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glitsj16sadtaco: https://www.howtogeek.com/116742/how-to-create-a-separate-home-partition-after-installing-ubuntu/ might be an alternative, a bit more work but worthwhile00:04
psychoticwarriorhey00:38
unholymachineyes?00:39
unholymachinehi00:39
psychoticwarriorwhatsu p00:40
psychoticwarriorup00:40
sadtacoyeah. thanks00:55
tharkunSo I used an 8GB usb dongle to install ubuntu. How can I get the usb back to its original clean state with 8GB storage?00:55
lunagirlclean state?00:57
tharkunempty00:57
lunagirldestroy the partition, create a new one and format it?00:58
tharkunlunagirl: destroy... lets start with that . How?00:59
lunagirlfdisk /dev/sdb if thats the device, p to display the partitions, d to delete, n if i remember correctly and allocate all the space, wq and then mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb101:00
lunagirlor plug it into a windows machine and use the disk manager to do pretty much the same stuff but with extfs or ntfs01:01
tharkunlunagirl: Thanks a lot. But the filesystem will have to remain Fat32 I use it accross several OS and it seems to be the only one that is recognized by mac and windows at the same time.01:02
lunagirltharkun: i think extfs can do the same for you01:02
tharkunlunagirl: Thanks I will google it now. :)01:03
lunagirlcheck what you options are on filesystem are in win diskmanager01:03
lunagirltharkun: :)01:03
tharkunThat would be the way to go if I had a windows system but then none availabel at the moment.01:04
Ben64tharkun: just use gparted01:05
tharkunBen64: Headless server.01:05
Ben64then parted01:05
tharkunBen64: noted. Thanks.01:05
tharkunHow can I get a root user?01:05
Ben64sudo parted will work01:06
tharkunBen64: yes it will. The question still stands.01:06
Ben64well can you give context01:06
lunagirlBen64: why use parted and not fdisk etc01:06
Ben64parted is smarter01:07
lunagirlthat depends on the user01:07
tharkunlunagirl: like everything else in linux is a matter of personal choice.01:07
tharkunno underlying reason. Why use aptitude instead of apt-get or viceversa. Arguments are endless01:07
lunagirltharkun: its about what works for you, not others01:08
Ben64aptitude had a lot of issues for a bit01:08
tharkunlunagirl: pick your own poison is the motto around here :)01:09
lunagirlbut as of how to get root, sudo su - and then passwd, whola, you dont have to use this sudo crap anymore01:09
tharkunI have used fdisk before and parted also. But it is not everyday work so I tend to forget.01:09
lunagirltharkun: yeah and mine is beer right now :)01:09
Ben64sudo is a good idea01:09
tharkunlunagirl: That is a good idea :D01:09
lunagirlBen64: yes for people who dont understand root01:09
Ben64no01:09
Ben64for people who care about security01:10
lunagirlplease explain01:10
tharkunBen64: sudo has its own isues. And those are huge ones. OT for the level of expertise around here.01:10
Ben64tharkun: what issues01:10
tharkunBen64: sorry I have to go now I'm late for an appointment but will discuss it gladly on Monday.01:10
Ben64lol01:10
tharkunYou can google them and get the hang of them the underlying isue the more root you have the more knowledge you also need to hardened your server.01:11
lunagirlsudo is an illusion of security through obscurity01:11
Ben64lunagirl: that is not correct01:11
tharkunBeen around long enough to see sudo fail epic01:11
tharkunGTG01:12
lunagirlwell, if you need to fear root and accept ubuntu state of rights mechanism youre done for in hardening01:12
Ben64that makes no sense01:13
lunagirlthat makes all sense, just ask aix, hpux, gentoo, openbsd, freebsd and others01:13
Ben64your logic is not sound01:13
lunagirli never said it was sound, i just dont buy into this sudo saves us all crap, coming from hardened unix systems it doesnt make sense01:14
Ben64well then this is pointless to continue, please don't suggest bypassing sudo in this channel though01:14
lunagirlwhy not?01:14
Ben64because sudo is the way ubuntu does things, this is the ubuntu support channel01:15
lunagirlwhat is wrong advocating responsible root01:15
lunagirlsounding like a true beliver hiding the scriptures from the masses01:16
lunagirland btw, i have three machines in front of me running ubuntu on two different architectures so dont lecture me on religion01:17
Ben64i'm not?01:17
lunagirlyes you are, sudo is the way of ubuntu bla bla bla <--- nothing to do with linux which is what ubuntu is01:18
Ben64feel free to join #ubuntu-ops if you'd like to discuss policies with the channel ops01:19
lunagirlno, i like to discuss real usage of a good OS01:19
Ben64do that crap in ##linux01:19
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akivaHello all. I am trying to upgrade my system wide qt version to 5.8 or higher. possible?01:21
tomreynakiva: why would you want / need to do so?01:29
tomreynhere are some unsupported PPAs for updated QT versions in /opt https://launchpad.net/~beineri01:30
akivatomreyn: i need a class available for oauth that was introduced in 5.8 to run my software01:41
doc|workhey. I'm trying to set up a nic alias for my wifi card (so I have a static ip at all times - no matter where my laptop is used). The last /etc/network/interfaces I tried contained http://paste.ubuntu.com/24993215/ but it never comes up with ifup -a or network-manager restart. Anyone got any ideas where I'm going wrong?01:54
_28Kbwhy i can't use .ico for my "desktop configuration file (application/x-desktop)"?01:59
_28Kbsame .ico was there, but now it does not even prompt me when i browse to it trying to change icon02:00
Ben64why not rename it to .desktop ?02:01
