[00:00] Hello. I have a strange problem with my Acer C720's wifi. It finds my router (strong signal), it gets notice if the entered PW is wrong, but with the right password it doesn't establish a connection. I used my smartphone to verify it isn't the router itself. Any idea what it could be? [00:00] p.s. the router even appears to think the netbook is connected: [00:01] idx MAC Associated Authorized RSSI PSM Tx rate Rx rate Connect Time [00:01] 9C:D2:1E:85:61:71 Yes Yes -46dBm No 270M 43.3M 00:00:05 [00:02] (above connection drop after ~30 seconds or so) [00:02] *drops [00:05] Bashing-om [00:06] The following NEW packages will be installed: mysql-server-5.7 - when using autoremove [00:06] not what I want [00:07] Skyrider: Yeah . Not what you want . hummmm .. take the package manager's advise ' sudo apt -f install ' ?? not sure how that will turn out either . [00:21] How can I use version 4.8 of libstdc++6 on Precise? [00:26] zzo38: dont use precise, it's end of life [00:26] !eol [00:26] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [00:26] I used -f Bashing-om [00:26] That's what it making wanting to install it [00:27] can I 'clear' the cache? [00:30] I can't even undo it? [00:31] <[n0mad]> Skyrider: have you tried what's recommended here, just not reinstalling at the end...https://askubuntu.com/questions/776845/uninstall-mysql-from-ubuntu-16-04 [00:33] if I'd purge mysql, will it remove my mariadb. [00:33] whereis mysql -> mysql: /usr/bin/mysql /etc/mysql /usr/share/mysql /usr/share/man/man1/mysql.1.gz [00:34] I do not want to upgrade and mess up everything [00:36] zzo38: you would rather be insecure and not get any updates? [00:36] <[n0mad]> Skyrider: i couldn't tell you. the method in the OS would be to purge and then autoremove and autoclean, as is mentioned in multiple places on the web [00:37] <[n0mad]> Skyrider: you could probably find the answer to your question in #maria [00:38] nacc: I would rather avoid all upgrades and then selectively choose which packages I want to upgrade. [00:39] Hi guys, how can I wrap a long string in my .bashrc? [00:39] Vitruvia: I think you do by adding \ at the end? [00:39] Also, I am running OEM version of Ubuntu, in case that matters. [00:41] zzo38 I tried that but it didn't work so well [00:41] maybe I missed a detail [00:42] I mean I think it works fine for long lines but for strings I'm not so sure [00:43] sb levelclear -levels JOINS,PARTS,QUITS [00:43] >.< [00:44] zzo38: you really need to upgrade. to keep running any OS which does not receive security updates means you just ask for the (nowadays suffciently hostile) internet to take over your computer and use it to attack others. this can also become quite expensive when someone abuses your computer to do things which are illegal in your area and you cannot proove that it wasn't you. [00:46] EOL-OEM [00:46] :-D [00:47] I do have a router though, which specifies which incoming ports can be used. Also, I have various unusual configurations and want to be able to continue to use them. [00:50] zzo38: this is what backups, personal documentation and configuration management are for. sticking to an outdated, insecure system is not a solution, it is a problem. [00:57] the longer you wait, the more painful the eventual upgrade will be [00:58] zzo38: this is also why (most, i guess) people in this channel (and most likely elsewhere), as you have surely noticed by now ;) , are not going to support you with anything but upgrading (or reinstalling) your system so it gets security support. you are putting your personal data (and any other peoples' data you have stored on your computer or access from this computer) as well as the Internet at large at risk by trying to picture yourself in a [00:58] secure world where you'll be protected because you have some firewall in front of you. it won't help, not if you use any of those outdated softwares on your computer with anything on the Internet. Trying to ignore this situation is just irresponsive towards yourself and - worse - others. === Wulf4 is now known as Wulf === coffeeguy is now known as zenguy [01:46] in short, firewalls don't help with software that makes outbound connections. Only software updates do. [01:46] I do at least know where I kept all of my files in three different directories (and all subdirectories), as well as a few additional configurations such as /etc/aliases and /etc/apache2/ and /etc/exim4/ but I also hexedited one of the .so files used by Firefox. [01:46] Kitlith: That is true, yes. [01:47] Actually even when I purchased this computer, it was not the newest version, and they mentioned to not upgrade it (possibly due to hardware issues). [01:48] I cannot answer all of my question about