[00:19] <EleanorEllis> Any suggestions for software to use another computer as a networked display?
[00:19] <CoderEurope> #ubuntu-uk has gone nutz, but its over now.....
[00:21] <Phanes> EleanorEllis, depends on use case
[00:22] <EleanorEllis> Phanes: I want to extend the desktop to a networked display as if it were an extra output on my local graphics card
[00:23] <Phanes> not really sure what youre getting at.  you'd need to build your own hardware for that.
[00:25] <Phanes> you're probably looking for VNC or xrdp/sessman but, uh, can't really tell by your description.
[00:26] <EleanorEllis> Phanes: I was thinking perhaps it might work by vnc or rdp yes. I vaguely remember some software that did this but I cant remember what it was called
[00:27] <Phanes> Xorg does this depending on your use case.
[00:27] <oerheks> xdmx or better synergy https://askubuntu.com/questions/136942/extend-desktop-to-monitor-over-lan
[00:30] <EleanorEllis> oerheks: Thanks. DMX was the software I was thinking of
[00:32] <CoderEurope> Happy Tynwald day from the Isle of Man ! o/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tynwald_Day
[00:33] <maxcell_> hi, i installed ubuntu recently and install gnome-shell. How do i completly remove unity from the system?
[00:37] <Phanes> lol
[00:38] <Phanes> maxcell_, what are you really trying to do
[00:40] <seednode> /part
[00:42] <maxcell_> Phanes, i want to remove unity
[00:42] <maxcell_> Phanes, i wont use it
[00:42] <maxcell_> Phanes, im a gnome guy
[00:43] <xangua> maxcell_: then why didn't you install Ubuntu gnome edition to begin with?
[00:43] <maxcell_> xangua, idk
[00:44] <maxcell_> xangua, but i dont mind, just want to completly purge unity
[00:44] <maxcell_> im on gnome already
[01:28] <fishcooker> i have deb package how to list the file will be copied after installation the deb file?
[01:31] <minimec> fishcooker: Example... These are the files that would be installed when installing the 'irssi' package on 16.04. https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/irssi/filelist
[01:34] <minimec> fishcooker: You could also open the file with the 'fileroller' or similar software for 'zipped' files and check the files in that software.
[01:34] <minimec> fishcooker: 'file-roller' ... ;)
[01:44] <spry7> Hi everyone, I need your help with a server/VPS question. I am setting up a VPS with Ubuntu 16.04 on DigitalOcean. I wish to be able to set it up as development server/permanent website. What I mean by this is setting up the server so that when you type in a the website it would go to the wordpress site that I wish to have setup (ex. https://mysite.com/). Now I wish to be able to setup this same site to host my projects. For example, i
[01:45] <spry7> "https://projects.mysite.com" it will show  a directory of all the project folders that I have setup
[01:45] <spry7> in the projects folder I wish to be able to have different projects from CMS site like wordpess to just php and html sites
[01:46] <spry7> I also wish to setup ssh and ftp to access the server
[01:46] <spry7> I just need some pointers on where to start at setting this up
[01:46] <Phanes> by making out a list of the things you want to do in simple terms, as tasks or goals, and then picking one and focusing on that.
[01:47] <Phanes> for instance, you want ssh and ftp.  is your VPS receiving ssh connections?
[01:48] <minimec> spry7: 'sudo apt install openssh-server' for ssh/sftp access
[01:49] <spry7> Phanes, I haven't set anything up quite yet. I am making sure that I get a road map for the most part taken care of first. I get the ssh and ftp things. I may not have been very clear on what I am looking for. My question is mainly regarding how the structure of the web server would be setup.
[01:51] <spry7> What I want is when you type in "mysite.com" you get the main wordpress site that I want, but when you type "projects.mysite.com" you see a directory with all the projects I have. From other wordpress sites to just html and php pages.
[01:54] <spry7> when I have done this in the past I have only been able to do one or the other. What I mean by this is that when I type "mysite.com" it will show just the wordpress site or it will show a directory of all folders. I haven't been able to figure out how to get it to work when the wordpress site shows with "mysite.com" and the directory is shown with "projects.mysite.com"
[01:54] <spry7> idk if it has to do with the initial setup or where I am going wrong with it
[01:57] <spry7> do you install wordpress into the root directory of the webserver and then just create a projects folder within that root folder and then some how redirect "projects.mysite.com" to /projects
[01:59] <spry7> or do you create a seperate the main wordpress site and projects folder and instead have two folders in the root directory so its more like /wordpress and /projects and at that point how do i say if I want "mysite.com" to be pointed at /wordpress and "projects.mysite.com" to be pointed at /projects
[02:02] <Phanes> spry7, this can all be done with DNS for your domain and the apache VirtualHost directive
[02:04] <spry7> Phanes: thank you so much. I will get to looking into this. Would you recommend having the projects folder within the main wordpress site or separating the two folder in the root directory?
[02:07] <Phanes> i would recommend separate directories for each virtualhost
[02:07] <Phanes> it'll be cleaner as you start putting stuff in it
[02:07] <Phanes> but this is a matter of taste
[02:08] <spry7> Phanes: you've been a great help. Thank you for your input
[02:41] <creamme> so many times, just phrasing my question here gets me to my answer!
[03:35] <swift110-phone> hey
[04:47] <EleanorEllis> In the terminal, how can I start a program and return to the terminal prompt without closing the program?
[04:49] <m4dh4tt4>  ./program &
[04:55] <SwedeMike> EleanorEllis: add & at the end. Then you can return to it using "fg" (foreground)
[04:55] <EleanorEllis> Thanks
[04:56] <SwedeMike> EleanorEllis: you can also look into "screen" or "tmux" which is a way to run multiple terminals in one
[05:09] <EleanorEllis> chromium-browser won't conntect to my system-wide proxy server
[05:10] <quantibility> EleanorEllis, what router are you using?
[05:11] <EleanorEllis> quantibility: I am just connecting to a wifi-hotspot.Chromium reports "No internet connection" whereas Firefox conencts to my proxy without any problem.
[05:12] <EleanorEllis> quantibility: So I don't have a router.
[05:14] <quantibility> EleanorEllis, hmmm, definitely something up with the Chromium settings.
[05:14] <EleanorEllis> quantibility: It's a fairly fresh install
[05:15] <quantibility> manually enter the IP addresses in the proxy settings?
[05:16] <EleanorEllis> quantibility: I get that, but I don't want to have to do that for every computer I support
[05:16] <quantibility> well if you had your own router you wouldn't have much of an issue.
[05:17] <quantibility> you may just have to enter manually, or set it to obtain automatically.. is that set?
[05:17] <EleanorEllis> quantibility: Indeed, but I am supporting laptops that are used away from base
[05:18] <quantibility> is this your network or a network that you can access at certain times of the day?
[05:18] <EleanorEllis> Wifi hotspots wherever they may be
[05:19] <quantibility> hmm
[05:19] <quantibility> hold on
[05:19] <quantibility> wait
[05:19] <quantibility> i have chrome, i don't believe that the same as Chromium..
[05:20] <EleanorEllis> I understand chrome has the same problem (from searching online)
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:47] <quantibility> morning
[05:51] <mintux> how to set http proxy on whole linux and all network traffic pass throw http proxy ? export https_proxy="http://localhost:8118" doesn't work
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !squid | mintux can this help?
[05:55] <_cc> mintux: you need to "export http_proxy="http://localhost:8118"" as well
[05:55] <_cc> https affects only https traffic
[05:55] <mintux> _cc: i tried this but doesn't work
[05:55] <_cc> what's your usecase, don't tell me chromium
[05:55] <_cc> chromium doesn't respect the setting
[05:56] <ngmvit> i am having some issue with no wifi and slow ethernet. When power adapter is plugged in the connection on ethernet is very slow else it works fine. And wifi although list the available wifi devices and connects successfully, fails to load a page. And the discussion on this is available here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365140&page=2
[05:56] <mintux> _cc: if it works when i use linx or elinks and open cmyip.com it should show my proxy server ip
[05:56] <mintux> _cc: no i need it for android studio
[05:56] <ngmvit>  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365140&page=1
[05:58] <_cc> mintux: if you open up a terminal and export those two settings, and then try out lynx/wget, does it work then?
[05:58] <_cc> that export isn't permanent
[05:59] <mintux> _cc: i did this: export http_proxy="http://localhost:8118"; elinks cmyip.com
[06:05] <EleanorEllis> _cc: I am also having problems with chromium-browser not obeying the system-wide proxy, or rather it won't connect at all once I define a system-wide proxy
[06:07] <_cc> EleanorEllis: yeah, I saw somebody filed a bug about it, but it was closed
[06:07] <EleanorEllis> _cc: So it still doesn't work?
[06:07] <_cc> I don't think so
[06:07] <_cc> they wont fix it because apparently a browser shouldn't need to resolve between system-wide and brosers own settings
[06:09] <EleanorEllis> _cc: That's pants! Firefox respects the system wide proxy. I wonder how they expect system admins to deploy chrome on a large scale if it won't obey something simple like that
[06:09] <EleanorEllis> _cc: I find it hard to believe that every business using chrome has to edit the startup command for chrome on every machine!
[06:19] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[06:20] <laceylaney> Anyone here tried Icaros os before ??
[06:21] <laceylaney> HI
[06:21] <laceylaney> exit
[06:23] <laceylaney> HI ^^*
[06:25] <laceylaney> Anyone here able to help me with my wifi. No ma
[06:29] <laceylaney> No matter what ubuntu distro I run I have poor wifi
[06:29] <laceylaney> Here is a link to a wifi script I run >> paste.ubuntu.com/25018380
[06:30] <laceylaney> Currently running minimal xubuntu from a mini.iso net-install
[06:31] <EleanorEllis> laceylaney: Do you get good wifi with the same hardware on any other operating system?
[06:32] <ngmvit> can anyone help me out with slow ethernet and no wifi, here is the post with details  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365140
[06:34] <kaili> Hello, where can I see at what date was this linux kernel version pushed in the repo ? https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-headers-4.4.0-81
[06:35] <kaili> There is no date in the changelog...
[06:35] <kaili> Oh yes there is my bad, nevermind :-)
[06:36] <kaili> linux (4.4.0-81.104) xenial; urgency=low  -- Stefan Bader <stefan.bader@canonical.com>  Thu, 08 Jun 2017 15:19:41 +0200
[06:52] <EleanorEllis> I am trying to install displaylink drivers but the script appears to be in some unsupported character type
[06:53] <EleanorEllis> ^^ displaylink driver for ubuntu is here http://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu
[06:54] <EleanorEllis> ^^ instructions for installing displaylink driver are here http://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/615714#ubuntu
[06:55] <EleanorEllis> When I try to install the displaylink driver I get "Permission denied", even after changing the permissions as detailed in the instructions and even when I use sudo
[06:57] <EleanorEllis> Here is the output from ls -l displaylink-driver-1.3.54.run "-rwxrwxr-x 1 eleanor eleanor 13096773 Jun 12 12:29 displaylink-driver-1.3.54.run"
[06:58] <laceylaney> EleanorEllis: do you get any erros appearing on screen or just permission denied ??