Ben64oh wait i misunderstood your question02:02
_28Kbit's a dosbox louncher for a game02:02
Ben64convert it to a png?02:02
_28Kbit worked few days earlier..02:02
Ben64weird02:03
_28Kbi think so also02:03
_28Kbnow my icon is blank page and i don't like it :)02:03
_28Kbi moved folder recently to another location.. maybe that messes up stuff02:04
thalladawhat do I do if postgresql is "active (exited)" and sudo less /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.5-main.log is completely empty?02:08
_28Kbtricked it... edited manually .desktop file02:10
santost12I ran "apt build-dep nginx" because I was going to compile it. I've decided to use the pkg that is already in the repos instead. How do I undo "apt build-dep nginx"?02:11
doc|workok, so it turns out if I restart networking it works, but if I restart network-manager it loses the ip address again, which presumably means it will be lost when I come out of suspend too. Anyone?02:15
SuperPulseaudiosup! need help with this https://askubuntu.com/questions/93016803:03
SuperPulseaudioanybody here?03:08
SuperPulseaudioanyone?03:25
SuperPulseaudio16.04 audio problem03:26
SuperPulseaudiohttps://askubuntu.com/questions/930168/ anyone?03:27
Nilesh_Hi03:46
Nilesh_msg NickServ identify yukossyukoss03:47
Ben64time to change your password Nilesh_03:47
Nilesh_Yeah03:47
Nilesh_:)03:47
SuperPulseaudiohehe XD03:48
Nilesh_I have problem joining #ubuntu ...it redirects to #ubuntu-unregged ..even my IRC name  is registered03:51
Ben64you're in #ubuntu03:51
Nilesh_But why #ubuntu-unregged is joined automatically when I join #ubuntu03:52
Nilesh_That confuses me03:52
Ben64idk?03:52
Nilesh_What's that?03:53
Ben64i don't know03:53
Nilesh_Fine03:55
blkadderNilesh_, Timing I imagine. It happens to me when I first login as well. I just haven't bothered tracking it down.03:56
Nilesh_Ah I see03:56
capellaheh, my chatzilla dumps me into #android-unregistered instead of #android-dev and i've not figured it out yet either ;)04:01
kode54lots of clients aren't made for services04:04
kode54and will automatically join you to all channels before authenticating completely with services04:04
capellammmm, looks like it barfs on my |/set irc_join_delay 8| cmd ... "[WARNING] Extra parameters “8” ignored." ...04:07
capellabah, what'd I do wrong .... :/04:07
* capella reading...04:08
nostalgiccloudhey Nach0z04:08
Nach0zsuh04:08
blkadderSo fixed it for Hexchat.... http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq.html04:17
blkadderJust upped the delay before joining so ident has time to occur.04:18
elkyblkadder: you should use sasl https://freenode.net/kb/answer/hexchat04:22
blkadderWell, a) I didn't really care that much to bother looking at this until someone else mentioned it, and b) I just made a change that works fine so I don't see the need to do anything else, but thanks for the suggestion.04:24
XadowHi guys! I'm having what seems to be an small, yet fatal problem with xorg, it seems not to be able to find screens on my virtual system, the version is xorg-server 2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2.704:32
capellaguess Ill try sasl then04:37
chamunkshttps://hastebin.com/erojawajib.scala anyone know whats wrong with the default apt package for gitlab in the ubuntu repo's?04:39
kode54ubuntu has a default package?04:42
kode54I just use the omnibus mess04:42
chamunkskode54 https://about.gitlab.com/installation/#ubuntu I was going to try this but it doesn't include all of the https fanciness etc.04:43
kode54oh04:43
kode54I use the gitlab.yml config variable for declaring a custom import to the nginx config04:44
kode54which declares it to import files from /etc/nginx/conf.d/04:44
kode54and there, I declare the same letsencrypt magic as I use on my other servers04:44
chamunksThis is why I like docker for this kinda stuff.04:52
capellaoh ah... /set and /Set ain't the same !? oO04:52
chamunksAnyways, anyone have a solution rather than telling me that this way isn't good?04:54
chamunksI need a way to get this thing working.04:54
JakethepythonSub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:55
Jakethepythoni tried to install bind904:55
Ben64put the whole command and output on paste.ubuntu.com04:56
Jakethepythonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24994235/04:58
Ben64whats the output of uname -a05:00
Jakethepythonuname -a05:00
JakethepythonLinux Gandalf 4.4.0-59-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 6 17:47:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux05:00
Ben64weird, it thinks you have some old kernel installed05:01
Jakethepythonweird is not what i wanted to hear haha05:02
Ben6416.04 never ran on a 3.x kernel05:02
Ben64theres no reason that should be there05:02
blkadderJakethepython, Bind was already installed.05:02
JakethepythonI know it was more of a why all the errors05:03
blkadderOld kernel cruft.05:03
blkadderI imagine...05:03
blkadderSome screwy stuff...05:03
Ben64Jakethepython: sudo dpkg --force-all -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-77-generic linux-image-3.16.0-77-generic05:03
Jakethepythonpaste bin it05:05
Jakethepython?05:05
Ben64unless it errors no, should just fix it05:05
chamunkskode54 did you have a guide that you followed?05:06
chamunksIt seems that there is a significantly lacking amount of intuitiveness to the documentation.05:07
Jakethepythonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24994267/05:07
blkadderYeah...05:08
blkadderDidn't think that was going to work.05:08
chamunksIt seems that there is a significantly lacking amount of intuitiveness to the documentation.05:08
