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Bashing-om!backports04:05
ubot5If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging04:05
lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:20
Bashing-omo/ lotuspsychje - Good day for you :)04:23
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om working day here, tnx04:23
lotuspsychjethen 3 days off :p04:23
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Got your replacement all lined out so you can take more time off ?04:25
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: i dont know, my boss text me yesterday with my schedule04:25
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: seems like going afk from the kitchen did a good job..for now04:25
lotuspsychje10 days they couldnt rely on me04:26
Bashing-omHey, you were missed :P04:27
lotuspsychjei hope not :p04:28
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: anything hot to know on support?04:29
Bashing-omNaw .. been slow .. not even the trolls are poking about - to slow to keep my interest from sleep :)04:31
lotuspsychjeallrighty mate, the stars will takeover now04:32
lotuspsychjetomorrow everything will be here04:32
Bashing-omAs the world turns . same place same time next .04:33
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lordievaderGood morning09:08
BluesKajHey folks10:45
lordievaderHey BluesKaj11:46
BluesKajHi lordievader11:46
lordievaderHow are you doing?11:46
BluesKajfine here lordievader, and you?11:47
lordievaderDoing good11:50
lordievaderContemplating a bit if I should buy more ram.11:50
lordievaderDo you happen to know if one can use ECC ram in non-ECC ram slots?11:51
lordievaderGuess, I'll just try.11:52
lordievaderOh, never mind I though the server had DDR3 ECC ram, it has DDR2 :(11:54
BluesKajlordievader, dunno enough about RAM compatabbilities to answer that ...never really researched it11:56
BluesKajI just buy the same type of DDR as the existing one11:57
lordievaderYeah, probably need to buy new. But it would be kind of a waste if I had semi-compatible stuff laying around.11:59
BluesKajtrue12:00
BluesKajbrb12:02
ducasselordievader: afaik you can use non-ecc in ecc-capable slots, but not vice versa. not positive, though - try ##hardware?12:22
lordievaderThe idea is not going to work anyways, I though the unused server had DDR3 in it, after some fact checking it has DDR2.12:23
lordievaderGoing to sell some stuff and see what I can buy for that ;)12:23
oerheksoh?12:24
oerheksany interesting computerparts?12:24
lordievader16Gb DDR3 sodimm is the most interesting.12:24
lordievaderFor the rest old stuff XD12:25
oerheksnice, but sorry, no use for that :-(12:25
lordievaderoerheks: I can send you a link this evening after I've posted it on Marktplaats.12:25
oerheksI should move from mobo pcie 1.4 to pcie 2.012:25
oerhekswhich means i should build a new pc12:26
oerhekslordievader, yes, please do12:26
oerheksone never knows how i find a buyer, it happens often12:26
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lotus|artfulboxhey guys17:04
lotus|artfulboxlets update this testbox17:04
daftykins:D17:04
lotus|artfulboxdaftykins, hey mate, been to london and had fudge icecream :p17:05
daftykinsooh nice! :D17:05
daftykinsglad to see you made it out unscathed17:06
lotus|artfulboxwhat a nice city it has become london17:06
daftykinsmy wealthy client bought a flat there so i'll be able to visit again :>17:07
lotus|artfulboxdaftykins, our guide said some london lofts ask 5000 pounds/ a week rent17:07
lotus|artfulboxoO17:07
daftykinsheh oof17:07
* lotus|artfulbox looks in his pockets : O17:07
daftykinshis last place had 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms a lounge and balcony - and was sold for £2 million17:08
lotus|artfulboxholy smoke17:08
daftykinsi think the ongoing service charge was about £20k a year too17:08
lotus|artfulboxthe cars driving around, are crazy aswell17:09
lotus|artfulboxporshes, mercedes and thousands of those hybrid toyota's17:09
