[08:35] <foobarry> iplayer works on my near identical work PC ..strange
[08:35] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:09] <diplo> Morning all
[10:09] <brobostigon> morning
[11:42] <diddledan> inkscape is now in the windows 10 appstore?! :-o
[11:42] <diddledan> as is krita
[11:43]  * zmoylan-pi waits till win7 is in the win 10 app store... :-)
[11:45] <diddledan> lol
[11:45] <diddledan> I can't find opensuse though
[11:46] <zmoylan-pi> is emacs there? at least a decent os replacement... :-P
[11:48] <diddledan> nope
[11:48] <diddledan> I can't work emacs, anyway
[11:48] <zmoylan-pi> well they lost stallman then as a customer... :-D
[12:22] <diddledan> fun systemd bug: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237
[12:23] <diddledan> screenie if you don't want to read the whole bug:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DIvxKmFX/
[12:24] <diddledan> basically if your username begins with the number 0 then any services spawned by systemd supposedly for your username get root privs instead
[12:26] <foobarry> anyone ever compiled python without optimisations enabled?
[12:27] <foobarry> seems a lot *slower* :|
[12:27] <foobarry> to execute code now
[12:33] <diddledan> well surely without optimisations WILL be slower, no?
[12:34] <diddledan> the whole point of optimising things is to make them faster, so without optimisations it'll be defacto slower
[12:54] <foobarry> the opposite happens
[12:54] <foobarry> configure with optimisations, resulting in SLOWER operations
[13:18]  * zmoylan-pi remembers an ancient cpm computer that had a super expensive compiler for basic programs... the only difference between running the code in interpreted and compiled was that you couldn't ctrl-c the exe and look at the code... no optimisation there baby 8-)
[13:20] <zmoylan-pi> when i compiled opl on psions the only noticeable difference was size of the binary was tiny compared to the source code... handy on a device with tiny storage
[13:35] <diddledan> good news everybody: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40481561
[13:37] <zmoylan-pi> i seem to get on fine with 1-2mb broadband, not too fussed
[13:39] <zmoylan-pi> 1-2 times a year i download an iso... and even then i can wait...
[13:42] <zmoylan-pi> but netflix users on the other hand will rejoice... :-)
[18:17] <m0nkey_> You'll hate my super expensive 200mbps then
[18:18]  * zmoylan-pi still has a 9600bps fax modem somewhere...
[18:21]  * brobostigon has one laying in a box behind his desk from 1998.
[18:26] <zmoylan-pi> this one is a portable one so will off a p9 battery for a few hours
[18:27] <brobostigon> handy.
[18:31] <zmoylan-pi> for your hacking the gibson from a beer garden opportunities... :-)
[18:32] <foobarry> starting to wonder if my home IP is blacklisted from iplayer
[18:32] <foobarry> live bbc wimbledon works
[18:34] <brobostigon> zmoylan-pi: :)
[20:04] <CoderEurope> So what does the room think of Pop!_OS ?
[20:07] <zmoylan-pi> i read the description and thought... meh...
[20:09] <foobarry> CoderEurope: bad idea
[20:12] <m0nkey_> Is this just another Ubuntu ISO with a custom desktop theme?
[20:18] <foobarry> for now it seems
[20:19] <foobarry> just seems dumb and fractious while alienating customers
[20:19] <foobarry> but hey
[20:19] <foobarry> i'm not a customer, or even remotely prospective so it doesn't matter to me
[20:20] <zmoylan-pi> i think someone is offering a laptop for sale with it preinstalled so it might appeal to newbies who want to give linux a spin without the horrors of trying to install it themselves...
[20:53] <diddledan> I'm betting it was created to allow them to ship ubuntu without paying for the name
[20:59] <m0nkey_> What have I done? I've booked a flight & hotel and bought a ticket for a BSD conference. Goodbye cruel Linux!
[20:59]  * m0nkey_ quits (Quit: Terminated by an evil penguin)
[21:01]  * zmoylan-pi bets m0nkey_ will return wearing sandles...
[21:01] <m0nkey_> lol
[21:02] <zmoylan-pi> brown sandals with blue socks indicating technical rank and complete lack of taste...
[21:05] <m0nkey_> I'll send Beastie you way
[21:31] <diddledan> m0nkey_: which one?
[21:37] <m0nkey_> All of them
[21:39] <m0nkey_> Or do you mean which conference?
[21:51] <diddledan> which con
[22:00] <m0nkey_> vBSDCon
[22:01] <m0nkey_> http://www.verisign.com/en_US/internet-technology-news/verisign-events/vbsdcon/index.xhtml