[04:05] !backports [04:05] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [04:20] good morning to all [04:23] o/ lotuspsychje - Good day for you :) [04:23] hey Bashing-om working day here, tnx [04:23] then 3 days off :p [04:25] lotuspsychje: Got your replacement all lined out so you can take more time off ? [04:25] Bashing-om: i dont know, my boss text me yesterday with my schedule [04:25] Bashing-om: seems like going afk from the kitchen did a good job..for now [04:26] 10 days they couldnt rely on me [04:27] Hey, you were missed :P [04:28] i hope not :p [04:29] Bashing-om: anything hot to know on support? [04:31] Naw .. been slow .. not even the trolls are poking about - to slow to keep my interest from sleep :) [04:32] allrighty mate, the stars will takeover now [04:32] tomorrow everything will be here [04:33] As the world turns . same place same time next . === Guest12038 is now known as lordievader [09:08] Good morning [10:45] Hey folks [11:46] Hey BluesKaj [11:46] Hi lordievader [11:46] How are you doing? [11:47] fine here lordievader, and you? [11:50] Doing good [11:50] Contemplating a bit if I should buy more ram. [11:51] Do you happen to know if one can use ECC ram in non-ECC ram slots? [11:52] Guess, I'll just try. [11:54] Oh, never mind I though the server had DDR3 ECC ram, it has DDR2 :( [11:56] lordievader, dunno enough about RAM compatabbilities to answer that ...never really researched it [11:57] I just buy the same type of DDR as the existing one [11:59] Yeah, probably need to buy new. But it would be kind of a waste if I had semi-compatible stuff laying around. [12:00] true [12:02] brb [12:22] lordievader: afaik you can use non-ecc in ecc-capable slots, but not vice versa. not positive, though - try ##hardware? [12:23] The idea is not going to work anyways, I though the unused server had DDR3 in it, after some fact checking it has DDR2. [12:23] Going to sell some stuff and see what I can buy for that ;) [12:24] oh? [12:24] any interesting computerparts? [12:24] 16Gb DDR3 sodimm is the most interesting. [12:25] For the rest old stuff XD [12:25] nice, but sorry, no use for that :-( [12:25] oerheks: I can send you a link this evening after I've posted it on Marktplaats. [12:25] I should move from mobo pcie 1.4 to pcie 2.0 [12:26] which means i should build a new pc [12:26] lordievader, yes, please do [12:26] one never knows how i find a buyer, it happens often === lordievader is now known as Guest67334 === enick_211 is now known as lordievader === lordievader is now known as Guest43014 === Guest43014 is now known as lordievader [17:04] hey guys [17:04] lets update this testbox [17:04] :D [17:05] daftykins, hey mate, been to london and had fudge icecream :p [17:05] ooh nice! :D [17:06] glad to see you made it out unscathed [17:06] what a nice city it has become london [17:07] my wealthy client bought a flat there so i'll be able to visit again :> [17:07] daftykins, our guide said some london lofts ask 5000 pounds/ a week rent [17:07] oO [17:07] heh oof [17:07] * lotus|artfulbox looks in his pockets : O [17:08] his last place had 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms a lounge and balcony - and was sold for £2 million [17:08] holy smoke [17:08] i think the ongoing service charge was about £20k a year too [17:09] the cars driving around, are crazy aswell [17:09] porshes, mercedes and thousands of those hybrid toyota's [17:09] hehe [17:09] :-) [17:10] And, meet & greet with Mark ?? [17:10] someone i was at Uni with told me that there's a thing of people with fancy cars leaving clubs just before closing time and then doing laps to show them off to everyone leaving, so sad [17:10] but some eco appartments give like electric cars & bikes for free too [17:10] oerheks, mark lives in london? [17:10] err, you didn't visit blue fin building?? [17:11] nop lol [17:11] That is canonical headQ [17:11] ohh [17:12] lotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ uname -a [17:12] Linux artful-bugbox 4.10.0-22-generic #24-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 22 17:43:20 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [17:12] brb reboot after update [17:15] \o lotus|artfulbox :) [17:15] hey ducasse [17:16] how are you mate [17:16] good, and you? [17:16] great here [17:18] ducasse, testing artful [17:18] he *is* the artful dodger ;) [17:18] :p [17:19] dist-upgrade now [17:20] artful sees a lot of action, i frequently see 30-50 updates some days [17:20] why now and not before? i only ever run dist-upgrade [17:20] didnt login to gnome wayland yet [17:21] ithm 'i am running dist-upgrade now' [17:22] yeah above was a reboot after an update though [17:22] yeah first sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade [17:22] should have done dist-upgrade right away [17:23] yeah :> [17:25] ducasse, seems like they working hard on it [17:27] it might need a lot of tlc, considering how zesty was on release ;) [17:27] !info linux-image-generic artful [17:27] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.0.26.28 