daftykinshehe17:09
oerheks:-)17:09
oerheksAnd, meet & greet with Mark ??17:10
daftykinssomeone i was at Uni with told me that there's a thing of people with fancy cars leaving clubs just before closing time and then doing laps to show them off to everyone leaving, so sad17:10
lotus|artfulboxbut some eco appartments give like electric cars & bikes for free too17:10
lotus|artfulboxoerheks, mark lives in london?17:10
oerhekserr, you didn't visit blue fin building??17:10
lotus|artfulboxnop lol17:11
oerheksThat is canonical headQ17:11
lotus|artfulboxohh17:11
lotus|artfulboxlotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ uname -a17:12
lotus|artfulboxLinux artful-bugbox 4.10.0-22-generic #24-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 22 17:43:20 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:12
lotus|artfulboxbrb reboot after update17:12
ducasse\o lotus|artfulbox :)17:15
lotus|artfulboxhey ducasse17:15
lotus|artfulboxhow are you mate17:16
ducassegood, and you?17:16
lotus|artfulboxgreat here17:16
lotus|artfulboxducasse, testing artful17:18
daftykinshe *is* the artful dodger ;)17:18
lotus|artfulbox:p17:18
lotus|artfulboxdist-upgrade now17:19
ducasseartful sees a lot of action, i frequently see 30-50 updates some days17:20
daftykinswhy now and not before? i only ever run dist-upgrade17:20
lotus|artfulboxdidnt login to gnome wayland yet17:20
ducasseithm 'i am running dist-upgrade now'17:21
daftykinsyeah above was a reboot after an update though17:22
lotus|artfulboxyeah first sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade17:22
lotus|artfulboxshould have done dist-upgrade right away17:22
daftykinsyeah :>17:23
lotus|artfulboxducasse, seems like they working hard on it17:25
ducasseit might need a lot of tlc, considering how zesty was on release ;)17:27
lotus|artfulbox!info linux-image-generic artful17:27
ubot5linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.0.26.28 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB17:27
lotus|artfulboxreboot (again)17:31
ducassesuccess! \o/17:33
lotus|artfulboxlol17:34
lotus|artfulboxit works17:34
lotus|artfulboxhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-developers-shares-his-thoughts-on-the-unity-to-gnome-shell-transition-516798.shtml17:43
lotus|artfulboxswitching apps in gnome is anoying you have to keep press activities17:43
xanguaI just press alt+tab17:50
lotus|artfulboxah thats handy17:51
xanguaDoes super+(number) work in gnome shell?17:51
lotus|artfulboxlets c17:51
lotus|artfulboxdoesnt seem to do something xangua17:52
lotus|artfulboxaddons are in gnome software17:59
lotus|artfulboxand extensions, codecs17:59
lotus|artfulboxhey BluesKaj18:00
immulotus|artfulbox, you should look into extensions18:01
immuhey BluesKaj18:02
lotus|artfulboximmu, i wanna keep it vanilla, so i can follow canonicals new improvements on 17.1018:02
immuok lotus|artfulbox18:03
lotus|artfulboxlets see what happens on gnome wayland18:05
daftykins*boom*18:06
daftykinsmushroom cloud reported over Belgium18:06
oerheksWhy didn't you stop him?18:06
immufotos please18:06
daftykinsphotos18:07
oerheksupdated every 5 minutes http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?lang=18:07
oerheksgnome18:08
lotus|artfulbox:p18:08
oerhekshttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/make-gnome-shell-look-feel-like-unity18:09
daftykins../be-an-old-codger-and-fight-change/18:10
daftykins:D18:11
oerheksChange the button-layout to the following custom value: close,maximize,minimize,maximize,close:18:11
lotus|artfulboxlotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ inxi -G18:11
lotus|artfulboxGraphics:  Card: NVIDIA C77 [GeForce 9100M G]18:11
lotus|artfulbox           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)18:11
lotus|artfulbox           Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz18:11
lotus|artfulbox           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVAA GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.1.218:11
