[04:21] <ikatnik> I am trying to install a new / different version of xubunt. Have downloaded package. How do I start the install?
[04:41] <moetunes> !install
[11:53] <vimar> Hi
[12:43] <ikatnik> Hello. I am changing / converting to a different version of xubuntu. Have downloaded and extracted .iso file. Now how to install?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> ikatnik, extracted the .iso?  no.
[12:48] <cfhowlett> use the ubuntu startup creator tool to make a bootable USB.
[12:48] <cfhowlett> boot from USB and install
[12:57] <ikatnik> Thanks cfhowlett. Searched for ubuntu startup creator tool. Found. Clicked on. By default wants to open with bash. Chose "open link". Then it went nowhere. Do I need to use a Cmd? If so, what?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> whoa wait.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> what ubuntu version do you have currently?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> the terminal command is usb-creator-gtk
[13:09] <ikatnik> I know the version should be obvious. Ran inxi -Fxrc0. Got specs, but not version xubuntu. Sorry, am new to this Am running cmd now.
[13:14] <ikatnik> OK. Ran command and it installed. Now ?
[13:39] <ikatnik> After installing ubuntu startup creator tool, how do I create the bootable USB?
[13:54] <diogenes_> ikatnik, use rosa
[13:55] <ikatnik> Thanks, diogenes. With all respect, how do I use rosa?
[13:55] <diogenes_> wait
[13:57] <diogenes_> ikatnik, here: http://wiki.rosalab.ru/en/index.php/ROSA_ImageWriter#Where_can_I_take_it.3F
[13:57] <cfhowlett> ikatnik, ?  you use the startup creator tool to create the USB
[13:58] <diogenes_> I had a lot of troubles with it, so I better use Rosa Image Writer
[14:03] <ikatnik> Sorry to be near helpless. I have downloaded the xz file. Now extract?
[14:03] <diogenes_> ikatnik, yes extract and doubleclick on RosaImageWriter
[14:06] <ikatnik> Image root, I assume?
[14:07] <ikatnik> Or Image computer, or some file(s) within?
[14:08] <diogenes_> ikatnik, what you wanna write?
[14:08] <ikatnik> Um something to get to the USB startup disk?
[14:09] <diogenes_> you wanna write an image.iso?
[14:09] <diogenes_> to usb?
[14:11] <ikatnik> to USB is set via a dialog box. File name image.iso ?
[14:12] <diogenes_> ikatnik, let's start from the beginning, what is your goal you want to achieve in this very hot afternoon?
[14:16] <ikatnik> Create startup usb. Via rosa image. >I need to enter a file name (I assume) in a dialog box called "Image:" which is either or within computer or boot. Sorry, even the exact terminology of "image" I am not so clear on.
[14:18] <diogenes_> ikatnik, there are 2 ways of helping you, 1. the quickest and less painful, 2. the longest and more painful (which doesn't guarantee a success for you)
[14:20] <diogenes_> when you decide after which one you go, let me know
[14:23] <ikatnik> I am not trying to be difficult. I am not expert in the least. Nomenclature is often a problem for me. But I value your help immensely and am very grateful for it. I have a dialog box open in Rosa Image Writer that asks for "Image:". Clicking on the icon to its right, which is some sort of navigation, opens "Computer" and "root".
[14:26] <diogenes_> yes, now you have to find where your image is stored on the computer, I assume it's somewhere in your Downloads folder
[14:26] <diogenes_> so when that "navigation" opens your "Computer" and "root"
[14:27] <diogenes_> you go to computer/home/Downloads and find your imagename.iso
[14:27] <ikatnik> OK. I can do that.  To a large degree, I do not have an overall understand of what I am doing in the way of creating an image, and or creating a startup USB. Though I do understand that a startup USB is a device from which I can boot the computer when the system itself (no removable disk or USB) is having a problem. I am realize how valuable one can be. Its relation to installing a new OS I do not understand.
[14:28] <ikatnik> Sorry if this is the slow and painful way.
