| webpigeon | is there anyone around? | 00:14 |
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| elky | it's easier to just wait this one out sadly | 00:15 |
| elky | he gets bored quick | 00:15 |
| webpigeon | they appear to have gone now | 00:15 |
| seednode | join #ubuntu-ops-team | 00:40 |
| seednode | ... I think my / key is broken | 00:41 |
| bazhang | seednode, need some assistance? | 01:35 |
| seednode | No, I'm just apparently not on my typing game tonight :( | 01:36 |
| bazhang | katoolin sounds like the mac themed ubuntu that you never come back from, or automatix | 10:33 |
| ikonia | it's sort of automatix to make ubuntu have kali tools | 10:33 |
| ikonia | it's really sloppy on the deps it pulls in | 10:33 |
| ikonia | and it doesn't respond to kali changes timely | 10:33 |
| bazhang | adds the kali 'tools' | 10:34 |
| bazhang | what tools does it contain the ubunt u repos do not | 10:34 |
| ikonia | it's some of the bleeding edge stuff around metaploit and stuff like that | 10:35 |
| ikonia | the problem is it also points at some of the kali repos which have some core conflicts too | 10:36 |
| ikonia | (against ubuntu) | 10:36 |
| bazhang | and suddenly huge problems | 10:36 |
| ikonia | and as kali make changes at a bigger impact but slower pace, and ubuntu is releasing every X months, it's not really maintained/planned properly | 10:36 |
| ikonia | it's broken quite a few peoples machines | 10:36 |
| bazhang | I see no recovery from that | 10:36 |
| ikonia | it's mostly around deps | 10:36 |
| bazhang | it's the want to be a cracker but cannot be bothered to get the so-called cracker distro | 10:37 |
| ikonia | most of the tools he'd want (I'd bet) are in the ubuntu repos just not the bleeding edge versions that kali ship | 10:40 |
| bazhang | so numbers chasing as well | 10:40 |
| ikonia | that seems to be the common reason to use the scripts as they want the "same as kali" rather than "the tools to do the job" | 10:41 |
| bazhang | he seems to very insistent on blaming ubuntu and not remaining on topic | 10:41 |
| ikonia | it's understanable, windows exe, install it, doesn't work / don't like it, remove it | 10:41 |
| ikonia | it's a totally different mind set | 10:42 |
| ikonia | normally a windows exe wouldn't touch the system files and doesn't pull in dependencies like a deb package does with different repos | 10:42 |
| ikonia | it's annoying that he won't listen that it's a different way of working | 10:42 |
| ikonia | but you can see how someone who is used to windows would be shocked how an ubuntu exe (from his point of view) broke his system | 10:43 |
| bazhang | I really have little sympathy after he has been told at least a dozen times 'not supported' | 10:43 |
| ikonia | no, I don't disagree | 10:44 |
| bazhang | he knows what needs to take place, there is no sort of 'hail mary ' last second stick save on this one | 10:44 |
| ikonia | he's gone from calling ubuntu, to "love ubuntu" in 90 seconds | 10:45 |
| bazhang | 3rd party ubuntu support overf the phone | 11:20 |
| bazhang | and he answers 'who knows' | 11:20 |
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