[13:07] <chdslv> Touchpad doesn't work in Medion laptop
[14:07] <bobafett> hello guys
[17:47] <penguin_linux> hello, I have a very old laptop, about 11 years old, runs on Intel Celeron M Single core 1.5 Ghz cpu and 2 gb ram and has 40 gbs hdd. Would Lubuntu be suitable for it?
[17:47] <wxl> yep
[17:48] <penguin_linux> 16.04.2?
[17:48] <penguin_linux> the laptop is a 32 bit machine.
[17:49] <wxl> any version
[17:49] <wxl> as long as you get 32 bit
[17:49] <penguin_linux> how about Lxle? how is that different from Lubuntu?
[17:49] <wxl> it's lubuntu + a bunch of extra stuff = relatively bloated
[17:49] <wxl> it's also not supported by lubuntu, so you'd need to ask them
[17:50] <penguin_linux> so, you wouldn't recommend it?
[17:50] <wxl> i don't see the reason, personally, although it obviously exists because some people like it
[17:52] <penguin_linux> ok
[17:53] <penguin_linux> btw, how is Antix Linux compared to Lubuntu?
[17:53] <wxl> no clue
[17:53] <penguin_linux> I just checked it in Distrowatch.com.
[17:54] <wxl> distrowatch is full of little tiny distros that have ultimately singular puproses with really limited support
[17:54] <penguin_linux> ok
[17:55] <wxl> if you want something that works, that has a team of people surrounding it, that have lots of support, you probably want a major distro
[17:55] <penguin_linux> Debian with lxde?
[17:55] <wxl> that would certainly work
[17:55] <penguin_linux> since my laptop runs on single core Intel Celeron M cpu, I am a little apprehensive.
[17:55] <wxl> i wouldn't be
[17:56] <penguin_linux> what advantage does Lubuntu have over Debian Lxde?
[17:56] <wxl> the same advantages ubuntu has over debian
[17:57] <penguin_linux> please elaborate. I am a newbie.
[17:57] <wxl> also lubuntu is a whole system. EVERYTHING was chosen to be lightweight, not just the desktop environment
[17:57] <penguin_linux> ok
[17:57] <wxl> ubuntu was originally started to make debian easy and approachable
[17:57] <penguin_linux> ok
[17:57] <wxl> it's based on debian but often has additional changes/improvements relative to it
[17:57] <wxl> it's based on debian unstable so it tends to have newer packages
[17:58] <penguin_linux> newer packages? great.
[17:59] <wxl> also, i think the community's great
[17:59] <wxl> and that means the support is great too
[17:59] <penguin_linux> ok
[18:00] <wxl> at least in the cloud world, ubuntu is the #1 distro used
[18:00] <penguin_linux> would Lubuntu be fine on a laptop with single core cpu?
[18:00] <wxl> that said, there's a loooooooooooot of support out there
[18:00] <wxl> yes
[18:00] <wxl> you can read the system requirements on the wiki. they're pretty darn low.
[18:00] <penguin_linux> I am just thinking which version I should choose.
[18:01] <wxl> you should probably get an LTS version
[18:01] <wxl> it will eb more stable
[18:01] <penguin_linux> 17.10. How about that.
[18:01] <wxl> getting the most recent will make the most sense
[18:01] <wxl> !lts
[18:01] <penguin_linux> which one is the laterst LTS version?
[18:02] <wxl> ^^
[18:02] <penguin_linux> ok. sorry.
[18:03] <penguin_linux> when will the final release of 17.10 going to happen?
[18:03] <penguin_linux> is alpha safe to use?
[18:03] <wxl> generally, yes
[18:03] <penguin_linux> I mean could it have some serious bugs?