blkadderBecause it was already erroring previously05:08
chamunkshttps://hastebin.com/abuyuxupen.rb not sure what this means.05:08
Ben64that usually works though05:09
blkadderRight, but it was already trying to remove stuff and errored out on it.05:09
blkadderBased on the previous output he provided.05:10
Ben64right, but what i suggested usually works with errors05:10
* blkadder shrugs05:10
blkadderI haven't seen these particular errors before (especially the YOUR SYSTEM IS NOW UNBOOTABLE) :-)05:11
Jakethepythonyeah thats really the one that scares me05:12
blkadderJakethepython, dpkg -l | grep linux-image05:12
Jakethepythonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24994277/05:13
blkadderAnd uname -r05:14
Jakethepythonjacob@Gandalf:~$ uname -r05:15
Jakethepython4.4.0-59-generic05:15
blkadderWell that's good.05:15
Jakethepythonat least somethign is good i guess05:17
Jakethepython  is it better to just clean insatll or can we fix the paths that are screwed05:23
blkadderCan probably fix, but I don't want to give you bad info so I am looking...05:23
Jakethepythonpackages* not paths05:23
blkadderSince you aren't using the old kernel I don't think all the scary warnings are relevant.05:24
Jakethepythonthats fine thank you very much in advance even if we don't find it05:24
Jakethepythonok thats also good news05:24
Jakethepythonshould i upgrade to 16.04?05:25
blkadderI'd suggest getting everything in order before upgrading...05:25
Jakethepythonagreed it was more of a general question05:28
blkadderSo I am pretty sure the "pH" flags on the kernel version that is throwing errors means it was half-installed.05:28
blkadderWhich is probably why it can't uninstall cleanly.05:29
Jakethepythonok05:30
blkadderSo for giggles let's try dpkg --purge linux-image-extra-3.16.0-77-generic05:31
blkadderI don't think it will work but let's see...05:32
Jakethepythonlooks very simliar to what was tried earlier05:32
blkadderThat's what I thought...05:32
blkadderThat's the half-installed issue...05:33
Jakethepythonok05:35
blkadder dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove linux-image-extra-3.16.0-77-generic05:35
Jakethepythonsame error05:38
blkadderOk how about apt install --reinstall linux-image-extra-3.16.0-77-generic05:38
Jakethepythonsame error05:42
blkadderYikes.05:43
Jakethepythonthats not what i wanted to hear05:43
blkadderI'm out of my element at this point so you probably want someone more clued.05:44
Jakethepythonim way out of mine right now too05:44
Jakethepythonthank you for trying though :)05:45
blkadderBut as I said you aren't using that kernel so I don't think it a real issue, just more of an annoyance.05:45
Jakethepythoni would like to upgrade but i don't want to break it05:49
Jakethepythoni don't even know if an upgrade will work05:55
doc|workI have a ip address alias set up in /etc/network/interfaces, but when I come out of suspend it's not visible. I need to run /etc/init.d/networking restart to get it to show up. Anyone got any ideas how to make it always show up?05:57
glitsj16doc|work: Have you looked for errors in your logs after resuming from suspend? What ubuntu version are you seeing this behavior on by the way?06:26
doc|workglitsj16, xubuntu 16.04, only thing in dmesg that looks relevant and perhaps out of place is: iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: set key failed06:27
glitsj16doc|work: that might be related somehow yes.. I wouldn't know how to fix that, but you could try a custom systemd service file to run /etc/init.d/networking commands on sleep/resume06:29
DeaDSouLhi, does anyone know what 'i801_smbus' driver is for?06:30
doc|workglitsj16, thanks. Was hoping to avoid that. That's slow :/06:30
glitsj16doc|work: yup, a crude hack indeed..06:31
mojtabaHelo, does anybody know how to connect ios 10.2.1 to Ubuntu 16.04?08:06
c|onemanew08:08
c|onemangive up, use iTunes in a VM08:09
mojtabac|oneman: Thanks for the thought.08:13
hosasI'm having this errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/24995125/  while trying to install pygtk using  pip install pygtk08:51
Exterminadorhosas: maybe a little look at this would help. I've never tried, so I don't know if it will help or not. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygtk08:54
hosasthanks08:54
Exterminadorperhaps: apt install python-gtk2 python-gtk2-dev08:59
hosasExterminador: I already install all those packages....but still having same error when starting hackertray09:22
Exterminadorhosas: I can't help you much. as I'm here for get help also. :/09:23
hosasExterminador: :) thanks09:24
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simsohi, guys can you plz help enable radeon driver , dual gpu hp laptop, amd intel09:44
simso           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile09:46
simsoanyone ?09:53
discoveredIs there any kubuntu channel?09:54
BluesKajHowdy folks09:58
thyriaenis it possible to mount two SSDs in the same mountpoint ?10:04
thyriaenand how about nested once like i mout one to /home/data and one to /home/data/dat210:05
thyriaenand what will happen if i save files to /home/data and there are two SSDs mounted to10:05
thyriaendoes that even make sense at all10:05
fallentreethyriaen: mount two ssds in the same mountpoint? no, but you can achieve the goal of having multiple drives cooperate in single storage scenario via mdadm/raid10:12
fallentreethere's also LVM where you can combine multiple physical drives into single, contiguous logical volume / storage space10:12
fallentreethyriaen: so for example, if you want /home/data to be on both disks, each having the same copy of data, that's basically raid-1 (mirror)10:13