upgrade anyways, too [01:49] And I do not want Wayland; I want to use X [01:49] Who did you buy it from, so that we can smack them in the face (or at least can point people away from them)? [01:50] What reason do you have for specifically wanting X over wayland? Application breakage? [01:51] X is a better system than Wayland [01:51] Ahh, so me with systemd. Understandable. [01:51] (I also use xterm) [01:52] There is a compatibilty layer, so most if not all x applications should be able to run under wayland, iirc? [01:52] (https://wayland.freedesktop.org/xserver.html) [01:53] Maybe, but, I still don't like Wayland so well, X is just a much better design (although a lot of worthless extensions have been added on) [01:54] I don't have any comments on X vs Wayland, personally, but I will say this: Is it worth being insecure and staying on ubuntu to keep using X? [01:56] Anyways, what are your other questions about the upgrade? [01:56] I could even just install X and uninstall Wayland if I wanted to I suppose. I don't like much of the new widgets either; I think Xaw is good. [01:57] Kitlith: Various stuff, about how to avoid changing software to incompatible versions, to avoid changing configuration files, etc. [01:58] That... will be on an application by application basis. Are you sure you don't want to run CentOS/RHEL? [01:59] Yes I did think also of possibly selecting a different distribution, but then it involves other questions. [01:59] I am not sure if CentOS will be better or not, actually [01:59] Ubuntu is just what the computer came with. [02:00] I only asked that because they seem to focus heavily on what your concerns seem to be. [02:01] (idk about X vs Wayland, I just mean stability and only upgrading what needs to be upgraded.) [02:03] Point is, I think it'd be better to upgrade in some way than to remain insecure. Whether it's to later ubuntu or another disctribution. [02:03] I use X core fonts and do not like the newer blurry and overkerned fonts. [02:07] I'm glad to assist in whatever way I can, just keep in mind that there is a point where we're off-topic for #ubuntu, and you may want to start PMing me. [02:08] I actually do use all of the X stuff mentioned in the Wayland FAQ that they say is no good, and would rather avoid FreeType, Pango, etc. [02:11] So I wanted a bit different one which I proposed which is just a new version of X, very close to X11, although some features are removed (mainly such things as the ability for clients to change configuration settings such as the font path and the access controls), and a few new stuff such as 3D coordinates and a modified system of visual classes and two new flags for the font loader (EnableLigatures and EnableAntialiasing, both off by default). === KindTwo is now known as KindOne === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [02:20] I'm watching netflix and getting a black screen while I watch, because I guess the keyboard is quiet and it wants to save energy ? It's not a laptop [02:22] xjkx: which browser? [02:22] xangua: firefox [02:23] Ooh screen turning off [02:23] Yes [02:30] So, what's the best, lightweight, ubuntu-based distro? [02:35] strive, Lubuntu is supposed to be light, since I like xfce I'd use xubuntu... oh, wait. The lightest of them all is going to be a minimal install of Ubuntu server. :P [02:35] Makes sense. [02:36] Kitlith: Thank you. [02:36] other than lubuntu and ubuntu server, it really just comes down to personal preference. [02:37] I'm sure there's better options, but those are what come to mind. [02:37] Sounds good. [02:37] Thanks again. [02:38] so my chromium isn't working for google maps (as normal user, as incognito it works fine). I get 400 errors for many many many requests [02:38] any idea on how to debug this === yanome is now known as yn [02:43] How are ya all doing tonight? [02:47] hi all :) i'm trying to use ufw :\ here's my status numbered: http://ix.io/yfa -- but it seems like rule #8 is not taking effect. any ideas? [02:51] actually, one strange thing about this is that i don't have a deny rule anywhere, so why would "ufw disable" suddenly allow packets through [02:52] oh, i guess the "defaults" aren't listed in ufw... man ufw is confusing... [02:52] so much for "uncomplicated" [02:54] oh, i guess the packets aren't getting through just because tcpdump sees them [02:56] what is the origin of kernel mod asus_wifi? [03:01] ...I had a boyfriend named "ubuntu" once [04:01] Is it possible to install a single package from 16.10 while I'm on 16.04? [04:05] !backports | guzzlefry [04:05] guzzlefry: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [04:07] how do I installed ubuntu on a windows box that has secure boot to end up w/ dual boot. windows + linux? [04:08] hanasaki: Someone might have a better answer, but I'd just run Ubuntu in a VM. [04:10] guzzlefry: I may run win in a vm LOL. just don't want to totally wipe win off the pc [04:10] anyone know if the rt8152 can do gigabit? looks only 10/100 to me [04:15] !dualboot | hanasaki [04:15] hanasaki: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [04:46] HAPPY 4RTH OF JULY EVERYBODY! AMERICA RULES! FREEDOM RULES! CHOLBY RULES! [04:57] this is what I got when I ran "apt-get upgrade -y" https://apaste.info/oH6b on this 16.04 setup https://apaste.info/ugY4 how do I get past these errors? === zenguy is now known as buildingAsentry [05:03] kill blueman? or dig thru here? https://journalxtra.com/linux/fixing-the-dreaded-errors-were-encountered-while-processing-errors/ [05:04] no pid running [05:04] "kill == uninstall [05:05] k [05:06] it's not installed.....apt-get remove blue(tabcomplete didn't pull anything up) === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [05:12] this didn't fix it - sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing I tried [05:14] where are downloaded pkg's go from apt-get guessing the blueman package is there and if I just remove it poof? [05:14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG6EOci0suI [05:17] running ubuntu amd64 16.04 desktop on laptop with i3-4005u cpu. no dedicated gpu. how can i tell if i have hardware accel enabled? i followed this guide. http://www.binarytides.com/linux-get-gpu-information/ but the comments at the bottom are basically saying that guide is no good no more [05:17] heh, Key & Peele are the best [05:18] donofrio, looks like blueman didn't install [05:18] if you scroll to the bottom of about line 285 [05:18] it's neither installed nor uninstalled [05:19] did you try a sudo dpkg --configure -a [05:21] related, but mildly offtopic, Kats Williams is the bomb [05:26] any of you who have seen a ubuntu installation trying with TCP53 several times before giving up and try UDP53 for dns queries (even small ones) ? [05:28] hmmm Apachez if I remember correctly isn't DNS using UPD and if that fails it goes to TCP [05:28] okay did a quick google if the DNS query is large it uses TCP [05:29] https://serverfault.com/questions/404840/when-do-dns-queries-use-tcp-instead-of-udp [05:29] sirru5h: yes, but now I have a ubuntu box (this happens when using java who is trying to verify codesigning) who is trying tcp53 several times before giving up and then try udp53 (and get a quick reply from the server) [05:29] this gives that this java app takes minutes to startup [05:29] because the client cannot reach the dns server over tcp53 (out of my control) [05:31] so either its something in ubuntu (systemd?) who is misbehaving or its the java who is misbehaving (dunno if java would query itself or if it would go through the system settings because ubuntu today points dns queries to itself so I guess both java and systemd is to blame - but question is how to fix this?) [05:32] hmm that's interesting [05:34] could it be some "force dnssec" setting somewhere? [05:35] so systemd-resolver/java goes "lets try tcp" "lets try tcp" "lets try tcp" ... "lets try tcp" ... "oh fuck, tcp doesnt work lets try udp instead" and gets an answer === buildingAsentry is now known as zenguy [05:36] hi, when executing apt upgrade i get an error for dpkg https://paste.ubuntu.com/25016425/ anybody to help me? [05:37] hello. seem to be having some issues setting up encrypted volumes during ubuntu install. i downloaded the desktop iso from the releases page (LTS). Should I be using a text installer to get this? Kinda need crypt-dm. [05:38] since it wants to install from the live boot, which likes to mount things randomly, it appears there are some quirks. i do not want a livecd. i want to install. [05:41] Apachez, hmmm that is weird because usually for larger packets tcp is used with dns small stuff its usually tcp [05:41] that is true Apachez I was also thinking DNSSEC [05:43] giving the latest fuckups of systemd I wouldnt be surprised if systemd is to blame for this [05:44] is there a "text mode" for the installer? [05:44] seems like if some app queries 127.0.1.1 over tcp systemdresolver will use tcp outbound [05:44] but dunno how it behaves if something query systemdresolver over udp and its a large query or dnssec? [05:48] trying to use the newest ubuntu, no ports other than ssh are available, if I go to localhost via links, I see http server, if I try to port-forward, nothing works, is there any new special stuff in ubuntu-server 17.04? [05:48] I dunno Apachez usually it routes dns to the gateway [05:49] ha. yeah it fails to mount / if it is encrypted even if you have encrypted swap and an unencrypted /boot [05:49] in fact something is preventing any partition table updates from being read by the kernel [05:51] Apachez, so this is a java app that needs to connect to a server remotely right like this isn't your app that your are hosting hence why it is pointing to your machine to resolve DNS? [05:52] mic check [05:52] testing if my client is sending messages [05:53] test [05:55] sirru5h: you have a clientbox, this clientbox runs ubuntu, the clientbox then tries to start a javaapp, this javaapp is codesigned so a couple of dns queries will be fired [05:55] running tcpdump locally on this clientbox shows me that the clientbox attempts tcp53 for dns queries several times before giving up and then use udp53 [05:56] test [05:56] reason for why tcp53 fails is that this is blocked elsewhere in the network out of my control [05:56] test [05:56] so the java app double checks the signture making sure the application has integrity [05:56] so question is why this ubuntu box tries tcp53 instead of udp53 ? [05:56] test [05:57] sirru5h: yeah you can see that the queries made (once it use udp53) goes to find out crl, ocsp etc for the CA who signed the cert which the javaapp is signed with [05:57] test [05:57] so turns out I have 3 prime suspects: systemd-resolved, dnsmasq and java itself [05:57] test [05:58] so question is who to blame or rather where the fix might be [05:58] and if somebody else in here have seen such behaviour? [05:58] test [05:58] Phanes: yes shutup now ;) [05:59] THANKS FOR ACKNOWLEDING [05:59] Apachez, hmmm why not run tcpdump and see where the packets are failing at [05:59] I did [05:59] I see several tcp53 syn [05:59] on to actually ubuntu related issues, anyone know how to get dm-crypt working on the desktop installer? [05:59] who fails because its blocked elsewhere in the network [05:59] hm hence how you know it's shooting to your machine for DNS [05:59] perhaps 10 or so [05:59] and THEN I see a udp53 [05:59] which gets a quick reply from the dns server [06:00] and this repeats for every domainname java tries to resolve [06:00] wow thats odd [06:00] which is why it takes 1-2 minutes to start this javaapp [06:00] sounds like a ##networking issue [06:00] na, the network is fine [06:00] it just blocks tcp53 [06:01] but this shouldnt affect small queries as these are [06:01] so the issue is ubuntu related [06:01] you know just a crazy thought maybe company is blocking tcp dns to prevent xfil of data I wonder if through cli you can send a tcp packet on port 53 [06:01] because other operating systems sitting at the same spot of the network works [06:01] see if that goes through [06:01] because they will use udp53 directly and never ends up with this retries for tcp53 before giving up and THEN try udp53 [06:01] sirru5h: nope its blocked, verified with dig [06:02] ....no one's using encrypted volumes? [06:02] so again why does ubuntu (or if its systemd-resolved, dnsmasq or java) attempt tcp53 when its supposed to do udp53 at first attempt? [06:02] Phanes: sounds like a ##encryption issue [06:02] ahhh hmm that is odd [06:03] it is actually a bug in the official installer for ubuntu [06:03] no shit :) [06:03] if there is a better, more on-topic channel focusing specifically on ubuntu I can ask there but am not sure what channel that is [06:04] your issue looks like networking (firewall, et al) [06:04] that would mean the java app they coded it to use a tcp socket ... [06:04] for dns which is usually upd [06:05] that'd be bonkers [06:05] now this is interesting: http://paste.silogroup.org/pimusebewi.md [06:05] seems to be an MBR v. GPT thing [06:06] https://github.com/cpriego/valet-linux/issues/7 dunno if this is related [06:06] sirru5h: its not the javaapp itself who does the codesigning verify, its java itself who does this [06:07] but dns flows in ubuntu is a mess nowadays [06:07] Yeah I understand that but it'd be bonkers that first thing they open sockets for DNS resolution is Tcp [06:07] application -> resolv.conf -> dnsmasq -> systemd-resolved -> nic -> [06:07] and when I run tcpdump it hooks on whats passing the nic [06:08] yeah and I doubt java itself would query the external server [06:08] because java can only see whats in resolv.conf [06:08] Apachez, yeah I hear you I just came back to ubuntu a few months back [06:08] and that says 127.0.1.1 [06:08] which is dnsmaq [06:08] however [06:08] if java uses tcp to query dnsmasq then I would assume dnsmasq would just forward that as tcp [06:08] I flipflop between ubuntu/debian/slackware [06:08] and if java uses udp to query dnsmasq I would assume dnsmasq would forward that as udp [06:09] however... [06:09] what if you query a large question through udp to dnsmasq [06:09] will dnsmasq transform that