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meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jun 29 15:01:45 2017 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:01
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:01
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:02
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slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e doko bdmurray slangasek infinity sil2100 cyphermox tdaitx xnox mwhudson rbalint rcj philroche Odd_Bloke Tribaal fginther)15:02
slangasekfginther mwhudson Odd_Bloke doko infinity Tribaal xnox slangasek bdmurray rcj sil2100 cyphermox philroche rbalint tdaitx15:02
slangasekaaaaand go15:02
* sil2100 starts running15:02
fginthernothing to speak of this week15:02
fgintherdone15:02
slangasekOdd_Bloke: next!15:02
Odd_BlokeI was on vacation.15:03
Odd_BlokeVery productive.15:03
Odd_Blokedone15:03
TribaalHighlight: Refactoring a bunch of things in the build system (\o/)15:03
doko- uploaded binutils to artful (trunk), fixing fall-out15:03
doko- updated GCC 6 again, fixing kernel build issue on arm6415:03
doko- some syncs and merges15:03
doko(done)15:03
infinity* All sorts of archive cleanup, making sure uninst stays at 0 (well, currently at 1, thanks Steve)15:04
infinity* Drive NBS almost down to 0 (2 more to go)15:04
infinity* More xenial HWE X reviews (and more to come)15:04
infinity* Back-and-forth with Andy, iterating on 4.10 linux-hwe (final iteration in flight as we speak)15:04
infinity* Debug glibc autopkgtest regression with new binutils (upload pending)15:04
infinity* Some SRU processing (these brackets left intentionally blank)15:04
infinity* A bit of archive recovery when SOMEONE broke gcc (doko, it was doko)15:04
infinity* Will be off Monday for the Canada Day long weekend (drunk on maple syrup)15:04
infinity(done)15:04
dokojust syrup?15:05
bdmurrayTribaal: ?15:05
Odd_BlokeWhen you're snorting it, syrup is all you need.15:06
* chiluk lurks 15:06
xnoxbah15:06
xnox#highlight SOTA - OCaml 4.04 transition in progress15:06
xnoxPublishing WSL app, should be finally in the store soon for Insiders.15:06
xnoxStarting work on subiquity, poking subiquity code / probert / booting on s390x (many bugs in infra, livefs builders, cloudimages, maas images, s390x-specific)15:06
xnoxWill be looking into adding vlan support into subiquity, whilst the s390x infra bugs are fixed.15:06
xnoxsystemd - cve fix for artful, together with fallback fix uploaded (pending adt testing)15:06
xnoxintel-microcode backport done as an SRU for zesty15:06
xnoxship laptop to replace battery - not sure if i should ever use that laptop once it comes back15:06
xnoxAbEnd 0C715:06
chilukxnox what's the plan on the SRU for everything else?15:07
chilukthat microcode issue may not be the most pressing, but it definitely has gotten a lot of press.15:08
gaughenchiluk, would you bring me some of your amazing coffee please? I hear it's great.15:08
slangasek * discussions around team organization15:08
slangasek * preparations/discussions for 16.04.3 and linux-hwe15:08
slangasek * thinking deeply about proposed-migration issues15:08
slangasek * next week: off Mon, Tue for the Independence Day holiday15:08
slangasek(done)15:08
slangasekbdmurray:15:08
bdmurrayinvestigation into test_core_dump_packaged apport test failure15:08
bdmurrayuploaded apport test fixes for x/y/z and upstream15:08
bdmurraycleanup of processes on cranberry due to high load RT15:08
chilukgaughen:  did you c-tab again?15:08
bdmurraymerge sil2100's bugbot changes for v-done tagged bugs15:08
bdmurraybugbot: Fix sru_verification_policy_change's call to bug.newMessage15:08
bdmurraybugbot: Fix sru_verification_policy_change's comment criteria15:08
bdmurrayinvestigation into whoopsie bug LP: #169737515:08
rcjgaughen: Lunch tomorrow is chicken fried steak for chiluk15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1697375 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "crash reports are not uploaded automatically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169737515:08
bdmurrayspecial SRU release of nplan for 16.0415:08
bdmurraysearched for duplicates of gnome-software bug LP: #167943515:08
bdmurrayreported bug re aptdaemon's crash handler LP: #170081015:08
bdmurrayreported update-manager bug LP: #1700829 re -d switch15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1679435 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Zesty) "GNOME Software fails to install .deb packages that trigger debconf prompts" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/167943515:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1700810 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "aptdaemon's crash.py file may no longer be working" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170081015:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1700829 in update-manager (Ubuntu Artful) "-d switch doesn't accurately describe itself" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170082915:09