thyriaenfallentree, can i use raid 0 with two ssds wich are not of the same size ?10:19
simsoplz guys someone help enabling radeon driver10:20
fallentreethyriaen: I think so, but it will use the smaller disks's size as reference10:20
fallentreethyriaen: btw, don't use raid-0 unless you're okay with losing data on it10:20
thyriaenfallentree, i think i dont want to use a raid anyways - i still want to have the data saperated on it - i guess i just have to use two mountpoints10:22
arun_tmy system is not performing well with ubuntu so i created the backup in deja-dup directory, after creating the backup i need to copy that backup in external drive or what to do with backup?10:25
arun_tplease help10:26
necrophcodrHi everyone. If I've backed up an SD card with a few filesystems on it, using dd, is it then possible for me to restore ONLY the _written_ data, and not also all the zero's?10:38
necrophcodrI'd like to be able to not restore, say, 16GB backup, where only 2GB are used.10:38
necrophcodrThen it'd work better if I only restored the 2GB parts.10:39
sarysimso: Which ubuntu/kernel version! And are you asking how to enable the AMD Catalyst (fglrx), the amdgpu or radeon driver ?10:42
thyriaeni got a question about the amd driver too10:44
thyriaenthe raedeon driver is for the old crads i read the info correctly10:44
thyriaenwhat is the difference between amdgpu and amdgpu pro ?10:45
thyriaenand is there a repository for the amdgpu-pro available so i get automatic updates pushed via apt ?10:45
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frostschutznecrophcodr, unused space is not necessarily zero. you can loop-mount and only copy files. if it's actually zero dd has conv=sparse but the target drive has to be zero for that (zero does not necessarily mean free space, so if you make dd skip zero, it should be zero at the target, or it may be corrupt).10:54
simsoguys, can someplz help enable radeon , i dont have no amd options in driver manager10:55
frostschutznecrophcodr, or maybe you want something like partimage but it depends on the filesystem10:56
oerheksfilezilla could do that, restoring data/partial data only10:57
necrophcodrfrostschutz: okay, so the situation i'm specifically asking for is I have a RPi2 sd card with a system on it, running ext4 filesystem and all the sd card is partitioned.10:58
necrophcodrand i'd like to back that up effectively, but even more importantly i want to be able to restore in less than an hour, and that's not happening if i have to restore all of the sd card sadly10:58
frostschutznecrophcodr, so... copy files instead of dd? copying files (or even then only the files that changed using rsync) will always be faster than anything else. dd is only faster if you prepare another SD card beforehand and then switch cards entirely.11:00
necrophcodri also don't mind getting my hands dirty and looking partitions and mangling data into submission. that's fine for me in this case, so long as the data remains non-corrupt and restorable.11:00
necrophcodrfrostschutz: i'll look into making the sd card reproducable with copying then, if that's the faster method11:00
frostschutzit is, the only thing that needs special treatment is the bootloader11:01
necrophcodrI'll also look into partimage11:01
frostschutzbut you should ask in a raspi channel11:01
necrophcodrfrostschutz: on rpi2, isn't the bootloader just in the /boot partition only? i think that may be the case, so i should be alright there. that can be backed up in full anyway.11:01
necrophcodrfrostschutz: thanks for your help! :D11:02
BluesKajnecrophcodr, if it's like RPI3 the bootloader has it's own partition on the sdcard11:08
simsoguys so amd radeon is no longer supported in ubuntu 16 ?11:17
oerheksopen amdradeon and open amdgpu/amdgpu-pro are..11:18
oerheks!amd11:18
ubottuOpen driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD11:18
simsotyped man radeon , i dont see my model in the supported list11:20
necrophcodrsimso: which model is it?11:23
BluesKajsimso, type amdgpu11:23
simsoradeon hd 745011:24
simsoVGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series] [1002:6760] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])11:24
simsoinfo in the wiki is for ubuntu 12 , im on 1611:26
necrophcodrsimso: your card is caicos, it appears to be compatible with 6400M (or a model base on that card)11:26
necrophcodrthe 6400 appears in the man radeon, along with other caicos stuff, so I'm guessing your system is using the `radeon` driver for the GPU.11:27
necrophcodrsimso: if you run `sudo lsmod | grep radeon` you'll know for sure.11:27
simsoits not 6400 its 745011:27
simsoi have dual gpu11:28
simsonxi -Gx11:28
simsoGraphics:  Card-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.011:28
simso           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series] bus-ID: 01:00.011:28
simso           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@59.99hz11:28
simso           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 12.0.6 Direct Rendering: Yes11:28
necrophcodrYes, which is probably based off of the 6450, and running the same architecture, which means it's supported by the same driver. That's as much as I can assertain from the wikipedia sites.11:28
BluesKajhybrid graphics , with amd ..good luck11:29
BugzBunny^11:29
simsoany suggestions ?11:30
oerheksi run radeon 5450 with 2 screens fine11:31
oerheks2 movies, no problems11:31
simsoguide me plz to install and enable it instead of the intel one11:32
necrophcodrsimso: i think you might need to blacklist the intel driver, so the radeon driver is loaded instead, but i'm not sure.11:33