udp query into a tcp query? [06:09] and if so is this what happens in this case even if the query is small? [06:09] I think over 4096 it uses tcp [06:10] yeah and the queries are more like <100 bytes [06:10] remember that upd was meant for small queries [06:10] ok. so the installer is not rereading the partition tables after changing them [06:10] so the output from tcpdump is that I see multiple (one after another) syn requests go out for tcp53 [06:11] and after like 10 or so attempts I see a udp53 attempt (who directly succeeds and answer is returned from server) [06:11] can I tcpdump a specific pid? [06:12] like hooking onto whatever network traffic java is attempting? [06:12] to rule out if its java who is trying these tcp queries before giving up and give udp a go? [06:12] I got a .sh script in my /home/myusername/script/myfilename.sh ... how do I make that accessable from anywhere? ln -s ~/ /home/myusername/script/myfilename.sh or something? [06:13] mmmm [06:13] hang on that might be an options [06:14] "After some digging it turned out to be an issue with DNSSEC. The current version of systemd-resolve seems to expect a working DNSSEC config of your DNS servers. Not signed replies are rejected. Had to add DNSSEC=off to resolved.conf" [06:14] looks like another suspect [06:14] however regular queries (like when the browser tries to resolve something) seems to work [06:15] does the java application use a special port [06:15] you can always filter for a special port [06:16] Apachez, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7842533/how-can-i-capture-network-packets-per-pid [06:16] well it should use dstport 53 :P [06:18] tnx, will try that when I get access to the client [06:18] will also try that disabling dnssec in systemdresolved to verify if that somehow misbehaves [06:20] Cool Apachez let me know how that goes [06:20] and good luck Apachez [06:20] tnx :) [06:24] Np sorry I wasn't more help [06:53] seems like systemd-resolved was compiled with dnssec=no [06:56] ha Apachez interesting [06:56] well that would eliminate dnssec as an issue [07:13] is there a tool that lets me define from which level up to which level my laptop battery shall be charged? [07:17] hmm emx laptop batteries and phone batteries are not the same as say a flashlight battery [07:18] if they are constantly not charged to full they bascially forget how much charge they are supposed to hold and battery performance will degrade [07:19] hello all [07:20] Hello yellabs-r2 [07:20] i am using skype beta on ubuntu , it alway's asks for password with keyring manager, is there a way to avoid that ? [07:20] sirru5h, which type of batteries are you talking about? NiMH, LiPo, others? [07:21] emx: i don't have an answer but am curious what the purpose of such anthing would be [07:22] emx, iirc ion [07:22] wedgie, expand battery lifetime (not "how much work can i do with one charge" but "how many times can i charge the battery and still can work for more then 4 hours with one charge") [07:28] I fail to locate - from where is dnsmasq started in ubuntu 16.10? [07:30] isn't it in /etc/dnsmasq.d [07:30] double checking [07:41] nope [07:41] there is only network-manager file [07:41] perhaps thats the config? [07:46] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/dnsmasq.8.html [07:46] sorry Apachez working on reports for work man [07:51] yes but who is starting it? [07:51] no entry in /etc/init.d [07:56] hello, I installed ubuntu 17.04 and evolution, added my dns server to /etc/resolv.conf & network manager connection, host can resolve, but evolution can't resolve [07:56] hey guys, i'm trying to update my system all packages installed succesfully, but with the linux-* packages it says i'm out of disk space https://bpaste.net/show/266e31392a08 but when i check Computer properties i says i still have 6 GB left .. what could be wrong here ? [07:56] anybdy knows there evolution takes it's dns settings? [07:57] ph88, show "df -h" command output from terminal [07:57] ok [07:57] i did sudo apt autoremove also it cleaned out 2 GB [07:58] ph88: It uses a different partiion for kernels and things it uses to boot. [07:58] ph88: See https://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu [08:00] ok thx guys [08:01] Apachez, I think systemd [08:03] Apachez, I'm looking at the github page right now ... [08:07] hi everyone, my "file" command only ever gives the error message "file: could not find any valid magic files!". man pages says magic.mgc file is in anaconda folder: anaconda3/share/misc/magic.mgc. anyone have any suggestions? [08:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq [08:09] i use tmux with set -g mouse on.. if I copy text with shift it is only available to paste