[07:02] <EleanorEllis> laceylaney: https://pastebin.com/sANY4eYm
[07:03] <EleanorEllis> laceylaney: When I try to cat the script, I get lots of strange characters so I suspect I don't have the correct character encoding installed
[07:04] <EleanorEllis> laceylaney: When I try to open displaylink-driver-1.3.54.run in gedit it appears not to be utf8
[07:07] <laceylaney> EleanorEllis: I'm not sure if the character formatting would be the cause of any errors, though if you wanted you could check the formatting and see if your terminal supports it.
[07:07] <EleanorEllis> laceylaney: When I cat the script in the terminal, it displays strange characters
[07:08] <laceylaney> Then your terminal defo doesn't have support for those characters. I'm pretty sure you could add support for them....
[07:09] <EleanorEllis> laceylaney: I imagine the script was created in windows. What character encoding should I install?
[07:10] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: whats the output of file thefile.run
[07:10] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: ​https://pastebin.com/sANY4eYm
[07:11] <Ben64> something up with your link there
[07:13] <laceylaney> Hmmm I'm not sure. You can google character encoding checker and find out the exact one that way.
[07:13] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: The link works on my machine
[07:14] <laceylaney> Link works for me too...
[07:15] <Ben64> anyway, thats not what i asked for
[07:15] <laceylaney> The link is a paste of the output...
[07:16] <laceylaney> not what you asked for ??
 EleanorEllis: whats the output of file thefile.run
[07:17] <laceylaney> Ben64: Open the link that she posted. It shows the output of that file....
[07:17] <Ben64> right but that isn't what i asked for
[07:18] <Ben64> let me make it more clear i guess... "file displaylink-driver-1.3.54.run"
[07:18] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: displaylink-driver-1.3.54.run: POSIX shell script executable (binary data)
[07:18] <laceylaney> Ahh right you want the actual file haha
[07:20] <Ben64> does displaylink-installer.sh disappear after it fails
[07:21] <laceylaney> afk - brb
[07:21] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: displaylink-installer.sh never appears
[07:22] <Ben64> cool, then you should contact displaylink or try it on another system
[07:23] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Thing is the previous version has the same issue and I did successfully install this on a previous installation of ubuntu, so I have screwed something up on the present incarnation
[07:30] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Since the terminal can't display the characters in the script, I suspect I don't have the right character set installed. I suspect the file was created on a windows machine with english language installed
[07:30] <Ben64> nah
[07:30] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Because previously I would have been able to read the script
[07:31] <Ben64> you don't need to read it
[07:32] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: If I can read the script then I could have a hope of debugging it, by checking what it is trying to access
[07:33] <Ben64> head thefile.run
[07:34] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: https://pastebin.com/DkX9AuV1
[07:35] <debouncer> is there any problem with ubuntu repositories? When I type "sudo apt-get update" on console, it returns me fetch errors such as "Failed to fetch http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease"
[07:37] <debouncer> or is something wrong with my system?
[07:39] <debouncer> These are error messages https://pastebin.com/WLBQRvbT
[07:41] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: I just need to restart my machine. I will ping you after restart
[07:46] <debouncer> I think there is a problem in turkey server. When I changed it to main server, it started to work
[07:47] <glitsj16> debouncer: you can check the status of your mirror at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[07:50] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: I'm back. Did you manage to identify the character set?
[07:56] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: that's not the problem, you can read it fine
[07:56] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: But I can't read it. gedit complains that it is not utf8
[07:57] <Ben64> so don't use gedit
[07:57] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Neither can I open it in any other text editor, nor CAT it in terminal
[07:58] <Ben64> head worked, so it works
[07:59] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: I need to read it, so I can try to find out where it is going wrong
[07:59] <Ben64> go for it
[08:00] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: So I am trying to find out how to install the character set for western windows and failing to find it
[08:00] <Ben64> nope
[08:00] <Ben64> you're going about it all wrong. you can already read it, head proved it
[08:01] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: So how would you do it then?
[08:01] <Ben64> i wouldn't get a device that isn't supported by the kernel
[08:02] <reBrain> anyone can help with playonlinux? I can't install wineasio, it says I need jack, I installed jack and it still says I need jack
[08:02] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Fair enough, but I am where I am at and I need to get it working. How can I debug the script if all I can see is junk characters?
[08:03] <Ben64> EleanorEllis: but you can see normal characters, head proved it
[08:03] <EleanorEllis> Ben64: Can you try opening the file and then you will see what I mean?
[08:03] <Ben64> works fine
[08:07] <sirru5h> (file -i  filename will get the encoding )
[08:54] <Bluewolf> Hi all. I want to set a custom command to a key on my keyboard to set my computer to sleep - Anyone know the command I can use to put into my custom keyboard shorcuts in settings?
[08:58] <diskin> Bluewolf, try pm-suspend
[08:59] <Bluewolf> diskin: Doesn't seem to work
[09:02] <glitsj16> Bluewolf: what version of ubuntu are you on? And are you looking for suspend to RAM or suspend to disk?
[09:02] <minimec> Bluewolf: Hi. I guess you are the bluewolf that left me a message two days ago. Hope you got your graphics problem solved.
[09:02] <minimec> Bluewolf: For suspend... https://askubuntu.com/a/1795
[09:04] <Bluewolf> minimec: Hi. The one and the only. Yes I resolved my graphics problem, apologies for not adding that to the message.
[09:04] <Bluewolf> I am running Ubuntu 16.04 Gnome
[09:05] <glitsj16> Bluewolf: 16.04 uses systemd, so either 'systemctl suspend' or 'systemctl hibernate' should do what you're after
[09:52] <supremum> This man page does not describe the command language; see the ld
[09:52] <supremum>        entry in "info" for full details on the command language and on
[09:52] <supremum>        other aspects of the GNU linker.
[09:53] <supremum> But when i try   info ld   i get the man page, containing the same comment
[09:54] <EleanorEllis> Why does sudo killall chromium-browser not find any running process even though chromium is running?
[09:56] <_cc> typo perhaps?
[09:59] <Halleluia> hi everyone.
[10:00] <Halleluia> please i cannot log into my PC... It shows plain after inputting my PC password
[10:03] <Halleluia> please i cannot log into my PC... It shows plain after inputting my PC password
[10:03] <Halleluia> hello!
[10:04] <EleanorEllis> !patience
[10:05] <minimec> Halleluia: We would need a little bit more information from your part. So when you boot your computer you get the normal login screen right?
[10:06] <minimec> Halleluia: What did you change on your system before the problem appeared. Did you do a system update?
[10:07] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro
[10:11] <Bluewolf> minimec: glitsj16: Sorry for the late response. I got the keyboard shortcut working, thank you both for the help.
[10:11] <glitsj16> Bluewolf: that's quite allright, nice to see you have it working
[10:13] <minimec> Bluewolf: Cool. I don't like these kind of shortcut, because it could happen to me accidentally suspend my computer... Bad! (as the donald would say)
[10:14] <sary> Halleluia: are you able to log in as guest!
[10:15] <Bluewolf> minimec: Yeah that has happened to me in the past. But I find it really useful for suspending my desktop, when I need to dash off for twenty minutes. The next question now is which is the better on to use, suspend of Hybernate. I've used both in the past.
[10:15] <sebsebseb> hi
[10:17] <minimec> Bluewolf: Well... For hibernation you would at least need a swapt file/partition as big as your RAM, which in my case with 16GB RAM is wasted disk space, if you ask me
[10:20] <Bluewolf> minimec: I know :D
[10:20] <Bluewolf> But I think I will stick with the suspend (Its quicker and saves that precious 4GB of my 1TB) :P
[10:20] <Bluewolf> I can always change it later if need be. Thanks again :y:
 Halleluia: We would need a little bit more information from your part. So when you boot your computer you get the normal login screen right?  YES
[10:24] <minimec> Halleluia: What did you change on your system before the problem appeared. Did you do a system update?
 Halleluia: What did you change on your system before the problem appeared. Did you do a system update? I installed all KALI tools using katoolin
[10:24] <IronSnout> join #linux
[10:25] <bazhang> !info katoolin
 Halleluia: are you able to log in as guest! didn't try
[10:25] <bazhang> where is katoolin from
 Halleluia: What did you change on your system before the problem appeared. Did you do a system update? YES and I installed all kali tools using katoolin
[10:26] <bazhang> Halleluia, where is katoolin from
[10:27] <minimec> Halleluia: I got that. Did you use a script to install these tools or a ppa repository?
[10:27] <Halleluia> minimec I used katoolin
[10:27] <bazhang> Halleluia, yes we know
[10:27] <bazhang> Halleluia, where did you get katoolin
[10:28] <Halleluia> https://askubuntu.com/questions/772495/proper-installation-of-kali-linux-tools-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[10:29] <bazhang> Halleluia, is that some third party script or PPA
[10:29] <Ben64> yeah it's awful
[10:29] <Ben64> seen a few people here that had a messed up system from that
[10:30] <bazhang> Halleluia, thats not an ubuntu issue, you need to contact the makers
[10:31] <Halleluia> bazhang its an ubuntu issue... All tools works then I restarted ... it shows my lock screen and working well but when i enter my password it gets stuck
[10:31] <ikonia> Halleluia: it's not
[10:31] <ikonia> Halleluia: you have used a 3rd party script that pulls 3rd party software from untrusted repos on
[10:31] <ikonia> this has broken your install
[10:31] <bazhang> Halleluia, using some 3rd scripts?PPA and you have problems, thats not an ubuntu issue at all
[10:31] <ikonia> the people who maintain the 3rd party installer tool/repos will need to help you debug and undo (if possible) what this does
[10:32] <Halleluia> hasn't... by the way, i only need to see my full destop. so how do i edit something to see my desktop
[10:32] <ikonia> Halleluia: you don't
[10:32] <bazhang> Halleluia, it's not a channel support issue here
[10:32] <Halleluia> seen! minimec
[10:33] <Halleluia> minimec
[10:33] <Halleluia> what do you guys espect/advice i do then
[10:33] <Halleluia> reinstall. start all over or contact who pls
[10:34] <bazhang> Halleluia, so please contact the maintaines, we dont support that
[10:34] <ikonia> Halleluia: a clean ubuntu install and not-using that tool would be a good approach
[10:34] <minimec> Halleluia: Tere is one thing you could do. Install 'pastebinit' on the console and do 'journalctl -b | pastebinit', and paste the link you get here. You will probably have some error message in that log that might help you or us.
[10:34] <Halleluia> i'm on windows now minimec
[10:35] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: Did you backup before this problem?
[10:36] <Halleluia> EleanorEllis No
[10:36] <beefjoe> Loading websites sometimes hangs a bit until it's loaded, specially Facebook for example. did a speedtest, not able to get upload speed but the ping and download speed are great. this is happening on my laptop Ubuntu only, all other devices are okay. any ideas ?
[10:36] <minimec> Halleluia: Obviously that wount help us to debug your problem either. We cannot help you if the system that has problems is not even booted.
[10:37] <Halleluia> ubuntu won't load my desktop. it gets stuck after i input my lock screen password
[10:37] <sary> Halleluia: I would CTRL+ALT+F1 log in, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME , CTRL+ALT+F7 and try to log in!