ahmed751995how can i change file from -rw------- to  -rw-r--r--11:39
rud0lffrom command line?11:40
ahmed751995yes11:40
rud0lfchmod 644 filename11:40
kristhianquestion11:41
ahmed751995and the return file back11:42
kristhianis there a guide on installing asterisk voip server in ubuntu?11:42
rud0lfchange back?11:42
rud0lfchmod 600 filename11:42
kristhianand how do i connect it to a local phone?11:42
BluesKaj!crosspost | ahmed75199511:43
ubottuahmed751995: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.11:43
ahmed751995rud0lf: thanks11:43
rud0lfglad to help11:43
ahmed751995ubottu: iam sorry11:44
tomreynsimso: i won't guide you but this is the general approach i would take: first of all check whether the radeon driverwas loaded to support this device (lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | egrep 'VGA|Kernel driver in use'), then blacklist the intel driver (create /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nameoftheintelkernelmodule.conf and type 'blacklist' followed by the name of the intel kernel module you are currently using into it), then reboot.11:44
adamitschhow to find all files which contain some string? and you also know how the name of file starts* Thanks for help11:46
tomreynadamitsch: find /path/to/base/directory -type f -iname 'case_insensitive_filenamepattern*' -exec grep -il 'case_insensitive_searchterm' '{}' \;11:52
oerheksgrep -R "text" .11:53
tomreynthat wont respect the file name pattern limitation, though11:54
oerhekserr no, indeed11:54
azakiwhen ubuntu ships gnome, i wonder if they're going to ship it with wayland as default or if they will stick to xorg for now.11:56
oerheks!u+111:56
adamitschtomreyn thanks ! :D11:57
beefjoeWhy does Facebook take forever to load ? on FF and Chromium12:07
thewillohey guys, how do I install a newer libc without replacing everything? I understand linux supports having multiple libc builds/versions but I don't know how to install one without messing up everything12:14
Wulfthewillo: okay... why?12:15
Wulfthewillo: can you use a VM or chroot or similar?12:16
thewilloWulf, Why, because I'm recompiling everything to be ryzen comaptiable12:16
thewilloand no, VM will not work12:16
thewilloor chroot12:17
thewilloI asked in #linux because I realized it's not an ubuntu question12:17
Wulfthewillo: and why wouldn't it work? Get a compiler with ryzen as target, compile call your stuff and put it into a chroot if you want to run it12:18
MarkB2I have two Intel Joule boards and am trying to copy the system from one to another.  The system on the first is on an internal MMIC memory, the second I want onto an SDHC (which, on the Joule, is a bootable object).12:42
MarkB2A dd(1) of the internal MMIC to SDHC failed because the internal MMIC is larger than the SDHC.  I went to Plan B...12:43
BluesKajit will12:44
MarkB2.. and created partitions on the SDHC.  From there, file systems were set up (one parttion gets mkfs.vfat, the other gets mkfs.ext4) and I used tar(1) to copy everything from each partition on the MMIC to the corresponding partition on the SDHC.12:44
MarkB2Then I used blkid and some editing of fstab on the SDHC to get that straightened out.12:45
MarkB2Then used some mount and chroot chicanery to get grub2 installed on the SDHC.12:46
MarkB2All of this worked on the original system.  The SDHC would boot up and all was good.12:46
MarkB2Then the SDHC was plugged into the SECOND Joule board... and grub complained that a device was missing.12:46
MarkB2The error message blipped by too fast for me to read.. but I think it was a UUID.12:47
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MarkB2I know grub2 starts up before the system has a chance to look at /etc/fstab .  But now I can't figure out why grub2 boots the system on the original host but fails on a different computer with identical hardware.12:49
MarkB2The "chicanery" mentioned above was that of binding SDHC partitions to the running system then chroot'ing to the SDHC system and installing grub2.12:50
MarkB2Suggestions would be appreciated.  Once grub2 is installed on the new SDHC device, what is the step to get the thing bootable on another, identical, piece of hardware?12:54
cariveriHi. does anyone here know how to enable username@url for a website on apache?13:27
ikoniacariveri: you don't just enable that13:33
ikoniacariveri: you need an auth system, I assume you're probably talking about the htaccess list ?13:33
antilogicHello is there another way to stop gdm/lightdm services? i need it to install nvidia drivers.  'service lightdm/gdm3 stop' do not appear to do anything13:37
antilogicim using ubuntu-gnome btw13:38
ikoniaantilogic: use the systemd command systemctl13:39
BluesKajantilogic, which nvidia gpu?13:39
antilogic760M13:39
ikoniahowever if you install the nvidia drivers via the package manager it does it all for you13:39
ikoniaare you using the ubuntu package manager to install the nvidia packages ?13:39
antilogicyah i need a specific version that came out recently13:39
BluesKajantilogic, optimus? hybrid graphics I bet13:40
antilogici did it before with systemctl command somehoe just forgot it13:40
antilogicBluesKaj: yah13:40
antilogicsomehow*13:40
ikoniawhy can you not use the version ubuntu packages ?13:40
antilogica bug fix came out in beta driver and i want to test it13:40
ikoniawhich bug fix ?13:41
antilogic"Fixed a bug that could sometimes cause OpenGL applications to lock up until the X server receives input."13:41
ikoniawhat's the bug id ?13:42
antilogici dont know, it doenst matter i just want to install the driver :D13:42
ikoniaget on with it then13:43
