[04:05] <Bashing-om> !backports
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:23] <Bashing-om> o/ lotuspsychje - Good day for you :)
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om working day here, tnx
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> then 3 days off :p
[04:25] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Got your replacement all lined out so you can take more time off ?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: i dont know, my boss text me yesterday with my schedule
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: seems like going afk from the kitchen did a good job..for now
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> 10 days they couldnt rely on me
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Hey, you were missed :P
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> i hope not :p
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: anything hot to know on support?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> Naw .. been slow .. not even the trolls are poking about - to slow to keep my interest from sleep :)
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> allrighty mate, the stars will takeover now
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> tomorrow everything will be here
[04:33] <Bashing-om> As the world turns . same place same time next .
[09:08] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:46] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader
[11:46] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[11:47] <BluesKaj> fine here lordievader, and you?
[11:50] <lordievader> Doing good
[11:50] <lordievader> Contemplating a bit if I should buy more ram.
[11:51] <lordievader> Do you happen to know if one can use ECC ram in non-ECC ram slots?
[11:52] <lordievader> Guess, I'll just try.
[11:54] <lordievader> Oh, never mind I though the server had DDR3 ECC ram, it has DDR2 :(
[11:56] <BluesKaj> lordievader, dunno enough about RAM compatabbilities to answer that ...never really researched it
[11:57] <BluesKaj> I just buy the same type of DDR as the existing one
[11:59] <lordievader> Yeah, probably need to buy new. But it would be kind of a waste if I had semi-compatible stuff laying around.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> true
[12:02] <BluesKaj> brb
[12:22] <ducasse> lordievader: afaik you can use non-ecc in ecc-capable slots, but not vice versa. not positive, though - try ##hardware?
[12:23] <lordievader> The idea is not going to work anyways, I though the unused server had DDR3 in it, after some fact checking it has DDR2.
[12:23] <lordievader> Going to sell some stuff and see what I can buy for that ;)
[12:24] <oerheks> oh?
[12:24] <oerheks> any interesting computerparts?
[12:24] <lordievader> 16Gb DDR3 sodimm is the most interesting.
[12:25] <lordievader> For the rest old stuff XD
[12:25] <oerheks> nice, but sorry, no use for that :-(
[12:25] <lordievader> oerheks: I can send you a link this evening after I've posted it on Marktplaats.
[12:25] <oerheks> I should move from mobo pcie 1.4 to pcie 2.0
[12:26] <oerheks> which means i should build a new pc
[12:26] <oerheks> lordievader, yes, please do
[12:26] <oerheks> one never knows how i find a buyer, it happens often
[17:04] <lotus|artfulbox> hey guys
[17:04] <lotus|artfulbox> lets update this testbox
[17:04] <daftykins> :D
[17:05] <lotus|artfulbox> daftykins, hey mate, been to london and had fudge icecream :p
[17:05] <daftykins> ooh nice! :D
[17:06] <daftykins> glad to see you made it out unscathed
[17:06] <lotus|artfulbox> what a nice city it has become london
[17:07] <daftykins> my wealthy client bought a flat there so i'll be able to visit again :>
[17:07] <lotus|artfulbox> daftykins, our guide said some london lofts ask 5000 pounds/ a week rent
[17:07] <lotus|artfulbox> oO
[17:07] <daftykins> heh oof
[17:07]  * lotus|artfulbox looks in his pockets : O
[17:08] <daftykins> his last place had 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms a lounge and balcony - and was sold for £2 million
[17:08] <lotus|artfulbox> holy smoke
[17:08] <daftykins> i think the ongoing service charge was about £20k a year too
[17:09] <lotus|artfulbox> the cars driving around, are crazy aswell
[17:09] <lotus|artfulbox> porshes, mercedes and thousands of those hybrid toyota's
[17:09] <daftykins> hehe
[17:09] <oerheks> :-)
[17:10] <oerheks> And, meet & greet with Mark ??
[17:10] <daftykins> someone i was at Uni with told me that there's a thing of people with fancy cars leaving clubs just before closing time and then doing laps to show them off to everyone leaving, so sad
[17:10] <lotus|artfulbox> but some eco appartments give like electric cars & bikes for free too
[17:10] <lotus|artfulbox> oerheks, mark lives in london?
