[08:35] iplayer works on my near identical work PC ..strange [08:35] morning boys and girls. [10:09] Morning all [10:09] morning [11:42] inkscape is now in the windows 10 appstore?! :-o [11:42] as is krita [11:43] * zmoylan-pi waits till win7 is in the win 10 app store... :-) [11:45] lol [11:45] I can't find opensuse though [11:46] is emacs there? at least a decent os replacement... :-P [11:48] nope [11:48] I can't work emacs, anyway [11:48] well they lost stallman then as a customer... :-D [12:22] fun systemd bug: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237 [12:23] screenie if you don't want to read the whole bug: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DIvxKmFX/ [12:24] basically if your username begins with the number 0 then any services spawned by systemd supposedly for your username get root privs instead [12:26] anyone ever compiled python without optimisations enabled? [12:27] seems a lot *slower* :| [12:27] to execute code now [12:33] well surely without optimisations WILL be slower, no? [12:34] the whole point of optimising things is to make them faster, so without optimisations it'll be defacto slower [12:54] the opposite happens [12:54] configure with optimisations, resulting in SLOWER operations [13:18] * zmoylan-pi remembers an ancient cpm computer that had a super expensive compiler for basic programs... the only difference between running the code in interpreted and compiled was that you couldn't ctrl-c the exe and look at the code... no optimisation there baby 8-) [13:20] when i compiled opl on psions the only noticeable difference was size of the binary was tiny compared to the source code... handy on a device with tiny storage [13:35] good news everybody: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40481561 [13:37] i seem to get on fine with 1-2mb broadband, not too fussed [13:39] 1-2 times a year i download an iso... and even then i can wait... [13:42] but netflix users on the other hand will rejoice... :-) [18:17] You'll hate my super expensive 200mbps then [18:18] * zmoylan-pi still has a 9600bps fax modem somewhere... [18:21] * brobostigon has one laying in a box behind his desk from 1998. [18:26] this one is a portable one so will off a p9 battery for a few hours [18:27] handy. [18:31] for your hacking the gibson from a beer garden opportunities... :-) [18:32] starting to wonder if my home IP is blacklisted from iplayer [18:32] live bbc wimbledon works [18:34] zmoylan-pi: :) [20:04] So what does the room think of Pop!_OS ? [20:07] i read the description and thought... meh... [20:09] CoderEurope: bad idea [20:12] Is this just another Ubuntu ISO with a custom desktop theme? [20:18] for now it seems [20:19] just seems dumb and fractious while alienating customers [20:19] but hey [20:19] i'm not a customer, or even remotely prospective so it doesn't matter to me [20:20] i think someone is offering a laptop for sale with it preinstalled so it might appeal to newbies who want to give linux a spin without the horrors of trying to install it themselves... [20:53] I'm betting it was created to allow them to ship ubuntu without paying for the name [20:59] What have I done? I've booked a flight & hotel and bought a ticket for a BSD conference. Goodbye cruel Linux! [20:59] * m0nkey_ quits (Quit: Terminated by an evil penguin) [21:01] * zmoylan-pi bets m0nkey_ will return wearing sandles... [21:01] lol [21:02] brown sandals with blue socks indicating technical rank and complete lack of taste... [21:05] I'll send Beastie you way [21:31] m0nkey_: which one? [21:37] All of them [21:39] Or do you mean which conference? [21:51] which con [22:00] vBSDCon [22:01] http://www.verisign.com/en_US/internet-technology-news/verisign-events/vbsdcon/index.xhtml