[04:14] <francisco> hi
[04:56] <RobertBerger> Hi. I am searching for a solution (preseed?) or command line to automate adding of 2 keyboard layouts (en,de) to Ubuntu/Mate. System->Preferences->Hardware->Keyboard->Layout (English US, German)
[04:57] <RobertBerger> Please let me know if/how you have done something like that
[04:59] <alkisg> I'm using "debian-installer/language=el keyboard-configuration/layoutcode=gr", and this puts the default keyboard layouts for Greece, which are us,gr
[04:59] <alkisg> Dunno about de
[05:00] <alkisg> Note though that this is a xorg/console setting, and mate just inherits it, so it's unrelated to the desktop environment
[05:28] <RobertBerger> @alkisg You mean with preseed?
[05:29] <alkisg> RobertBerger: yes, although I'm actually using the cmdline to pass those
[05:29] <alkisg> It's easier when you only have a couple of values
[05:30] <RobertBerger> I use Forman/Puppet/preseed and this seems to be the only missing piece at the moment
[05:30] <RobertBerger> I'll give it a try. Thanks
[05:30] <RobertBerger> BTW where in Greece are you. I am currently in Maroussi.
[05:31] <alkisg> Haha, nice, I'm in Ioannina, to the top/left of the map
[05:32] <RobertBerger> Hehe - well not quite around the corner ;)
[05:32] <alkisg> What are you using foreman etc for?
[05:32] <alkisg> Many disposable machines there?
[05:33] <RobertBerger> I am doing trainings
[05:33] <RobertBerger> So I need to provision a couple of laptops
[05:34] <RobertBerger> Also I am trying to make my infrastructure somehow reproduce-able
[05:34] <alkisg> Have you seen ltsp?
[05:38] <RobertBerger> Yes I played around with edubuntu.
[05:38] <RobertBerger> This would not work for my use case I think, since I am into Embedded LInux
[05:38] <RobertBerger> People need to cross-compile on the machines
[05:42] <alkisg> ltsp is about netbooting any computers with any os that you want
[05:42] <alkisg> So you e.g. setup an ubuntu-mate template machine, and directly netboot the clients with that
[05:43] <alkisg> And you setup all the infrastructure that you want , cross compilers etc, in the template machine
[05:43] <alkisg> The bonus there is that you do all that graphically from synaptic etc, without learning about foreman, puppet, preseeding etc
[05:47] <RobertBerger> I did something like that from a school with the difference that the thin clients did not even have hard discs inside and everything ran form a server
[05:48] <RobertBerger> for a school
[05:50] <alkisg> It's not different, that's the way ltsp works, without disks
[05:51] <alkisg> And it supports both thin and fat clients (thin run the session on the server, fat locally on the client)
[05:51] <alkisg> All diskless
[05:51] <alkisg> So you only need to maintain one template installation, nothing else at all
[06:00] <RobertBerger> I have scenarios with 10 laptops. Each is an i7 with 8 threads and the bottleneck is disc I/O.
[06:00] <RobertBerger> while compiling ;)
[06:00] <RobertBerger> Well yocto building
[06:00] <RobertBerger> Need to leave now - delivering a training - CU
[07:31] <sam__> sysc3
[09:37] <CFox> hi)
[19:43] <jlxbm> Not very active today!
[19:44] <jlxbm> Any mate on RPI3 experts out there?
[20:25] <monkey> Hi guys.. how can i make a NTFS file system win 10 bootable usb from ubuntu mate
[20:28] <Akuli> oh you're here too lets talk here so others can help too :)
[20:28] <Akuli> how familiar are you with the terminal?
[20:28] <monkey> newbie..dunno anything
[20:28] <Akuli> ok
[20:29] <Akuli> there are gui ways to do this too, might be nicer fro you
[20:29] <monkey> ok
[20:29] <Akuli> do you want to try it the terminal way?
[20:29] <Akuli> personally i trust terminal tools more, they always work
[20:29] <monkey> anything is fine...if i can understand
[20:30] <Akuli> sure
[20:30] <Akuli> i'll try to explain everything as we go
[20:30] <monkey> lets start
[20:30] <Akuli> don't plug in the stick yet
[20:30] <Akuli> $something means "type something to terminal and press enter"
[20:30] <Akuli> $ lsblk
[20:30] <Akuli> "list block devices", practically your hard drive, usb sticks and all partitions
[20:30] <Akuli> it outputs a bunch of stuff, don't show all of that to me
[20:31] <monkey> ok.did
[20:31] <Akuli> now plug in the stick
[20:31] <Akuli> cancel any dialogs that pop up
[20:31] <Akuli> $ lsblk
[20:31] <Akuli> now you should have more stuff there, that's the stick
[20:32] <monkey> yes
[20:32] <Akuli> it's sdSOMETHING
[20:32] <Akuli> what is it?