bdmurraymerged MP regarding some ubuntu-manual-tests typos15:09
bdmurrayinvestigation into unattended-upgrades bug LP: #169098015:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1690980 in OEM Priority Project "No pop-up window to warn users that system should not reboot or shutdown while installing security updates" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169098015:09
bdmurray✔ done15:09
rcjrcj:15:09
rcj* mfdiff vastly upgraded, fixed, etc now with python3 support15:09
rcj  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/vmbuilder/mfdiff/revision/1915:09
rcj* lots of MP reviews15:09
rcj* started refactoring cloud-image build release automation15:09
rcj✔ done15:09
Tribaalohh "lots of MP reviews" too :)15:09
* Tribaal piggybacks15:09
sil2100- Low-productive Monday due to cold aftermath15:09
sil2100- Fixed my internal kernel SRU notification script to not spam me with e-mails on an edge case15:09
sil2100- Backporting Balint's gce-compute-image-packages to stable releases15:09
slangasekdoko: hey, did you see my IRC ping some time ago about the pillow transition from experimental being stuck in -proposed?15:09
sil2100- ubuntu-image:15:09
sil2100  * Prepare and test PR for fixing classic confinement15:10
sil2100  * Work on the implementation spec for classic images15:10
sil2100  * Reviewing some patches15:10
sil2100- SRU:15:10
sil2100  * Fixed all verification-done bugs to the new standard15:10
sil2100  * Sent out an announcement and ran one-shot script to inform old SRUs of the policy change15:10
sil2100  * HIGHLIGHT (?): SRU bug verification rules changed15:10
sil2100- New kernel re-spin review and release15:10
sil2100- Building new images for plano ubuntu-core15:10
sil2100(done)15:10
dokoslangasek: Not touching package due to block request by freeze (contact #ubuntu-release if update is needed)15:10
doko?15:10
infinityThat freeze should be lifted soon, I assume.15:12
philroche* Build system refactoring15:12
philrochedone15:12
rbalint* short week15:12
rbalint* cloud-init/systemd changes https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/32625215:12
rbalint* image minimizing LP: #170097215:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1700972 in linux (Ubuntu) "Please only recommend or suggest initramfs-tools | linux-initramfs-tool for kernels able to boot without initramfs" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170097215:12
rbalint* livecd-rootfs changes LP: #1700995, LP: #170113215:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1700995 in vmdk-stream-converter (Ubuntu) "[MIR] vmdk-stream-converter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170099515:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1701132 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Please use xz instead of pxz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170113215:12
rbalint* new upstream releases for Debian unstable with scrubbing bugs: kodi, wireshark15:12
rbalint(no highlights for now)15:12
rbalint(done)15:12
tdaitxShort week: half-day on Friday, out on Monday15:12
tdaitx+1 maintenance:15:12
tdaitx- libqmi (LP: #1699599),python-pysam (LP: #1701268), eclipse-mylyn (LP: #1652759)15:12
tdaitxOther:15:12
tdaitx- got rid of the jet lag today \o/15:12
tdaitx- curious as to why do we even carry such an old eclipse version...15:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1699599 in libqmi (Ubuntu) "libqmi 1.18.0-1 FTBFS when building against glib2.0-2.53.1-1 (or later)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169959915:12
tdaitx(done)15:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1701268 in python-pysam (Ubuntu) "[FTBFS] python-pysam fails to build due to htslib update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170126815:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1652759 in libcommons-lang-java (Ubuntu) "eclipse-mylyn 3.12.0-2 FTBFS (Unable to find plug-in: org.apache.commons.lang_0.0.0)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165275915:13
bdmurrayI think that's everyone slangasek15:14
bdmurraychiluk: Did your question get answered?15:15
chilukbdmurray: not really.. but I think rbasak is taking point on that one.15:15
slangasekdoko: you dropped the python-imaging package, and it has revdeps15:16
dokoahh, that one. I'll have a look15:16
slangasekAny questions over status?15:16
chilukno one is actually assigned to any of the tracks in lp 170037315:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1700373 in intel-microcode (Ubuntu Yakkety) "intel-microcode is out of date, version 20170511 fixes errata on 6th and 7th generation platforms" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170037315:16
xnoxchiluk, would you like to prepare sru for the other series?15:17
chilukYeah I can do that.15:17
slangasektdaitx: any fixes for those bugs in need of sponsorship?15:17
xnoxchiluk, cool.15:17
chilukalthough I feel like i've missed some of the conversation xnox.15:17
tdaitxslangasek, no, might need for libcommons-lang-java soon (as soon as the reverse dependencies are all re-build)15:18