[10:37] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: In that case you will probably have to reinstall. Sorry, but you have not helped yourself. I've been there and learnt the hard way
[10:38] <Ben64> and next time try to avoid 3rd party repositories and running random scripts you find online
[10:38] <sary> Might as wll add a new user and login from it!
[10:38] <Halleluia> this is why I never liked anything linux... little problem and u reinstall... HISED
[10:38] <Halleluia> HISSED AGAIN
[10:38] <bazhang> Halleluia, thats all on you, no need to complain like that
[10:39] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: I've had little problems on windows that couldn't be solved without a reinstall.
[10:39] <Halleluia> why wont I
[10:39] <bazhang> Halleluia, please stop the random hissing here
[10:39] <Halleluia> there's always a way in windows
[10:39] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: This is not particular to linux, it's a problem with installing untrusted software.
[10:39] <bazhang> Halleluia, nothing short of a full reinstall is going to help out here
 Halleluia: I've had little problems on windows that couldn't be solved without a reinstall. what? you didn't look into it well enough
[10:40] <Halleluia> just like i'm doing now
[10:40] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: If you had installed something dodgy on windows which broke your system, you would be in the same position.
[10:40] <Ben64> it's just not worth it to try to fix whatever that random script did
[10:41] <Halleluia> be back... let me try to reboot ubuntu maybe... who knows...
[10:41] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: Some years ago my windows printing system became corrupted. Unfortunately I didnt have a backup. I tried everything in the MS Knowledge Base but nothing worked. Eventually I had no option but to reinstall windows. That was when I quit windows and started with linux.
[10:41] <ikonia> Halleluia: we can't support your ubuntu install
[10:41] <ikonia> Halleluia: sorry,
[10:41] <ikonia> Halleluia: you need to get it back to a stable state
[10:41] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: The golden rule is you must have backups.
[10:42] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: As to your comment "what? you didn't look into it well enough", well I think you have hit the nail on the head as to what has caused your problem.
[10:43] <Halleluia> yes
[10:43] <Halleluia> be back friends. and thanks. Love linux(ubuntu) but these problems keeps me bay... Always!
[10:44] <EleanorEllis> Unfortunately you didn't look into it well enough before breaking your system, and because you didnt backup you now have nowhere to go
[10:44] <Halleluia> lol
[10:44] <Halleluia> truth but painful
[10:45] <Halleluia> but really i thought my problem was with xorg or so
[10:45] <EleanorEllis> Halleluia: And if you broke your windows box you probably wouldn't have an irc channel to ask questions of but would have to pay someone to fix it. We are all volunteers here. You can buy support from Canonical if you want professional support.
[10:45] <beefjoe> Loading websites sometimes hangs a bit until it's loaded, specially Facebook for example. did a speedtest, not able to get upload speed but the ping and download speed are great. this is happening on my laptop Ubuntu only, all other devices are okay. any ideas ?
[10:46] <bazhang> beefjoe, lags a bit?
[10:47] <Halleluia> EleanorEllis i thought my problem was with xorg or so
[10:47] <bazhang> beefjoe, is this on both the flash and non flash sites?
[10:47] <beefjoe> bazhang, keeps loading..doesn't timeout but yea lags
[10:47] <bazhang> Halleluia, please take the chit chat to the offtopic channel
[10:47] <bazhang> beefjoe, on both flash and non flash testing sites?
 Halleluia, please take the chit chat to the offtopic channel.. Yes sir
[10:49] <beefjoe> bazhang happens mostly on sites like youtube,facebook and imgur but can happen anywhere else
[10:49] <beefjoe> so probably yes?
[10:49] <beefjoe> Not sure if it's related, no
[10:49] <bazhang> beefjoe, so did you go to the speedtest sites and check yet
[10:50] <beefjoe> yea I get 9ms ping 50mbps download but gets stuck on upload
[10:50] <beefjoe> same thing on speedtest html5 version
[10:50] <beefjoe> gives me this http://i.imgur.com/ynwyAIh.png
[10:50] <bazhang> beefjoe, with multiple testing points, both flash and non flash?
[10:50] <beefjoe> yep
[10:51] <bazhang> beefjoe, you can choose to test from multiple locations
[10:52] <beefjoe> bazhang, yea I tried it and tried other services not only speedtest.net
[10:52] <beefjoe> and one guy suggested for me to move to Google's DNS..so I did but nothing changed
[10:52] <bazhang> beefjoe, and no issues there, correct?
[10:52] <beefjoe> bazhang same issue on all of them
[10:53] <bazhang> beefjoe, same as on fb yt and the rest? from the actual speedtest site?
[10:53] <beefjoe> what do you mean
[10:54] <bazhang> the speedtest site indicated problems or not
[10:55] <beefjoe> yes when it comes to testing the upload speed
[10:55] <bazhang> so the bottleneck sounds like from the fb and yt sites
[10:56] <bazhang> unless you mean the youtube lag is with uploads
[10:57] <beefjoe> no it's not with uploads..although I can barely upload anything anywhere
[10:57] <beefjoe> because of the poor upload speed for some reason..
[10:57] <bazhang> beefjoe, how much of a lag are we talking about here
[10:58] <beefjoe> so firefox shows it's loading..keeps loading with a blank page
[10:58] <beefjoe> if I hit refresh
[10:58] <beefjoe> it gets load instantly
[10:58] <beefjoe> otherwise would have to wait...keeps lagging...and might open up eventually
[10:59] <beefjoe> so a refresh usually loads it up fast specially on youtube
[10:59] <bazhang> whats the actual lag time there beefjoe
[10:59] <bazhang> a few seconds, several minutes or what
[11:01] <beefjoe> around 15 seconds
[11:02] <bazhang> beefjoe, do you have firefox clear its cache upon quitting or not
[11:02] <blackadder1337> is it possible to find all files that have 'something' in the name in a folder and copy them to another folder?
[11:02] <beefjoe> no I don't, but this happens on chromium as well
[11:02] <blackadder1337> ubuntu xfce
[11:03] <bazhang> whats the ram on that maching beefjoe
[11:03] <bazhang> machine
[11:03] <beefjoe> 8GB
[11:03] <bazhang> beefjoe, so why not try cleaing the cache upon quit, to troubleshoot that way, for starters
[11:04] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[11:04] <Starcraftmazter> my friend did something on his ubuntu (specifically uninstalled bluetooth, pulseaudio and pulseaudio-bluetooth) and now his networking doesnt work.
[11:04] <Starcraftmazter> its a laptop, only wifi, no ethernet
[11:05] <beefjoe> bazhang, but why do you think the upload speed is so low ?
[11:05] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, why not have your friend join here so he can get help directly
[11:05] <Starcraftmazter> bazhang: i would if he had internet connectivity
[11:06] <beefjoe> if I reconnect I get an upload speed of 0.01 mbps for like ten seconds then goes null again
[11:06] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, it's going to be difficult to ask him to run commands and get error s otherwise
[11:06] <Starcraftmazter> bazhang: just tell me, ill tell him (im on a call)
[11:07] <bazhang> beefjoe, did you first try the clear cache thing with firefox
[11:09] <beefjoe> bazhang, I have just now
[11:09] <bazhang> beefjoe, so lets try the various lag sites, not refresh
[11:10] <Starcraftmazter> anyone?
[11:11] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, how will you be relaying the various messages to and fro
[11:11] <beefjoe> bazhang, still exists..for example on fb when I clock on notifications and the little window appears loading..forever..
[11:11] <beefjoe> and upload test still gives error
[11:11] <Starcraftmazter> bazhang: by phone
[11:12] <sary> beefjoe: this might your issue, the solution starts at the " End update " section in: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2017/04/ubuntu-17-04-systemd-dns-issues/
[11:12] <bazhang> beefjoe, forever as in ten-fifteen seconds?
[11:12] <beefjoe> yep
[11:13] <bazhang> beefjoe, sounds like a bottleneck on the fb site
[11:13] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, first have him tell us what he did just prior to having issues
[11:14] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, then tell him to remove the offending packages
[11:14] <Starcraftmazter> bazhang: what are the offending packages?
[11:14] <_cc> I think bazhang probably misread
[11:14] <Starcraftmazter> i think the problem is because he removed something he shouldn't have - not installed something
[11:14] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, how can we know that without you asking him
[11:14] <Starcraftmazter> he didnt install anything
[11:14] <Starcraftmazter> i did
[11:14] <Starcraftmazter> he showed me a screenshot
[11:14] <Starcraftmazter> and i relayed
[11:15] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, then ask him what it was
[11:15] <beefjoe> bazhang, bottleneck ? :O
[11:15] <bazhang> beefjoe, sure, they are a high traffic site, as compared to something on your own lan game
[11:16] <Starcraftmazter> >specifically uninstalled bluetooth, pulseaudio and pulseaudio-bluetooth)
[11:16] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, whyever would he uninstall pulseaudio
[11:17] <Starcraftmazter> who knows
[11:17] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, you need to ask him
[11:17] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, please do so
[11:17] <_cc> :D
[11:18] <Starcraftmazter> bazhang: well i know, he was trying to get bluetooth to work. I don't think it was a smart idea
[11:19] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, so have reverse whatever it was he did do, and give us a full pastebin on the exact errors he is getting
[11:21] <Starcraftmazter> i think he uninstalled network manager
[11:22] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, again we need the entirety of what he did and did not do, the exact errors in a pastebin
[11:22] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, guess work over the phone is not going to get it done
[11:23] <Starcraftmazter> nah already solved m8
[11:23] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, that means the entirety of what he did remove
[11:23] <Starcraftmazter> basically he removed network-manager package
[11:24] <bazhang> Starcraftmazter, so reinstalling it and all his issues are gone?
[11:25] <Starcraftmazter> i said he should boot to livecd, mount his drive, chroot and then install network manager
[11:26] <ioria> he can set /etc/network/interfaces, get connectivity, and reinstall de and NM
[11:27] <zeekhuge> so the netstat -nplt output like this "tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:1337          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -         "  does mean that its also listenting for the trafic from public IP . isnt it ?
[11:28] <Starcraftmazter> ioria: how can that be done for wifi?
[11:29] <ioria> Starcraftmazter, with wpasupplicant (if installed) or with nmtui
[11:32] <ioria> Starcraftmazter, if he is not familiar with that, and he is with livecd chroot, would be easier the second, btw
[11:33] <zeekhuge> if yes, there are many application on my system that are doing this. I think they just want to talk to each other (and hence bind to only localhost) but their is some problem in the config. How can I fix this ?
[11:34] <zeekhuge> this above output was related to docker.
[11:34] <Starcraftmazter> ioria: ok thanks
[11:34] <ioria> Starcraftmazter, ok
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:58] <Swey_Hey> Am I the only one who is upset that Unity is going to be canned?
[12:05] <akik> Swey_Hey: no, you're not. why do you think that?