[14:29] <diogenes_> ikatnik, you got it right, startup disk, usb bootable drive, bootable usb they are all synonyms
[14:30] <diogenes_> that means that you download an operating system as an image for instance xubuntu-16.04-64bit.iso
[14:30] <diogenes_> to install it on your pc you have two options to either write this image (xubuntu-16.04-64bit.iso) to a DVD or to a USB
[14:30] <ikatnik> Am about to create image of .iso for new (replacement) OS. OK. It now appears I am about to install the new OS (message that all data will be lost)
[14:31] <diogenes_> this will destroy all your data on the USB drive and install the files from the imagename.iso
[14:38] <Francis_> Hi, I'm having troubles to boot xubuntu, sometimes  it freezes after the grub. Does anyone know why this is happening?
[14:38] <ikatnik> Oh no. I need to get me another USB drive to use. Please stand by.
[14:44] <ikatnik> 'New' OS.iso writing to USB.
[14:47] <ikatnik> Image on USB. Go to install?
[14:51] <ikatnik> Now my system is not reading the USB. I might need to reboot and be back.
[15:15] <ikatnik> My system is no longer reading the USB. Should I try burning a DVD of the new OS.iso?
[15:18] <diogenes_> ikatnik, don't kernel panic
[15:18] <diogenes_> everything is under control
[15:19] <diogenes_> ikatnik, somehing
[15:20] <ikatnik> Not panicking yet. But soon...
[15:21] <diogenes_> ikatnik, listen
[15:21] <diogenes_> and try to reply as fast as possible because I have little time
[15:21] <diogenes_> is your usb attached to the pc
[15:22] <ikatnik> Yes, inserted into USB slot (of all places)
[15:22] <diogenes_> we don't need you to plug it in all the places at the same time, it will do if it's inserted into at least one
[15:23] <ikatnik> You have my complete and undivided attention.         One slot at a time.
[15:23] <diogenes_> what else apart from that usb is insetred?
[15:23] <diogenes_> inserted*
[15:24]  * diogenes_ whistles
[15:24] <ikatnik> An external HD. Which I can remove. Was preparing to move all my backed up files from a second USB to the external HD.
[15:25] <diogenes_> ikatnik, listen very carefully, unplug everything, literally any device from any usb ports EXCEPT the usb which does not work
[15:26] <ikatnik> Done. (very carefully)
[15:26] <diogenes_> now
[15:26] <diogenes_> what is the size of your USB?
[15:26] <diogenes_> capacity GB
[15:26] <ikatnik> 2 gig
[15:26] <diogenes_> good now
[15:27] <diogenes_> navigate to your RosaImageWriter folder once again and open it
[15:27] <diogenes_> tell me when you done
[15:28] <diogenes_> and one hour later
[15:28] <ikatnik> Done. It does show a USB (to write to). My USB just does not show up on the desktop (or file navigation) like I would like.
[15:29] <diogenes_> ikatnik, I told you, keep calm, don't panic
[15:29] <diogenes_> everything is under control
[15:29] <diogenes_> now
[15:29] <ikatnik> I am not panicking as fast as I can.
[15:29] <diogenes_> what do you see under USB Device section in the rosa
[15:30] <diogenes_> (and another hour later)
[15:32] <ikatnik> test
[15:33] <ikatnik> Sorry      /dev/sdb/  USB Flash drive (2003 MB)
[15:33] <diogenes_> ikatnik, I'm still waiting
[15:33] <diogenes_> ok good
[15:33] <diogenes_> now
[15:33] <diogenes_> click on the "Clear" button which is right before the "Write" button
[15:34] <ikatnik> Done. Says need to format device. Am very ready.
[15:34] <diogenes_> yes
[15:34] <diogenes_> continue
[15:35] <ikatnik> Sorry if I am jumping the gun, but no new dialog or evidence of how to continue (after clear). [How to format].
[15:36] <diogenes_> ikatnik, now unplug and replug your usb and tell me if you can see it now
[15:38] <ikatnik> Sorry. Still does not show up on desktop or file system navigation. Does show up in rosa dialog box. (same as before).
[15:39] <diogenes_> tell me what happened when you clicked on Clear?
[15:40] <ikatnik> Told me all data would be lost (more or less). Asked if I wanted to go on (yes). Told me I need to format device.
[15:41] <diogenes_> ok good, now go to the menu and look for gparted
[15:41] <diogenes_> wait, a quicker way would be running: gksu gparted
[15:42] <ikatnik> Very sorry. Which menu (where)? Rosa? Not being smart here, just mystified.
