[07:27] morning boys and girls. [11:51] * SuperEngineer won't be around for a wee while. He diappears tomorrow morning for a trip to British Royal Infirmary. If op survived, will be back soonish. If mot, see y'all on the other side. soon. if not [11:53] [I told my own planets leaders that forcing one of us into an Earth body wasn't going to work. Did they believe me? Nah! [11:56] good luck, :), may the penguin gods be with you, [12:00] ;-) [12:00] :) [12:33] these corporeal vessels are too fragile [12:33] SuperEngineer: you need an upgrade [12:34] http://pa1.narvii.com/6395/c93ce5526bc3dd020b363cd6a259a5052546165b_hq.gif [12:40] :) [13:02] edge [13:03] diddledan: upgrade was already tried.... failed, even after reboot [13:03] dang [13:48] anyone recognise the following error, please, https://pastebin.com/P8hdiaBF [16:05] norks :-( https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/04/world/asia/north-korea-missile-test-icbm.html [16:06] amazing Team America haven't stepped up yet [16:06] * diddledan sings the themetune [16:06] UH MERRICA. DUCK YEAH! [16:07] \o/ [16:07] pretty blown away by this, i called up the telco about fixing the mounting of that ancient box of phone lines on the front of my house [16:08] couple of guys came out the same day, and now want to dig up the road and lay fresh copper entirely [16:08] wat [16:08] that's a bit of overkill for a box dangling off the wall. although new copper will probably mean better speed of broadband sync [16:09] yeah might be, doubt i'll see too much more - think i'm already 700m away they say so my line stats are about 55/25 [16:09] 60/10 is the service i pay for though [16:09] aah [16:09] fairly close to spec then [16:10] what's weird is when i was on 40/5, i could use the upnpc package to query the old router that was using ATM, which showed me sync of 52 and 25 [16:10] yet when i moved to the 60/10 service it kept creeping up and eventually claimed 58Mb [16:11] hoe hum, looks like openvz (in proxmox 3.x) doesn't support modern systemd = time to queue up a vmhost rebuild. [16:11] you could tell it couldn't handle it though, downloads would mostly try to ramp up TCP sliding window style to ~5.7MB/sec then drop back off again repeatedly [16:11] thus arsen can't have any modern centos7/ubuntu containers :( [16:11] aww [16:11] but arsensen likes new things! [16:12] see, I can't read arsenip as arsen ip. I always see it as arse nip [16:12] to be fair - on my personal box i want UBER_LTS stability, so i dont have to rebuild stuff very often. [16:12] it's arsen, which was transformed to parsenip for jokes, then dropped the -p [16:13] and someone owns 'arsen' on freenode :) [16:13] * diddledan nips arsenip 's arse [16:13] d'aww [16:16] anyway. cue 3 hours rebuilding VMs pointlessly, giving up and reverting to centos6 (final) [16:16] anyone struggle with clients that needlessly keep a billion browser tabs open? :) [16:16] maybe i should just rent another VPS and build in parallel, and flip DNS, like i would with any real production system. [16:16] esxi [16:17] yeah i was considering it, diddledan [16:17] proxmox is like... crap. [16:17] that's what i do with my domestic VMs too, only swap DNS for port forwards to IPs :> [16:17] I'm running an esxi here in my living room - means I keep my toes toasty :-0p [16:17] :-p [16:18] ive got an initscript for natting my vz containers [16:18] I really should move it into my back room [16:18] diddledan: did y'see the super cheap 10GigE cards that've appeared? [16:18] daftykins: no? [16:18] oddly i have no server at home at all anymore - probably the closest thing is my crappy raspberry pi. [16:18] show me! [16:18] if it weren't for the switch element still, it's becoming more sane [16:18] if you want a 10gig card just let me know :p [16:18] or more feasible i should say [16:18] arsenip: o rly [16:19] would it be some crazy power hungry thing though? :P [16:19] yes likely. [16:19] :D [16:19] XD [16:19] and SFP too [16:19] http://www.anandtech.com/show/11598/asus-launches-xgc100c-10-gbe-adapter-aquantia-aqc107-99 [16:19] but im sure i could find spares. [16:20] I got an intel X520 for ~£50 [16:20] ebay ftw [16:20] be interesting to see how power consumption compares [16:20] *apparently* virgin have 'gifted' me 300mb at home [16:20] so i may now get 100mb, i guess. [16:21] o0 not getting what they claim, huh? [16:21] indeed. super high usage in my area [16:21] arsenip: wealthy client fella has just bought a place in Brompton Park Crescent, where Hyperoptic appear to be installing :D [16:21] massively oversubscribed - i *think* the 300meg upgrades mean they upgraded the backhaul so