[04:21] I am trying to install a new / different version of xubunt. Have downloaded package. How do I start the install? [04:41] !install [04:41] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate === Zren_ is now known as Zren [11:53] Hi [12:43] Hello. I am changing / converting to a different version of xubuntu. Have downloaded and extracted .iso file. Now how to install? [12:47] ikatnik, extracted the .iso? no. [12:48] use the ubuntu startup creator tool to make a bootable USB. [12:48] boot from USB and install [12:57] Thanks cfhowlett. Searched for ubuntu startup creator tool. Found. Clicked on. By default wants to open with bash. Chose "open link". Then it went nowhere. Do I need to use a Cmd? If so, what? [13:03] whoa wait. [13:03] what ubuntu version do you have currently? [13:04] the terminal command is usb-creator-gtk [13:09] I know the version should be obvious. Ran inxi -Fxrc0. Got specs, but not version xubuntu. Sorry, am new to this Am running cmd now. [13:14] OK. Ran command and it installed. Now ? [13:39] After installing ubuntu startup creator tool, how do I create the bootable USB? [13:54] ikatnik, use rosa [13:55] Thanks, diogenes. With all respect, how do I use rosa? [13:55] wait [13:57] ikatnik, here: http://wiki.rosalab.ru/en/index.php/ROSA_ImageWriter#Where_can_I_take_it.3F [13:57] ikatnik, ? you use the startup creator tool to create the USB [13:58] I had a lot of troubles with it, so I better use Rosa Image Writer [14:03] Sorry to be near helpless. I have downloaded the xz file. Now extract? [14:03] ikatnik, yes extract and doubleclick on RosaImageWriter [14:06] Image root, I assume? [14:07] Or Image computer, or some file(s) within? [14:08] ikatnik, what you wanna write? [14:08] Um something to get to the USB startup disk? [14:09] you wanna write an image.iso? [14:09] to usb? [14:11] to USB is set via a dialog box. File name image.iso ? [14:12] ikatnik, let's start from the beginning, what is your goal you want to achieve in this very hot afternoon? [14:16] Create startup usb. Via rosa image. >I need to enter a file name (I assume) in a dialog box called "Image:" which is either or within computer or boot. Sorry, even the exact terminology of "image" I am not so clear on. [14:18] ikatnik, there are 2 ways of helping you, 1. the quickest and less painful, 2. the longest and more painful (which doesn't guarantee a success for you) [14:20] when you decide after which one you go, let me know [14:23] I am not trying to be difficult. I am not expert in the least. Nomenclature is often a problem for me. But I value your help immensely and am very grateful for it. I have a dialog box open in Rosa Image Writer that asks for "Image:". Clicking on the icon to its right, which is some sort of navigation, opens "Computer" and "root". [14:26] yes, now you have to find where your image is stored on the computer, I assume it's somewhere in your Downloads folder [14:26] so when that "navigation" opens your "Computer" and "root" [14:27] you go to computer/home/Downloads and find your imagename.iso [14:27] OK. I can do that. To a large degree, I do not have an overall understand of what I am doing in the way of creating an image, and or creating a startup USB. Though I do understand that a startup USB is a device from which I can boot the computer when the system itself (no removable disk or USB) is having a problem. I am realize how valuable one can be. Its relation to installing a new OS I do not understand. [14:28] Sorry if this is the slow and painful way. [14:29] ikatnik, you got it right, startup disk, usb bootable drive, bootable usb they are all synonyms [14:30] that means that you download an operating system as an image for instance xubuntu-16.04-64bit.iso [14:30] to install it on your pc you have two options to either write this image (xubuntu-16.04-64bit.iso) to a DVD or to a USB [14:30] Am about to create image of .iso for new (replacement) OS. OK. It now appears I am about to install the new OS (message that all data will be lost) [14:31] this will destroy all your data on the USB drive and install the files from the imagename.iso [14:38] Hi, I'm having troubles to boot xubuntu, sometimes it freezes after the grub. Does anyone know why this is happening? [14:38] Oh no. I need to get me another USB drive to use. Please stand by. [14:44] 'New' OS.iso writing to USB. [14:47] Image on USB. Go to install? [14:51] Now my system is not reading the USB. I might need to reboot and be back. [15:15] My system is no longer reading the USB. Should I try burning a DVD of the new OS.iso? [15:18] ikatnik, don't