:22] Legacy is off. UEFI ( or is it EFI?) is on. [00:22] Maynard420: I run a 2007 AMD board . Took me ages to find out how to set AHCI on it when I installed a SSD . Nothing explicit to tell . === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [00:22] nacc looks like I am hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/preseed/+bug/1452202 which is fixed in yakkety apparently [00:22] Launchpad bug 1452202 in netcfg (Debian) "ubuntu preseed install fails to set a hostname" [Unknown,New] [00:23] NO I meant my motherboard no longer reads from SATA I/O.... so I ditched the HDD and my "SS" is simply a 3.0 USB. [00:26] Any known issues with 14.04 and Unetbootin? [00:26] o/ [00:26] As in for creating a live USB for install? [00:27] Maynard420: yeah . have seen reported issyes with Unetbootin; maybe try rufus ? [00:27] Only for windows Rufus. Also I tried that with a friends' PC. [00:28] seems that tw.archive.ubuntu.com is broken I'm having 403 on each request :( [00:30] Really?! I've never once had an issue with unetbootin. Hence why I never even thought of it. Tried ( in the last few days) Rufus, Unetbootin, pendrive, universal USB installer, a couple others, power iso(?) annnnnnnd latest was my attempt with furiusisomount ( which won't work in Live mode). [00:30] * ko_lo will contact the noc from the university behind this mirror [00:32] BY-THE-WAY.... TO anyone WANTING A NEW INSTALL but don't wanna DL a whole other .iso and then make it bootable. ZSYNC seems to be the way to go. [00:34] Maynard420: Ho Kay . from the liveUSB . What shows ' sudo fdisk -lu ' / Does it see the second USB device ? [00:34] Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24967580 [00:34] thanks in advance [00:34] Very little info out there on it. You can have sayyyyy Kubuntu and you can find the http for your .iso.zsync and run zsync and it will only take what changes and leaves what you need but already have. [00:34] I think its supposed to be nvidia-340 [00:34] JUST SAYING.... [00:36] Yuppers. All visible. [00:37] transhuman_: Conformed ya want the 340 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html . Insalling from OEM is the means of last resort . clean up and try an install from the repo ? [00:38] Bashing-om: Hey just noticed this this time I ran fdisk... WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. [00:39] ^^^^ That's GParted right? [00:41] which repo, the one from inside ubuntu driver manager doesnt work it hangs on boot [00:41] Maynard420: Might see what ' gdisk ' sees . and from the liveusb .. might try 'mkusb' : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 . See how a native tool works out . [00:42] uninstalled neueve or whatever its called to see if that fixed it but it didnt [00:42] I am sick and tired of having crappy computer equipment thats incompatible with everything...sigh [00:44] I'm back, new problems. I just added a new disk to my LVM, everything seemed fine, went to reboot, and now the server locks up every time I try to boot it. I'm getting "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [python:1423]" [00:45] transhuman_: If we have conflicts in driver instalations; I can believe the system will balk . sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" and dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia - see what we have installed . [00:45] Bashing-om: BTW this is fdisk on the one I built with Rufus. Never seen it tagged quite like this. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [00:45] /dev/sdc1 * 2048 7831551 3914752 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) [00:46] "PID: 1423 Comm: python Tainted: G D L 4.4.0-81-generic #104-Ubuntu" [00:48] transhuman_: I installed a new nvidia card . count your blessings . as it took me days to discover that there is no open source driver for it ( 14.04 ). and I ran minimal, no way I was going to install all the dependencies that a proprietary driver called for ! [00:48] transhuman_: Apply Windows method. Move driver to 100+MPH. Rollback windows and throw the POS out the window. That's my next go to as well for me. [00:49] LOL.....ahhhhhh. I think it's time to get more medicated and Mota-vated. [00:51] I'm at a loss for why this would happen or be related. But after I successfully added the disk and rebooted, my internet went down for a few seconds, and when it came back I've been having this issue trying to get it to boot. [00:51] Occasionally I can get it to the login, but then within a second or two it immediately goes into these NMI watchdog errors [00:56] wyth: see above a few lines. Apply Windows method. JK i'd help if I even knew what NMI was.... just in case you needed a laugh. I know I do/did. [00:57] Maynard420: Yeah, I'm just at a loss for where to ever start trying to fix this. Aside from the timing of how things happened, I can't see at all why any of it would be related.. [00:58] Doing a fresh install I take it? [00:58] Maynard420: No, I was just upgrading the storage on my LVM with