with shift+ins.. how do I make it copyable outside of the terminal? [08:10] sirru5h, is it for me? [08:12] I guess this question must pop up a lot but I just rebooted and the system tray icons are gone. How do I fix that? === jstein_ is now known as jstein [08:14] thofte: What does `file /bin/sh` say? [08:14] Hi, I asked in here yesterday about a patch for intel skylake processor. [08:14] hi chai, thanks for the response. it gives the same error message [08:15] Just wanted to mention that the patch was in the apt-get repo for the distro as installed, applied now and appears to be fine. [08:15] it always just says "file: could not find any valid magic files!" no matter what file I apply it on [08:15] nerfur, no that was for Apachez [08:16] thofte: What does `which file` say? [08:16] sirru5h: unfortunately that seems like outdated info [08:16] there is no /etc/dnsmasq.conf as a starter [08:16] nerfur, I scrolled up oh man another DNS with issues [08:16] ouch... [08:16] anaconda3/bin/file, it uses the anaconda distro [08:17] well ~/anaconda3/bin/file [08:19] thofte: You might get better help in #python or something like that. [08:19] thofte: Assuming that Anaconda is the Python distribution. [08:20] aye it is [08:20] Apachez, https://askubuntu.com/questions/842380/dnsmasq-why-is-this-running ... Network-Manager uses it to cache DNS Locally and Network-Manager is called upon by systemd [08:21] it seems weird to me that a core linux command like file would use a version that comes with anaconda, but I suppose it has to do with the python magic libs I use [08:22] anyway, thanks for the advice, I will try [08:22] thofte: The user's home directory can contain a bin directory. If it does, the files in it are used before the system files. [08:23] thofte: If you want to prevent that, move the distribution to some subdirectory of the user's home directory instead. Then, its bin directory won't be ~/bin.. [08:23] ah right. but it's not ~/bin though, it's ~/anaconda3/bin [08:24] thofte: Ahh, misread what you wrote. I think the ~/anaconda3/bin must be in your PATH ahead of the system bin directories. [08:25] yes, it's in first spot [08:26] thofte: You can try moving it to the end instead. [08:27] That said, I now see that all the search engines have disappeared from firefox, that is strange. [08:27] can anybody give me default ubuntu 17.04 string for "hosts" in nsswitch ? [08:28] nerfur: Do you mean /etc/hosts? [08:29] I mean hosts: .... in /etc/nsswitch.conf [08:31] nerfur: Here's my untouched since installation file: http://lpaste.net/356665 === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [08:35] ChaiTRex: I moved anaconda3/bin to the end of PATH, but ofcourse that changes the python version being used, so my scripts no longer works, but file works as expected now :D [08:36] so your first suggestion was probably right, I'll head on over to #python to see if anyone can help [08:36] but thank you, though [08:36] hi, anyone know the cause of this error in the auth log: pam_ftp(ftp:auth): conversation failed [08:38] thofte: You're welcome. === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [08:42] Greetings all. [08:42] Was hoping I could get some help from yesterday, I went to bed ^_^ [08:43] "I accidently attempted to install mysql-server and got " mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.7 but it is not installed" .. how can I undo it?" - if I attempt to do sudo apt-get -f autoremove, it 'attempts' to install mysql-server.5.7, and removing the package says its not installed. [08:45] ChaiTRex: thanks [08:46] oh, I had accidentally switched to gnome or something [08:47] Skyrider, sudo dpkg --purge mysql-server, and then sudo apt-get install -f [08:54] nerfur: You're welcome. === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [09:16] " It's from dnsmasq-base. This version of the package doesn't include the server-start-up scripts that the dnsmasq package does." [09:16] bah! [09:16] it was better back in the days without this systemd and networkmanager mumbojumbo [09:20] hi all [09:20] I need help with a live usb that I'd like to be persistant [09:20] I've created it on a Mac with unetbootin [09:20] the capser-rw file is present on the usb [09:21] I boot under ubuntu, change the screen resolution, then reboot [09:21] but the screen resolution is not saved [09:21] any idea on what I am doing wrong ? [09:41] hi all. I am looking to migrate to ubuntu from windows and was wondering if there's anyone here who has done something similar. My work does involve use of MS office quite often so i will need something that can perform similar tasks whilst enabling me to seamlessly work with files created on ms office by other users [09:41] thanks in