[20:32] <Akuli> probably sdb
[20:32] <monkey> sdb
[20:32] <Akuli> ok
[20:32] <Akuli> type this in, but don't press enter yet:   sudo dd if=
[20:33] <Akuli> sudo means "do whatever u want to my stick"
[20:33] <Akuli> i dont remember what dd is short for, it just copies a file and displays stats about what it did
[20:33] <Akuli> now when you have that typed, drag and drop the iso there
[20:33] <Akuli> so now you should have:   sudo dd if='/some/long/path/to/windows.iso'
[20:33] <monkey> ok
[20:33] <Akuli> you have that?
[20:33] <monkey> yep
[20:34] <Akuli> make sure you have at least 1 space at the end
[20:34] <Akuli> add of= to the line
[20:34] <Akuli> actually
[20:34] <Akuli> add of=/dev/sdb
[20:34] <Akuli> "device sdb"
[20:34] <Akuli> if is in file, of is outfile
[20:34] <monkey> one space after = right
[20:34] <Akuli> no
[20:34] <Akuli> no spaces around =
[20:34] <monkey> ok
[20:34] <monkey> sorry
[20:35] <Akuli> now you should have:  sudo dd if='/the/path' of=/dev/sdb
[20:35] <Akuli> no problem :) you're doing well
[20:35] <monkey> one space after iso'
[20:35] <monkey> right
[20:35] <Akuli> yes great
[20:35] <Akuli> press enter
[20:36] <Akuli> you won't see your password, just type it blindly and press enter
[20:36] <Akuli> then wait for it to finish and your stick is ready :)
[20:36] <Akuli> unfortunately plain dd doesn't have any kind of progress indicator thingy
[20:37] <monkey> it says dd: unrecognized operand ‘/dev/sdb’
[20:37] <monkey> and forgot to tell..can i create in ntfs format
[20:37] <Akuli> of=/dev/sdb
[20:37] <Akuli> the iso should contain whatever partitions are needed
[20:38] <Akuli> make sure that you have no spaces arond =
[20:38] <monkey> i mean the stick is formated in ntfs
[20:38] <Akuli> hmm
[20:38] <monkey> its ok right
[20:38] <Akuli> i think it shouldn't matter
[20:38] <Akuli> whatever is there is overwritten with this command
[20:38] <Akuli> i think i've used it for windows xp isos in the past too, so it should work
[20:39] <monkey> i pressed enter
[20:39] <monkey> no log
[20:40] <monkey> i mean its not showing anything
[20:41] <Akuli> right
[20:41] <Akuli> you just need to wait and trust it :)
[20:41] <Akuli> it kind of sucks
[20:41] <monkey> thank you so much...terminal is really better than cmd.
[20:42] <Akuli> right
[20:42] <Akuli> powershell is kind of a step in the right direction but not really
[20:42] <DarkPsydeLord> you know what sucks the most? not having tacos for dinner :(
[20:42] <monkey> so is there any course where i can learn how to use terminal
[20:43] <Akuli> i have just looked up stuff as i have needed
[20:43] <SirMeowington5> Hey guys, I made a forum post about 10 hours ago and received no responses. Could one of you maybe help me out?
[20:43] <Akuli> monkey, basic commands are mostly same as in cmd, but ls instead of dir
[20:43] <Akuli> dir works too but ls has nice colors by default
[20:43] <monkey> :)
[20:43] <Akuli> SirMeowington5, ask your question, maybe i or someone else has time :)
[20:44] <monkey> Thank you akuli...bye
[20:44] <Akuli> monkey, wait
[20:44] <monkey> yep
[20:44] <Akuli> i found this thing, seems ok https://www.cheatography.com/davechild/cheat-sheets/linux-command-line/
[20:44] <Akuli> anyway you can do all kinds of cool stuff with the terminal
[20:44] <Akuli> control volume:  $ alsamixer
[20:44] <SirMeowington5> I have a MacBook Pro which has a dead discrete graphics chip. I managed to get Mac OS to run again by removing some kexts but without those kexts the powerprefs and thermals are thrown way off. Is there a way to disable the discrete GPU in Ubuntu Mate completely that might resolve thermals/power consumption issues?