[12:06] <Swey_Hey> akik: Because Unity gets heaps of hate
[12:06] <Swey_Hey> I can't STAND Gnome
[12:07] <Swey_Hey> It makes me feel a little sick
[12:08] <jntme> hey ho
[12:08] <tsglove2> o/
[12:09] <jntme> question: when I deactivate password authentication over ssh and I loose my laptop with my private key on it, I'll never be able to login again don't I?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Swey_Hey, there's always KDE/Plasma
[12:13] <Swey_Hey> BluesKaj, I don't like KDE either. Unity was my favorite. XFCE is the only DE I can stand
[12:15] <ioria> !info budgie-desktop | Swey_Hey
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Swey_Hey,  you've severely limited your options, time try some other DE's and give them chance before making a definite choice
[12:16] <Swey_Hey> BluesKaj: I know. I am using Cinnamon on Linux Mint and it's not to bad.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> !mint
[12:16] <sary> I prefer GNOME. never liked unity! You still have the Freedom of choice with LXQt , Enlightenment.
[12:16] <Swey_Hey> Maybe someone will fork Unity and keep it alive
[12:18] <ioria> Swey_Hey, https://yunit.io/
[12:19] <sipior> jntme: no, because you'll fetch your key from the backups you're always making :-) you can then use that key to push a replacement into place.
[12:19] <jntme> sipior: I see - so I'd be better off with those backups.. :D
[12:20] <Swey_Hey> ioria: Excellent! 18k commits as well. I would contribute, but I don't think they would have much use for a Java programmer
[12:20] <ioria> Swey_Hey,  likely... but why not ?
[12:20] <Swey_Hey> ioria: Because Java is not typically used in DE
[12:21] <ioria> yep
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Swey_Hey, ask in #linuxmint
[12:21] <Swey_Hey> BluesKaj: Ask what in #linuxmint?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> about DE's for mint
[12:22] <BluesKaj> this is ubuntu support , read the bot's message above
[12:25] <Swey_Hey> BluesKaj: Oh come on, I just mentioned Linux Mint, I wasn't going in depth about it
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Swey_Hey, as the saying goes," them's the rules"
[12:27] <Swey_Hey> Stupid rules
[12:31] <freakyy> hi all im having a problem with my ubuntu 17.04 installation. specifically grub. on boot, when it boots up a selection or when i rpess enter the screen is "faded out" like from the bottom to the top slowly. id like to have it instant continue booting not first do a 2 seconds animation. i have a video here: https://goo.gl/photos/aNcBZyse9VGbt5Mg7 - just look at the bottom how it "scrolls" up like as if it was
[12:31] <freakyy> rebuilding up the screen or something but really slowly
[12:32] <freakyy> can anyone help me fix that?
[12:36] <ioria> freakyy, your video card ?
[12:37] <freakyy> Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050Ti
[12:38] <freakyy> ioria :)
[12:38] <ioria> freakyy, using proprietary nvidia driver  ?
[12:39] <freakyy> ioria: yes but i dont think its loaded at boot when grub is displayed
[12:39] <ioria> yep
[12:40] <freakyy> can u help me?
[12:41] <freakyy> it was like that without proprietary drivers aswell
[12:42] <ioria> freakyy,  maybe a resolution problem
[12:43] <freakyy> hm ok i dont know how to fix it
[12:43] <ioria> freakyy, or this https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=195567
[12:44] <ioria> freakyy, looks like your issue
[12:45] <freakyy> hm ok thanks
[12:46] <BluesKaj> freakyy, install nvidia-381.22 driver
[12:47] <freakyy> BluesKaj: that driver isnt loaded at boot when grub is loaded that makes no sense
[12:47] <freakyy> i have to go now sorry but i will read later what u wrote
[12:54] <revmoo> I'm setting up a kiosk and need to alter my window manager flags. Where does ubuntu (14.04) store configs for window manager startup?
[13:31] <groklinux> good morning all...have a box running 16.10. All seems fine but the last two days in a row, I've come back in the morning to a system that's rebooted. I've checked kern.log and syslog but neither complain about something failing/crashing right before you see it start outputting normal startup messages. I don't believe it's electrical as I have other boxes in the same room and all seem fine. Any suggestions as to where else I could look to figure it out
[13:31] <groklinux> would be greatly appreciated!
[14:07] <sary> groklinux: It's important to understand that Ubuntu does not magically reboot itself under normal conditions. By default, Ubuntu will merely notify you that a human needs to reboot the system. This only happens as part of a kernel upgrade.
[14:08] <compdoc> I dont know about sary, but my Ubuntu IS magic!
[14:08] <sary> groklinux: Lesser causes like a crash or memfault are likely to freeze or crash your system, but not reboot it. There are several ways for a program to trigger a reboot...all leave plenty of information in the logs.
[14:09] <sary> compdoc: it's not me, groklinux stated that they had random reboots!
[14:09] <groklinux> sary: and other than coming in both mornings to find that it had rebooted, the system *appears* to be perfectly fine. there's nothing too demanding being run on it.
[14:10] <oerheks> groklinux, a powerdip can cause that too
[14:10] <groklinux> sary: i was hoping that you'd have some magical log file location i may look at that would show something...i even went through auth lol
[14:11] <oerheks> journalctl -b -0 # this will tell the time when it happened
[14:11] <groklinux> oerheks: yeah but it's in the same room as a bunch of other boxes, all seem fine...no issues/reboots/etc. it is on a different outlet though.
[14:12] <jk0ne> groklinux: you can try: journalctl -S 2017-07-04 - which should show you a lot of log information right up to your reboot time, assuming your reboot time actually happened yesterday and not at 3am... but there's more in journalctl than is in the actual log files.... so you might find a clue there.
[14:12] <oerheks> only overheating is the other cause that comes in mind.
[14:13] <oerheks> * that would show up in dmesg too
[14:13] <groklinux> i'll dig through there...both Monday's reboot and yesterday's happened at different times. i'll try and dig through and see. oh good point about overheating.
[14:13] <jk0ne> There is a skylake/kabylake intel bug that could cause that I suppose... if your processor is one of those.  Unlikely but possible.
[14:14] <l2y> does ubuntu 14.04 lts contain upstart?
[14:14] <oerheks> l2y, yes
[14:15] <l2y> how do I test for upstart? I can test for systemd with "systemd --version" return value, can I do "upstart --version"?
[14:15] <l2y> oh, I mean systemctl*
[14:16] <sary> groklinux: you should be looking in : kern.log.1* , syslog.1* , dpkg.log.1* the same for with auth.log.1 #If it was a software issue, there would definitely be something in the logs!
[14:17] <l2y> oerheks: "initctl version" will show any init, right?
[14:17] <oerheks> apt-cache policy upstart # would show the version
[14:17] <oerheks> initctl can show the version too, indeed
[14:17] <l2y> but it won't test for upstart specifically
[14:18] <l2y> and if I run "systemctl --version" on such system, will it return zero? If I'm correct, systemd is also present on 14.04
[14:18] <groklinux> sary: ahh ok...i did go through all of those but not the .1's...just the current versions...but they all contained data from the event yesterday. nothing crazy showing up...just all show normal startup messages all beginning at the same time. (nothing out of the ordinary preceding them)...i'll go dig through the .1's now though. thanks!
[14:19] <oerheks> l2y, no, systemd comes later, 15.04 IIRC
[14:21] <l2y> oerheks: thanks, almost correct, this is what google told me https://askubuntu.com/questions/490946/is-ubuntu-14-04-using-systemd
[14:22] <sary> groklinux: also worht testing if this occur running different kernel version!
[14:22] <sary> err, *worth.
[14:22] <Jakethepython> what is the easiest way to install Ubuntu via Network i have always done from Live CD or USB
[14:24] <oerheks> "almost correct"?  it is totally correct, get your facts right...
[14:25] <oerheks> Jakethepython, pxe boot
[14:27] <sary> Jakethepython: you're looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server_and_network_installations
[14:27] <ioria> Jakethepython, have you solved your grub/raid error  (i hope so) ?
[14:28] <oerheks> Jakethepython, the only question is, do you have UEFI or regular bios
[14:28] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/PXE-netboot-install for uefi
[14:29] <Jakethepython> Ioria: the issue was a FakeRaid issue
[14:29] <Jakethepython> so now i need to do a reinstall of the system :(
[14:30] <ioria> Jakethepython, well, yes
[14:30] <Jakethepython> but it's solved
[14:30] <Jakethepython> so now i was hoping to reinstall over the network
[14:30] <Jakethepython> because i don't have a writable DvD or big enough USB stick here :(
[14:31] <ioria> Jakethepython, mini.iso from grub
[14:32] <ioria> Jakethepython,  you can edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom, or use grub-imageboot
[14:37] <Assid> hi
[14:37] <Assid> so i have 17.04 installed and am tyring to get  ejabberd working .. however.. i keep getting an error Error, do this: mount -t proc proc /proc
[14:38] <Assid> i was getting another error as well, which was solved by fixing the apparomor  bug for ejabberd
[14:39] <Jakethepython> ioria: what is grub-imageboot?
[14:39] <ioria> !info grub-imageboot
[14:40] <Jakethepython> ok so just put the .iso on a usb
[14:40] <Jakethepython> don't write the entire iso
[14:40] <freakyy> hey guys, how do u get a  hostmaks like ubuntu/member/freakyy
[14:40] <Jakethepython> and boot with the iso?
[14:40] <freakyy> ?
[14:40] <freakyy> can anyone get such a hostmask?
[14:40] <ioria> Jakethepython,  mini.iso is just 51mb ....
[14:40] <oerheks> freakyy, ask in #freenode for a cloak,
[14:41] <freakyy> ok thx ;D
[14:41] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks
[14:42] <sary> groklinux: is this issue on a server or a desktop! you may want to test your ram with Memtest86+ and do a filesystem check. if it's a dekstop and you're using and an onboard video card it might be the cause as hey all have to share system RAM since they never have enough! also, in the logs look at [ 0.000000] timestamp .. and look at what happened right before that, that should be what triggered the kernel!
[14:43] <freakyy> ah yea ok nice ;D
[14:45] <groklinux> sary: yes, it's a desktop (xubuntu) but i do run some processing stuff but it's all fairly simple with relatively low load. (pickup and process files, send to ftp, process results, etc) all of which is running fine this morning so far. i planned on taking it down at lunch and running the memtest on it.
[14:47] <syshero> Hello everyone, we encountered a weird issue while updating some of our servers that after glibc upgrade, telinit u is called and it's spawning a second init process, not we have multiple processes running because the second init tried to start then, anyone have any directions on how to troubleshoot what may be causing this?
[14:47] <Assid> can someone help me with the error for ejabberd please ?  i keep getting an error Error, do this: mount -t proc proc /proc
[14:48] <sary> groklinux: Good luck.
[14:48] <Halleluia> hi guys I'm back
[14:49] <sary> yeah.. wb.
[14:50] <oerheks> Assid, what guide do you follow?
[14:51] <Halleluia> About to reintall katoolin(kali linux tools)... Any advice
[14:51] <Assid> oerheks: not really needed. but https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-ejabberd-xmpp-server-on-ubuntu as basic reference
[14:52] <Assid> its pretty much simple.. you apt-get install it .. fix the apparmor su  related bug
[14:52] <Assid> after that it just wont go further
[14:52] <oerheks> Assid, i just read some ( more uptodate) manuals, none of them use mount
[14:53] <freakyy> whats a good way to make a launcher icon or, desktop entry, for minecraft under ubuntu gnome?