kernel panic [15:18] everything is under control [15:19] ikatnik, somehing [15:20] Not panicking yet. But soon... [15:21] ikatnik, listen [15:21] and try to reply as fast as possible because I have little time [15:21] is your usb attached to the pc [15:22] Yes, inserted into USB slot (of all places) [15:22] we don't need you to plug it in all the places at the same time, it will do if it's inserted into at least one [15:23] You have my complete and undivided attention. One slot at a time. [15:23] what else apart from that usb is insetred? [15:23] inserted* [15:24] * diogenes_ whistles [15:24] An external HD. Which I can remove. Was preparing to move all my backed up files from a second USB to the external HD. [15:25] ikatnik, listen very carefully, unplug everything, literally any device from any usb ports EXCEPT the usb which does not work [15:26] Done. (very carefully) [15:26] now [15:26] what is the size of your USB? [15:26] capacity GB [15:26] 2 gig [15:26] good now [15:27] navigate to your RosaImageWriter folder once again and open it [15:27] tell me when you done [15:28] and one hour later [15:28] Done. It does show a USB (to write to). My USB just does not show up on the desktop (or file navigation) like I would like. [15:29] ikatnik, I told you, keep calm, don't panic [15:29] everything is under control [15:29] now [15:29] I am not panicking as fast as I can. [15:29] what do you see under USB Device section in the rosa [15:30] (and another hour later) [15:32] test [15:33] Sorry /dev/sdb/ USB Flash drive (2003 MB) [15:33] ikatnik, I'm still waiting [15:33] ok good [15:33] now [15:33] click on the "Clear" button which is right before the "Write" button [15:34] Done. Says need to format device. Am very ready. [15:34] yes [15:34] continue [15:35] Sorry if I am jumping the gun, but no new dialog or evidence of how to continue (after clear). [How to format]. [15:36] ikatnik, now unplug and replug your usb and tell me if you can see it now [15:38] Sorry. Still does not show up on desktop or file system navigation. Does show up in rosa dialog box. (same as before). [15:39] tell me what happened when you clicked on Clear? [15:40] Told me all data would be lost (more or less). Asked if I wanted to go on (yes). Told me I need to format device. [15:41] ok good, now go to the menu and look for gparted [15:41] wait, a quicker way would be running: gksu gparted [15:42] Very sorry. Which menu (where)? Rosa? Not being smart here, just mystified. [15:43] open terminal and run: gksu gparted [15:43] press alt+ctrl+t [15:43] Installing [15:45] Has installed. [15:45] run the given command [15:46] OK. Now (dialog box) open with GParted info (table) [15:47] now, click on the little box on the right upper corner which says /dev/sda [15:47] Looks like hard drive partitions (in my humble opinion) [15:48] after doing that, a drop down menu will open, you click on your usb device (/dev/sdb) [15:48] Shows big and little (HD and USB) [15:48] click on usb [15:48] make SURE it's your 2GB usb [15:50] Unallocated Partition (with triangular warning ! icon) shows USB 1.96 G (which is size of USB). [15:50] you have to right click on that "unallocated bla bla bla" and click on nw [15:50] new or create (I forgot) [15:51] it's "new" [15:51] "No Partition table found on device /dev/sdb" [15:52] wait if it's triangular sign, then you have to right click on that: choose unmount (or if unavailable choose delete partition) [15:53] Same message. [15:53] ok tell me everything you see when you right click on it [15:54] On menu, only "new" and "information" are lit up. All else (like delete) is grayed out. [15:54] and what happenes when you click new? [15:55] Get message "No Partition table found onf device /dev/sdb/" . [15:56] ok look on the top [15:56] Done [15:56] you see the menus like GPartyed, Edit [15:56] click on device and Create partition table [15:57] Under Device, Can do. Says it will delete all the info on device. Go ahead? [15:58] yes but MAKE SURE ONCE AGAIN THAT UNDERNEATH is showing your usb device and not your hard drive [15:59] Got that (no HD). MS DOS type partition table (I assume, is default)? [15:59] yes [15:59] msdos [16:00] Done. No more triangular ! warning icon. [16:00] New brings up info dialog box. [16:00] Size 2002 MB [16:01] ok try to click on new now [16:01] +add? [16:01] Click on which? [16:02] yes add [16:02] and choose fat32 [16:03] Did not see fat32. Might have been choice back when I had ms dos type. [16:03] File system is ext4 [16:03] it's ok [16:03] now [16:03] what color is the little square [16:03] is