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redwolfsup18:31
redwolftsimonq2, TIBERIO!! you there?18:31
tsimonq2redwolf: ALBERTO!21:03
lubot<VikingRedwolf> YER!21:20
tsimonq2Whatchu want?21:20
lubot<VikingRedwolf> a summary of what happened yesterday21:21
lubot<VikingRedwolf> .__.21:21
tsimonq2Hmmmmmmmmm?21:21
lubot<VikingRedwolf> something about kde or something. like about 224 messages21:23
lubot<VikingRedwolf> .__.21:23
tsimonq2O__o21:23
lubot<VikingRedwolf> dunno21:24
lubot<VikingRedwolf> council? kde? mailing lists?21:24
tsimonq2I don't get it21:26
lubot<VikingRedwolf> nevermind 😂21:31
tsimonq2That was in *my* channel...21:31
lubot<VikingRedwolf> O___O21:36
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I thought I read something about KDE. I'm nuts 😐21:36
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl23 @VikingRedwolf @julienlavergne https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001045.html22:40
tsimonq2lynorian: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001045.html22:40
lubot<tsimonq2> I just want to make sure y'all see that22:40
lubot<VikingRedwolf> thanks. we need to talk about the window manager issue. ob is not exactly maintained. and it's ugly af22:41
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok22:41
lubot<tsimonq2> So22:41
lubot<tsimonq2> What do we use?22:41
lubot<VikingRedwolf> dunno yet22:41
lubot<tsimonq2> Fix it! .__.22:42
lubot<VikingRedwolf> but I'm looking closely the project Lumina22:42
lubot<VikingRedwolf> have a read: https://lumina-desktop.org/features/22:43
lubot<wxl23> I don't recommend doing anything but ob or kwin since that's what devs are using22:44
lubot<wxl23> Is lumina packaged?22:44
lubot<VikingRedwolf> for bsd only, for now22:44
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl23, idk22:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah22:44
lubot<wxl23> Yeah well f that22:44
tsimonq2!language @wxl2322:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> anyway they're using "old" wms now. the new wm is highly experimental. but it seems it's a clone of ob with wayland supprot22:45
tsimonq2!language | @wxl2322:45
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meetingologyubot93: Error: "wxl23:" is not a valid command.22:45
tsimonq2XD22:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> we don't have many choices though22:45
lubot<wxl23> It requires fluxbox22:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> for now, yes22:46
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I wanted flux for Lubuntu in the beggining22:46
lubot<VikingRedwolf> team voted for ob22:46
lubot<VikingRedwolf> flux is simpler in config files and it support more advanced themes, but...22:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> democracy sucks :P22:47
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Now's your time to speak up :P22:47
lubot<tsimonq2> I'm willing to give it a shot22:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> now I don't want to!22:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Why? .__.22:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> it'll be complicated to change22:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> the session manager is "adapted" to work with ob22:48
lubot<tsimonq2> Fwd from wxl: <wxl> yeah well it not being packages and being primarily targeted for bsd, that's probably an issue22:48
lubot<tsimonq2> Fwd from wxl: <wxl> i always thought fluxbox was gtk22:48
wxlyes that thank you22:48
lubot<VikingRedwolf> O.o fluxbox is just fluxbox. no gtk or qt22:49
wxlno no22:49
wxlit's one or the other22:49
lubot<tsimonq2> Wayland? .__.22:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, I want The Hurd kernel for Lubuntu! ·_____·22:49
wxlomg22:49
wxlkick him please22:49
lubot<tsimonq2> loll22:50
lubot<VikingRedwolf> read diz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox#GTK_themes22:50
lubot<VikingRedwolf> openbox does NOT use any gtk library22:50
lubot<VikingRedwolf> themes are in a standalone folder22:51
lubot<VikingRedwolf> and it works on many Qt based distros22:51
lubot<tsimonq2> $ apt-cache show openbox22:51
lubotPackage: openbox22:51
lubotPriority: optional22:51
lubotSection: universe/x1122:51
lubotInstalled-Size: 116922:51
lubotMaintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>22:51
lubotOriginal-Maintainer: Mateusz Łukasik <mati75@linuxmint.pl>22:51
lubotArchitecture: amd6422:51
lubotVersion: 3.6.1-4ubuntu122:51
lubotProvides: x-session-manager, x-window-manager22:51
lubotDepends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.35.9), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libobrender32v5 (>= 3.6.0), libobt2v5 (>= 3.6.0), libsm6, libstartup-notification0 (>= 0.7), libx11-6, libxau6, libxcursor1 (» 1.1.2), libxext6, libxi6 (>= 2:1.2.99.4), libxinerama1, libxrandr222:51
lubotRecommends: obconf, python-xdg | obsession, scrot22:51
lubotSuggests: menu, fonts-dejavu, python, libxml2-dev, tint2, openbox-menu, openbox-gnome-session (= 3.6.1-4ubuntu1), openbox-kde-session (= 3.6.1-4ubuntu1)22:51
lubotBreaks: menu (« 2.1.12)22:51
tsimonq2Uh oh, did I break it? :P22:52
wxlum22:52
Unit193You really should know better...22:52
wxlthen wtf is ob-qt?22:52
tsimonq2It's frontend22:53
tsimonq2Ob*conf*-Qt22:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Fixed it :P22:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Fwd from VikingRedwolf: That's our build22:53
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Funny that kde session breaks menu 😂22:54
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, I mean Ubuntu's22:54
wxlof course we have a history of using ob22:54
wxlso who amongst the people fixing bugs and providing code want to make the switch?22:54
lubot<VikingRedwolf> But many I'm afraid.22:55
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Flux is old now too22:55
tsimonq2bug 139436023:24
ubot93Bug 1394360 in Lubuntu Next "juffed does not have an small icon show up in lxqt-config-file-assoication" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139436023:24

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