[18:31] <redwolf> sup
[18:31] <redwolf> tsimonq2, TIBERIO!! you there?
[21:03] <tsimonq2> redwolf: ALBERTO!
[21:20] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> YER!
[21:20] <tsimonq2> Whatchu want?
[21:21] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> a summary of what happened yesterday
[21:21] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> .__.
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Hmmmmmmmmm?
[21:23] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> something about kde or something. like about 224 messages
[21:23] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> .__.
[21:23] <tsimonq2> O__o
[21:24] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> dunno
[21:24] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> council? kde? mailing lists?
[21:26] <tsimonq2> I don't get it
[21:31] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> nevermind 😂
[21:31] <tsimonq2> That was in *my* channel...
[21:36] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> O___O
[21:36] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> I thought I read something about KDE. I'm nuts 😐
[22:40] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl23 @VikingRedwolf @julienlavergne https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001045.html
[22:40] <tsimonq2> lynorian: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001045.html
[22:40] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I just want to make sure y'all see that
[22:41] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> thanks. we need to talk about the window manager issue. ob is not exactly maintained. and it's ugly af
[22:41] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ok
[22:41] <lubot> <tsimonq2> So
[22:41] <lubot> <tsimonq2> What do we use?
[22:41] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> dunno yet
[22:42] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fix it! .__.
[22:42] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> but I'm looking closely the project Lumina
[22:43] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> have a read: https://lumina-desktop.org/features/
[22:44] <lubot> <wxl23> I don't recommend doing anything but ob or kwin since that's what devs are using
[22:44] <lubot> <wxl23> Is lumina packaged?
[22:44] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> for bsd only, for now
[22:44] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl23, idk
[22:44] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Yeah
[22:44] <lubot> <wxl23> Yeah well f that
[22:45] <tsimonq2> !language @wxl23
[22:45] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> anyway they're using "old" wms now. the new wm is highly experimental. but it seems it's a clone of ob with wayland supprot
[22:45] <tsimonq2> !language | @wxl23
[22:45] <ubot93> @wxl23: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[22:45] <meetingology> ubot93: Error: "wxl23:" is not a valid command.
[22:45] <tsimonq2> XD
[22:45] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> we don't have many choices though
[22:45] <lubot> <wxl23> It requires fluxbox
[22:46] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> for now, yes
[22:46] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> I wanted flux for Lubuntu in the beggining
[22:46] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> team voted for ob
[22:47] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> flux is simpler in config files and it support more advanced themes, but...
[22:47] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> democracy sucks :P
[22:47] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Now's your time to speak up :P
[22:47] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'm willing to give it a shot
[22:47] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> now I don't want to!
[22:47] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Why? .__.
[22:47] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> it'll be complicated to change
[22:48] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> the session manager is "adapted" to work with ob
[22:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from wxl: <wxl> yeah well it not being packages and being primarily targeted for bsd, that's probably an issue
[22:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from wxl: <wxl> i always thought fluxbox was gtk
[22:48] <wxl> yes that thank you
[22:49] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> O.o fluxbox is just fluxbox. no gtk or qt
[22:49] <wxl> no no
[22:49] <wxl> it's one or the other
[22:49] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Wayland? .__.
[22:49] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, I want The Hurd kernel for Lubuntu! ·_____·
[22:49] <wxl> omg
[22:49] <wxl> kick him please
[22:50] <lubot> <tsimonq2> loll
[22:50] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> read diz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox#GTK_themes
[22:50] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> openbox does NOT use any gtk library
[22:51] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> themes are in a standalone folder
[22:51] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> and it works on many Qt based distros
[22:51] <lubot> <tsimonq2> $ apt-cache show openbox
[22:51] <lubot> Package: openbox
[22:51] <lubot> Priority: optional
[22:51] <lubot> Section: universe/x11
[22:51] <lubot> Installed-Size: 1169
[22:51] <lubot> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[22:51] <lubot> Original-Maintainer: Mateusz Łukasik <mati75@linuxmint.pl>
[22:51] <lubot> Architecture: amd64
[22:51] <lubot> Version: 3.6.1-4ubuntu1
[22:51] <lubot> Provides: x-session-manager, x-window-manager
[22:51] <lubot> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.35.9), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libobrender32v5 (>= 3.6.0), libobt2v5 (>= 3.6.0), libsm6, libstartup-notification0 (>= 0.7), libx11-6, libxau6, libxcursor1 (» 1.1.2), libxext6, libxi6 (>= 2:1.2.99.4), libxinerama1, libxrandr2
[22:51] <lubot> Recommends: obconf, python-xdg | obsession, scrot
[22:51] <lubot> Suggests: menu, fonts-dejavu, python, libxml2-dev, tint2, openbox-menu, openbox-gnome-session (= 3.6.1-4ubuntu1), openbox-kde-session (= 3.6.1-4ubuntu1)
[22:51] <lubot> Breaks: menu (« 2.1.12)
[22:52] <tsimonq2> Uh oh, did I break it? :P
[22:52] <wxl> um
[22:52] <Unit193> You really should know better...
[22:52] <wxl> then wtf is ob-qt?
[22:53] <tsimonq2> It's frontend
[22:53] <tsimonq2> Ob*conf*-Qt
[22:53] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fixed it :P
[22:53] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from VikingRedwolf: That's our build
[22:54] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> Funny that kde session breaks menu 😂
[22:54] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, I mean Ubuntu's
[22:54] <wxl> of course we have a history of using ob
[22:54] <wxl> so who amongst the people fixing bugs and providing code want to make the switch?
[22:55] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> But many I'm afraid.
[22:55] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> Flux is old now too
[23:24] <tsimonq2> bug 1394360
[23:24] <ubot93> Bug 1394360 in Lubuntu Next "juffed does not have an small icon show up in lxqt-config-file-assoication" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1394360