it grey? green? blue? [16:03] Dark green. [16:03] ok [16:04] now look at action icons on the top, click on apply [16:04] Check Mark, apply pending operation. [16:05] "All operations completed successfully" which sounds good. [16:05] close that box and now right click on that again [16:05] Save details? [16:05] choose format to [16:05] don't save [16:05] format to and choose fat32 from the list [16:06] Applied pending operation (fat32). Light green small square. [16:07] ok all operations completed successful [16:07] ? [16:07] did you click on apply? [16:07] Yes. applied. Partition named /dev/sdb1 (done) [16:08] ok now close gparted, close terminal unplug and replug your usb and tell me if you see it now [16:09] I see it even without unplugging / plugging. [16:09] great job ikatnik you got it back, congratulations!!! [16:10] You are truly a wizard, and congratulations are due to you!! The USB appears blank. Something tingling tells me I am to go back to rosa writer and rewrite new OS.iso [16:11] ikatnik, wait [16:11] Standing by. [16:11] in possition standing by? do you play tom clancy's recon? [16:12] Sorry to confess I am such a dinosaur I do not play computer games. I waste my time in other, less constructive ways. Truth be told, this is a crappy USB I got for free at a conference with some dealers advertisers software on it, long gone. [16:13] ok now run in terminal [16:13] sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main' [16:14] tell me when done [16:16] Strangely does nothing. Just shows ">" from my hitting enter. [16:16] add a ' [16:16] and hit enter [16:17] don't write it manually, just copy/paste [16:17] Too late. [16:18] Again, does nothing. Sorry. [16:19] write here the exact command you gave to terminal [16:20] Ok. Tried again with a new terminal. Checking to make sure command is exact. [16:21] sudo apt-add-repository 'deb'http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main' [16:21] OK. I see the extra ' around deb. Will try again. [16:23] oh yeah it should be: sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main' [16:26] I know I came closer when it asked for my password. After that, the terminal went back to beginning without (seeming) to do anything. [16:26] Try again? [16:27] ikatnik, click this: [16:27] http://liveusb.info/multisystem/install-depot-multisystem.sh.tar.bz2 [16:27] Working [16:28] did you download it? [16:28] I thing so. Asking if I want to open with archive manager. [16:28] yes you open [16:29] and then click on extract [16:30] Seems to have done. En francais. [16:30] ok now, if it's in your Download folder then navigate to that folder [16:30] right click and open terminal here [16:31] after terminal opens you run: sudo ./install-depot-multisystem.sh [16:34] I am a bit lost. It ran something called "install-depot-multisystem.sh" in french (which is not a problem) /home user cache ... [16:34] But did not run in terminal. [16:35] ikatnik, open the terminal [16:35] Ready [16:35] run: cd ~/Downloads (if it's called downloads in french) [16:37] Does nothing. Wan me to look up "downloads" in French? [16:38] ikatnik, I've got roughly 5 minutes so hurry up [16:38] run pwd [16:38] and tell me what you see [16:39] ~/Downloads$ ~ [16:40] good now run: sudo ./install-depot-multisystem.sh [16:40] tell me what you get [16:40] 2 minutes [16:41] Asks for password. Am giving it. [16:41] and? [16:41] after you entered the password? [16:41] command not found. [16:41] ok then listen, now I've got to go, if you want, come later and we'll see [16:42] * diogenes_ went offline [16:42] Thank you very much! [16:49] "Now to start the script please use\nthe menu: / Applications/Accessoires/MultiSystem." [19:01] Hello! [19:01] 'lo [19:01] hi gentlemen [19:02] I was wondering if you guys have a minute to help me with a issue, it's probably because I'm stupid though. [19:03] ask and find out please :) [19:03] I am trying to compile a application using GCC5, and I am encountering this error right before it links: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lvalgrind collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status [19:03] " [19:23] Hi. I am back. [19:23] ikatnik, hi, welcome [19:25] I still imagine that multisystems did some installation. I have some sort of tab open which looks like an html or more an XML file. Not sure which. Includes French. [19:25] "Now to start the script please use\nthe menu: / Applications/Accessoires/MultiSystem." [19:25] BTW. Thank you kindly for the help this morning when you were on your way out! [19:26] ikatnik, you're welcome, now