[00:14] is there anyone around? [00:15] it's easier to just wait this one out sadly [00:15] he gets bored quick [00:15] they appear to have gone now [00:40] join #ubuntu-ops-team [00:41] ... I think my / key is broken [01:35] seednode, need some assistance? [01:36] No, I'm just apparently not on my typing game tonight :( [10:33] katoolin sounds like the mac themed ubuntu that you never come back from, or automatix [10:33] it's sort of automatix to make ubuntu have kali tools [10:33] it's really sloppy on the deps it pulls in [10:33] and it doesn't respond to kali changes timely [10:34] adds the kali 'tools' [10:34] what tools does it contain the ubunt u repos do not [10:35] it's some of the bleeding edge stuff around metaploit and stuff like that [10:36] the problem is it also points at some of the kali repos which have some core conflicts too [10:36] (against ubuntu) [10:36] and suddenly huge problems [10:36] and as kali make changes at a bigger impact but slower pace, and ubuntu is releasing every X months, it's not really maintained/planned properly [10:36] it's broken quite a few peoples machines [10:36] I see no recovery from that [10:36] it's mostly around deps [10:37] it's the want to be a cracker but cannot be bothered to get the so-called cracker distro [10:40] most of the tools he'd want (I'd bet) are in the ubuntu repos just not the bleeding edge versions that kali ship [10:40] so numbers chasing as well [10:41] that seems to be the common reason to use the scripts as they want the "same as kali" rather than "the tools to do the job" [10:41] he seems to very insistent on blaming ubuntu and not remaining on topic [10:41] it's understanable, windows exe, install it, doesn't work / don't like it, remove it [10:42] it's a totally different mind set [10:42] normally a windows exe wouldn't touch the system files and doesn't pull in dependencies like a deb package does with different repos [10:42] it's annoying that he won't listen that it's a different way of working [10:43] but you can see how someone who is used to windows would be shocked how an ubuntu exe (from his point of view) broke his system [10:43] I really have little sympathy after he has been told at least a dozen times 'not supported' [10:44] no, I don't disagree [10:44] he knows what needs to take place, there is no sort of 'hail mary ' last second stick save on this one [10:45] he's gone from calling ubuntu, to "love ubuntu" in 90 seconds [11:20] 3rd party ubuntu support overf the phone [11:20] and he answers 'who knows'