daftykinshmm not heard of inxi before18:15
lotus|artfulboxdont notice much change on different logins18:19
BluesKajhi lotus|artfulbox, immu , was fixing the wifi on the RPI after upgrading to Raspbian Stretch18:20
lotus|artfulboxcool18:21
BluesKajhad to install theold bcm driver from the jessie repos and mark it on hold so it won't upgrade18:22
BluesKajworkarounds ;-)18:23
immuok18:23
daftykinsheh18:28
lotus|artfulboxlets c if it likes nvidia-340 driver18:29
daftykinsheh not much benefit going too new for such a dinosaur (:18:29
lotus|artfulboxits a laptop that came from the graveyard junk lol18:30
lotus|artfulboxcontainer garbage park18:30
lotus|artfulboxthe trowed it away working like this18:31
lotus|artfulboxand you know what i do with working hardware, put ubuntu on it!18:31
lotus|artfulbox:p18:31
xanguaWhich flavor?18:34
daftykinsyep where it's still useless ;)18:36
lotuspsychje_it doesnt like 34018:47
lotuspsychje_and mesa has some heavy glitches18:47
lotuspsychje_had to purge nvidia* in recoverymode18:48
lotuspsychje_big nvidia logo before login, then black screen18:48
daftykinshehe18:48
BluesKajlotuspsychje_, iof it's rwally old maybe the 304 XXX legacy driver will work18:49
BluesKajif it's really old, rather18:49
lotuspsychje_lotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ inxi -G18:49
lotuspsychje_Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA C77 [GeForce 9100M G]18:49
daftykinsprobably better off staying on nouveau for such a museum piece18:50
lotuspsychje_lol18:50
daftykins:>18:50
lotuspsychje_yeah im sticking to it18:50
immuhmm18:51
lotuspsychje_lets see what new updates will do to the machine on wayland18:51
BluesKajlotuspsychje_, yeah, seems the 340 is the driver for your gpu , ...nomodeset perhaps?18:54
lotuspsychje_BluesKaj, well it works kinda without the nvidia driver18:55
daftykinsnowt to be gained :>18:55
BluesKajit's not  museum piece. mine is geforce 210 which uses the same driver ...just entry level specs that's all, and classed as legacy but it works fine18:55
BluesKajlotuspsychje_, there's no nvidia support for wayland ...yet18:56
lotuspsychje_ Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)18:56
lotuspsychje_gnome default doesnt goto wyland i think18:57
lotuspsychje_i have to logout18:57
lotuspsychje_but i dont think its working yet indeed18:57
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lotuspsychje_time for a glitches bug on xorg19:02
lotuspsychje_:p19:02
daftykinsyou can't log out? :D19:02
lotuspsychje_daftykins, yeah sure, logout/login doesnt fix the glitches by default19:04
daftykinsah no i was thinking you meant you couldn't log out at all19:04
lotuspsychje_daftykins, no boot, restart and logins work fine (after purging 340)19:07
daftykinsah19:07
lotuspsychje_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/170234719:08
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1702347 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Graphical glitches in screen by default" [Undecided,New]19:08
daftykinsoh look down the list sir, you couldn't even load 'nvidia' allegedly19:09
daftykinsunless that was unrelated, would've thought for you to see the nvidia logo it was there19:09
lotuspsychje_logo showedup before login, after installng 34019:11
daftykinsyeah that was an old default of the nvidia driver19:12
daftykinsso it kinda suggests the module was there, but your logs show it's missing on two lines o019:13
lotuspsychje_hm19:13
daftykinswonder if it's that age-old classic of it building for the wrong kernel version :)19:13
lotuspsychje_cant catch the glitches by screenshot19:16
lotuspsychje_too fast19:16
daftykinsvideo :D19:16
lotuspsychje_thats an idea :p19:16
lotuspsychje_ubuntu-bug was pretty nice tough19:19
lotuspsychje_tnx for testing 17.10..19:19
daftykinsXD19:21
lotuspsychje_laterz guys tv :p19:21
lotuspsychje_enough bugging for today19:22

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