run in terminal [19:26] multisystem [19:30] sudo install? Sorry, which cmd exactly? [19:30] ikatnik, what did you say about multisystem done for you? [19:31] what have you tried [19:34] Last it seems was sudo ./install-multisystem-depot.sh , which asked for a password when I ran it, but went no where. But like I said, there is a document, which I will paste into paste.ubuntu.com (Pastebin) which I think you should see. Stand by. [19:34] ok [19:35] * diogenes_ takes a sip from the flask of patience [19:37] I am trying the patience. Thank you. A virtue, but not always mine. Pastebin URL: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006103/ [19:38] Or maybe rather the patience is trying me. [19:40] ikatnik, download this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/289386214/gnome-multi-writer_3.22.1-1_amd64.deb [19:41] Opened via archive manager. [19:41] no [19:41] after download, double click [19:41] after download, double click [19:45] Is writing to USB (disk) after warning that all previous data on disk will be overwritten. [19:45] it will format it, deleting all the previous data and write new ones [19:46] Is slow (8.0 Mb/s, but working on it. [19:46] what? 8 Mbps is that slow? [19:47] I take your word it is not. [19:47] About 40% done. [19:48] then it's not 8 MB it's 8 KBps [19:48] Done. (of course) USB no longer visible on desktop. [19:49] usb should be visible because we didn't apply any actions on it [19:50] replug it and see [19:50] No, wrote new OS.iso to it. Did I jump the gun? [19:51] Still invisible. Maybe old / p. of trash USB? [19:52] wait wait waittttt, when last time we spoke, your usb was ok right? [19:52] Yes it was. And visible after painful restoration of partition. I can try that again. [19:53] Or I can use a newer, better, paid for (as opposed to free of charge) USB 16 gig. Just need time to empty it. [19:55] yeah, empty it and we'll continue [19:55] * diogenes_ takes another sip from the flask of patience [19:56] Ok. Stand by. [19:59] 5 - 10 minutes till back up of larger USB complete. Then will use multiwriter to write OS.iso to better, larger USB. [20:04] Your imbibing is appreciated. [20:05] oui monseur [20:07] Better USB is visible. Using multiwriter to write OS.iso to device. [20:08] ikatnik, what multiwriter [20:08] ? [20:09] gnome multiwriter is a gui program on my mousey menu. Just showed up a little while ago. Wrong thing? I used it on the poor bad old USB. [20:10] yes, that is a good program [20:10] Going at 8MB/s. [20:12] USB disk still visible while writing. [20:12] ikatnik, I'm feeling the niose from the wings of Morpheus, do you know who is Morpheus? [20:12] moise* [20:12] noise* [20:13] anyone using xubuntu-core here ? I might have an interesting issue, which does not happen on xubuntu [20:14] The greek god of dreams, after whom the potion called morphine is named? Or a character from a computer game, or sometime contributer to the xubuntu IRC channel? [20:14] ikatnik, the god of dreams [20:15] so ikatnik tell me at what stage the burning process is right now? [20:16] Yes, that Morpheus I know. Looks like it is writing, though slow. The morpheus from the Matrix I am only a little familiar with. Am not that up on popular culture. I am a snob, or out of it. Or both. [20:17] don't underestimate yourself, you're cool, [20:18] should I ask my question again or you can scroll up and read it? :D [20:19] Which of so, so many question? Writing looks about 20% done. I am quite proud (or sometimes prod) of myself, and consider insulating myself from popular culture a revolutionary act. Or maybe just bragging. [20:20] This is a much bigger USB, if it is overwriting, it has much more work to do. [20:21] ikatnik, what image.iso you are writing to it? [20:21] what is its name? [20:23] xubuntu-14.05.5-desktop-i386.iso [20:24] Now you got me scared. [20:24] so it should be having around 1GB size [20:24] Yes. [20:25] But my guess is it is overwriting the previous data on the (I think) 16 gig USB stick. [20:25] and it doesn't matter on what size usb you're writing it to, it's either 2 BG or 200 GB it should be taking the same amount of time [20:25] because the image size is the same [20:26] Do not know why the delay. Is about 40% done [20:26] According to graphc via multiwriter. [20:28] I know it is working because the speed keeps changing, and the LED within the USB disk is blinking like a bird with sand in its eye. [20:29] ikatnik, I feel like Morpheus (the god of dreams and sleep) is slowly dragging me to his kingdom (if you got what I meant) so, having said that, I'd suggest