[15:43] <diogenes_> open terminal and run: gksu gparted
[15:43] <diogenes_> press alt+ctrl+t
[15:43] <ikatnik> Installing
[15:45] <ikatnik> Has installed.
[15:45] <diogenes_> run the given command
[15:46] <ikatnik> OK. Now (dialog box) open with GParted info (table)
[15:47] <diogenes_> now, click on the little box on the right upper corner which says /dev/sda
[15:47] <ikatnik> Looks like hard drive partitions (in my humble opinion)
[15:48] <diogenes_> after doing that, a drop down menu will open, you click on your usb device (/dev/sdb)
[15:48] <ikatnik> Shows big and little (HD and USB)
[15:48] <diogenes_> click on usb
[15:48] <diogenes_> make SURE it's your 2GB usb
[15:50] <ikatnik> Unallocated Partition (with triangular warning ! icon) shows USB 1.96 G (which is size of USB).
[15:50] <diogenes_> you have to right click on that "unallocated bla bla bla" and click on nw
[15:50] <diogenes_> new or create (I forgot)
[15:51] <diogenes_> it's "new"
[15:51] <ikatnik> "No Partition table found on device /dev/sdb"
[15:52] <diogenes_> wait if it's triangular sign, then you have to right click on that: choose unmount (or if unavailable choose delete partition)
[15:53] <ikatnik> Same message.
[15:53] <diogenes_> ok tell me everything you see when you right click on it
[15:54] <ikatnik> On menu, only "new" and "information" are lit up. All else (like delete) is grayed out.
[15:54] <diogenes_> and what happenes when you click new?
[15:55] <ikatnik> Get message "No Partition table found onf device /dev/sdb/"  .
[15:56] <diogenes_> ok look on the top
[15:56] <ikatnik> Done
[15:56] <diogenes_> you see the menus like GPartyed, Edit
[15:56] <diogenes_> click on device and Create partition table
[15:57] <ikatnik> Under Device, Can do. Says it will delete all the info on device. Go ahead?
[15:58] <diogenes_> yes but MAKE SURE ONCE AGAIN THAT UNDERNEATH is showing your usb device and not your hard drive
[15:59] <ikatnik> Got that (no HD). MS DOS type partition table (I assume, is default)?
[15:59] <diogenes_> yes
[15:59] <diogenes_> msdos
[16:00] <ikatnik> Done. No more triangular ! warning icon.
[16:00] <ikatnik> New brings up info dialog box.
[16:00] <ikatnik> Size 2002 MB
[16:01] <diogenes_> ok try to click on new now
[16:01] <ikatnik> +add?
[16:01] <ikatnik> Click on which?
[16:02] <diogenes_> yes add
[16:02] <diogenes_> and choose fat32
[16:03] <ikatnik> Did not see fat32. Might have been choice back when I had ms dos type.
[16:03] <ikatnik> File system is ext4
[16:03] <diogenes_> it's ok
[16:03] <diogenes_> now
[16:03] <diogenes_> what color is the little square
[16:03] <diogenes_> is it grey? green? blue?
[16:03] <ikatnik> Dark green.
[16:03] <diogenes_> ok
[16:04] <diogenes_> now look at action icons on the top, click on apply
[16:04] <ikatnik> Check Mark, apply pending operation.
[16:05] <ikatnik> "All operations completed successfully" which sounds good.
[16:05] <diogenes_> close that box and now right click on that again
[16:05] <ikatnik> Save details?
[16:05] <diogenes_> choose format to
[16:05] <diogenes_> don't save
[16:05] <diogenes_> format to and choose fat32 from the list
[16:06] <ikatnik> Applied pending operation (fat32). Light green small square.
[16:07] <diogenes_> ok all operations completed successful
[16:07] <diogenes_> ?
[16:07] <diogenes_> did you click on apply?
[16:07] <ikatnik> Yes. applied. Partition named /dev/sdb1 (done)
[16:08] <diogenes_> ok now close gparted, close terminal unplug and replug your usb and tell me if you see it now
[16:09] <ikatnik> I see it even without unplugging / plugging.
[16:09] <diogenes_> great job ikatnik you got it back, congratulations!!!