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB [17:31] reboot (again) [17:33] success! \o/ [17:34] lol [17:34] it works [17:43] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-developers-shares-his-thoughts-on-the-unity-to-gnome-shell-transition-516798.shtml [17:43] switching apps in gnome is anoying you have to keep press activities [17:50] I just press alt+tab [17:51] ah thats handy [17:51] Does super+(number) work in gnome shell? [17:51] lets c [17:52] doesnt seem to do something xangua [17:59] addons are in gnome software [17:59] and extensions, codecs [18:00] hey BluesKaj [18:01] lotus|artfulbox, you should look into extensions [18:02] hey BluesKaj [18:02] immu, i wanna keep it vanilla, so i can follow canonicals new improvements on 17.10 [18:03] ok lotus|artfulbox [18:05] lets see what happens on gnome wayland [18:06] *boom* [18:06] mushroom cloud reported over Belgium [18:06] Why didn't you stop him? [18:06] fotos please [18:07] photos [18:07] updated every 5 minutes http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?lang= [18:08] gnome [18:08] :p [18:09] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/make-gnome-shell-look-feel-like-unity [18:10] ../be-an-old-codger-and-fight-change/ [18:11] :D [18:11] Change the button-layout to the following custom value: close,maximize,minimize,maximize,close: [18:11] lotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ inxi -G [18:11] Graphics: Card: NVIDIA C77 [GeForce 9100M G] [18:11] Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa) [18:11] Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz [18:11] GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVAA GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.1.2 [18:15] hmm not heard of inxi before [18:19] dont notice much change on different logins [18:20] hi lotus|artfulbox, immu , was fixing the wifi on the RPI after upgrading to Raspbian Stretch [18:21] cool [18:22] had to install theold bcm driver from the jessie repos and mark it on hold so it won't upgrade [18:23] workarounds ;-) [18:23] ok [18:28] heh [18:29] lets c if it likes nvidia-340 driver [18:29] heh not much benefit going too new for such a dinosaur (: [18:30] its a laptop that came from the graveyard junk lol [18:30] container garbage park [18:31] the trowed it away working like this [18:31] and you know what i do with working hardware, put ubuntu on it! [18:31] :p [18:34] Which flavor? [18:36] yep where it's still useless ;) [18:47] it doesnt like 340 [18:47] and mesa has some heavy glitches [18:48] had to purge nvidia* in recoverymode [18:48] big nvidia logo before login, then black screen [18:48] hehe [18:49] lotuspsychje_, iof it's rwally old maybe the 304 XXX legacy driver will work [18:49] if it's really old, rather [18:49] lotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ inxi -G [18:49] Graphics: Card: NVIDIA C77 [GeForce 9100M G] [18:50] probably better off staying on nouveau for such a museum piece [18:50] lol [18:50] :> [18:50] yeah im sticking to it [18:51] hmm [18:51] lets see what new updates will do to the machine on wayland [18:54] lotuspsychje_, yeah, seems the 340 is the driver for your gpu , ...nomodeset perhaps? [18:55] BluesKaj, well it works kinda without the nvidia driver [18:55] nowt to be gained :> [18:55] it's not museum piece. mine is geforce 210 which uses the same driver ...just entry level specs that's all, and classed as legacy but it works fine [18:56] lotuspsychje_, there's no nvidia support for wayland ...yet [18:56] Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa) [18:57] gnome default doesnt goto wyland i think [18:57] i have to logout [18:57] but i dont think its working yet indeed === S is now known as Guest84609 [19:02] time for a glitches bug on xorg [19:02] :p [19:02] you can't log out? :D [19:04] daftykins, yeah sure, logout/login doesnt fix the glitches by default [19:04] ah no i was thinking you meant you couldn't log out at all [19:07] daftykins, no boot, restart and logins work fine (after purging 340) [19:07] ah [19:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1702347 [19:08] Ubuntu bug 1702347 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Graphical glitches in screen by default" [Undecided,New] [19:09] oh look down the list sir, you couldn't even load 'nvidia' allegedly [19:09] unless that was unrelated, would've thought for you to see the nvidia logo it was there [19:11] logo showedup before login, after installng 340 [19:12] yeah that was an old default of the nvidia driver [19:13] so it kinda suggests the module was there, but your logs show it's missing on two lines o0 [19:13] hm [19:13] wonder if it's that age-old classic of it building for the wrong kernel version :) [19:16] cant catch the glitches by screenshot [19:16] too fast [19:16] video :D [19:16] thats an idea :p [19:19] ubuntu-bug was pretty nice tough [19:19] tnx for testing 17.10.. [19:21] XD [19:21] laterz guys tv :p [19:22] enough bugging for today