another hard drive. :-\ [01:00] Ok. Can't help there. Every LVM I set up failed on me so I'm the last person to ask on that. As I said try Windows method from above :-D [01:02] Bashing-om, do you know what the problem usually is when instead of loging out it goes back to gdm. or what every ubuntu uses [01:04] sorry instead of loggin IN not out [01:04] grub I think is what you mean [01:04] sorry just remembered its called lightdm [01:05] anyways instead of logging in it goes back to lightdm [01:07] transhuman_: Often times it is that "you" do not have the authority to access your desktop ' ls - al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' . that "you" are the owner and group here . [01:27] Laptop lid is closed ( sleep ), opened , keyboard is gone - no input is accepted . Surprises galore from the wonderOS (kubuntu), any more to expect? Any explanations? [01:27] all of a sudden, never before never after..had to reboot to get keyboard back...bizzarre [01:28] what if it was in the middle of something important? can this OS be relied upon? [01:30] I've got "kernel bug at /build/linux-cs3yMe/linux-4.4.0/drivers/scsi/sd.c:844!" Does this refer to something that somehow got changed/corrupted in my kernel? Is there a way to repair the kernel when you can't get booted? From the recovery mode option I tried the option to fix broken dpkg but there was no help there. [01:31] Not sure what steps I should try to take here. :( [01:40] is there a easy guide to compile a kernel? [01:43] wyth: Try zsync if you have a tiny bit corrupt it will only fix that part so you don't have to reinstall the whole. [01:44] koffel: why do you need to compile your own kernel? [01:44] Maynard420: I'll try looking that up [01:45] typical ' sudo apt-get install zsync ' if memory serves. [01:46] Maynard420: Can I do that from the root shell in the recovery kernel? Because I can't get the normal boot to do it [01:46] also here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage [01:46] *Can't get it to boot normally [01:47] right but you can get terminal or just in grub or what? I'm not totally savvy by any means. [01:47] leftyfb i have a gtx 1070 and there a patch to make it work [01:48] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/3ec622f409 [01:48] I just have spent the last 3 days finding. HOPEFULLY my solution. I stumbled across zsync.....never even heard of it before now. [01:49] Maynard420: I'm not really understanding how to use zsync to repair my kernel? [01:50] koffel: do you possess this "yet-to-be-named GPU chip"? [01:51] koffel: also, that commit is from over a year ago. I'm sure it's already part of the kernel [01:52] leftyfb i tried alota kernels none had it [01:52] It somehow made my casper/vmlinuz appear when I could see it but it was sa tiny bit of the path got corrupted. Just saying it's worth a try. [01:53] leftyfb card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: ID 83 Digital [ID 83 Digital] [01:54] I mean I found it but the bootloader couldn't until I ran zsync and it replaced the link/path to my root. [01:54] Rebooting.... wish me luck. [01:55] koffel: 375 version driver for that card : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/118290/en-us . It is in the 16.04 repo -> "sysop@x1604:~$ apt list nvidia-375 >> nvidia-375/xenial-updates,xenial-security,now 375.66-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd64 [installed]" . [01:56] i am using 14.04 [01:57] !info nvidia-375 trusty [01:57] nvidia-375 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-375): NVIDIA binary driver - version 375.66. In component restricted, is optional. Version 375.66-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 38820 kB, installed size 160228 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf) [01:58] driver not issue kernel don't see it correctly === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [02:44] Ugh. Tried updating the kernel, no difference. I haven't gotten anywhere :( [02:49] Hello all - I am back [02:50] Hi [02:50] I was trying to figure stuff out with VNC before [02:51] I forgot with whom I was speaking [02:51] wyth: I would look into hardware issues. Mainly power supply. [02:53] heh - leftyfb was one person! :) [02:53] Leftyfb: I have test two solutions and wish to try to merge them! [02:53] test=tested [02:54] wyth: I found a post on google where someone was getting a similar error and ended up resolving it by replacing the PS. You also pointed out you lost internet. I'm going to guess there might have been a power surge/brownout. [03:03] leftyfb: I also came across the post. I tried re-seating it in hopes that would fix it, but had no luck [03:04] leftyfb: It was strange, because I didn't lose any power to the router/modem or anything. Just seemed like at the same time the server rebooted it locked up the internet temporarily [03:05] wyth: electricity can be a funny thing [03:05] linux_user: no pm's please [03:05] goodnight all [03:05] leftyfb: Very true. As this is