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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:04
DJonesInteresting article http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/30/nhsbuntu_nhs_revolution/14:50
daftykinspenguin42: when i raised cropping back the house phone lines the other day, here's the result! check out my war time connections :) http://imgur.com/a/O0yRr18:01
daftykinswhole thing is swinging around off the wall due to the large fixings having allowed water ingress which has crumbled it all18:02
penguin42daftykins: Golly, technology! It's interesting the connections aren't really paired18:03
daftykinsindeedy18:03
daftykinsi'm hoping to see if they fancy redoing it since it's swinging about loosely - plus i'd ideally like to paint behind etc18:04
daftykinsso much destruction to the paint where the lines have had the little cable tacks put in all across the front too18:07
daftykinsmy Dad is suggesting running mine underneath the window sills instead, not sure if that'd be better or worse18:07
zmoylan-pioh, barry norman died...18:53
diddledan:-o18:53
daftykinsd'aww18:55
daftykinsmust admit i had to look him up18:55
zmoylan-pifor anyone over 40 i suspect you say his name and a piece of music and film x were x is the year the show went out springs to mind...18:57
daftykins:>18:57
diddledanI used to love Film X with him18:58
zmoylan-pipre internet it was how you found what movies to go see18:58
diddledanthey tried to reinvent it several times since but it just didn't work as well as when they had Barry doing it18:58
zmoylan-pijonathan ross was good but still not a patch on norman18:59
daftykinshaha the OnePlus 5's (a phone) screen is mounted upside down and causing scrolling quirks19:33
zmoylan-piso it's mac touchpad orientation scrolling? :-P19:43
daftykins:D19:45
brobostigonhttps://man.openbsd.org/synclient ?19:49
daftykinsheh Apple reversed the direction OS wide a few versions ago, was quite mad19:54
daftykinsi had one Mac client ask 'wat'19:55
diddledanI switch between mac and pc so often that I just randomly scroll both ways until it goes the direction I want19:56
daftykins:D19:56
brobostigonif only apple decide to make a machine with just just pure darwin, i complain at that, :)19:59
brobostigonwouldnt*19:59
diddledanthey don't release darwin source anymore iirc19:59
diddledan:-(19:59
brobostigonie. bsd, ultimatly.19:59
brobostigon:(20:00
daftykinsbrobostigon: i'd hope you would since all the parts would be soldered in and it'd be pure evil!20:00
daftykinscomplain that is20:02
brobostigondaftykins: i use openbsd, haiku now most days, and then debian on some of my machines. my partner she is windows/iphone'ipod background, now i had to teach her when the machine starts up to eun things like startx and them mod1 + enter to get your program menu up, but after four years she has started to understand it, an understands now why having a more functional rather than an interface which or more bling than functional is more beneficial.20:06
daftykins:>20:07
daftykinsi'm just digging at Apple's hardware decisions there20:07
daftykinsthou shalt have a disposable machine20:07
daftykins^ i should have put quotes around that one20:07
brobostigonyep.20:07
brobostigoni tried to explain to her once, how unix pipes work, i compared it to how you can redirect data from one program into another to try and explain it. i think she knew the geek and nerd i was, :D20:10
daftykins:D20:10
daftykinsi found that was one of those *nix concepts that's easier to see a practical use of, then get explained20:10
daftykinsthat free intro to Linux course i did for fun spoke of IO redirection but without context it was pretty bad20:11
penguin42it's harder when you don't need to build formatting/grepping/awking pipes much20:11
brobostigonexample, less /var/log/apache2/access.log | grep iphone20:12
* penguin42 swaps brobostigon's grep and less20:12
daftykinsyeah you could just grep the file direct there :D20:12
brobostigonless /var/log/apache2/access.log | grep iphone | less20:12
daftykin1oh dear i've actually lost a few megabits since faffing with the phone cables20:16
diddledan:-o20:17
diddledanthat was careless20:17
daftykin1i know, if only i'd swept them up as well as the paint chippings20:17
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daftykinsstands to reason flexing the cable around would harm my rates :)20:17
diddledanrates have gone up again? damned taxes!20:18
daftykinskinda tempted to just run my own replacement cable tbh whilst i have the scaffold20:18
daftykinsooh yes, the island needs a new golden donkey statue20:18
penguin42daftykins: It hardly looks 'balanced'20:18
daftykinsuh oh, clone problems20:19
daftykins*ahem*20:20
daftykinsbalanced you say?20:20
daftykinsyep definitely lost sync a few mins ago, ho-hum20:22
daftykinsi wonder if electrical wholesalers sell outdoor spec by the metre20:22
penguin42daftykins: it's supposed to be tricky because when they get upset they'll drop back a bit and wont come back up for a while20:23
daftykinsah indeedy20:24
daftykinsto be honest i'm a bit beyond the line length to even have the 60Mb down service i'm on, as when i was on the 40Mb i saw a sync speed of only 5220:24
daftykinsbit annoying to see they put interleaving on too, probably from the time i was getting packet loss20:24
daftykinsi've an odd one at my parents place, they're on the basic 20Mb down and 1Mb up ADSL2+ service, the download is absolutely fine but the upload isn't so stable and there's crackling on the voice line if you just listen to the dial tone... i even replaced the socket for a filter built-in type20:25
daftykinstheir answer is to apply a profile capping the upload to 768Kbps but i'm not fond of that approach20:26

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