=== wwkeyboard_ is now known as wwkeyboard [13:07] Touchpad doesn't work in Medion laptop [14:07] hello guys [17:47] hello, I have a very old laptop, about 11 years old, runs on Intel Celeron M Single core 1.5 Ghz cpu and 2 gb ram and has 40 gbs hdd. Would Lubuntu be suitable for it? [17:47] yep [17:48] 16.04.2? [17:48] the laptop is a 32 bit machine. [17:49] any version [17:49] as long as you get 32 bit [17:49] how about Lxle? how is that different from Lubuntu? [17:49] it's lubuntu + a bunch of extra stuff = relatively bloated [17:49] it's also not supported by lubuntu, so you'd need to ask them [17:50] so, you wouldn't recommend it? [17:50] i don't see the reason, personally, although it obviously exists because some people like it [17:52] ok [17:53] btw, how is Antix Linux compared to Lubuntu? [17:53] no clue [17:53] I just checked it in Distrowatch.com. [17:54] distrowatch is full of little tiny distros that have ultimately singular puproses with really limited support [17:54] ok [17:55] if you want something that works, that has a team of people surrounding it, that have lots of support, you probably want a major distro [17:55] Debian with lxde? [17:55] that would certainly work [17:55] since my laptop runs on single core Intel Celeron M cpu, I am a little apprehensive. [17:55] i wouldn't be [17:56] what advantage does Lubuntu have over Debian Lxde? [17:56] the same advantages ubuntu has over debian [17:57] please elaborate. I am a newbie. [17:57] also lubuntu is a whole system. EVERYTHING was chosen to be lightweight, not just the desktop environment [17:57] ok [17:57] ubuntu was originally started to make debian easy and approachable [17:57] ok [17:57] it's based on debian but often has additional changes/improvements relative to it [17:57] it's based on debian unstable so it tends to have newer packages [17:58] newer packages? great. [17:59] also, i think the community's great [17:59] and that means the support is great too [17:59] ok [18:00] at least in the cloud world, ubuntu is the #1 distro used [18:00] would Lubuntu be fine on a laptop with single core cpu? [18:00] that said, there's a loooooooooooot of support out there [18:00] yes [18:00] you can read the system requirements on the wiki. they're pretty darn low. [18:00] I am just thinking which version I should choose. [18:01] you should probably get an LTS version [18:01] it will eb more stable [18:01] 17.10. How about that. [18:01] getting the most recent will make the most sense [18:01] !lts [18:01] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [18:01] which one is the laterst LTS version? [18:02] ^^ [18:02] ok. sorry. [18:03] when will the final release of 17.10 going to happen? [18:03] is alpha safe to use? [18:03] generally, yes [18:03] I mean could it have some serious bugs? [18:03] unless there's sweeping chanegs [18:03] none of which i know right now [18:03] but [18:03] ok [18:04] you could always wait too [18:04] i'll explain the version number scheme which will explain when they come out [18:04] ok [18:04] the first number is the year [18:04] the second number is the month XD [18:04] ok [18:04] so you could wait until october [18:05] or just install xenial. you'll get offered an upgrade to the next lts when it's available [18:05] can I upgrade smoothly from 17.04 to 17.10? [18:06] yeah but the problem with doing a non-LTS version is that you'll be stuck in the upgrade cycle for each new version rather than sticking to the more stable LTS [18:06] or will I have to reinstall? [18:06] there's ways around that, but if you want the "easy" route, just get 16.04 and upgrade to 17.10 [18:07] oh. is that possible? [18:07] yep [18:07] then ok [18:07] that's what i was suggesting above [18:07] I will download LTS only then. [18:07] thanks for the info. [18:08] np [18:09] bye. have a good day. [18:09] u2 [19:47] Hello [19:47] what's up? [19:50] Nothing much.. [19:50] need some help or just hanging out? [19:51] A little bit of both, more of the first thing actually [19:52] in that case, carry on but #lubuntu-offtopic is mostly for the idle chatter :) [19:52] I have a computer with Lubuntu... Let's just say that my parents use Skype, and I cannot install it [19:52] why not? [19:53] I'm afraid that my computer isn't a 64 bit and I found some 32 bit version, however there is a package that can't be satisfied [19:54] Some webkit or qt [19:54] are you sure the computer isn't 64 bit capable? [19:54] Also, okay.. (for your other message) [19:54] Ehh. [19:55] Out only has 2 gigs of ram or so [19:56] if this returns something, you can reinstall using your old home with a new version in 64 bit: [19:56] grep ' lw ' /proc/cpuinfo [19:57] I'm not on the computer right now but I will do that once I get on it [19:57] Too bad I can't ssh [19:57] Because of my rout [19:57] Router* [19:58] No, it's my ISP modem === GB is now known as Guest52194 [20:12] Jbmorris289: actually this will require less interpretation: [20:13] grep ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo >/dev/null && echo 64 capable || echo 32 only [20:15] Okay sorry for taking a while [20:16] One sec [20:16] no prob, i'm working so [20:17] It gives me 64 capable [20:17] yay [20:18] so you can reinstall a 64 bit [20:18] it will give an option to use your old home [20:18] Oh okay [20:18] if you're worried about having everything installed, you can get a package list with dpkg -l [20:18] What is erased [20:18] ? [20:18] you might want to grab /etc too in case you made any system wide changes [20:18] essentially everything else [20:19] Oh ok [20:39] Well thanks... I might install it [22:19] I'm looking to view the contents of an efl file. Specifically a file named abl.elf from an android img. I'm on a linux box running lubuntu. Any help is appreciated. [23:22] Hello [23:22] I'm a n00b to Linux but I've been using it for about 4 years now