| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:27 |
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| * SuperEngineer won't be around for a wee while. He diappears tomorrow morning for a trip to British Royal Infirmary. If op survived, will be back soonish. If mot, see y'all on the other side. soon. if not | 11:51 | |
| SuperEngineer | [I told my own planets leaders that forcing one of us into an Earth body wasn't going to work. Did they believe me? Nah! | 11:53 |
| brobostigon | good luck, :), may the penguin gods be with you, | 11:56 |
| SuperEngineer | ;-) | 12:00 |
| brobostigon | :) | 12:00 |
| diddledan | these corporeal vessels are too fragile | 12:33 |
| diddledan | SuperEngineer: you need an upgrade | 12:33 |
| diddledan | http://pa1.narvii.com/6395/c93ce5526bc3dd020b363cd6a259a5052546165b_hq.gif | 12:34 |
| brobostigon | :) | 12:40 |
| Duncan_ | edge | 13:02 |
| SuperEngineer | diddledan: upgrade was already tried.... failed, even after reboot | 13:03 |
| diddledan | dang | 13:03 |
| brobostigon | anyone recognise the following error, please, https://pastebin.com/P8hdiaBF | 13:48 |
| diddledan | norks :-( https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/04/world/asia/north-korea-missile-test-icbm.html | 16:05 |
| daftykins | amazing Team America haven't stepped up yet | 16:06 |
| * diddledan sings the themetune | 16:06 | |
| diddledan | UH MERRICA. DUCK YEAH! | 16:06 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 16:07 |
| daftykins | pretty blown away by this, i called up the telco about fixing the mounting of that ancient box of phone lines on the front of my house | 16:07 |
| daftykins | couple of guys came out the same day, and now want to dig up the road and lay fresh copper entirely | 16:08 |
| diddledan | wat | 16:08 |
| diddledan | that's a bit of overkill for a box dangling off the wall. although new copper will probably mean better speed of broadband sync | 16:08 |
| daftykins | yeah might be, doubt i'll see too much more - think i'm already 700m away they say so my line stats are about 55/25 | 16:09 |
| daftykins | 60/10 is the service i pay for though | 16:09 |
| diddledan | aah | 16:09 |
| diddledan | fairly close to spec then | 16:09 |
| daftykins | what's weird is when i was on 40/5, i could use the upnpc package to query the old router that was using ATM, which showed me sync of 52 and 25 | 16:10 |
| daftykins | yet when i moved to the 60/10 service it kept creeping up and eventually claimed 58Mb | 16:10 |
| arsenip | hoe hum, looks like openvz (in proxmox 3.x) doesn't support modern systemd = time to queue up a vmhost rebuild. | 16:11 |
| daftykins | you could tell it couldn't handle it though, downloads would mostly try to ramp up TCP sliding window style to ~5.7MB/sec then drop back off again repeatedly | 16:11 |
| arsenip | thus arsen can't have any modern centos7/ubuntu containers :( | 16:11 |
| daftykins | aww | 16:11 |
| daftykins | but arsensen likes new things! | 16:11 |
| diddledan | see, I can't read arsenip as arsen ip. I always see it as arse nip | 16:12 |
| arsenip | to be fair - on my personal box i want UBER_LTS stability, so i dont have to rebuild stuff very often. | 16:12 |
| arsenip | it's arsen, which was transformed to parsenip for jokes, then dropped the -p | 16:12 |
| arsenip | and someone owns 'arsen' on freenode :) | 16:13 |
| * diddledan nips arsenip 's arse | 16:13 | |
| daftykins | d'aww | 16:13 |
| arsenip | anyway. cue 3 hours rebuilding VMs pointlessly, giving up and reverting to centos6 (final) | 16:16 |
| daftykins | anyone struggle with clients that needlessly keep a billion browser tabs open? :) | 16:16 |
| arsenip | maybe i should just rent another VPS and build in parallel, and flip DNS, like i would with any real production system. | 16:16 |
| diddledan | esxi | 16:16 |
| arsenip | yeah i was considering it, diddledan | 16:17 |
| arsenip | proxmox is like... crap. | 16:17 |
| daftykins | that's what i do with my domestic VMs too, only swap DNS for port forwards to IPs :> | 16:17 |