chilukxnox... we need to get it fixed at least in Xenial imho.... Trusty is a different beast altogether, but probably should get it as well.15:18
slangasektdaitx: ok15:19
slangasekno other questions?15:20
slangasek[TOPIC] Bug triage15:22
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chilukI'm good...15:22
slangasek[LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:22
bdmurraydoko: Do you have any plans to SRU the fix for bug 1682934?15:22
ubottubug 1682934 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "python3 in /usr/local/bin can cause python3 packages to fail to install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168293415:22
xnoxchiluk, yeah, so zesty microcode is in proposed. yakkety well, it may go eol soon enough, no?! but xenial is good.15:23
dokobdmurray: hmm, I didn't. do you want to see it there?15:23
chilukxnox by xenial is good.. you mean that we should put it in xenial correct?15:23
xnoxchiluk, trusty - microcode was in multiverse, not restricted. and it's very out of date, i do not think we should be updating it.15:23
xnoxchiluk, as e.g. that microcode will break e.g. running .0 xenial containers / chroots15:24
bdmurraydoko: I think so since it is causing upgrade failures.15:24
chilukI'm in agreement with you about trusty... I think..15:24
xnoxdue to lock ellision bug.15:24
chilukxnox.. i'm not privy to that bug.15:25
chilukSo let me make sure I understand this... a trusty host running xenial containers or chroots could potentially load the new microcode from the container due to a lock ellision bug?15:26
bdmurrayWith bug 1646739 it looks to me like it might be the issue where the debconf prompt is never presented.15:26
ubottubug 1646739 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Use of uninitialized value" in debconf via update-manager" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164673915:26
bdmurrayI feel like there are a lot of duplicates of gnome-software not supporting debconf dialogs buried in LP.15:27
slangasekwell, update-manager vs. gnome-software so different package15:27
slangasekupdate-manager should add the Depends on libfoo-perl15:27
xnoxchiluk, no15:28
xnoxchiluk, false15:28
bdmurrayUnfortunately, afaict there isn't a great way to figure out if it is update-manager or gnome-software calling aptdaemon.15:28
slangasekI think there is a bug open about that, bdmurray ?15:28
bdmurrayslangasek: Did you see chttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php7.0/+bug/1646739/comments/2115:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1646739 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Use of uninitialized value" in debconf via update-manager" [Critical,Confirmed]15:28
slangasekbdmurray: right, but previously both update-manager and gnome-software had the bug, so we should make sure it's fixed in the packaging for both and then maybe mark all the rest of the existing bugs as duplicates of one or the other (at random)?15:30
slangasekand then if we get new bugs, that tells us something else15:30
bdmurrayslangasek: Part of the issue is that we don't know which version of u-m or g-s was in use with the given logs.15:32
slangasekright15:32
slangasekbdmurray: if we fix the update-manager deps, can we track error rates to see if it tapers off as people upgrade to the SRU?15:33
bdmurraytrack the rate of errors of package install failures where $reply is uninitialized?15:34
slangasekbdmurray: also, should we log a bug that aptdaemon should have something in its protocol that asks the client to identify itself, so it can be logged? :/15:34
slangasekbdmurray: yeah15:34
bdmurrayslangasek: yes something with aptdaemon needs to change and maybe RelatedPackageVersions should include g-s and u-m15:35
slangasekbdmurray: there's also the other bug, where if you close the frontend GUI and aptdaemon is still running, the other end of the debconf socket is disconnected and things will break15:35
slangasekbdmurray: right15:35
bdmurrayslangasek: What is the update-manager dep you are referring to?15:36
slangasekbdmurray: update-manager should depend on libgtk2-perl, independently of gnome-software and software-properties-gtk depending on it15:37
bdmurrayack15:37
slangasekbdmurray: anything else on incoming bugs?15:39
bdmurrayslangasek: Not on incoming, but I could use some assistance with bug 1690980.15:40
ubottubug 1690980 in OEM Priority Project "No pop-up window to warn users that system should not reboot or shutdown while installing security updates" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169098015:40
slangasekbdmurray: assigned!15:44
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:44
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slangasekanything else?15:44
slangasek#endmeeting15:45
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Jun 29 15:45:07 2017 UTC.15:45
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slangasekthanks, all!15:45
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