[16:10] <ikatnik> You are truly a wizard, and congratulations are due to you!! The USB appears blank. Something tingling tells me I am to go back to rosa writer and rewrite new OS.iso
[16:11] <diogenes_> ikatnik, wait
[16:11] <ikatnik> Standing by.
[16:11] <diogenes_> in possition standing by? do you play tom clancy's recon?
[16:12] <ikatnik> Sorry to confess I am such a dinosaur I do not play computer games. I waste my time in other, less constructive ways. Truth be told, this is a crappy USB I got for free at a conference with some dealers advertisers software on it, long gone.
[16:13] <diogenes_> ok now run in terminal
[16:13] <diogenes_> sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main'
[16:14] <diogenes_> tell me when done
[16:16] <ikatnik> Strangely does nothing. Just shows   ">" from my hitting enter.
[16:16] <diogenes_> add a '
[16:16] <diogenes_> and hit enter
[16:17] <diogenes_> don't write it manually, just copy/paste
[16:17] <ikatnik> Too late.
[16:18] <ikatnik> Again, does nothing. Sorry.
[16:19] <diogenes_> write here the exact command you gave to terminal
[16:20] <ikatnik> Ok. Tried again with a new terminal. Checking to make sure command is exact.
[16:21] <ikatnik> sudo apt-add-repository 'deb'http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main'
[16:21] <ikatnik> OK. I see the extra ' around deb. Will try again.
[16:23] <diogenes_> oh yeah it should be:  sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main'
[16:26] <ikatnik> I know I came closer when it asked for my password. After that, the terminal went back to beginning without (seeming) to do anything.
[16:26] <ikatnik> Try again?
[16:27] <diogenes_> ikatnik, click this:
[16:27] <diogenes_> http://liveusb.info/multisystem/install-depot-multisystem.sh.tar.bz2
[16:27] <ikatnik> Working
[16:28] <diogenes_> did you download it?
[16:28] <ikatnik> I thing so. Asking if I want to open with archive manager.
[16:28] <diogenes_> yes you open
[16:29] <diogenes_> and then click on extract
[16:30] <ikatnik> Seems to have done. En francais.
[16:30] <diogenes_> ok now, if it's in your Download folder then navigate to that folder
[16:30] <diogenes_> right click and open terminal here
[16:31] <diogenes_> after terminal opens you run: sudo ./install-depot-multisystem.sh
[16:34] <ikatnik> I am a bit lost. It ran something called "install-depot-multisystem.sh" in french (which is not a problem) /home user cache ...
[16:34] <ikatnik> But did not run in terminal.
[16:35] <diogenes_> ikatnik, open the terminal
[16:35] <ikatnik> Ready
[16:35] <diogenes_> run: cd ~/Downloads (if it's called downloads in french)
[16:37] <ikatnik> Does nothing. Wan me to look up "downloads" in French?
[16:38] <diogenes_> ikatnik, I've got roughly 5 minutes so hurry up
[16:38] <diogenes_> run pwd
[16:38] <diogenes_> and tell me what you see
[16:39] <ikatnik> ~/Downloads$ ~
[16:40] <diogenes_> good now run: sudo ./install-depot-multisystem.sh
[16:40] <diogenes_> tell me what you get
[16:40] <diogenes_> 2 minutes
[16:41] <ikatnik> Asks for password. Am giving it.
[16:41] <diogenes_> and?
[16:41] <diogenes_> after you entered the password?
[16:41] <ikatnik> command not found.
[16:41] <diogenes_> ok then listen, now I've got to go, if you want, come later and we'll see
[16:42]  * diogenes_ went offline
[16:42] <ikatnik> Thank you very much!
[16:49] <ikatnik> "Now to start the script please use\nthe menu: / Applications/Accessoires/MultiSystem."
[19:01] <adriancs35> Hello!
[19:01] <knome> 'lo
[19:01] <diogenes_> hi gentlemen
[19:02] <adriancs35> I was wondering if you guys have a minute to help me with a issue, it's probably because I'm stupid though.
[19:03] <knome> ask and find out please :)
[19:03] <adriancs35> I am trying to compile a application using GCC5, and I am encountering this error right before it links: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lvalgrind collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[19:03] <adriancs35> "
[19:23] <ikatnik> Hi. I am back.