made out of an old macbook I may end up be SOL :( [03:06] I commented out the line in fstab that would mount the lvm, and now it appears to at least be able to get ssh'd into [03:28] are there any VNC experts still on? [03:40] hi [03:40] how can I disable hyperthreading if it is not available in the bios? [03:47] hyperthreading build in the cpu itself [03:55] is there a system resource monitor that tracks memory io? [03:55] like iotop but for ram? [04:04] thewillo: both top and htop show memory usage, is that what you mean by 'memory io'? [04:05] no I mean input and output, like how much data is going to and from ram [04:06] So I'm stuck. I added a new disk to my lvm, rebooted, and now I keep getting cpu lockups every time I try to boot. If I comment the line out in fstab I can get it to boot, but as soon as I try mounting it the same thing happens again. I ran e2fsck on the volume and everything appears fine.. [04:08] thewillo: you could use 'free' with the -s switch, but that doesn't output per process [04:11] ahh, better than noting [04:35] thewillo: had to dig around in my notes, I once had a need to view RAM usage per program and i used https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pixelb/ps_mem/master/ps_mem.py .. something like 'watch -n2 sudo ps_mem.py' might be more informative than parsing thru 'free' all the time [04:35] thanks glitsj16 !!!! [04:35] thewillo: oh no problem, you're welcome :) [04:45] Where do I go, if I want an ubuntu image that can boot after a DD on a USB [04:45] Ubuntu server [04:45] chamunks, do you have a UEFI based computer? [04:46] It's an old lenovo thin client. [04:46] I don't think its UEFI [04:46] thewillo ^ [04:46] Oh, then I am not sure you can dd it to a usb [04:47] thewillo, It will boot from the USB [04:47] you can certainly install unetbootin in linux, and use it.. I've noticed it doesn't work with iso's a lot of the time, but will work if you tell it to download the image directly to the usb [04:47] like, it has a selection of MANY linux os, and you pick one, and it downloads it to the usb then installs a bootloader [04:47] I'm just trying to avoid having to install this thing twice. I don't even plan on messing with whatever is currently in the thin client for a HDD. [04:48] Also I'm installing from a mac. [04:48] oh... [04:48] Was using ddrescue gui because I know how to use DD but prefer a clicky interface where I'm not going to bork my OS by pointing the firehose in the wrong direction by accident. [04:49] Which is unlikely I know but still paranoia keeps me problem free, most of the time. [04:49] thewillo so the only stuff that I've found remotely close to what I'm looking for are these .img cloud images. https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/ === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [04:50] let me look at them [04:50] I have to download one to see how they are formatted [04:51] ~1 minute left [04:51] I think the UEFI one is likely the closest that I'm going to get but I think it's just a vanilla bios. [04:51] I know that there are distros that are capable of this but I was hoping to avoid digging around for strange OS's [04:52] UEFI I asked about because it doesn't require any tools, just extract the files to a fat32 formatted usb and it boots [04:52] ah neat [04:53] I suppose UEFI's are supposed to make things easier I'd imagine. [04:54] The idea is cute and all but its a bit frustrating that M$oft got their paws into it. [04:56] UEFI has advantages [04:56] MS has secureboot in UEFI but almost every UEFI firmware lets you disable secureboot while still using UEFI, it just doesn't check for signed kernels [04:57] ok, yes you can dd the cloud images [04:57] they are only the root partition though, you will have to install a bootloader somehow [04:58] Hmm. [04:58] I was hoping for an experience similar to how raspbian works. [04:58] Oh, I just noticed unetbootin works on OSX [04:58] Download and do boot and install appliance and accomplish goal. [04:58] Yep :) [04:59] so get unetbootin, and use it... I'm pretty sure you have to download using unetbootin, because the last bunch of times I used it, it wouldn't work properly with isos [04:59] fair well I suppose that makes the most sense. I figured I'd just look for whatever would work out of the box if it would. [04:59] wait you using OSX... are you on a mac? [05:00] or is it hackintosh? [05:00] I'm installing from a mac yes. [05:00] on OSX [05:00] you're installing to the mac, or just using it to make the boot media? [05:01] If you're installing on a mac I'm pretty sure you need to take special measures not needed for pc [05:03] ugh, I need red bull [05:03] Yea theres some interesting things about how a mac works but its a hell of a lot easier to deal with than a windows OS [05:03] mac uses it's own EFI variant [05:03] it's not compatible with UEFI [05:03] But the UI is much more polished than Windoze 10 [05:03] If i had to chose between them I'd chose windows 10 [05:04] unless