[14:53] <Assid> oerheks: its not the manual thats telling me that.. its the ubuntuj
[14:53] <freakyy> there is a program starting with a or smth
[14:53] <ExoUNX> btw, Openfire is a decent XMPP server bundle
[14:54] <Assid> ejabberd is what i used to use before
[14:54] <Assid> never tried openfire
[14:54] <Assid> the old one is still running..
[14:55] <Halleluia> Need help!.... About to install katoolin(kali tools) any advice
[14:55] <oerheks> !kali | Halleluia no help with kali here,
[14:56] <P99> hi!
[14:56] <Halleluia> hello
[14:56] <Assid> ExoUNX: it does file transfer ?
[14:57] <Assid> and is it easy to configure ?
[14:57] <ExoUNX> Assid, yep and supports MUC
[14:57] <ExoUNX> Assid, easier than ejabberd imo
[14:57] <oerheks> Halleluia, find the kali channel for that, see ubottu
[14:57] <P99> im trying to make xenial autoinstall usb with preseed file but every times the installer detects that the usb is mounts and i cant make continue
[14:57] <P99> similar that this bug
[14:57] <P99> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/preseed/+bug/1628659
[14:58] <P99> i try to add Erics slutions
[14:58] <Halleluia> quit
[14:58] <Assid> i cant seem to find it in apt-cache
[14:58] <Halleluia> exit
[14:58] <Halleluia> lol
[14:58] <Halleluia> IRSSI
[14:59] <P99> but not works for me
[14:59] <P99> someone can helps me?
[14:59] <ExoUNX> Assid, it might have its own repo, otherwise you can get it from https://www.igniterealtime.org/downloads/
[14:59] <Assid> wait .. isnt it java based ?
[15:00] <ExoUNX> Assid, and it is open source - https://github.com/igniterealtime/Openfire
[15:00] <ExoUNX> Assid, yes
[15:00] <rud0lf> openfire, gordon, openfire
[15:00] <Jakethepython> ioria do i just put the mini.iso onto a flashdrive (iso writer) and it installs like a normal OS would?
[15:01] <Assid> java is crazy on the resources .. afaik
[15:01] <ExoUNX> Assid, all together it uses less than 1GB of RAM fully loaded
[15:01] <ExoUNX> Assid, I think around ~300MB actually
[15:02] <ExoUNX> depends on users connected though
[15:02] <Assid> still quite a bit
[15:02] <Assid> 80 users.. approx
[15:02] <oerheks> Jakethepython, yes, but all the packages comes from the servers, so you need wired networking.
[15:02] <ExoUNX> probably uses less than a LAMP stack
[15:03] <Jakethepython> I have Wired network the problem is that it's not booting from the USB stick :(
[15:03] <Halleluia> how to backup my ubuntu
[15:03] <Jakethepython> it keeps going into the Ubuntu 16.04 not USB even though USB priotiry is on
[15:03] <Jakethepython> priorty boot
[15:03] <ExoUNX> Assid, it also supports LDAP out the box
[15:04] <oerheks> Jakethepython, that is vendor dependant, bootpriority, some biosses need a 2nd setting, hdd priority too
[15:04] <Jakethepython> OK
[15:04] <Assid> ExoUNX: pm ?
[15:05] <ExoUNX> sure
[15:05] <Assid> ExoUNX: you use embedded db ?
[15:05] <Halleluia> how to backup my ubuntu
[15:05] <oerheks> !backup
[15:07] <Halleluia> oerheks thanks
[15:09] <syshero> Hello everyone, we encountered a weird issue while updating some of our servers that after glibc upgrade, telinit u is called and it's spawning a second init process, now we have multiple processes running because the second init tried to start then, anyone have any directions on how to go about troubleshoot what may be causing this? (sorry about repeating, it was just lost in the chat backlog, that's why I'm reposting). Weird thing is,
[15:09] <syshero>  they are all 14.04 servers, some break and some don't.
[15:12] <J1sy> Hello :-)
[15:12] <AbiQuinn> howdy guys
[15:13] <J1sy> Hello help my brother set my laptop monitor to no primary how do i set it to vga/laptop screen as primary since each time i get a white screen
[15:14] <Halleluia> whats the easiest way to do a backup
[15:14] <Halleluia> whats the easiest way to do a backup
[15:16] <P99> dd
[15:16] <nemo> Halleluia: resync?
[15:16] <nemo> *rsync
[15:16] <nemo> cp -a 😃
[15:16] <Halleluia> nemo thanks
[15:16] <nemo> tar czf
[15:16] <nemo> ooh this is fun.  but probably very very easiest would be copy in a graphical user interface to the mounted USB drive ☺
[15:16] <Jakethepython> I should not avtiave MDADM containers (intelDFF RAID) right this is the one to stay awayfrom because its FAKE raid?
[15:17] <ikonia> Halleluia: what do you want to backup from your ubuntu install
[15:17] <ikonia> mdadm is not fakeraid
[15:17] <ikonia> mdadm is software raid
[15:17] <ikonia> - however meta devices can be software OR fake raid
[15:17] <Halleluia> ikonia from my ubuntu PC
[15:18] <ikonia> Halleluia: but what part of ubuntu do you want to back up
[15:18] <Jakethepython> OK so i should Avtivate MDADM containes?
[15:18] <ikonia> Jakethepython: containers ?
[15:18] <ikonia> Jakethepython: could you give some context of the problem and what you see that makes you question this ?
[15:19] <Jakethepython> it is on the initial setup of Ubuntu Detect Disks
[15:19] <AbiQuinn> I recently installed the recommended nvidia drivers through Kubuntu's GUI which proceeded to make every single app crash immediately on start... was wondering if there are any recommended nvidia drivers for kubuntu 17.04
[15:19] <ikonia> Jakethepython: so have you ever set up any mdadm devices on these disks before ?
[15:19] <Jakethepython> and says one or more drives containint MDADM containters have been found do you wish to atviate these raid devies?
[15:19] <ikonia> AbiQuinn: using the ones shipped through the ubuntu package management are always the best option, what makes you think the graphcis driver is the problem and what have you done to debug this ?
[15:20] <Jakethepython> I had software Raid on 2 drives which was working correctly
[15:20] <ikonia> Jakethepython: by software raid, do you mean mdadm or some other tool
[15:20] <ikonia> (just to clarify)
[15:20] <Jakethepython> mdadm
[15:21] <AbiQuinn> I put nvidia driver on, nothing worked, I took it off it worked... thats my debug. Im not using the nouveau ones that shipped but the recommended proprietary ones.
[15:21] <Jakethepython> i think (i didn't set up the raid initalialy) someone else did was the problem LOL
[15:22] <Jakethepython> i will just activate it and see what happens worst case i need to redo it
[15:26] <AbiQuinn> i did strace through xterm for konsole, the log shows konsole trying to load /lib/libGLX files and getting -1 ENOENT (no such file.. ) which leads to a crash
[15:27] <Jakethepython> then after i said OK to that it says one or more draices containt serial ATA RAID have been Found do u wish to activate theres RAID devies
[15:29] <ljetibo> Hello, can anyone help me resolve the screen flickering issue I'm having in Ubuntu 16.04, intel i5 5200 and nvidia geforce 940M graphics. I've just transitioned to this laptop from ubuntu 14.04 and an older gfx card where I didn't have problems. I've tried https://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-while-installing-ubuntu-16-04-16-10-with-nvidia-graphics/763493 with different versions 375, nouveau, 381 (latest), I've tried do
[15:29] <ljetibo> ing it with 352 but I can't seem to install it properly. I've also tried doing the compiz config workaround but it doesn't help. The blinking only happens when I'm not doing anything (moving mouse, intervals between typing). When I'm moving the mouse constantly there is no blinking.
[15:29] <ljetibo> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[15:30] <ljetibo> I have also done a clean reinstall once
[15:33] <l2y> oerheks: it says 14.10+, which is not the same as 15.04
[15:33] <oerheks> l2y, sure, the version after 14.10 .. why do you want to win, over such simple to find fact?
[15:34] <ljetibo> I'll be right back, I'm doing a restart, if anyone's interested bear with me for a sec.
[15:35] <ljetibo> back
[15:36] <l2y> oerheks: this is not totally correct. I didn't start this. you said "get your facts right". I tell you, get your understanding right. 14.10+ means 14.10 and everything afterwards, not just everything afterwards. that's why I said "almost correct". is it clear enough now?
[15:37] <oerheks> l2y, i think that statement is wrong, 14.10 is all after 14.10.
[15:37] <oerheks> c/14.10+
[15:37] <oerheks> anyway, good luck with that
[15:38] <l2y> oerheks: where do you live? just interested why do you think so
[15:38] <l2y> I mean, country
[15:39] <l2y> in Eastern and Central Europe 5+ always means 5 and above, not 6 and above
[15:40] <Wirehunter> In the netherlands, 5+ would Include 5. Said as 'vanaf 5'
[15:41] <Wirehunter> mathematical statements like > and >= would be more clear :)
[15:43] <BluesKaj> too bad there's no "equal to or greater than"  symbol key on querty KBs
[15:48] <beefjoe> Can someone recommend a way to install cool widget on desktop which show traffic stats, cpu usage and stuff like that ?
[15:49] <remitorl> hi
[15:49] <remitorl> how do I know if I have the wifi password enabled?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> beefjoe, conky ?
[15:49] <remitorl> how to check it??
[15:50] <remitorl> I want to see if I fed the password inside the ubuntu machine? Which way to check it?
[15:50] <rory> beefjoe: conky is definitely it, but it takes a while to set up. Find some example configurations online
[15:51] <rory> remitorl: click Wi-Fi icon, next "Network Connections". Select Your Wi-Fi's SSID, and click "Edit". In new window you should have tab "WiFi Security" and there will be check button called "Show password".
[15:51] <BluesKaj> remitorl, check network-manager
[15:57] <AbiQuinn> ok, so every app on my linux crashed immediately on running it, after doing a strace on konsole I found it was trying to open multiple /lib/libGLX files ane getting = -1 ENOENT (no such file..). I've put this down to the nvidia drivers I was using as all was fine after going back to nouveau. I could use some help installing nvidia drivers that work thanks.
[15:58] <AbiQuinn> using Kubuntu 17.04
[15:59] <ikonia> AbiQuinn: have you looked if that file is there ?
[16:00] <AbiQuinn> I would guess, that the (no such file) means it isn't
[16:00] <AbiQuinn> I also have no idea what im doing this is my first day using linux ikonia
[16:05] <ikonia> AbiQuinn: that seems odd, it's your first day, yet your stracing programs ?
[16:05] <ikonia> AbiQuinn: either way - check if that file is there, check if its on the system in a different place
[16:05] <AbiQuinn> I know how to use IRC xD
[16:05] <AbiQuinn> at least slightly
[16:05] <ikonia> AbiQuinn: also what is the graphics card you are using, it is an nvidia one or a hyrbrid intel/nvidia one
[16:06] <AbiQuinn> GTX1070, I've been made aware that my issue could have been something quite simple just now though
[16:07] <AbiQuinn> apparently after installing the proprietary drivers a reboot might have fixed my issue. I'll report back after trying that ikonia
[16:07] <ikonia> yes, you need to reboot
[16:08] <ikonia> it installs a kernel module that will provide some additional extensions (such as the glx extension to xorg)
[16:08] <AbiQuinn> that would cause it, ok. thank you
[16:13] <adnidor_> I'm having problems with Ubuntu 17.04 and Intel Graphics 405. The pointer is all over the place (http://imgur.com/a/P2FRd)
[16:13] <adnidor_> Any tips on how to troubeshoot this?