| diddledan | I'm running an esxi here in my living room - means I keep my toes toasty :-0p | 16:17 |
| diddledan | :-p | 16:17 |
| arsenip | ive got an initscript for natting my vz containers | 16:18 |
| diddledan | I really should move it into my back room | 16:18 |
| daftykins | diddledan: did y'see the super cheap 10GigE cards that've appeared? | 16:18 |
| diddledan | daftykins: no? | 16:18 |
| arsenip | oddly i have no server at home at all anymore - probably the closest thing is my crappy raspberry pi. | 16:18 |
| diddledan | show me! | 16:18 |
| daftykins | if it weren't for the switch element still, it's becoming more sane | 16:18 |
| arsenip | if you want a 10gig card just let me know :p | 16:18 |
| daftykins | or more feasible i should say | 16:18 |
| daftykins | arsenip: o rly | 16:18 |
| daftykins | would it be some crazy power hungry thing though? :P | 16:19 |
| arsenip | yes likely. | 16:19 |
| arsenip | :D | 16:19 |
| daftykins | XD | 16:19 |
| arsenip | and SFP too | 16:19 |
| daftykins | http://www.anandtech.com/show/11598/asus-launches-xgc100c-10-gbe-adapter-aquantia-aqc107-99 | 16:19 |
| arsenip | but im sure i could find spares. | 16:19 |
| diddledan | I got an intel X520 for ~£50 | 16:20 |
| diddledan | ebay ftw | 16:20 |
| daftykins | be interesting to see how power consumption compares | 16:20 |
| arsenip | *apparently* virgin have 'gifted' me 300mb at home | 16:20 |
| arsenip | so i may now get 100mb, i guess. | 16:20 |
| daftykins | o0 not getting what they claim, huh? | 16:21 |
| arsenip | indeed. super high usage in my area | 16:21 |
| daftykins | arsenip: wealthy client fella has just bought a place in Brompton Park Crescent, where Hyperoptic appear to be installing :D | 16:21 |
| arsenip | massively oversubscribed - i *think* the 300meg upgrades mean they upgraded the backhaul so should be better overall (and faster) | 16:21 |
| daftykins | not far from that fancy pad he had last time | 16:21 |
| arsenip | ah i know where that is | 16:22 |
| arsenip | just behind farm lane, nice restaurant there | 16:22 |
| arsenip | or was, when i went there last | 16:22 |
| arsenip | 5 years ago :D | 16:22 |
| daftykins | we shall have to have a fine meal when i make it over next, then | 16:22 |
| daftykins | although he's gonna gut it as usual from October afaik | 16:22 |
| daftykins | seems to hate walls when he buys places ;) | 16:22 |
| arsenip | i wonder if a modern raspberry pi with two USB 2.5" hdds would make a nice backup solution. | 16:23 |
| daftykins | no. | 16:23 |
| daftykins | they suck for IO :) | 16:24 |
| arsenip | nightly remote backups tho - nps | 16:24 |
| daftykins | although after an initial copy i suppose not too bad | 16:24 |
| daftykins | but if you rsync'd, haha | 16:24 |
| arsenip | wana somehow mirror them, but probably not raid | 16:24 |
| arsenip | basically generate two @home copies of my remote server data | 16:24 |
| daftykins | think you'd be better off buying a Synology DS216j | 16:24 |
| arsenip | i like the idea of unplugging a usb drive and whacking it in my bag - then having all of my data | 16:25 |
| daftykins | they double as VPN endpoints for office shared resource access for some of my clients \o/ | 16:25 |
| arsenip | tbh with a couple of massive drives i could be much lazier about backups - just do entire disk rsyncs :D | 16:29 |
| Azelphur | well this is fun | 17:10 |
| daftykins | what've you broken today? :) | 17:12 |
| Azelphur | I had a good credit rating, I applied for a joint bank account with my gf, and an account for my to receive my (USD) salary, turns out I get charged high exchange fees, so I tried to apply for barclays | 17:12 |
| Azelphur | and that was the end of my credit rating, apparently, because I applied for 3 banks in a row. | 17:12 |
| daftykins | mmm can imagine how that would be a red flag | 17:13 |
| Azelphur | yea, but to have that put me from "Perfectly good, no missed payments on anything ever, and no debt" to "Nope you can't even open a bank account"... wow -_- | 17:14 |