I got to use leopard with newer versions of apps [05:04] leopard was the point where OSX was the perfect balance of performance and features [05:04] after leopard it started getting really bloated [05:05] I suppose that I've never seen that early OS X [05:05] 10.5 I believe [05:05] 10.4 was tiger, also very good [05:05] I just can't stand how twitchy the UI is and how unstable the company is I avoid all microsoft products if at all possible. [05:05] Windows 10 is actually a lot better than any other windows version imo [05:06] nice [05:06] I think you're right there. [05:06] yeah, altough it too is bloated [05:06] I mean, when I tweak windows 8.1 for my usage, it uses 200-300 mb of ram not including programs, windows 10 uses 800+ [05:07] If it werent for the screwy BS they're pulling I think that I might be vaguely interested in considering using it again. [05:07] windows 8.1 was just as good as 10 but lacks some features I personally want [05:07] windows 8 was horrible [05:07] windows 7 was too featureless [05:07] I was privy to windows 7 personally. [05:07] Mostly because it had stability and the ability for me to remove all of the bloat using RT7Lite [05:08] I managed to get that installed in less than a gig or something. [05:08] Fit my 60gig SSD a bit better. [05:08] windows xp was too unstable and insecure, windows 2000 was good but again featureless, windows 98ME was a nightmare people still talk about, windows 98 was buggy, same for 95, NT4 was for servers mostly, 3.1... man 3.1 brings back some old memories [05:08] and I never used anything pre-3.1 [05:09] Im running on a 2015 macbook pro [05:09] Theres a few things to consider with 17.04 [05:09] backlight, fans, and facetime camera [05:09] I'm running on a really crummy acer laptop [05:09] I have most of it scripted to install the fixes necessary [05:09] ok well thanks for the suggestion for unetbootin [05:09] otherwise, an ubuntu installation directly on the machine is as you would any other intel machine [05:09] sure man, yeah it's the tool I use [05:10] I was just mostly wondering if there was some kind of official thing for it. [05:10] unetbootin is the slowest pos in the world [05:10] roobi doesn't have to be fast just reliable. [05:10] ^ true [05:10] how is unetbootin slow? [05:10] I mean it might be good if I could image a pile of disks at the same time. [05:10] you mean their download servers? [05:11] no, i mean its write spead compared to just direct dd [05:11] speed* [05:11] I've never found unetbootin to be slow, I used it to download ubuntu to a usb a few weeks ago, took like 20 minutes [05:11] 20 minutes [05:11] thats slow [05:11] 20 minutes, when it takes 16-18 to download the iso [05:11] and that 20 includes using unetbootin to download the image [05:11] hmmm im spoiled than [05:12] maybe:P [05:12] takes me 2-3 minutes to dload the iso [05:12] I used to have internet that fast, but it got too expensive [05:12] and I expect a USB3 speed to write that iso to usb in just about the same time [05:12] My USB's are all slow [05:12] once you 3 [05:12] you never go back [05:12] lol [05:12] I don't have any fast ones [05:13] I have usb 3 drives... but they aren't fast because the storage they use is slower than usb3 supports [05:13] i get picky with it because I run SSD's internally and shouldnt see a hinderence in speed with writing to an external drive/flash-drive [05:14] I think they just made it USB3 so people would buy them thinking they were better, when usb2 would be more than enough for their speed [05:14] unetbootin on mac is terrible [05:14] everything is terrible [05:14] even if you ahve a usb3 installed and OSX sees it... it still writes at 2 [05:14] mac is terrible [05:14] thats one perspective [05:14] mac is just an intel chipset [05:14] mac is the worst for security [05:14] with minimal differences in protocol stacks to include thundershit [05:14] mac is a unix machine [05:14] Is it? [05:14] I mean its just 80% Unix 20% apple [05:15] and its no differently targeted than windows [05:15] Anyways [05:15] I've talked with the head of their security research department about some malware I found, they really don't care about malware [05:15] its just that user permission and machine permission separations are different for unix and windows systems [05:15] historically making windows machines more susceptable to malware and stuff [05:15] thewillo watch f-secure's new software that they usurped from Johnathan Zdarski after he got hired by apple. [05:15] It used to be called LittleFlocker [05:16] Like, I found a virus so rare and talked about it was considered a myth, and I had a HDD image of it and a memory dump and a firmware dump... and they didn't want it for the sake of research and future security patches [05:16] Now it's something else idk. [05:16] thewillo: sounds like it was a moot virus [05:16] then the supposid myth tuned out to be in that huge leak of CIA hacking tools [05:16] You realize you could take it to that zeroday project that