[20:45] <Akuli> monkey, play tetris:  $ tint
[20:45] <Akuli> monkey, be annoyed when you mistype ls:  $ sudo apt install sl
[20:45] <Akuli> fun stuff :)
[20:45] <Akuli> oh
[20:45] <Akuli> look up acronyms:  $ wtf is lmao
[20:46] <Akuli> read documentation:  $ man wtf
[20:46] <Akuli> $ man man
[20:46] <Akuli> nice introduction to terminal:  $ man intro
[20:46] <monkey> u mean tetris in terminal?
[20:46] <Akuli> yep
[20:46] <Akuli> its cool
[20:46] <monkey> we can play games in terminal? sounds cool
[20:46] <Akuli> you need to install it, but if you don't have it installed you'll get installation instructions :)
[20:46] <Akuli> yep
[20:47] <Akuli> $ sudo apt install bsdgames
[20:47] <Akuli> $ ls /usr/games
[20:47] <Akuli> to get a list of some game commands
[20:47] <monkey> but terminal is busy
[20:47] <Akuli> open another terminal
[20:48] <monkey> yes did it..now its installing something
[20:49] <Akuli> have fun with my commands :)
[20:49] <Akuli> $ nano akulinotes
[20:49] <Akuli> kinda like edit in docs
[20:49] <Akuli> dos
[20:50] <monkey> it opened another terminal....but kind of not looking like terminal
[20:50] <Akuli> sounds weird
[20:50] <Akuli> the nano thing?
[20:51] <monkey> yes
[20:51] <Akuli> oh it's the editor
[20:51] <monkey> how did u open it?
[20:51] <SirMeowington5> I take it nobody knows the answer to my issue :(
[20:51] <monkey> how did i open it
[20:51] <Akuli> monkey, you typed nano something
[20:51] <Akuli> you can type stuff there and e.g. save and quit with Ctrl-X (^X in the bottom help area)
[20:52] <Akuli> SirMeowington5, i don't know, not many other people active right now :)
[20:52] <Akuli> you can ask on #ubuntu if nobody knows here
[20:52] <SirMeowington5> What would be a good time to come back?
[20:52] <Akuli> i dont know
[20:52] <Akuli> not many macbook guys here :(
[20:53] <Akuli> monkey, ctrl+X gets you back to where you were before
[20:53] <SirMeowington5> Yeah, I figured, also a pretty unique issue I imagine
[20:53] <Akuli> monkey, the "basic terminal"
[20:53] <monkey> so u made ur own set of commands?
[20:53] <Akuli> SirMeowington5, gpu problems aren't that rare, i'm sure someone on irc knows what to do :)
[20:54] <Akuli> monkey, i don't get it
[20:54] <Akuli> oh the $nano akulicommands ?
[20:54] <Akuli> akulicommands was a file name
[20:54] <monkey> when i typed the nano thing, it displayed ur name on it
[20:54] <SirMeowington5> Okay, I'll check out the Ubuntu channel tomorrow then if I get no responses in the forum overnight.
[20:55] <monkey> so did u create that file..it shows ur name
[20:55] <Akuli> no, you created a file called akulicommands :)
[21:00] <monkey> u made a guy u knows ntg about terminal create a file
[21:00] <monkey> in terminal
[21:00] <monkey> sry went to piss
[21:01] <monkey> so on average, how much time does it take to create usb bootable stick in terminal
[21:03] <Akuli> depends on the stick and size of the iso
[21:03] <Akuli> usually not more than 15 minutes, but be patient :)
[21:03] <Akuli> i'll be back tomorrow, bye
[21:03] <monkey> see u
[21:04] <monkey> maybe i need to connect with u in fb
[21:04] <monkey> i have a lot to ask
[21:12] <DarkPsydeLord> then simply ask
[21:12] <DarkPsydeLord> this place is filled with knowledgeable people
[21:12] <jack_sparrow> Filled might be over stating it
[21:13] <DarkPsydeLord> ok then... this place have a few skilled people
[21:17] <tico> preciso desinstalar o firefox e nao consifo
[21:17] <tico> consigo
[21:17] <tico> alguem sabe como consigo?
[21:18] <jack_sparrow> /join #ubuntu-es
[21:30] <DarkPsydeLord> hes talking portuguese not spanish
[21:31] <jack_sparrow> /join #ubuntu-pt                ?
[21:32] <jack_sparrow> brasil messes me all up too
[21:38] <DarkPsydeLord> hahaha understandable