cariveriikonia: htaccess and htpasswd is all in place and working. Im talking about the connection of the username@url to be passed along.13:48
ikoniacariveri: what do you mean ?13:50
cariveriikonia: 1. enter username@mywebsite, 2. be prompted (basic auth already working), 3.  see that "username" is already entered in there (not working)13:52
ikoniacariveri: username@mywebsite - what is prompting for that ?13:54
cariveriikonia: try this : https://ikonia@dialogium.de/arguedit/13:55
leftyfbcariveri: your question really has nothing to do with ubuntu. You need to look for help about web development.13:56
LenniHeyo Guys! I'm a Windows Power User but I need to use Ubuntu for work on a daily bases. Any guides or stuff like that, that you could recommend to get into ubuntu as fast as possible?13:56
cariverileftyfb: he seemed to have a clue. and I m asking here as a later resort, I already did ask somewhere else. little response on httpd e.g.13:57
leftyfbLenni: https://goo.gl/9t3Zvv13:58
EriC^^!manual | Lenni13:59
ubottuLenni: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/13:59
EriC^^!tldp | Lenni13:59
ubottuLenni: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/95-799/rute.pdf13:59
ikoniacariveri: what is actually prompting the user for the user/password14:00
ikoniacariveri: as in what technology/part of the stack14:00
Lenniay, thanks14:00
leftyfbikonia: in that example, it's htaccess. The fact that there was a username in the URL is irrelevant and gets removed immediately.14:00
leftyfbcariveri: to be honest, there's no point in putting the username in the URL if you're just going to present a web asking for credentials. If you're going to put both the username and password in the URL, DON'T.14:02
ikonialeftyfb: I was wondering if it was a web app rather than htaccess14:02
ikonialeftyfb: some sort of auth service that is "infront" of the web application, eg: openam or something like that14:02
leftyfbikonia: it's not. It's htaccess14:02
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lesshasteis there any way to grep a pdf document for the math "2^n" ?15:33
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Speed_i am trying to burn a windows iso to a DVD using my ubunto Live USB but when i open the immage writer the disc drive is greyed out so it woont let me use it15:54
compdocsure its not a CD drive instead?15:54
Speed_it says DVD on it15:55
Speed_DVD-R-DL15:55
compdocdont they make different dvd media? what brand and name are the DVDs youre using?15:55
Speed_windata15:56
compdoccompanies make DVD+R, and DVD-R, and i think there one thats permanent, like writing on stone15:57
tomreynhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc_drive#Compatibility15:59
tomreynyou'll need to examine which device (use lspci and lsusb commands) and dvd recordables (check the label) you have there exactly to detemrine whether they're compatible.16:01
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BlackVenomHey folks16:22
BlackVenomWhen I log into the terminal via ssh sometimes i am told i need to restart the system because of an update16:22
BlackVenomis it possible to find out if the system needs to be rebooted after an update without logging out and then back in again?16:23
pavlosBlackVenom: you can look at /var/run/reboot-required. If it exists, a reboot is required.16:27
BlackVenomis that just a file thats created?16:28
leftyfbBlackVenom: that is the file that is cat'd to your MOTD upon logging in via ssh if it exists, yes16:28
tomreynBlackVenom: yes, just check whether the file exists: [[ -f /var/run/reboot-required ]] && echo 'Please reboot me soon.'16:29
BlackVenomthanks folks16:31
BlackVenomwhat does the [[ command do tomreyn?16:31
tomreynit invokes the bash built-in complement to the 'test' command16:31
BlackVenomthanks tomreyn16:32
tomreyni meant to write equivalent, not completment, sorry ;)16:33
JustTheDoctorwhere can i find help with configuring my vncserver ?16:45
tomreynJustTheDoctor: in its man page16:46
tomreynalso in the (possibly provided) ...-docs package16:47
JustTheDoctorI'm just trying to figure out why i did what it said and it doesnt load a gui just  blank screen with a x icon for a mouse pointer.16:50
tomreyni'll be afk now, but if you'd like some help with this youp should discuss which software you are trying to get to work specifically (package name?), the ubuntu version you are tryin gto make it work on, your use case / overall goal, and your current configuration.16:52
ducasseJustTheDoctor: which desktop are you trying to use it with? if it's a 3d-accelerated one that's what happens.17:15
JustTheDoctori followed this https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/remote-desktop/install-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04 on 17.0417:16
ducasseJustTheDoctor: afaik you need to disable 3d accel, but not familiar with unity.17:21
beefjoeWhy does Facebook take forever to load ? on FF and Chromium17:31
beefjoeAnd even after fully loading it takes a while to load every new page/chat window etc..17:32
beefjoeThat's the chat window for example, just hangs like that https://imgur.com/rJXpano17:42
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JustTheDoctornow when i try to login to my vnc i see this error https://prnt.sc/fqg0v2 but when i try to go create it its already there and owned by user.17:49
JustTheDoctorGOT IT18:02
SchrodingersScatJustTheDoctor: well done18:05
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streetwitchWhen I'm logged into my shell I get messages when people try to access files, even simple ones like robos.txt .  It is really annoying when I'm in nano.  Anyone have ideas to help?18:22