[17:10] <oerheks> err, you didn't visit blue fin building??
[17:11] <lotus|artfulbox> nop lol
[17:11] <oerheks> That is canonical headQ
[17:11] <lotus|artfulbox> ohh
[17:12] <lotus|artfulbox> lotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ uname -a
[17:12] <lotus|artfulbox> Linux artful-bugbox 4.10.0-22-generic #24-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 22 17:43:20 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:12] <lotus|artfulbox> brb reboot after update
[17:15] <ducasse> \o lotus|artfulbox :)
[17:15] <lotus|artfulbox> hey ducasse
[17:16] <lotus|artfulbox> how are you mate
[17:16] <ducasse> good, and you?
[17:16] <lotus|artfulbox> great here
[17:18] <lotus|artfulbox> ducasse, testing artful
[17:18] <daftykins> he *is* the artful dodger ;)
[17:18] <lotus|artfulbox> :p
[17:19] <lotus|artfulbox> dist-upgrade now
[17:20] <ducasse> artful sees a lot of action, i frequently see 30-50 updates some days
[17:20] <daftykins> why now and not before? i only ever run dist-upgrade
[17:20] <lotus|artfulbox> didnt login to gnome wayland yet
[17:21] <ducasse> ithm 'i am running dist-upgrade now'
[17:22] <daftykins> yeah above was a reboot after an update though
[17:22] <lotus|artfulbox> yeah first sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[17:22] <lotus|artfulbox> should have done dist-upgrade right away
[17:23] <daftykins> yeah :>
[17:25] <lotus|artfulbox> ducasse, seems like they working hard on it
[17:27] <ducasse> it might need a lot of tlc, considering how zesty was on release ;)
[17:27] <lotus|artfulbox> !info linux-image-generic artful
[17:31] <lotus|artfulbox> reboot (again)
[17:33] <ducasse> success! \o/
[17:34] <lotus|artfulbox> lol
[17:34] <lotus|artfulbox> it works
[17:43] <lotus|artfulbox> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-developers-shares-his-thoughts-on-the-unity-to-gnome-shell-transition-516798.shtml
[17:43] <lotus|artfulbox> switching apps in gnome is anoying you have to keep press activities
[17:50] <xangua> I just press alt+tab
[17:51] <lotus|artfulbox> ah thats handy
[17:51] <xangua> Does super+(number) work in gnome shell?
[17:51] <lotus|artfulbox> lets c
[17:52] <lotus|artfulbox> doesnt seem to do something xangua
[17:59] <lotus|artfulbox> addons are in gnome software
[17:59] <lotus|artfulbox> and extensions, codecs
[18:00] <lotus|artfulbox> hey BluesKaj
[18:01] <immu> lotus|artfulbox, you should look into extensions
[18:02] <immu> hey BluesKaj
[18:02] <lotus|artfulbox> immu, i wanna keep it vanilla, so i can follow canonicals new improvements on 17.10
[18:03] <immu> ok lotus|artfulbox
[18:05] <lotus|artfulbox> lets see what happens on gnome wayland
[18:06] <daftykins> *boom*
[18:06] <daftykins> mushroom cloud reported over Belgium
[18:06] <oerheks> Why didn't you stop him?
[18:06] <immu> fotos please
[18:07] <daftykins> photos
[18:07] <oerheks> updated every 5 minutes http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?lang=
[18:08] <oerheks> gnome
[18:08] <lotus|artfulbox> :p
[18:09] <oerheks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/make-gnome-shell-look-feel-like-unity
[18:10] <daftykins> ../be-an-old-codger-and-fight-change/
[18:11] <daftykins> :D
[18:11] <oerheks> Change the button-layout to the following custom value: close,maximize,minimize,maximize,close:
[18:11] <lotus|artfulbox> lotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ inxi -G
[18:11] <lotus|artfulbox> Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA C77 [GeForce 9100M G]
[18:11] <lotus|artfulbox>            Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
[18:11] <lotus|artfulbox>            Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
[18:11] <lotus|artfulbox>            GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVAA GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.1.2
[18:15] <daftykins> hmm not heard of inxi before
[18:19] <lotus|artfulbox> dont notice much change on different logins
[18:20] <BluesKaj> hi lotus|artfulbox, immu , was fixing the wifi on the RPI after upgrading to Raspbian Stretch
[18:21] <lotus|artfulbox> cool
[18:22] <BluesKaj> had to install theold bcm driver from the jessie repos and mark it on hold so it won't upgrade
[18:23] <BluesKaj> workarounds ;-)
[18:23] <immu> ok
[18:28] <daftykins> heh
[18:29] <lotus|artfulbox> lets c if it likes nvidia-340 driver
[18:29] <daftykins> heh not much benefit going too new for such a dinosaur (:
[18:30] <lotus|artfulbox> its a laptop that came from the graveyard junk lol
[18:30] <lotus|artfulbox> container garbage park
[18:31] <lotus|artfulbox> the trowed it away working like this
[18:31] <lotus|artfulbox> and you know what i do with working hardware, put ubuntu on it!