you to either choose a short and straightforward way to resolve your issue which will invole you to download teamviewer and let me do this work in 5 minutes for you, or I will go to Morpheuse's kingdom and you can come tomorrow and all the next week trying to burn that [20:29] iso to usb :) [20:30] Teamviewer is fine with me, I am a trusting soul. Lead on. [20:30] so go ahead install it and write to me in private the ID and password [20:31] IN RPIVATE!!!! [20:31] private* [20:31] Let me search and download. I will go as fast as I can. [20:33] ikatnik, here: https://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb [20:33] 30 seconds left. (Via archive) [20:35] OK. Which of the extracted files do I click on? [20:35] what file did you download? [20:35] full name of it [20:36] control.tar.gz (extracted) and data.tar.bz2 (not extracted) and a text file [20:37] click here: https://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb [20:37] download, after download, double click on it [20:38] Opening via archive manager. [20:38] nooooo [20:38] chose save [20:38] the second option [20:38] try again [20:40] Am in downloads folder (copy to desktop, mabye? [20:41] righ click on the free space in the download folder [20:41] and choose "open terminal here" [20:42] Only New Folder, Paste or Properties via right click. [20:42] ok then alt+ctrl+t [20:43] Ready (not sure the terminal is in downloads folder). [20:43] now [20:43] run: ls [20:43] copy/everything you see and paste to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ [20:43] share the link here [20:46] https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006522/ [20:47] Not sure you are gonna like it. [20:48] now [20:48] run: cd Downloads [20:48] tell when done [20:49] Says bash: cd downloads. No such file or directory. Sorry [20:50] be EXTREMELY CAREFUL: I wrote: cd Downloads and not cd downloads [20:50] see the differrence? [20:50] capital 'D' [20:50] : CD no command "CD". Did with capital, still no command "CD" . Did I forget the sudo? [20:51] Sorry [20:51] lol [20:51] sorry [20:51] cd (with small letters) [20:51] Downloads [20:52] with the first 'D' then 'o' 'w' 'n' 'l' nad so on [20:52] Now says ~/Downloads$ [20:52] * diogenes_ feels sweated [20:52] ok now [20:52] run: ls [20:53] and same copy/[aste to https://paste.ubuntu.com [20:53] share the link here [20:53] https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006566/ [20:56] Perhaps there is a problem because I have my browser set to download files to the desktop? Sorry if this message is a needless complication. [20:56] ikatnik, ok this message was a good one [20:56] now run in terminal: cd .. [20:56] tell when done [20:57] Done. (Just cd or cd Downloads)? [20:58] does it still say ~/Downloads$ [20:58] Says ~/Downloads like before, YES [20:58] forgot the dollar sign $ [20:59] ok run: cd ~/Desktop [20:59] tell me when done [20:59] Still have teamviewer (numbers) .deb in downloads folder [21:00] ikatnik, did you run: cd ~/Desktop [21:01] Trying, I might need a new terminal. [21:01] ikatnik, tell me what did it say? [21:01] Keeps coming back to ~/Desktop$ [21:01] that's fine [21:02] now [21:02] run: ls [21:02] copy/paste [21:02] and share the link here [21:03] https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006614/ [21:06] ikatnik, I still haven't seen teamviewer(numbers).deb neither on desktop nor in downloads [21:06] where is it? [21:07] I promise it is in downloads. I am looking at it. Temp > User > Downloads. [21:09] Or maybe I have the order wrong. But it contains the files I / we have downloaded over the last few minutes, hours. Including gnome writer and multiwriter download files. [21:10] be so kind and copy that teamviewer file to desktop :) [21:11] Done [21:11] is the terminal still opened? [21:12] Yes [21:12] run: ls [21:12] copy/paste share [21:13] https://paste.ubuntu.com/25006658/ Teamviewer is there. [21:14] now run: sudo dpkg -i teamviewer_12.0.76279_i386-1.deb [21:14] and tell me what you get [21:16] Entered password. Now it is installing. Praise Bulwinkle. [21:17] tell me when it's done [21:18] Teamviewer 12 is in mousey menu. [21:18] start it [21:19] Should I shut down other applications? [21:19] no [21:20] has it started? [21:22] double clicking on. Not starting. Sorry! Terminal did say errors encountered while processing: Teamviewer i386 [21:22] Start via commmand? [21:23] ikatnik, no, it's late already, I'm going to bed, come tomorrow morning and we shall continue. [21:23] * diogenes_ is offline [21:23] Thank you for all your help. Will see you soon.