[19:23] <diogenes_> ikatnik, hi, welcome
[19:25] <ikatnik> I still imagine that multisystems did some installation.  I have some sort of tab open which looks like an html or more an XML file. Not sure which. Includes French.
[19:25] <ikatnik> "Now to start the script please use\nthe menu: / Applications/Accessoires/MultiSystem."
[19:25] <ikatnik> BTW. Thank you kindly for the help this morning when you were on your way out!
[19:26] <diogenes_> ikatnik, you're welcome, now run in terminal
[19:26] <diogenes_> multisystem
[19:30] <ikatnik> sudo install? Sorry, which cmd exactly?
[19:30] <diogenes_> ikatnik, what did you say about multisystem done for you?
[19:31] <diogenes_> what have you tried
[19:34] <ikatnik> Last it seems was sudo ./install-multisystem-depot.sh , which asked for a password when I ran it, but went no where. But like I said, there is a document, which I will paste into paste.ubuntu.com (Pastebin) which I think you should see. Stand by.
[19:34] <diogenes_> ok
[19:35]  * diogenes_ takes a sip from the flask of patience
[19:37] <ikatnik> I am trying the patience. Thank you. A virtue, but not always mine. Pastebin URL: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006103/
[19:38] <ikatnik> Or maybe rather the patience is trying me.
[19:40] <diogenes_> ikatnik, download this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/289386214/gnome-multi-writer_3.22.1-1_amd64.deb
[19:41] <ikatnik> Opened via archive manager.
[19:41] <diogenes_> no
[19:41] <diogenes_> after download, double click
[19:41] <diogenes_> after download, double click
[19:45] <ikatnik> Is writing to USB (disk) after warning that all previous data on disk will be overwritten.
[19:45] <diogenes_> it will format it, deleting all the previous data and write new ones
[19:46] <ikatnik> Is slow (8.0 Mb/s, but working on it.
[19:46] <diogenes_> what? 8 Mbps is that slow?
[19:47] <ikatnik> I take your word it is not.
[19:47] <ikatnik> About 40% done.
[19:48] <diogenes_> then it's not 8 MB it's 8 KBps
[19:48] <ikatnik> Done. (of course) USB no longer visible on desktop.
[19:49] <diogenes_> usb should be visible because we didn't apply any actions on it
[19:50] <diogenes_> replug it and see
[19:50] <ikatnik> No, wrote new OS.iso to it. Did I jump the gun?
[19:51] <ikatnik> Still invisible. Maybe old / p. of trash USB?
[19:52] <diogenes_> wait wait waittttt, when last time we spoke, your usb was ok right?
[19:52] <ikatnik> Yes it was. And visible after painful restoration of partition. I can try that again.
[19:53] <ikatnik> Or I can use a newer, better, paid for (as opposed to free of charge) USB 16 gig. Just need time to empty it.
[19:55] <diogenes_> yeah, empty it and we'll continue
[19:55]  * diogenes_ takes another sip from the flask of patience
[19:56] <ikatnik> Ok. Stand by.
[19:59] <ikatnik> 5 - 10 minutes till back up of larger USB complete. Then will use multiwriter to write OS.iso to better, larger USB.
[20:04] <ikatnik> Your imbibing is appreciated.
[20:05] <diogenes_> oui monseur
[20:07] <ikatnik> Better USB is visible. Using multiwriter to write OS.iso to device.
[20:08] <diogenes_> ikatnik, what multiwriter
[20:08] <diogenes_> ?
[20:09] <ikatnik> gnome multiwriter is a gui program on my mousey menu.  Just showed up a little while ago. Wrong thing? I used it on the poor bad old USB.
[20:10] <diogenes_> yes, that is a good program
[20:10] <ikatnik> Going at 8MB/s.
[20:12] <ikatnik> USB disk still visible while writing.
[20:12] <diogenes_> ikatnik, I'm feeling the niose from the wings of Morpheus, do you know who is Morpheus?
[20:12] <diogenes_> moise*
[20:12] <diogenes_> noise*
[20:13] <sorinello> anyone using xubuntu-core here ? I might have an interesting issue, which does not happen on xubuntu
[20:14] <ikatnik> The greek god of dreams, after whom the potion called morphine is named? Or a character from a computer game, or sometime contributer to the xubuntu IRC channel?