[18:03] <wxl> unless there's sweeping chanegs
[18:03] <wxl> none of which i know right now
[18:03] <wxl> but
[18:03] <penguin_linux> ok
[18:04] <wxl> you could always wait too
[18:04] <wxl> i'll explain the version number scheme which will explain when they come out
[18:04] <penguin_linux> ok
[18:04] <wxl> the first number is the year
[18:04] <wxl> the second number is the month XD
[18:04] <penguin_linux> ok
[18:04] <wxl> so you could wait until october
[18:05] <wxl> or just install xenial. you'll get offered an upgrade to the next lts when it's available
[18:05] <penguin_linux> can I upgrade smoothly from 17.04 to 17.10?
[18:06] <wxl> yeah but the problem with doing a non-LTS version is that you'll be stuck in the upgrade cycle for each new version rather than sticking to the more stable LTS
[18:06] <penguin_linux> or will I have to reinstall?
[18:06] <wxl> there's ways around that, but if you want the "easy" route, just get 16.04 and upgrade to 17.10
[18:07] <penguin_linux> oh. is that possible?
[18:07] <wxl> yep
[18:07] <penguin_linux> then ok
[18:07] <wxl> that's what i was suggesting above
[18:07] <penguin_linux> I will download LTS only then.
[18:07] <penguin_linux> thanks for the info.
[18:08] <wxl> np
[18:09] <penguin_linux> bye. have a good day.
[18:09] <wxl> u2
[19:47] <Jbmorris289> Hello
[19:47] <wxl> what's up?
[19:50] <Jbmorris289> Nothing much..
[19:50] <wxl> need some help or just hanging out?
[19:51] <Jbmorris289> A little bit of both, more of the first thing actually
[19:52] <wxl> in that case, carry on but #lubuntu-offtopic is mostly for the idle chatter :)
[19:52] <Jbmorris289> I have a computer with Lubuntu... Let's just say that my parents use Skype, and I cannot install it
[19:52] <wxl> why not?
[19:53] <Jbmorris289> I'm afraid that my computer isn't a 64 bit and I found some 32 bit version, however there is a package that can't be satisfied
[19:54] <Jbmorris289> Some webkit or qt
[19:54] <wxl> are you sure the computer isn't 64 bit capable?
[19:54] <Jbmorris289> Also, okay.. (for your other message)
[19:54] <Jbmorris289> Ehh.
[19:55] <Jbmorris289> Out only has 2 gigs of ram or so
[19:56] <wxl> if this returns something, you can reinstall using your old home with a new version in 64 bit:
[19:56] <wxl> grep ' lw ' /proc/cpuinfo
[19:57] <Jbmorris289> I'm not on the computer right now but I will do that once I get on it
[19:57] <Jbmorris289> Too bad I can't ssh
[19:57] <Jbmorris289> Because of my rout
[19:57] <Jbmorris289> Router*
[19:58] <Jbmorris289> No, it's my ISP modem
[20:12] <wxl> Jbmorris289: actually this will require less interpretation:
[20:13] <wxl> grep ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo >/dev/null && echo 64 capable || echo 32 only
[20:15] <Jbmorris289> Okay sorry for taking a while
[20:16] <Jbmorris289> One sec
[20:16] <wxl> no prob, i'm working so
[20:17] <Jbmorris289> It gives me 64 capable
[20:17] <wxl> yay
[20:18] <wxl> so you can reinstall a 64 bit
[20:18] <wxl> it will give an option to use your old home
[20:18] <Jbmorris289> Oh okay
[20:18] <wxl> if you're worried about having everything installed, you can get a package list with dpkg -l
[20:18] <Jbmorris289> What is erased
[20:18] <Jbmorris289> ?
[20:18] <wxl> you might want to grab /etc too in case you made any system wide changes
[20:18] <wxl> essentially everything else
[20:19] <Jbmorris289> Oh ok
[20:39] <Jbmorris289> Well thanks... I might install it
[22:19] <Sxmsung> I'm looking to view the contents of an efl file. Specifically a file named abl.elf from an android img. I'm on a linux box running lubuntu. Any help is appreciated.
[23:22] <iBiscuit> Hello
[23:22] <iBiscuit> I'm a n00b to Linux but I've been using it for about 4 years now