google runs. [05:16] it was badbios roobi [05:16] lul [05:16] Responsibly disclose it there and if it doesn't work then publish it. [05:16] My friend got it on his macbook somehow [05:17] your friend got it? [05:17] somebody visited your friend [05:17] the only way badbios can be loaded is physically if I remember correctly [05:17] It was probably a drive-by download [05:17] from rigged external adapters [05:17] No that's thunderstrike [05:17] yea your right [05:18] ahh well, I guess thats why you should creste your own signed machine certificates, use disk encryption, and only boot with secure boot + uefi [05:18] badbios is the virus that infects your firmware so that it reinstalls itself every time you reinstall osx, and blocks you from doing anything to remove it [05:18] uefi secure boot is basically worthless if its not done with secure certs anyhow [05:18] it actively fights you at every step of trying to get rid of it [05:19] can it defeat my super magnet? [05:19] lol [05:19] like an actual highly magentized piece of metal? [05:19] yes, it was a joke [05:20] okay, sorry, i'm not good with humor [05:20] have you treid robin williams? [05:20] the only things i find funny are fail videos and fail compilations and comedy where the punchline is someone failing at something [05:21] I don't like standup [05:21] So the slow demise of the human race is what makes you laugh? [05:21] We can be friends. [05:21] I laugh when I get punched in the face too [05:22] I think it's funny cause it means I failed to remember my martial arts training [05:22] oh yea? [05:22] Get a copy of "The Darwin Awards" :) [05:22] so yeah, basically failing at things is funny, even when I do it [05:24] Unetbootin is failing to see my USB drive, what a swine [05:25] did you put the drive in before or after you started unetbootin? [05:25] because it doesn't detect plugging them in [05:25] you gotta have it plugged in before you start unetbootin [05:25] restarted the app a few times and formatted / initialized the thing too. [05:25] oh... [05:25] grumble [05:25] did you try(if it still has) the option to show all drives not just usb? [05:25] could be detecting it wrong [05:26] unfortunately no option. [05:26] oh, it used to have an option for that [05:26] do you have another usb to try? [05:26] this ones a brand new samsung [05:27] well, try another one if you have one [05:27] hmm well I'll try tinkering for a while I kind of need to use this one as it's the only one of the size that I need. [05:27] o [05:27] okay [05:27] Might also look for an alternative distro. [05:27] hrm [05:27] how big is your usb? [05:28] i could make a usb with unetbootin, then dd the image of it, and send it to you [05:28] that would be very kind of you but dw about it I'll do some reading for a bit. [05:28] see what I can get done. [05:28] okay, i'll be online for a while... highlight me if you change your mind [05:30] thewillo had to format the disk using disk util first to ms-dos (fat32) partition [05:30] Showed up now. [05:30] ahh, perfect [05:34] thewillo what is the difference between netinstall and hdmedia again? [05:35] I don't know what hdmedia is, netinstall lets you pick a package or packages to install from the online repo's.. it's just an installer that downloads whichever ubuntu variant and features you select [05:36] can you run directly off of a netinstall? [05:36] The key here is I need to just do a thing on this mac to be able to boot this USB drive for the life of the machine. [05:37] what do you mean run direcrly off a netinstall [05:37] define run directly [05:38] I don't want to have to run through an installer and partition thing I just want to copy an OS to the USB drive that can be run similarly to a live distro but not a live distro so much as a native distro. [05:38] Similar to how raspbian works. [05:38] You just kind of DD that .img file to the USB/SD media device and plug it in to your raspberry pi [05:38] Boot and go. [05:38] netinstall can not be used as a live distro, it can be used to install to a USB, but I don't think it works for the one it's installed to [05:38] ok so thats still no solution to my problem then. [05:38] so you put netinstall on one of those other usb's that you said is too small, and install to the target usb [05:39] Yea except I'm trying to avoid that entire situation. [05:39] make sure to select the right device when it's time to install the bootloader [05:39] oh [05:40] well, you can't unless you use unetbootin to make a live-cd with persistent storage(It keeps a part of [or all of] the USB reserved for saving changes you make, which override the files in the live image [05:40] HdMedia option, and then place the alternate install iso file on the root directory of your hard drive or USB drive [05:40] This doesn't even really tell me what it does. [05:40] Just that it boots the disk I guess. [05:41] I mean "I can't" doesn't really have to apply exactly because raspbian works exactly like this. [05:43] q [05:43] screw