[20:14] <diogenes_> ikatnik, the god of dreams
[20:15] <diogenes_> so ikatnik tell me at what stage the burning process is right now?
[20:16] <ikatnik> Yes, that Morpheus I know.  Looks like it is writing, though slow. The morpheus from the Matrix I am only a little familiar with. Am not that up on popular culture. I am a snob, or out of it. Or both.
[20:17] <diogenes_> don't underestimate yourself, you're cool,
[20:18] <diogenes_> should I ask my question again or you can scroll up and read it? :D
[20:19] <ikatnik> Which of so, so many question? Writing looks about 20% done. I am quite proud (or sometimes prod) of myself, and consider insulating myself from popular culture a revolutionary act. Or maybe just bragging.
[20:20] <ikatnik> This is a much bigger USB, if it is overwriting, it has much more work to do.
[20:21] <diogenes_> ikatnik, what image.iso you are writing to it?
[20:21] <diogenes_> what is its name?
[20:23] <ikatnik> xubuntu-14.05.5-desktop-i386.iso
[20:24] <ikatnik> Now you got me scared.
[20:24] <diogenes_> so it should be having around 1GB size
[20:24] <ikatnik> Yes.
[20:25] <ikatnik> But my guess is it is overwriting the previous data on the (I think) 16 gig USB stick.
[20:25] <diogenes_> and it doesn't matter on what size usb you're writing it to, it's either 2 BG or 200 GB it should be taking the same amount of time
[20:25] <diogenes_> because the image size is the same
[20:26] <ikatnik> Do not know why the delay. Is about 40% done
[20:26] <ikatnik> According to graphc via multiwriter.
[20:28] <ikatnik> I know it is working because the speed keeps changing, and the LED within the USB disk is blinking like a bird with sand in its eye.
[20:29] <diogenes_> ikatnik, I feel like Morpheus (the god of dreams and sleep) is slowly dragging me to his kingdom (if you got what I meant) so, having said that, I'd suggest you to either choose a short and straightforward way to resolve your issue which will invole you to download teamviewer and let me do this work in 5 minutes for you, or I will go to Morpheuse's kingdom and you can come tomorrow and all the next week trying to burn that
[20:29] <diogenes_> iso to usb :)
[20:30] <ikatnik> Teamviewer is fine with me, I am a trusting soul. Lead on.
[20:30] <diogenes_> so go ahead install it and write to me in private the ID and password
[20:31] <diogenes_> IN RPIVATE!!!!
[20:31] <diogenes_> private*
[20:31] <ikatnik> Let me search and download. I will go as fast as I can.
[20:33] <diogenes_> ikatnik, here: https://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb
[20:33] <ikatnik> 30 seconds left. (Via archive)
[20:35] <ikatnik> OK. Which of the extracted files do I click on?
[20:35] <diogenes_> what file did you download?
[20:35] <diogenes_> full name of it
[20:36] <ikatnik> control.tar.gz (extracted) and data.tar.bz2 (not extracted) and a text file
[20:37] <diogenes_> click  here: https://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb
[20:37] <diogenes_> download, after download, double click on it
[20:38] <ikatnik> Opening via archive manager.
[20:38] <diogenes_> nooooo
[20:38] <diogenes_> chose save
[20:38] <diogenes_> the second option
[20:38] <diogenes_> try again
[20:40] <ikatnik> Am in downloads folder (copy to desktop, mabye?
[20:41] <diogenes_> righ click on the free space in the download folder
[20:41] <diogenes_> and choose "open terminal here"
[20:42] <ikatnik> Only New Folder, Paste or Properties via right click.
[20:42] <diogenes_> ok then alt+ctrl+t
[20:43] <ikatnik> Ready (not sure the terminal is in downloads folder).
[20:43] <diogenes_> now
[20:43] <diogenes_> run: ls
[20:43] <diogenes_> copy/everything you see and paste to https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:43] <diogenes_> share the link here
[20:46] <ikatnik> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006522/
[20:47] <ikatnik> Not sure you are gonna like it.
