[18:31] <redwolf> sup
[18:31] <redwolf> tsimonq2, TIBERIO!! you there?
[21:03] <tsimonq2> redwolf: ALBERTO!
 YER!
[21:20] <tsimonq2> Whatchu want?
 a summary of what happened yesterday
 .__.
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Hmmmmmmmmm?
 something about kde or something. like about 224 messages
 .__.
[21:23] <tsimonq2> O__o
 dunno
 council? kde? mailing lists?
[21:26] <tsimonq2> I don't get it
 nevermind 😂
[21:31] <tsimonq2> That was in *my* channel...
 O___O
 I thought I read something about KDE. I'm nuts 😐
 @wxl23 @VikingRedwolf @julienlavergne https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001045.html
[22:40] <tsimonq2> lynorian: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001045.html
 I just want to make sure y'all see that
 thanks. we need to talk about the window manager issue. ob is not exactly maintained. and it's ugly af
 Ok
 So
 What do we use?
 dunno yet
 Fix it! .__.
 but I'm looking closely the project Lumina
 have a read: https://lumina-desktop.org/features/
 I don't recommend doing anything but ob or kwin since that's what devs are using
 Is lumina packaged?
 for bsd only, for now
 @wxl23, idk
 Yeah
 Yeah well f that
[22:45] <tsimonq2> !language @wxl23
 anyway they're using "old" wms now. the new wm is highly experimental. but it seems it's a clone of ob with wayland supprot
[22:45] <tsimonq2> !language | @wxl23
[22:45] <meetingology> ubot93: Error: "wxl23:" is not a valid command.
[22:45] <tsimonq2> XD
 we don't have many choices though
 It requires fluxbox
 for now, yes
 I wanted flux for Lubuntu in the beggining
 team voted for ob
 flux is simpler in config files and it support more advanced themes, but...
 democracy sucks :P
 @VikingRedwolf Now's your time to speak up :P
 I'm willing to give it a shot
 now I don't want to!
 Why? .__.
 it'll be complicated to change
 the session manager is "adapted" to work with ob
 Fwd from wxl: <wxl> yeah well it not being packages and being primarily targeted for bsd, that's probably an issue
 Fwd from wxl: <wxl> i always thought fluxbox was gtk
[22:48] <wxl> yes that thank you
 O.o fluxbox is just fluxbox. no gtk or qt
[22:49] <wxl> no no
[22:49] <wxl> it's one or the other
 Wayland? .__.
 @tsimonq2, I want The Hurd kernel for Lubuntu! ·_____·
[22:49] <wxl> omg
[22:49] <wxl> kick him please
 loll
 read diz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox#GTK_themes
 openbox does NOT use any gtk library
 themes are in a standalone folder
 and it works on many Qt based distros
 $ apt-cache show openbox
[22:52] <tsimonq2> Uh oh, did I break it? :P
[22:52] <wxl> um
[22:52] <Unit193> You really should know better...
[22:52] <wxl> then wtf is ob-qt?
[22:53] <tsimonq2> It's frontend
[22:53] <tsimonq2> Ob*conf*-Qt
 Fixed it :P
 Fwd from VikingRedwolf: That's our build
 Funny that kde session breaks menu 😂
 @tsimonq2, I mean Ubuntu's
[22:54] <wxl> of course we have a history of using ob
[22:54] <wxl> so who amongst the people fixing bugs and providing code want to make the switch?
 But many I'm afraid.
 Flux is old now too
[23:24] <tsimonq2> bug 1394360