tomreynstreetwitch: what do those messages say?18:23
streetwitchJust that they can't find certain files18:23
tomreynstreetwitch: those would be web server logs written to console. that's unusual, you must have modified your system logging configuration. on a default installation, this would not happen. which ubuntu version is it? have youi made any major modifications?18:25
tomreynare we talknig about a web server ehre?18:25
streetwitchtomreyn, I'm using linode18:25
streetwitchYes, web server messages18:25
streetwitchThey get in the way when I'm editing files in the shell18:26
tomreynso unless you modified the syslog configuration, it suggests they did it, and in that case i'd turn to them for support since this is not a standard ubuntu installation.18:27
streetwitchtomreyn that's $$$18:28
streetwitchexpensive18:28
tomreyni can't seem to find anything on the web swhich suggests that this is a generic issue with this hosting provider. so i'll assume it's modification syou made?18:29
* faugusztin got a /64 IPv6 block from provider... but lost public IPv4 :(18:29
faugusztin(wrong channel, whoops)18:30
genioIs there a reason why apt autoremove just hangs like this? https://gist.github.com/genio/fd1dea91fff2c4efb22d74985796bc3618:34
oerheksgenio, just be patient..18:34
genioover an hour stuck at 68%18:35
oerheksan hour is extreme, yes18:35
tomreynmight be a storage i/o issue or full file system. or it's ubuntu bash for windows hwere it's an output issue which can be worked around by pressing enter.18:36
genioFS isn't full. This is 17.04 (not bash for windows)18:36
tomreynanything in 'dmesg -T | tail' ?18:37
geniojust a poorly behaving Perl XS process I'm working on in another shell.18:38
geniooh well. I'll leave it alone while doing some yard work and see if it finishes up while I'm out18:39
tomreyni'd do a long SMART self test on the backing devices of / and /boot next18:39
tomreynalso /var and /usr18:39
arup_rIn my project npm start basically starts webpack-dev-server. I am trying to capture the pid of this process, so I did `nohup npm start > server.out & echo $! > run.pid` but run.pid is 1429 and webpack-dev-server pid is different. How can I make it correct? https://pastebin.com/iWa3ctCB19:10
curlyears\heigh hough19:10
arup_rI would like to capture the pid of webpac-dev-server process, so that I can kill it later19:10
curlyearshow do I find out if my computer has bluetooth capability?19:12
curlyearsand for that matter, is bluetooth supported under LYS16.04.2?19:12
curlyearsLTS19:13
NicmavrHi, I was recently getting a lot of errors when I ran "sudo apt-get update" (must have been something to do with the recent ubuntu update). So I decided to purge all PPAs and keep just the default ones.19:15
NicmavrDoes removing a bunch of PPAs effect my system's ability to update software at all?19:15
NicmavrRight now it says everything is up to date but I wanted to check if PPAs are necessary for program updates? I'm new to this stuff19:15
arup_rIn my project npm start basically starts webpack-dev-server. I am trying to capture the pid of this process, so I did `nohup npm start > server.out & echo $! > run.pid` but run.pid is 1429 and webpack-dev-server pid is different. How can I make it correct? https://pastebin.com/iWa3ctCB . I would like to capture the pid of webpac-dev-server process, so that I can kill it later19:16
arup_rsorry quick enter ^ ignore19:17
ryzokuken  /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib32/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link19:18
EriC^^Nicmavr: it's necessary for updating packages that came from a ppa19:18
ryzokukenI get this error19:18
ryzokuken^^19:18
ryzokukenany idea what's causing this?19:18
ryzokukenand how to fix it?19:19
EriC^^arup_r: you mean echo $? ?19:19
arup_rlet me try19:19
curlyearshow do I find out if my computer has bluetooth capability?19:23
ioriacurlyears, well, with an adapter every pc has19:23
ioriacurlyears, try lspci or lsusb19:24
Nicmavrbump :)19:25
arup_rEriC^^: $? is giving 019:25
ioria$? is the return status19:26
EriC^^ah right19:26
acresearchjust looking at the latest macbook pro 13"   it seems it has less CPU power (2.3 GHz i5 intel), mine is 2011 and has (2.5 GHz i7 intel)    WHAT? Did they downgrade them?    this is important for linux because it is the future cheep computers that i will buy haha19:26
curlyearsabd wht am I looking for in lspci or lsasausb?19:27
ioriacurlyears, bluetooth device ?19:28
curlyearsnothing labelled as an "Apple" product is ever inexpensive (e.g., "cheap")19:28
ioriacurlyears, +119:28
curlyearsloria:  ah, OK, then, no such animal,  What do I have to get to provide bluetooth capability?19:29
curlyearsioria, I mean19:29
ioriacurlyears, a usb adapter19:29
ioriacurlyears, it's a little tooth :)19:30
curlyearsioria:   hmmm . . .19:30
ioriacurlyears, https://www.newegg.com/Bluetooth-Adapters/SubCategory/ID-29519:31
curlyearsOK, have any suggestions on where I could locate such an adaptor for sale (preferably inexpensively)?19:31
curlyearsah, you beat me to it, thanks, ioria19:31
ioriacurlyears, no problem, it's very cheap19:31
ioriai'am wondering, if someone in here having problem with the new 4.4.0-83-generic kern and nouveau ...19:34
curlyearsioria:  natirally, they have stopck of the $15 one, and are out of stock on the $5 one19:34
curlyearsnaturally, that is19:34
oerhekstest them first before buying :-D19:35
curlyearsoerheks:  and how do you propose I accomplish that feat?19:35
ioriacurlyears, try amazon19:35
oerhekscurlyears, dunno, just a warning, 0,5% of the BT adapters won't work19:36