advance [09:44] ZN_t: libreoffice, or the web versions of office online, or google docs [09:45] ZN_t: for office compatibility you could try playonlinux which uses wine. libreoffice is good but not 100% [09:49] sudo dpkg --purge mysql-server, and then sudo apt-get install -f completely wiped my mariadb.. [09:49] ZN_t: I use libreoffice just fine [09:49] Why is it so hard to UNDO a stupid apt-get install [09:49] you can add microsoft icons if needed [09:49] otherwise you got wps which is like a ripoff of office2013 [09:50] Ugh... [09:50] Sometimes I hate linux for being so damn complicated. [09:51] I merely 'wanted' to undo the mysql-server installation as mariadb was already installed.. mysql-server wasn't installed yet due to dependencies. But it kept whining after every apt-get command I do. [09:51] Yet for odd reasons, you can't undo that. [09:53] 1. backups [09:53] Oh, I made backups as I didn't trust this.. [09:53] Doesn't change the fact that you can't undo a simple apt-get command [09:53] sure you can [09:53] Any ideas why the intel-microcode patch might disrupt my firefox sync? [09:53] Do tell [09:53] depends on the command [09:54] apt-get install mysql-server while mariadb was already installed. [09:54] But due to "dependencies" it never installed. [09:54] https://chaturbate.com/b/viltiesvance/ [09:55] free webcam show :) [09:55] male based [09:55] free [09:55] enjoy [09:55] Vilties: no. stop [09:55] too late [09:55] its done! [09:55] Which is good, actually.. but after every apt-get install command (non mysql related), it kept 'attempting' to install mysql-server. [09:56] Vilties, and now that you have been silenced --- please take your pervy porn spam crap out of here. unwelcome and off-topic [09:56] thats one thing that i can't understand. linux does most things better than windows except have a better office suite. [09:57] ZN_t: that's not true [09:58] ZN_t, many *nix suites are "better" --- they're just not widely used. Plus, MSoft introduces features with each release which may/may not be back hacked thus leading to compatibility issues [09:59] ok. [10:00] i guess its the compatibility issue then. integrating into a corporate environment that widely uses msoffice. is anyone here using the office online offerings ? [10:01] that's not really on topic here, but i'm sure microsoft's online stuff is compatible with the desktop stuff [10:01] Ben64 - apologies for that [10:02] no worries [10:04] regarding security - how vulnerable is ubuntu to ransomware attacks ? is it more easily secured without compromising ease of use i.e. web acccess etc. [10:06] ZN_t, less of a fat target than windows so less frequent attacks. I've found that enabling firewall, setting my browser to default incognito mode and only using a low standard desktop account for daily driving has resulted in 0 breaches over the past 5 years [10:06] YMMV [10:07] don't install stuff from random places, don't run things you don't know what they do, don't have java enabled on your browser and you should be fine [10:07] oh, and if you have ssh enabled, keep it to key auth only [10:08] ok [10:08] thats promising. im contemplating a dual boot. [10:08] with totally seperate drives for each os. [10:10] many of use dual boot in one form or another. personally, as I only ever fire up win7 once or twice a year, it lives happily within ubuntu + vbox [10:11] hows the resource usage in vbox ? besides office i might need to run visual studio which is a resource hog. Is gaming advisable in vbox ? [10:12] ZN_t, limiting factors = amount of ram supplied to the virtual machine. also consider that virtual graphics is nowhere near as spiffy as actual gpu [10:15] hey guys i feel a bit like i have millions of iptables saved configs dotted around heh. /etc/iptables.rules, /etc/network/iptables.rules, /etc/iptables/ipv4.rules, etc [10:15] what's the story? do they get merged together or something? [10:18] i see no firewall rules in /etc/interfaces, but the machine does have iptables-persistent installed [10:20] er /etc/network/interfaces sorry [10:28] There is an issue in my application of this patch; Is anyone interested? [10:28] I guess there is some channel for filing bug repports? [10:28] !bug | mrig [10:28] mrig: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [10:29] ubottu: Thanks. [10:29] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [10:29] ubottu: Well you are more polite than many humans on irc :P [10:29] mrig: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [10:30] lol === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [10:45] Hey folks [10:54] slightly off topic but is there anyone from south africa here or is there a seperate ZA ubuntu channel ? [10:55] !africa [10:56]