[20:48] <diogenes_> now
[20:48] <diogenes_> run: cd Downloads
[20:48] <diogenes_> tell when done
[20:49] <ikatnik> Says bash: cd downloads. No such file or directory. Sorry
[20:50] <diogenes_> be EXTREMELY CAREFUL: I wrote: cd Downloads and not cd downloads
[20:50] <diogenes_> see the differrence?
[20:50] <diogenes_> capital 'D'
[20:50] <ikatnik> : CD no command "CD". Did with capital, still no command "CD"  . Did I forget the sudo?
[20:51] <ikatnik> Sorry
[20:51] <diogenes_> lol
[20:51] <diogenes_> sorry
[20:51] <diogenes_> cd (with small letters)
[20:51] <diogenes_> Downloads
[20:52] <diogenes_> with the first 'D' then 'o' 'w' 'n' 'l' nad so on
[20:52] <ikatnik> Now says ~/Downloads$
[20:52]  * diogenes_ feels sweated
[20:52] <diogenes_> ok now
[20:52] <diogenes_> run: ls
[20:53] <diogenes_> and same copy/[aste to https://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:53] <diogenes_> share the link here
[20:53] <ikatnik> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006566/
[20:56] <ikatnik> Perhaps there is a problem because I have my browser set to download files to the desktop? Sorry if this message is a needless complication.
[20:56] <diogenes_> ikatnik, ok this message was a good one
[20:56] <diogenes_> now run in terminal: cd ..
[20:56] <diogenes_> tell when done
[20:57] <ikatnik> Done. (Just cd or cd Downloads)?
[20:58] <diogenes_> does it still say ~/Downloads$
[20:58] <ikatnik> Says ~/Downloads like before, YES
[20:58] <ikatnik> forgot the dollar sign $
[20:59] <diogenes_> ok run: cd ~/Desktop
[20:59] <diogenes_> tell me when done
[20:59] <ikatnik> Still have teamviewer (numbers) .deb in downloads folder
[21:00] <diogenes_> ikatnik, did you run: cd ~/Desktop
[21:01] <ikatnik> Trying, I might need a new terminal.
[21:01] <diogenes_> ikatnik, tell me what did it say?
[21:01] <ikatnik> Keeps coming back to ~/Desktop$
[21:01] <diogenes_> that's fine
[21:02] <diogenes_> now
[21:02] <diogenes_> run: ls
[21:02] <diogenes_> copy/paste
[21:02] <diogenes_> and share the link here
[21:03] <ikatnik> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006614/
[21:06] <diogenes_> ikatnik, I still haven't seen teamviewer(numbers).deb neither on desktop nor in downloads
[21:06] <diogenes_> where is it?
[21:07] <ikatnik> I promise it is in downloads. I am looking at it. Temp > User > Downloads.
[21:09] <ikatnik> Or maybe I have the order wrong. But it contains the files I / we have downloaded over the last few minutes, hours. Including gnome writer and multiwriter download files.
[21:10] <diogenes_> be so kind and copy that teamviewer file to desktop :)
[21:11] <ikatnik> Done
[21:11] <diogenes_> is the terminal still opened?
[21:12] <ikatnik> Yes
[21:12] <diogenes_> run: ls
[21:12] <diogenes_> copy/paste share
[21:13] <ikatnik> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006658/   Teamviewer is there.
[21:14] <diogenes_> now run: sudo dpkg -i teamviewer_12.0.76279_i386-1.deb
[21:14] <diogenes_> and tell me what you get
[21:16] <ikatnik> Entered password. Now it is installing. Praise Bulwinkle.
[21:17] <diogenes_> tell me when it's done
[21:18] <ikatnik> Teamviewer 12 is in mousey menu.
[21:18] <diogenes_> start it
[21:19] <ikatnik> Should I shut down other applications?
[21:19] <diogenes_> no
[21:20] <diogenes_> has it started?
[21:22] <ikatnik> double clicking on. Not starting. Sorry! Terminal did say errors encountered while processing: Teamviewer i386
[21:22] <ikatnik> Start via commmand?
[21:23] <diogenes_> ikatnik, no, it's late already, I'm going to bed, come tomorrow morning and we shall continue.
[21:23]  * diogenes_ is offline
[21:23] <ikatnik> Thank you for all your help. Will see you soon.