it I'm going to just install it to the thin client. [05:43] !ltsp | chamunks [05:43] chamunks: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project [05:44] thin-clients [05:45] so sex [05:45] very terminal [05:45] much centralized compute [05:45] Turning it into a very low power server. [05:46] Got a free rack and fiber but gotta pay for electricity. [05:46] Just want to park something in there that'll run a few things for now. [06:01] I am running Ubuntu Studio 16.04. I want to install webcamoid 8.0.0 but the version in the 16.04 repositories is only 6.2.0 but apparently version 8.0.0 is in the Ubuntu 17.10 repositories. Can I install from there? Alternatively it's in Debian Testing and Debian Unstable. [06:02] EleanorEllis: You dont want to mix packages like that. Either look for a PPA that has packages for 16.04, or compile it yourself if you must have a newer version [06:03] hateball: Thanks [06:03] EleanorEllis: As per their instructions https://github.com/webcamoid/webcamoid/wiki/Build-and-install-the-Debian-package [06:04] PPA = shit! [06:22] well this is troubling the thin client doesn't seem to recognize the os on the drive. [06:42] I have here a UEFI Bios, GPT, Ubuntu17.04 and a BTRFS root. Machine doesn't boot and BIOS lists "ubuntu" twice for some reason. I get to the Grub shell, but doesn't look like I can Tab complete to the config file. Anything obvious I am missing? Do I need to manually insert modules for btrfs or GPT? [07:06] I'm on Ubuntu 17.04 in thought I installed KDE Desktop ,but go when I go to login I don't have kde as an option. [07:07] try installing it again... if it says it's already installed then I don't know /me shrugs [07:16] Where are the size and position of an application window stored in Unity? For example Firefox has the same size and position as when it was closed. Where is this information persisted? === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [07:55] hey, got problems with the dns resolution [08:07] fl0k1: more specifically? which ubuntu version and flavour are you using? [08:17] Tichodroma: There isn't a central place where Unity stores window size/pos info (neither do other DE's). Some apps save it in their settings (usually under ~/.config), some in dconf, some don't keep it at all and leave it up to the window manager. Firefox happens to keep window placement details in xulstore.json in its profile dir. [08:21] glitsj16: thanks, I'll take a look [08:22] Tichodroma: But unity is a compiz implementation, and via ccsm you can set some defaults for new windows iirc, even per window settings are possible. Been a while since I've used ccsm, can't remember the exact item names.. [08:22] glitsj16: it would be nice if TP support an easy way to reset the size to the default size [08:23] Tichodroma: TP being short for? [08:24] TB, sorry: Tor Browser [08:24] Tichodroma: ow yes, don't know if it has such a setting [08:25] I warns you when you change the window size but I did not find a way to reset it once I've changed it by accident [08:26] Tichodroma: probably a fingerprinting thing TB uses, apparently trackers can and do use window size/pos info for that purpose [08:27] * anti-fingerprinting measure [08:27] yes, that is the reason I want to revert it and blend back into the crowd :) [08:29] Tichodroma: i see :) .. maybe you can check what it sets on a fresh install [08:30] Tichodroma: I don't have TB installed, otherwise I'd take a peek [08:30] a fresh install would consist of deleting the unpacked TB directory and unpacking a new one. That I've done in the past, no change. So the window size is persisted somewhere else. [08:33] til: xulstore.json ... FF is a big code base === To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne is now known as ToAruShiroiNeko [08:35] Tichodroma: you might be able to control TB's window geometry outside of it though, like via ccsm or a devilspie rule [08:36] capella: indeed, come to think of it, xulstore.json might be a generated file, wouldn't even be in th code base [08:37] next time I restart TB I will move xulstore.json out of the way and see what happens [08:41] glitsj16: might have lost you, but I didn't mean literally ... I worked with FF a bit and never bumped into that thingy [08:41] "FF still surprises me" [08:43] capella: yes it's a file which gets re-generated when you blow it away, just checked.. I guess when FF moves away from XUL that will be changing as well [08:43] heh ... finkle bailed before he had to deliver on that XD [08:44] I still like FF though, but my reasons might be more sentimental than rational :p [08:44] yah mine too, I love to hate that thing [08:45] favorite method? kungFuDeathGrip(); :) [08:45] lol [08:46] sounds effective [08:46] grabs a hard ref and blocks dynamic GC ... comes in handy and I loved that they allowed the name in the codebase XD === rud0lf is now known as waterfly === waterfly is now known as rud0lf [08:54] How do I find out if the computer was booted with BIOS or UEFI? [08:56]