should be better overall (and faster) [16:21] not far from that fancy pad he had last time [16:22] ah i know where that is [16:22] just behind farm lane, nice restaurant there [16:22] or was, when i went there last [16:22] 5 years ago :D [16:22] we shall have to have a fine meal when i make it over next, then [16:22] although he's gonna gut it as usual from October afaik [16:22] seems to hate walls when he buys places ;) [16:23] i wonder if a modern raspberry pi with two USB 2.5" hdds would make a nice backup solution. [16:23] no. [16:24] they suck for IO :) [16:24] nightly remote backups tho - nps [16:24] although after an initial copy i suppose not too bad [16:24] but if you rsync'd, haha [16:24] wana somehow mirror them, but probably not raid [16:24] basically generate two @home copies of my remote server data [16:24] think you'd be better off buying a Synology DS216j [16:25] i like the idea of unplugging a usb drive and whacking it in my bag - then having all of my data [16:25] they double as VPN endpoints for office shared resource access for some of my clients \o/ [16:29] tbh with a couple of massive drives i could be much lazier about backups - just do entire disk rsyncs :D [17:10] well this is fun [17:12] what've you broken today? :) [17:12] I had a good credit rating, I applied for a joint bank account with my gf, and an account for my to receive my (USD) salary, turns out I get charged high exchange fees, so I tried to apply for barclays [17:12] and that was the end of my credit rating, apparently, because I applied for 3 banks in a row. [17:13] mmm can imagine how that would be a red flag [17:14] yea, but to have that put me from "Perfectly good, no missed payments on anything ever, and no debt" to "Nope you can't even open a bank account"... wow -_- [17:14] how've you gotten paid in the past to avoid fees etc? [17:15] Paypal, boss paid all fees [17:15] boss wants to switch to bank transfer for obvious reasons [17:17] i get burnt doing some jobs for some guys in Austria sometimes, ask for a reall small payment and see half of it go on the bank fees - ugh [17:21] *really [17:21] indeed, I'm loosing about £150/mo to this :( [17:22] suuuuurely it worked out better before :< [17:37] sadly that's how it works Azelphur - has it actually affected you though? [17:38] most institutions dont actually rely solely on the rating - they'll look at individual cases iwth their own metrics (if your numbers all say you're a good candidate and the only downside according to then you'll probs be fine) [20:44] Have updated to 17.04 from 16.04 [20:45] Nautilus has no "Create Folder" option any more. [20:45] ARRRRRGH [20:45] ctrl-shift-n? [20:46] Yes, that works.... it's just impossible to find in a folder in list view mode with more files than a scrollbar's worth [20:46] On the context menu, I mena [20:46] It's not in the "File" menu either [20:47] cool kids stay on LTS (: [20:47] You have to click in empty space with no files in to get the context menu item. [20:47] menus are so last decade... you're supposed to discover the features now in hidden hotspots that you click... [20:48] Which is annoying in a camera upload filder with 1,079 photos in it [20:48] Arrgh [20:48] And now your phone doesn't count as a Nautilus window even though it is one [20:48] go to software installer search for midnight commander... [20:49] Which means you can't alt-` to it from the window you want to copy your photos to [20:49] [20:49] i have found myself installing alternative file managers on more distros recently... [20:57] i'll be taking a young lady over to Sark in a little over a week, here's it from near my place - http://i.imgur.com/kstqRKQ.jpg [20:58] just found an amusing old program on it :D https://youtu.be/0yCccWcFbXw [21:02] i remember reading of a tourist who got a bit lost in germany using a 60+ year old tourist guide [21:03] should have asked the tourist guide whether they knew their way around [21:03] mind you at 60+ they might have had alzeimers [21:05] it was a printed guide... [21:13] maybe they should have used hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, which douglas adams started to write hitchiking in germany. :) [21:17] the original version which listed earth as 'harmless' or the updated version which said 'mostly harmless'? [21:19] well, as far as the whole universe is concerned, we the earth, are 'mostly harmless' to the rest of the universe, which is very very big, mind'boggingly big' [21:19] it did take me over an hour to walk back from the chemist... [21:24] cor [21:24] what's that distance measured in Guernseys? [21:25] no idea but definitely one full metals...