[16:13] <adnidor_> *troubleshoot
[16:14] <Jakethepython> FAILED to install grub :(
[16:16] <Jakethepython> this is a fatal error
[16:41] <Azrael_-> hi
[16:41] <Azrael_-> with ubuntu 16.04 can i also have a php-version <7.0 without too much hassle?
[16:42] <nacc> Azrael_-: you can look at ondrej's ppa, but it's not officially supported
[16:43] <nacc> Azrael_-: it seems quite a bit easier to run 14.04 in a VM or container (imo)
[16:46] <nemo> nacc: any reason for that besides unity-2d?
[16:46] <nemo> oh. hm. maybe systemd
[16:49] <shantaram3013> why is ubuntu moving away from unity?
[16:51] <nacc> nemo: ?
[16:51] <nacc> nemo: oh sorry, one sec
[16:52] <oerheks> shantaram3013, when you heard about the move, you sure read about why
[16:52] <shantaram3013> not really
[16:53] <genii> shantaram3013: Basically, because they have abandoned the attempt for converging desktops on multiple platforms. And the general community supports Wayland instead of Mir.
[16:53] <shantaram3013> but there will still be an ubuntu flavor that has unity right?
[16:54] <PflasterMann> Hey friends! Does anyone have any idea how I could lock USB ports on linux? I have a dashboard running linux and I don't want anyone to attach their USB devices. I want to have the ability, however, to attach my mouse and keyboard, after entering the correct password. Thanks in advance!
[16:54] <oerheks> shayes, but without mir, and the 'standard' iso will be gnome3
[16:54] <genii> shantaram3013: There will be forks of Unity, but none of them will be by Canonical
[16:54] <oerheks> shantaram3013 ^^
[16:55] <oerheks> it is a community project now
[16:55] <shantaram3013> so it'll be like ubuntu gnome is now?
[16:55] <nacc> nemo: sorry, not sure what you mean about the unity-2d wrt. php?
[16:56] <genii> shantaram3013: Official support will shift in 18.04 LTS to Gnome
[16:56] <shantaram3013> then there'll be a version of ubuntu with unity separate from the main right
[16:56] <shantaram3013> i love unity
[16:57] <nacc> shantaram3013: unity (7) is in universe now in 17.10 and on
[16:57] <genii> shantaram3013: As already stated, there will be no official release containing Unity as of 18.04
[16:57] <shantaram3013> http://imgur.com/a/n1GhI
[16:57] <shantaram3013> but
[16:57] <shantaram3013> why?
[16:57] <genii> shantaram3013: But there will likely be community ports
[16:57] <genii> shantaram3013: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/ubuntu-unity-is-dead-desktop-will-switch-back-to-gnome-next-year/
[16:57] <shantaram3013> so none of you want unity to stay?
[16:58] <oerheks> uh oh .. nobody says that
[16:58] <glitsj16> shantaram3013: 16.04 still has the 'original' unity and is supported untill 2021, by then this mess will have been sorted out, so you can use that today
[16:58] <eelstrebor> is there something other than "nomodeset" that'll fix my boot issues?
[16:58] <nemo> nacc: I was wondering what reasons 14.04 might work better than 16.04
[16:58] <shantaram3013> it's what im on rn
[16:59] <nacc> nemo: oh i wasn't saying that. I was saying it's easier to get php5 in a 14.04 vm/container than to run php5 and php7 (imo) in 16.04
[16:59] <nemo> nacc: I know that firing up ubuntu images on VMs has driven me bonkers in the past - so much so that #hedgewars has a 3 part quote series in the bot of me getting annoyed at default ubuntu image
[16:59] <nemo> ohhhh. php in particular. got it.
[16:59] <shantaram3013> also will a 64gb ssd suffice as a primary disk(for c++ programming and web browsing+light older game gaming) for ubuntu?
[16:59] <nacc> nemo: and you can use a rev-proxy/lb to send traffic as appropriate to the VM from 16.04
[17:00] <shantaram3013> (i have a 1tb external hdd for other stuff)
[17:00] <nemo> shantaram3013: that's tons and tons of room
[17:00] <shantaram3013> seriously?
[17:00] <nemo> sure
[17:00] <nemo> shantaram3013: I've done 'sactly that sort of thing on 4gigs
[17:00] <nemo> shantaram3013: and that's still probably twice what I needed
[17:01] <shantaram3013> for 16.04 you mean?
[17:01] <nemo> shantaram3013: there's a hedgewars user whose school issued laptop (south america) was that much space. hedgewars music assets was probably her biggest space consumption
[17:01] <nemo> shantaram3013: 16.04, 14.04, whatever.
[17:01] <shantaram3013> AWESOME
[17:01] <nemo> shantaram3013: when I run ubuntu on my phone I just use a 4 gig image - it's still way more space than I need
[17:02] <shantaram3013> yay
[17:02] <shantaram3013> im actually running on a laptop but same principle applies right
[17:02] <nemo> sure
[17:02] <nemo> if you run low on space can always clear apt cache or whatever.
[17:02] <nemo> but 64 gigs probably won't happen soon
[17:03] <nemo> shantaram3013: you must be used to Windows or something 😉
[17:04] <shantaram3013> not really but i was under the impression that ubuntu takes like 7gb on a fresh install
[17:04] <nemo> erm. it's plausible you could conceivably install that much... maybe...
[17:04] <nemo> but would be hard for it to grow beyond that
[17:06] <nemo> shantaram3013: https://askubuntu.com/questions/169727/how-much-space-does-ubuntu-take-up-after-its-already-installed
[17:06] <shantaram3013> i mean with a stock iso because i remember when i was a windows bourgeouise my ubuntu vm used to be like 6gb after installing(fresh vm diskimg)
[17:07] <nemo> shantaram3013: plausible I guess, if you installed a ton of stuff.
[17:07] <shantaram3013> but it was a stock 12.04 iso
[17:07] <nemo> shantaram3013: I don't think space of the packages has grown that enormously over the years...
[17:08] <shantaram3013> meh
[17:08] <shantaram3013> i must be misremembering
[17:08] <nemo> let's see. just for the heck of it. how much is in my very very old and much updated ubuntu /usr
[17:09] <nemo> since that'll be the vast majority of the space not counting all my games and crap in /home
[17:09] <nemo> but... I have a ton of dev libs and stuff
[17:10] <nemo> shantaram3013: $ du -hs * | xargs
[17:10] <nemo> 237M bin 20M games 206M include 3.7G lib 6.5M lib32 552K local 21M sbin 2.5G share 1.1G src
[17:10] <nemo> shantaram3013: ok. that's large. buuut
[17:11] <nemo> $ apt list --installed 2>/dev/null | wc -l
[17:11] <nemo> 2761
[17:11] <shantaram3013> it's not stock.
[17:11] <nemo> shantaram3013: so. IMO I'm kind of an edge case 😉
[17:11] <shantaram3013> im betting you uninstalled a bunch of shit?
[17:11] <nemo> shantaram3013: don't think so. was too lazy
[17:11] <shantaram3013> guessing*
[17:11] <nemo> shantaram3013: 4 terabyte HD
[17:11] <nemo> shantaram3013: I left Unity etc installed, and added stuff like MATE
[17:11] <shantaram3013> huuuuuuuuuuuu
[17:21] <Jakethepython> i can't get the grub bootloader to install
[17:23] <ljetibo> Hello, back after trying some more stuff. Asus X751L, intel i5 5200U (that's the Broadwell GT2 integrated HD Graphics 5500) and a nvidia geforce 940M. I've tried doing the compiz workaround and what's suggested in: https://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-while-installing-ubuntu-16-04-16-10-with-nvidia-graphics for 352, 375, 378, 381 (latest) but none of it worked. I've seen someone on ubuntu forums fixed his issues by inst
[17:23] <ljetibo> alling kernel 4.4 so I tried doing the same but didn't work. I'm currently on my 3rd fresh ubuntu 16.04 installation.
[17:23] <ment0s> hi, is there any way for iscsi initiator to have similar behaviour to "hard" option in nfs ? meaning that it will always keep on trying to connect to the target ?
[17:24] <abiQuinn> yo ikonia it was the fact I didn't restart :L im so dumb
[17:25] <abiQuinn> anyone here have any experience with xboxdrv? I've got the following error USBController::usb_find_ep(): couldn't find matching endpoint
[17:41] <ljetibo> uh, back again, didn't work :D
[17:46] <Jakethepython> im trying to set up  my drives as non efi
[17:58] <pettis> just installed Ubuntu Server 16.04.2 and it is outputting some kind of system messages to the shell, any ideas why please?  E.g. [ OK ] Started ACPI event daemon.  Pic: https://i.imgur.com/bXGQqV3.png
[17:59] <genii> pettis: Normal.
[18:00] <pettis> @genii, weirdly I've not seen it before, will it stop?
[18:02] <genii> pettis: All the [ OK ] Something Happened messages are normal. But what's interesting in that screen shot is that it looks like it drops straight to a bash shell instead of asking for login first.
[18:03] <genii> pettis: Did you hit ctrl-c at some point?
[18:05] <beefjoe> where to find nice conky widgets ?
[18:05] <xangua> beefjoe: DeviantArt
[18:05] <pettis> genii: it's weird; after all the [OK]... messages at boot I have the login prompt but it is like \r has been sent so I typing "over" the text.  It lets me login OK and then it started spitting out a couple more messages, I typed clear screen and then as I was typing a command it did it again.
[18:06] <beefjoe> xangua nothing interesting there :/
[18:07] <pettis> genii: haven't hit Ctrl+C or anyting and the only thing I have done different in this install is using softRAID
[18:07] <xangua> beefjoe: conky colors seems to be the most popular
[18:07] <beefjoe> xangua yea it's cool even though I guess these are more popular http://www.deviantart.com/popular-all-time/?section=&global=1&q=conky
[18:08] <Jakethepython> can i install a software raid after the system is running (on 2 new drives)
[18:08] <pettis> *I typed clear
[18:09] <genii> pettis: Yeah, I think it's not really too much to worry about. Looks like there's just some formatting boo-boo with some of the messages
[18:10] <genii> pettis: Might want to go to #ubuntu-server and ask around in there also.
[18:11] <pettis> genii: hmmm, yeah, I guess also an output buffer could be being flushed late for some reason
[18:13] <pettis> genii: in the time we have been talking it hasn't done it again so is probably something harmless as you suggest.  Might go and ask there, thanks!
[18:31] <donofrio> anyone know why my escape codes are not working in bash on ubuntu 16.04?
[18:35] <DJones> donofrio: I can't answer that, apart from saying, you need to give details
[18:35] <DJones> !details | donofrio
[18:36] <DJones> !bash | donofrio Ther is also this,
[18:38] <nemo> donofrio: are you sure you are in bash?