curlyearsioria:  yeah, that might be a good idea19:36
curlyearsOK...here's one fore $6.99 that claims to be compatible with all the current  variatiopns of Winblowsd, dopesn't mention linuc, but does warn that it isn't compatible with Apple products19:40
curlyearsoerheks:  what is it about them that fails to work, in general?19:40
oerhekscurlyears, you just gave a good example, why would it not work with apple products? ching chang ping pang chipset?19:41
geniostill stuck19:42
oerheksi would skip that adapter19:42
curlyearsoerheks:  makes no sense to me, USB is supposed to be USB, be it on an Apple, a Winblows box or a linux bux19:42
curlyearsgenio???19:42
oerhekscurlyears, uindeed, it makes no sense, why would it not work on apple... must be a cheap chipset then, unofficial19:42
genioapt autoremove frozen on removing old kernel packages19:43
oerheksanyway, there is a HW list, certification19:43
curlyearsthe only one I found that explicit states it is compatible with linux, is almost $16    too damned much, for all the use it will ever get19:43
curlyearsgenio:   kill the process19:44
geniothen apt gets in its funky state of confusion19:44
curlyearsthe root process...all the forked processes should die when you kill the root process19:44
ioriagenio, no good19:45
genioand now to deal with apt locks and cache and other fuckery. *sigh*19:46
geniowould be nice if sudo dpkg --configure -a actually worked.  but it just hangs too19:47
curlyearsthanks, guys, time for this decrepit old man to go take an afternoon nap19:47
curlyearssomething must be very wrong with your archives database19:47
ioriagenio, is your hd ok ?19:48
genioyea. 1TB SSD. machine is only a couple of months old. I've booted into windows several times to run Dell's HW check utility19:48
ioriagenio, did you install some funky kernels ?19:49
geniosays the disk is ok19:49
genionope19:49
ioriagenio, have you dared to reboot ?19:49
geniowell, half-lie. NVidia driver kernel plugins _could_ be causing weirdness19:49
ioriagenio, oh, yeah19:50
Seveasgenio: no sign of what it's doing (log messages, strace, dmesg, ps...)19:51
Seveas?19:51
ioriagenio, how did you install nvidia ?19:51
genionothing being logged that I can tell from apt19:53
Seveasgenio: ps auxf | cat19:54
Seveasand pastebin the result. Let's see what it's actually doing19:54
genionvidia install:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers     sudo apt install nvidia-38119:54
geniogah. wont hang now. it's doing the never ending loop of this  https://gist.github.com/genio/8643d4bea3df8c77a0025f0bb1cd3cc319:57
geniorebooting19:57
geniodidn't clear it. let me reinstall all the other stuff for that kernel version20:00
genioheh.  sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-extra-4.10.0-22-generic linux-image-4.10.0-22-generic     may not have been wise20:03
sebsebsebhi20:05
geniohttps://gist.github.com/genio/8643d4bea3df8c77a0025f0bb1cd3cc3#file-px-auxf-txt20:07
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Seveasgenio: hmm, that'll hang forever. Trying to find out if that plymouth --ping is safe to kill20:37
Seveasgenio: yes, that is safe to kill. sudo kill 355620:38
CoderEuropeStill cant get the password dialogue box off chrome, any body to halp ?20:40
SeveasCoderEurope: if all else fails, a hammer to the harddrive gets rid of any problem, quite permanently :-)20:43
badet0shalp me20:47
sebsebsebbadet0s: with what?20:47
badet0sgetting souber20:49
badet0sI can´t type20:49
badet0s*sobr20:49
TheOneMenzie!ot | badet0s20:50
ubottubadet0s: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:50
badet0sIm registered ty20:54
isaaclwDoes anyone have any advice debugging full system freezes? I"m not sure if it's a kernel panic or what, but ctrl+alt+f1 etc doesn't respond, and the UI/mouse/keyboard aren't responding... I'm using ubuntu 16.04 and I can consistently duplicate it21:04
CoderEuropesebsebseb, sup ?21:06
sebsebsebCoderEurope: not much except.. pm me if you want :d21:11
genioSeveas: Killing that made it jump from 60 something percent to 80 something21:13
isaaclwok, it's specifically this rosewill rikb-11003 keyboard21:16
genioSeveas++ # it finished!!21:16
isaaclwI thought it was the keyboard/mouse combo being removed21:16
isaaclwok, well, I'll just ditch this keyboard I guess21:24
isaaclwkernel debugging sucks :/21:24
blackbird1Hi, guys what"s this code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24999767/ ? and how to concert it to text ?22:22
rud0lflooks octal22:30
blackbird1How to fix a zip file ?22:36
alexaIs anyone here an employee at Canonical?22:48
thewillocan I add compression to a folder in with ext4 and still use the folder while it's compressed as if it wasn't?23:03
thewilloLike you can do with NTFS23:03
thewilloand if no, does linux's NTFS driver support the compression?23:03
thewilloI have a very large folder, that I need occasional access to, but which I don't need full speed when copying something from it23:04
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kode54thewillo: it supports reading compressed data, but not compressing on rewrite23:32
kode54unless that's been newly added23:32
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thewillokode54, well I only need reading actually23:47
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thewilloI mean, I need to write to it occasionally, but for the odd time I do, I can mount it in windows or just not have the new files compressed23:49
thewilloalso, I can have them uncompressed until i feel like mounting it on windows, because it's an external drive23:49

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