[18:31] <lotus|artfulbox> :p
[18:34] <xangua> Which flavor?
[18:36] <daftykins> yep where it's still useless ;)
[18:47] <lotuspsychje_> it doesnt like 340
[18:47] <lotuspsychje_> and mesa has some heavy glitches
[18:48] <lotuspsychje_> had to purge nvidia* in recoverymode
[18:48] <lotuspsychje_> big nvidia logo before login, then black screen
[18:48] <daftykins> hehe
[18:49] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje_, iof it's rwally old maybe the 304 XXX legacy driver will work
[18:49] <BluesKaj> if it's really old, rather
[18:49] <lotuspsychje_> lotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ inxi -G
[18:49] <lotuspsychje_> Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA C77 [GeForce 9100M G]
[18:50] <daftykins> probably better off staying on nouveau for such a museum piece
[18:50] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[18:50] <daftykins> :>
[18:50] <lotuspsychje_> yeah im sticking to it
[18:51] <immu> hmm
[18:51] <lotuspsychje_> lets see what new updates will do to the machine on wayland
[18:54] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje_, yeah, seems the 340 is the driver for your gpu , ...nomodeset perhaps?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje_> BluesKaj, well it works kinda without the nvidia driver
[18:55] <daftykins> nowt to be gained :>
[18:55] <BluesKaj> it's not  museum piece. mine is geforce 210 which uses the same driver ...just entry level specs that's all, and classed as legacy but it works fine
[18:56] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje_, there's no nvidia support for wayland ...yet
[18:56] <lotuspsychje_>  Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
[18:57] <lotuspsychje_> gnome default doesnt goto wyland i think
[18:57] <lotuspsychje_> i have to logout
[18:57] <lotuspsychje_> but i dont think its working yet indeed
[19:02] <lotuspsychje_> time for a glitches bug on xorg
[19:02] <lotuspsychje_> :p
[19:02] <daftykins> you can't log out? :D
[19:04] <lotuspsychje_> daftykins, yeah sure, logout/login doesnt fix the glitches by default
[19:04] <daftykins> ah no i was thinking you meant you couldn't log out at all
[19:07] <lotuspsychje_> daftykins, no boot, restart and logins work fine (after purging 340)
[19:07] <daftykins> ah
[19:08] <lotuspsychje_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1702347
[19:09] <daftykins> oh look down the list sir, you couldn't even load 'nvidia' allegedly
[19:09] <daftykins> unless that was unrelated, would've thought for you to see the nvidia logo it was there
[19:11] <lotuspsychje_> logo showedup before login, after installng 340
[19:12] <daftykins> yeah that was an old default of the nvidia driver
[19:13] <daftykins> so it kinda suggests the module was there, but your logs show it's missing on two lines o0
[19:13] <lotuspsychje_> hm
[19:13] <daftykins> wonder if it's that age-old classic of it building for the wrong kernel version :)
[19:16] <lotuspsychje_> cant catch the glitches by screenshot
[19:16] <lotuspsychje_> too fast
[19:16] <daftykins> video :D
[19:16] <lotuspsychje_> thats an idea :p
[19:19] <lotuspsychje_> ubuntu-bug was pretty nice tough
[19:19] <lotuspsychje_> tnx for testing 17.10..
[19:21] <daftykins> XD
[19:21] <lotuspsychje_> laterz guys tv :p
[19:22] <lotuspsychje_> enough bugging for today