| daftykins | how've you gotten paid in the past to avoid fees etc? | 17:14 |
| Azelphur | Paypal, boss paid all fees | 17:15 |
| Azelphur | boss wants to switch to bank transfer for obvious reasons | 17:15 |
| daftykins | i get burnt doing some jobs for some guys in Austria sometimes, ask for a reall small payment and see half of it go on the bank fees - ugh | 17:17 |
| daftykins | *really | 17:21 |
| Azelphur | indeed, I'm loosing about £150/mo to this :( | 17:21 |
| daftykins | suuuuurely it worked out better before :< | 17:22 |
| arsenip | sadly that's how it works Azelphur - has it actually affected you though? | 17:37 |
| arsenip | most institutions dont actually rely solely on the rating - they'll look at individual cases iwth their own metrics (if your numbers all say you're a good candidate and the only downside according to <arbitary number generated by a company who sells said number as their main profit stream> then you'll probs be fine) | 17:38 |
| awilkins | Have updated to 17.04 from 16.04 | 20:44 |
| awilkins | Nautilus has no "Create Folder" option any more. | 20:45 |
| awilkins | ARRRRRGH | 20:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | ctrl-shift-n? | 20:45 |
| awilkins | Yes, that works.... it's just impossible to find in a folder in list view mode with more files than a scrollbar's worth | 20:46 |
| awilkins | On the context menu, I mena | 20:46 |
| awilkins | It's not in the "File" menu either | 20:46 |
| daftykins | cool kids stay on LTS (: | 20:47 |
| awilkins | You have to click in empty space with no files in to get the context menu item. | 20:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | menus are so last decade... you're supposed to discover the features now in hidden hotspots that you click... | 20:47 |
| awilkins | Which is annoying in a camera upload filder with 1,079 photos in it | 20:48 |
| awilkins | Arrgh | 20:48 |
| awilkins | And now your phone doesn't count as a Nautilus window even though it is one | 20:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | go to software installer search for midnight commander... | 20:48 |
| awilkins | Which means you can't alt-` to it from the window you want to copy your photos to | 20:49 |
| awilkins | <grrarrrrrr> | 20:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | i have found myself installing alternative file managers on more distros recently... | 20:49 |
| daftykins | i'll be taking a young lady over to Sark in a little over a week, here's it from near my place - http://i.imgur.com/kstqRKQ.jpg | 20:57 |
| daftykins | just found an amusing old program on it :D https://youtu.be/0yCccWcFbXw | 20:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | i remember reading of a tourist who got a bit lost in germany using a 60+ year old tourist guide | 21:02 |
| diddledan | should have asked the tourist guide whether they knew their way around | 21:03 |
| diddledan | mind you at 60+ they might have had alzeimers | 21:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | it was a printed guide... | 21:05 |
| brobostigon | maybe they should have used hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, which douglas adams started to write hitchiking in germany. :) | 21:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | the original version which listed earth as 'harmless' or the updated version which said 'mostly harmless'? | 21:17 |
| brobostigon | well, as far as the whole universe is concerned, we the earth, are 'mostly harmless' to the rest of the universe, which is very very big, mind'boggingly big' | 21:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | it did take me over an hour to walk back from the chemist... | 21:19 |
| daftykins | cor | 21:24 |
| daftykins | what's that distance measured in Guernseys? | 21:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | no idea but definitely one full metals... | 21:25 |
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