[15:26] <cnf> ugh, debugging juju is a pain
[15:26] <rick_h> cnf: :( trouble is paradise?
[15:27] <cnf> not a lot of paradise, tbh
[15:28] <cnf> once again got a deploy that seems to be waiting for stuff
[15:28] <rick_h> bummer cnf
[15:28] <rick_h> cnf: waiting for the machine? or waiting for download of agents onto the machine? or the charm getting setup?
[15:28] <cnf> i don't know
[15:29] <cnf> it says "waiting for machine"
[15:29] <rick_h> cnf: k, and so if you run juju status there's a machine with a # there that's got some info?
[15:29] <rick_h> cnf: and if you juju show-machine X it should give you some hint on what's up with that machine coming up?
[15:29] <cnf> nope
[15:29] <cnf> juju show-machine  1/lxd/0
[15:29] <cnf> model: openstack
[15:29] <cnf> machines: {}
[15:30] <rick_h> try just "juju show-machine 1"
[15:31] <cnf> nothing that indicates what could be the problem
[15:34] <rick_h> cnf: hmm, guess the next thing would be the lxd logs on the machine 1 to see that it got the request and why it's not creating the container?
[15:34] <cnf> i'm looking at them
[15:34] <cnf> it has created the container
[15:34] <cnf> it is running
[15:35] <cnf> hmm, how do i attach to a running container again
[15:36] <cnf> right, it's lacking ip
[15:36] <cnf> wtf juju
[15:36] <cnf> >,<
[15:37] <cnf> it is downright ignoring the constraints
[15:38] <cnf> i'm seriously getting fed up with juju :(
[15:38] <cnf> constraints: "spaces=space-maas" should put that container in that space, right?
[15:39] <cnf> hmm, MaaS has an IP allocated for it
[15:40] <cnf> but juju didn't apply it to the container
[15:41] <cnf> any suggestions?
[15:46] <rick_h> cnf: you need a bind for the application
[15:46] <cnf> rick_h: sorry?
[15:46] <rick_h> cnf: https://jujucharms.com/docs/2.2/charms-deploying#deploying-to-spaces
[15:47] <cnf> i'm not sure what you are trying to tell me
[15:48] <rick_h> cnf: sorry, so you're deploying something into a container on machine 1 and want it to use the IP address for the space-maas?
[15:48] <cnf> well, "want", it NEEDS an IP in that space, or nothing will work
[15:49] <cnf> so i have a constraint to the service, which used to work in 2.1
[15:49] <cnf> but now it seems to get ignored
[15:51] <cnf> for _all_ my containers
[15:53] <cnf> jamespage: prod?
[15:55] <cnf> or jam ^^;
[15:59] <cnf> hmz
[17:26] <rick_h> Coming up in 30min, The Juju Show #16 where we talk about modeling relations across models. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_vMN_opVlA #jujucharms
[17:26] <rick_h> marcoceppi: bdx kwmonroe arosales aisrael and anyone else that might be interested in sitting in ^
[17:27] <arosales> modeling relations across models, is that a thing now ?
[17:29] <rick_h> arosales: :) come sit in and talk about it :P
[17:30] <arosales> rick_h: sounds interesting, will do
[17:51] <wolsen> what's the process to get a new version of charmhelpers uploaded to pypi?
[17:52] <tvansteenburgh1> wolsen: the process is to ping me
[17:53] <wolsen> tvansteenburgh: ping
[17:53] <wolsen> :-)
[17:53] <tvansteenburgh> yeah, i saw that coming :P
[17:54] <kwmonroe> rick_h: got a live link for the show?
[17:54] <rick_h> kwmonroe: yep, getting it now sec
[17:55] <rick_h> https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ej2jhdqknnfdzkpildnekcgw2ye for those joining in
[17:55] <rick_h> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_vMN_opVlA for those that want to watch
[17:55] <rick_h> lol wolsen
[17:55] <rick_h> "in that case...consider yourself pinged"
[17:55] <wolsen> tvansteenburgh: there's a bug fix in the contrib.openstack code which helps a bit with the ordering of dictionaries for rendering config files - its triggering undesirable restarts of services due to iterating over a dictionary
[17:56] <tvansteenburgh> wolsen: will release momentarily
[17:56] <wolsen> thanks tvansteenburgh !
[17:57] <wolsen> rick_h: to be fair, tvansteenburgh changed his nick just after telling me to ping him
[17:57] <tvansteenburgh> oh, you caught that
[17:57] <rick_h> lol
[17:57] <rick_h> even more awesome
[17:57] <wolsen> sly and clever
[17:58] <rick_h> "I'll trick tab complete /nick zrick_h"
[17:58] <rick_h> bwuhahahaha
[17:58] <tvansteenburgh> wolsen: new release uploaded
[17:58] <wolsen> tvansteenburgh: thank you very much sir
[17:59] <rick_h> aisrael: you up for joining and talking docs sprint?
[18:00] <tvansteenburgh> wolsen: np
[18:02] <aisrael> rick_h: head down on pre-travel backlog. Maybe next time!
[18:34] <kwmonroe> holy crap rick_h -- just skipped through some youtube playback.  my hamsters are clearly dead :/  really sorry bout that!!
[18:34] <rick_h> kwmonroe: all good, it was close enough
[18:42] <Budgie^Smore> o/ juju world
[18:44] <rick_h> Budgie^Smore: what's up
[18:44] <Budgie^Smore> not much rick_h, enjoy the holiday?
[18:45] <rick_h> you know it, some off roading, mountain biking, fireworks and beverages. All make for a good time :)
[18:46] <Budgie^Smore> sounds like it, although living in CA we have to watch fireworks not fire them
[18:54] <rick_h> I prefer watching. You get better fireworks https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/albums/72157682727171142 :)
[18:55] <Budgie^Smore> yeah also gives you a chance to take photos too
[19:01] <rick_h> Heh no doubt
[22:43] <aisrael> I might be over-thinking this, but are spaces the only way to add/manage machines with multiple network interfaces? If so, is that still MAAS-only?