[18:38] <nemo> donofrio: don't forget ubuntu's default shell isn't bash
[18:40] <nemo> donofrio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh  that is
[18:41] <kythx> what command are you trying to run if you are new to the terminal trying looking up some videos on youtube and practice has nemo has stated try to run echo "hello world" in bash or just check and see if your running bash
[18:41] <kythx> if it gives a error then check the man pages for that command
[18:41] <kythx> and you do not need " " in echo
[18:41] <kythx> i just like running using it
[18:42] <compdoc> does any released version of ubuntu support rizen with replacing the kernel?
[18:43] <kythx> you do have the version of bash for your kernel right?
[18:44] <compdoc> *ryzen
[18:47] <oerheks> compdoc, i hope 4.12 stable will be offered with 17.10 https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/06/08/kernel-team-summary-june-8-2017/
[18:48] <compdoc> cool
[18:54] <Jakethepython> i have 3 hdd's in my system they should be SDA. sdb and sdc , in the bios it is showing 3 hdds but when i go to install sda does not show up in any partition tables
[18:55] <Ben64> what does show up in parted or lsblk
[18:55] <catbadger> Jakethepython: is it partitioned?
[18:57] <Jakethepython> i think from ealier it should have been partitioned but i though in the insatll type i could make a new partition table and make it blank
[19:02] <Jakethepython> Ben there is No OS installed currently on this
[19:02] <MrWallace> Hello. Anyone experience w/ Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and preseeding?
[19:03] <nacc> MrWallace: yes, just ask your question.
[19:04] <oerheks> Jakethepython, earlier you had a fakeraid situation, wasn't it?
[19:04] <MrWallace> I'm looking for the way to get Ubuntu to use my preseed file.
[19:04] <MrWallace> I've tried editing the txt.cfg file, but the installer still ignores the file
[19:05] <nacc> MrWallace: how are you booting? netboot? iso?
[19:05] <Jakethepython> I am doing a clean install for 2 reasons, 1 becuase of the Fake Raid in the ##Linux forum they suggested clean install, and 2 i want to put 16.04 from 14.04 i had previously
[19:05] <MrWallace> Iso from USB
[19:06] <nacc> MrWallace: ok, what 'txt.cfg' are you editing?
[19:07] <MrWallace> the one on the root of the USB
[19:09] <MrWallace> I've added the preseed.cfg file described in the manual and after a couple of google searches I've found the location where I should link the file. The documentation of Ubuntu is a little light on that part. Alas without success.
[19:10] <nacc> MrWallace: can you point me at the manual page you are referring to/
[19:11] <MrWallace> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/apbs02.html
[19:11] <nacc> MrWallace: ok, and did you modify your syslinx.cfg or your grub entry to pass preseed/file== ?
[19:11] <nacc> *=
[19:12] <nacc> MrWallace: and/or repackage the initrd to have your preseed in it?
[19:16] <MrWallace> nacc: I've edited the txt.cfg file, which contains the grub entry as far as I found
[19:17] <nacc> MrWallace: I don't know what txt.cfg file you're referring to. That page does not mention any such file.
[19:18] <nacc> MrWallace: and I don't have a USB in front of me
[19:18] <nacc> MrWallace: but just editing a file on the usb won't regenerate the bootloader config (afaik)
[19:19] <MrWallace> nacc: I'm using the advice from https://askubuntu.com/questions/806820/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu-desktop-16-04-1-lts as well
[19:19] <Jakethepython> do I need partitions set up before i can install unbuntu?
[19:20] <nacc> Jakethepython: no
[19:21] <Jakethepython> it's trying to default to sdb where sda is where i want the system installed. in the partition diolog i can only see SDB and SDC no SDA, if i run it live i see sda
[19:22] <nacc> Jakethepython: what is 'it'? a usb installer?
[19:22] <Jakethepython> I tried w/ USB installer that errored at GRUB instalalition so right now i am trying w/ CD install of 14.04 and its' not even seeing the drive
[19:23] <nacc> Jakethepython: i wonder if the former install is partially successful and by default the installer won't replace an existing install (unless you tell it to). I'm not sure, though.
[19:24] <ioria> Jakethepython, if you boot the livecd and paste sudo parted -l someone might help
[19:24] <Ben64> Jakethepython: you don't need an os installed to do what i asked
[19:24] <ananteris> hey, if youre trying to change a little code of something in a debian-src, what arguments do you have to pass to dpkg-buildpackage to not worry about signing it.. and to use whatever source is already in the directory instead of extracting/patching it again
[19:24] <ananteris> preferably without needing to create another patch and adding it into the regular build stuff
[19:25] <nacc> ananteris: -nc -ns will tell it to not sign the source package
[19:25] <nacc> ananteris: i'm not sure i follow the last bit
[19:26] <ananteris> eg.. i've changed something in main.cpp but I don't want to bother making a patch and just build/package whats in there
[19:26] <nacc> ananteris: do you want to build a .deb?
[19:27] <ananteris> yup.. as a one-off
[19:27] <nacc> ananteris: then you will not make a quilt patch, if it's a 3.0 (quilt) source format package
[19:27] <nacc> ananteris: `dpkg-source --commit` will help generate it
[19:28] <Jakethepython> paste.ubuntu.com/250269/49
[19:28] <Jakethepython> sorry
[19:28] <Jakethepython> paste.ubuntu.com/25026949
[19:39] <ioria> Jakethepython, so, what are you saying is that when you try to install again ubuntu on /dev/sda it does not show in the partitioner ?
[19:45] <ananteris> nacc: thanks
[19:45] <nacc> ananteris: yw
[19:58] <Jakethepython> ioria: that is correct
[19:58] <Jakethepython> i was able to install it via the live CD but right nowi have 14.04 installed
[19:59] <Vitruvia> is there a way to execute .bashrc commands differently for different systems? For example if I want to keep my bashrc on github and use it on windows and unix but want some commands to perform differently on each
[20:01] <nacc> Vitruvia: windows doesn't have a bash, do you mean the special ubuntu on windows thing?
[20:01] <nacc> Vitruvia: also your questions seems much more appropriate for a bash channel
[20:01] <nacc> !alis | Vitruvia
[20:01] <Vitruvia> nacc I'm using git bash on windows and I've confirmed that .bashrc commands work there
[20:01] <Vitruvia> Thanks I will look for this channel
[20:02] <nacc> Vitruvia: in general, you just add if/else blocks to do different things in different environments
[20:15] <ScreamSupreme> Hi could somebody please help me. I am using Raspbian and have my apt repository set to jessie, however for one package (ddclient), I require a newer version, how can I install only that package from the stretch repository without upgrading all other packages?
[20:16] <nacc> ScreamSupreme: wouldn't that be a Debian question if you are using jessie/stretch?
[20:16] <ScreamSupreme> nacc: the same procedure should apply with apt
[20:18] <oerheks> why do you need a newer ddclient, and why should you avoid dependencies?
[20:20] <Jakethepython> would software RAID work in Legacy mode?
[20:26] <ScreamSupreme> oerheks: I need 3.8.3 supports cloudflare dynamic dns
[20:26] <ScreamSupreme> 3.8.2 doesn't
[20:27] <ScreamSupreme> I just don't want to upgrade my whole system to stretch
[20:27] <ScreamSupreme> I just want to upgrade one package to the version in stretch
[20:32] <nonix4> ScreamSupreme: sounds like you're looking for apt pinning... https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
[20:33] <oerheks> no, he got the right answer already, backports.
[20:34] <paracusia> hello, i read that mariadb has no write-lock anymore when using ANALYZE TABLE since 10.2.2 - is there anything to be aware of, or just use it as usual?
[20:34] <OneM_Industries> So, ubuntu 16.04 is having issues with my monitor and KVM switch.
[20:36] <OneM_Industries> It is reading the monitor as a 1024x768 monitor, when it is actually a 1680x1050 monitor. It also is shifting the input image about half an inch to the left, leaving a black bar on one side of the screen, and screen space off the monitor on the other side.
[20:40] <pavlos> OneM_Industries: if you eliminate the KVM switch, does it pick up the correct resolution?
[20:42] <OneM_Industries> Hang on..
[20:44] <OneM_Industries> Well, it's certainly done something.
[20:45] <OneM_Industries> The machine is now completely non-responsive, and the video output shows a desktop tiled once completely, and 3 times incompletely if that makes sense.
[20:47] <thebwt> like it's tiling a 1024x768 image?
[20:47] <OneM_Industries> Yeah.
[20:47] <thebwt> can you get to a tty via ctrl-alt-f1?
[20:48] <OneM_Industries> Bingo, that worked.
[20:51] <OneM_Industries> What now?
[20:52] <sary> is this issue in unity DE!
[20:53] <thebwt> OneM_Industries: try restarting the ui service
[20:53] <thebwt> service lightdm or something (I don't linux desktop much these days, nto sre what it's called)
[20:54] <thebwt> basically reinit the desktop without doinga  full reboot
[20:55] <OneM_Industries> Typed in "unity" and hit enter, the machine isn't coming back up..
[20:57] <OneM_Industries> Ok, got it up.
[20:58] <OneM_Industries> Hm. It works without the KVM switch.
[20:58] <OneM_Industries> That's a pain.
[21:02] <pavlos> OneM_Industries: maybe the KVM cannot support this resolution. Do you know the model#?
[21:03] <L00P3X> if a window open's out of screen from bottom to top.. how did I should be able to move or close them!!! it's a plugin so it do not appears on program list
[21:04] <Johnnyjon> hey Fuchs go fuchs yourself
[21:04] <Johnnyjon> what the fuchs is your problem
[21:04] <Fuchs> oh, you want to leave the network, okay
[21:04] <Johnnyjon> fucking cunt staffer
[21:05] <L00P3X> what xD
[21:05] <thebwt> L00P3X: hold alt while clicking on a part of the window
[21:06] <oerheks> thebwt +1 alt + L mouse
[21:08] <L00P3X> thebwt, I thank you a lot! i shouldn't had would close all
[21:10] <RJ45> Anyone know how I can get graphics to not be trash on my Intel NUC? (Ubuntu)
[21:10] <RJ45> (Ubuntu 17.04)
[21:10] <thebwt> 3d graphics?
[21:10] <RJ45> all graphics in-general really
[21:10] <RJ45> Steam in-home streaming drops way too many frames
[21:11] <RJ45> (that's what I want to use ir for)
[21:11] <RJ45> it*
[21:11] <thebwt> those are all different things, so that may get complicated
[21:11] <thebwt> also: why not just use a steam link if that's all you're doing
[21:11] <thebwt> so
[21:11] <thebwt> you are going over wire?
[21:11] <RJ45> because I want it all in one box, Kodi and Stream
[21:11] <RJ45> yes, gigabit ether
[21:12] <RJ45> no packet loss
[21:12] <RJ45> just intense frame loss
[21:12] <OneM_Industries> pavlos: Cheap direct from china.
[21:12] <RJ45> I actually have a Steam Link, works great
[21:12] <thebwt> using unity?
[21:12] <RJ45> Ubuntu MATE
[21:12] <OneM_Industries> https://www.amazon.com/iKKEGOL-4-Port-Monitor-Switch-Keyboard/dp/B00JQAO9ZC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
[21:13] <pavlos> OneM_Industries: some KVM's support up to 1024 and that's it. Look for high end KVM switches
[21:13] <OneM_Industries> Hunh. Worked with a 1080P monitor at another site..
[21:14] <thebwt> hmm then I'm not really sure how to optimize that. Make sure the intel iris drivers are in place.
[21:17] <oerheks> RJ45, maybe this old fix might help, tearfree and sna https://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu
[21:20] <cireria> hi, i am facing issues while opening ubuntu software in ubuntu 17.04.After clicking the icon or launching it from search it does nothing.PLZ HELP
[21:22] <necroforest> I recently installed 17.04 using a minimal install next to Windows 10 with an ext4 /boot and the rest of the system using LVM.  I screwed up and made the /boot drive way to small (120mb) and it's causing all sorts of problems when the system wants to update kernels.  Is there a good way to shrink the LVM and make the boot drive bigger?  I'm fairly new to LVM.
[21:22] <Aginor> necroforest: if your filesystem has been allocated all of the space in the LVM it gets a lot harder
[21:24] <genii> 5% usually reserved for superuser
[21:25] <necroforest> The rest of the disk (minus /boot and Windows partitions) are allocated to LVM.  One idea I had was to in-place move the LVM volumes to a secondary drive (which I understand can be done while the system is running), blow away and recreate the original drive partitions, then move the volumes back to the primary drive.  Is that a reasonable thing to attempt?
[21:27] <Ben64> you can resize it, says a google search on the subject. i haven't dealt with lvm myself though
[21:27] <cireria> while installing ubuntu software center it shows"Package 'software-center' has no installation candidate".what should i do to succesfully install software-center?
[21:28] <nacc> cireria: it's been replaced by 'gnome-software'
[21:29] <ikonia> resizing a physical volume under lvm control is not wise
[21:30] <ikonia> you can also not "hot" move LVM to another disk while the system is running, you can only replicate to another disk
[21:32] <paracusia> hello, i read that mariadb has no write-lock anymore when using ANALYZE TABLE since 10.2.2 - is there anything to be aware of, or just use it as usual?
[21:32] <nacc> paracusia: wouldn't that be a question for mariadb?
[21:33] <ikonia> paracusia: probably better for the mariadb channel #mariadb
[21:33] <paracusia> getting no answer there, so I try it here :x
[21:33] <ikonia> wait for an answer
[21:33] <ikonia> paracusia: you've waited less than 60 seconds
[21:33] <paracusia> no, i waited one hour
[21:33] <ikonia> you can't be serious that you expect an answer in 60 second or you hit other channels
[21:34] <nacc> paracusia: presumably they also have a mailing list, etc., as well
[21:34] <paracusia> how come you think 60 seconds?!
[21:34] <ikonia> paracusia: becauase you asked at 21:32 my time and it's 21:33 now
[21:34] <ikonia> thats 60 seconds
[21:34] <nacc> fwiw, cursory googling shows it is: https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-7901 and mentions possibly some controls.
[21:34] <paracusia> scroll up ikonia
[21:35] <ikonia> paracusia: no
[21:35] <nacc> paracusia: i'm not sure why you think there is something to be aware of that we would know
[21:35] <nacc> paracusia: did you read their release notes?
[21:36] <nacc> paracusia: typically, when using beta software (10.2.2 says quite loudly it is such), it's relevant to read release notes and engage with the developers as to what effect it might have on your system.
[21:36] <ikonia> does ubuntu even package 10.2.2 ?
[21:36] <paracusia> it is stable
[21:36] <nacc> paracusia: 10.2.6 is stable. 10.2.2 is not (per mariadb's pages)
[21:36] <paracusia> and i found this https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-7901 < but the answer is not there
[21:36] <nacc> ikonia: no, not that i see
[21:37] <ikonia> !info mariadb-server
[21:37] <ikonia> so 10.1
[21:37] <ikonia> it' snot even an ubuntu build
[21:37] <nacc> ikonia: 10.3 is in debian/experimental only
[21:37] <ikonia> how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[21:37] <nacc> ikonia: agreed
[21:37] <paracusia> MariaDB 10.2 is the current stable release of MariaDB.
[21:37] <paracusia> check our their website before spreading false information
[21:37] <ikonia> paracusia: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:37] <ikonia> ubuntu does not ship maria 10.2
[21:38] <paracusia> doesnt matter, u spread false infos man
[21:38] <ikonia> this is not for this channel
[21:38] <ikonia> paracusia: no-one is spreading false info
[21:38] <ikonia> please take this to the appropirate channel
[21:38] <nacc> paracusia: you said 10.2.2
[21:38] <paracusia> 10.1 is the last stable release in ubuntu maybe
[21:39] <paracusia> however, have a nice day
[21:39] <ikonia> thanks, you too
[21:39] <oerheks> "MariaDB 10.2 is the current stable release of MariaDB. It is built on MariaDB 10.1 with features from MySQL 5.6 & 5.7, and entirely new features not found anywhere else." .. i think you found one
[21:39] <oerheks> 10.2.6 is stable
[21:39] <tomreyn> and 10.2.2 wasn't https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/+releases/
[21:40] <nacc> right, i probably misunderstood the original message that referred to 10.2.2
[21:40] <nacc> that was purely when that chagne was introduced, my fault
[21:40] <nacc> in any case, issue is non-ubuntu :)
[21:42] <ljetibo> Hey, I have an Asus X751L with Intel i5 5200 (integrated intel 5500HD) and a nvidia geforce 940M graphcis card. When I log in my screen starts blinking "violently" black to image couple times a second. I hve tried the compiz workaround and sollutions from https://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-while-installing-ubuntu-16-04-16-10-with-nvidia-graphics but I haven't made it work. Can I get any help?
[21:44] <ljetibo> To work around the problem currently I make sure I run a smoothly running gif in firefox in the background because the screen does not flickr if I write fast enough, move my mouse or watch a gif/video basically anything that constantly updates the image.
[21:44] <oerheks> nomodeset would help you install and get drivers
[21:45] <ljetibo> oerheks: when I do nomodeset I get the login loop problem
[21:45] <oerheks> oh you are beyond that point of installing.
[21:46] <ljetibo> I can pretty much install whatever I think (I don't know how to verify if it didn't default to some version other than requested but installing through tty is no problem)
[21:46] <ljetibo> and I can install easily through the sys settings additional drivers
[21:47] <ljetibo> the offered one is 375 currently, but I think I did the tty good (I had to add the keys for the graphics-drivers ppa's) and I have tried the 381, 352 and 361
[21:47] <ljetibo> that is the tty didn't pop a visible error during the install
[21:49] <ljetibo> I can post my lshw if you want?
[21:52] <paracusia> ljetibo, try the package from nvidia.com
[21:52] <ljetibo> paracusia: the nvidia .run files?
[21:52] <paracusia> yes
[21:53] <paracusia> DKMS should pick it up
[21:55] <Bashing-om> ljetibo: What does /var/log/gpu-manager.log relate ? and do you also refresh the /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file ? // Be aware that OEM install is the means of last resort . Drivers in the repo/PPA are optimised for our use case .
[21:55] <ljetibo> paracusia: not sure what you mean by that (DKMS), I can try installing the .run by hand. I tried it before but I messed something up and had to reinstall ubuntu (4ht or 5th time)
[21:55] <oerheks> ljetibo, check for bios updates too
[21:56] <ljetibo> this is the gpu-manager log: https://pastebin.com/RkjFvd2x
[21:57] <ljetibo> oerheks: how do I do that? I've never played around with bios
[21:57] <paracusia> ljetibo, your display manager needs to be off(unity)
[21:57] <paracusia> when running the .run file
[21:57] <paracusia> but it will display an error when its still on
[21:57] <ljetibo> paracusia: yeah I know that
[21:57] <paracusia> ok :)
[21:57] <oerheks> we don't support the .run file direct from nvidia
[21:58] <ljetibo> yeah, exactly it pop an error if you try to do it with it on
[21:58] <paracusia> DKMS is Dynamic Kernel Module Support, it will compile the module freshly if u install new kernel
[22:00] <Ben64> yeah, that's all unsupported here
[22:01] <oerheks> as he has found the off driver ppa already, i just wonder with that not new chipset.
[22:01] <Ben64> anything above 346.59 supports the 940M, so installing a bunch of drivers from various locations won't help
[22:01] <Bashing-om> ljetibo: " can't access /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> Regenerating xorg.conf. Path: /etc/X11/xorg.conf " I would be checking and see what the system built .
[22:02] <ljetibo> 940M isn't that new, I've tried playing around to see if the driver version might have a bug as one of te answers suggested that 375 version didn't work for him so he reverted to an older 362 or something and then it worked
[22:04] <Bashing-om> ljetibo: Nvidia do recommend the 375 version driver for linux . http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/118290/en-us /
[22:09] <Sleaker> trying to find info on linux 3.13 series patches done in the security updates repository as the current kernel I've got appears to break PID grabbing.
[22:12] <nacc> Sleaker: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[22:12] <Sleaker> thanks nacc.
[22:15] <Bashing-om> LjL: Be interesting to see what you have presently insalled ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . make sure we have no conflicts .
[22:16] <Bashing-om> LjL: Sorry bad hi-lite ^ .
[22:18] <LjL> i'll live
[22:19] <Bashing-om> LjL: :)
[23:04] <paracusia> sex is updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep;
[23:08] <capella> hahahah
[23:11] <ljetibo> Well that went south again, I tried installing the nvidia .run drivers again, 375.66 as before, and ended stuck against the endless login loop again
[23:22] <Ben64> ljetibo: yep
[23:25] <ljetibo> Ben64: do you have any other suggestions. As I said, I need ubuntu for work and he current workaround to have a gif always opened in image viewer of firefox is just a bit too ridiculous to live with. Do you have any other suggestions?
[23:26] <Ben64> ljetibo: well i did but now you have your system in an unknown state
[23:26] <ljetibo> I can do a reinstall
[23:26] <ljetibo> complete ubntu
[23:26] <ljetibo> no problems
[23:26] <ljetibo> that's what, 15 minutes
[23:26] <Ben64> if you want to do that, install with internet connected
[23:26] <Ben64> and choose download updates and whatnot
[23:27] <ljetibo> do I get proprietary updates as well?
[23:27] <Ben64> and maybe consider trying a different flavor
[23:29] <ljetibo> Ben64: what distro would you recommend?
[23:30] <Ben64> ubuntu mate worked on my laptop without any tweaks, had to mess around a bit to get ubuntu working
[23:34] <ljetibo> Ben64: I don't know if it helps or not, I did get an error msg first time I tried installing from .run. It said "unable to determine the path to install the liblvnf EGL vendor library config files. Check hat you have pkg-config and the libglvnd development libraries installed, or specify path with --glvnd-egl-config-path". I did apt-cache search for the two and picked two that matched the names and had dev in it. I also did a
[23:34] <ljetibo> xorg-soemthig-dev install which fixed that particular problem.
[23:35] <ljetibo> Anyhow, I'll go and reinstall with full updates, and proprietaries (intel first, then I'll update the nvidia to 357.66 through the system settings -- additional drivers) and I'll be back in 15-20mns.