| inetpro | good mornings | 06:40 |
|---|---|---|
| NeRoboto | inetpro: Many mornings. | 07:44 |
| Langjan | Hello all | 13:21 |
| Langjan | How are all the pros? | 13:22 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 13:25 |
| Kilos | they all ok i think, how are you? | 13:25 |
| Kilos | i am in and out so could take a while to answer, be patient | 13:26 |
| Langjan | Hi Kilos I'm fine thanks. How are you keeping? | 13:26 |
| Kilos | im ok ty sir | 13:26 |
| Langjan | Good! Happy to hear that. | 13:27 |
| Kilos | got a little cat ian picked up on the tar road | 13:27 |
| Langjan | Remember my hitch with Tbird hogging the whole screen? | 13:27 |
| Kilos | was half the width of my hand now 2 months later she big and beautiful | 13:28 |
| Langjan | Eish! Drown the thing before it grows up. | 13:28 |
| Kilos | oh yes | 13:28 |
| Kilos | i always hated cats because they ate my pigeons | 13:28 |
| Kilos | but this one is now my idol | 13:28 |
| Kilos | she eats everything i eat | 13:28 |
| Kilos | raw onion tomato, atchar etc etc | 13:29 |
| Langjan | So nothing left for you to eat. Eish! Drown it. | 13:29 |
| Kilos | and very loveable but gets very cheeky at times then gets a good klap | 13:29 |
| Langjan | Drown it. | 13:29 |
| Kilos | i hink she half wild cat | 13:30 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 13:30 |
| Langjan | lmga! | 13:30 |
| Langjan | Ok t bird | 13:30 |
| Kilos | yes | 13:30 |
| Langjan | Well a guy on the Mozilla forum suggested the answer | 13:30 |
| Kilos | its their app ya | 13:30 |
| Langjan | Delete all the .json files in the profile | 13:30 |
| Kilos | inetpro take note^^ | 13:31 |
| Langjan | then it creates new ones on startup and problem solved | 13:31 |
| Kilos | great im happy for you | 13:31 |
| Kilos | what are you going to break next | 13:31 |
| Langjan | Was'nt mine but worse, it was somebody I helped. | 13:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:32 |
| Langjan | Watch this space...! | 13:32 |
| Kilos | weird how these things happen hey | 13:32 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 13:32 |
| Langjan | yeah | 13:32 |
| Kilos | only the guys that develope them normally know the workarounds | 13:33 |
| Langjan | What's happening with Ubuntu on usb sticks? | 13:33 |
| Kilos | they should have put the fix on google | 13:33 |
| Langjan | Agreed | 13:33 |
| Kilos | i have no idea anymore , been to slack to keep up with everything | 13:34 |
| Langjan | Promises... | 13:34 |
| Kilos | far behind in mails as well | 13:34 |
| Kilos | what did i promise? | 13:34 |
| Kilos | oh my | 13:34 |
| Langjan | I was going to get one when 16.04 launches... | 13:35 |
| Langjan | Don't lose sleep over it | 13:35 |
| Kilos | we were supposed to order but it was a big rigmarole and fly also gave up | 13:35 |
| Langjan | Got myself an external DVD writer, tired battling with us built-in dvd drives | 13:36 |
| Kilos | you need to show its for a special event etc | 13:36 |
| Kilos | yes they better. mine in this lappy is broken as well | 13:36 |
| Langjan | I went to Ubuntu Mate in my lappy, its a great OS but battled to get the DVD booted | 13:37 |
| Kilos | dont you use a usb stick to install with | 13:38 |
| Kilos | its faster | 13:38 |
| Langjan | No, I was there with you once but got rusted | 13:38 |
| Kilos | once you have the iso you use unetbootin to make the stick and install stick | 13:38 |
| Kilos | old 4g sticks work well | 13:39 |
| Langjan | Is the stick then dedicated? | 13:39 |
| Kilos | use disk utility to format it to mbr then unetbootin to do the rest' | 13:39 |
| Kilos | it like having a dvd you can install from | 13:40 |
| Kilos | then you set the bios to boot from usb key or whatever usb thing the pc sees | 13:40 |
| Kilos | should do an install in less than 7 mins | 13:41 |
| Kilos | maybe a bit longer on a dual core pc | 13:41 |
| Langjan | OK will make notes and try some time | 13:42 |
| Langjan | Thks | 13:42 |
| Kilos | anytime im awake you welcome haha | 13:42 |
| Langjan | Those times are getting few and far between...lmga! | 13:43 |
| Kilos | yeah sorry | 13:43 |
| Langjan | No no, just joking | 13:43 |
| Kilos | but just keep pinging and if i am connected it will break through the sleep barrier | 13:44 |
| Langjan | Just glad you're up and about, was glad to see you here | 13:44 |
| Kilos | ty | 13:44 |
| Langjan | How are your girls in Oz? | 13:44 |
| Kilos | they ok ty, just hard being apart now after those 3 months so painfull even to chat all the time | 13:45 |
| Langjan | Antoinette is in Melbourne at the mo on an arty trip | 13:45 |
| Kilos | easy place to get lost if you dont have a gps | 13:46 |
| Kilos | massive city | 13:46 |
| Kilos | lemme go make coffee, everyone says it helps with headaches | 13:48 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:48 |
| Langjan | Enjoy, hope it does! | 13:48 |
| Kilos | its helps them get worse man | 13:48 |
| Kilos | where you fell out the bus | 13:48 |
| Langjan | Well thats what I thought, but you know the placebo effect? | 13:49 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:53 |
| Kilos | my head been quite good for some weeks now | 13:53 |
| Kilos | so maybe the coffee is helping | 13:53 |
| Kilos | hows your family oom | 13:54 |
| Langjan | Juanita is recovering from what looks like bronchitis, but all is well | 13:56 |
| Kilos | eish | 13:56 |
| Langjan | I'm running to next door for a while | 13:56 |
| Kilos | hope she gets well soon | 13:56 |
| Kilos | ok | 13:56 |
| Langjan | thks | 13:56 |
| Langjan | already better | 13:56 |
| Kilos | good | 13:57 |
| Langjan | using only immune builders | 13:57 |
| Kilos | good | 13:57 |
| Kilos | expensive though | 13:57 |
| Langjan | scuse me, chat again just now, I have to go install that repaired Tbird profile | 13:58 |
| Kilos | ok | 13:58 |
| Langjan | cheaper than doctors and antibiotics | 13:58 |
| Kilos | yes | 13:58 |
| Langjan | especially if you calculate side-effects | 13:58 |
| Langjan | chat later | 13:58 |
| Kilos | definitely | 13:58 |
| Kilos | go well | 13:58 |
| Langjan | Hey Kilos you still awake? | 18:26 |
| Kilos | yessir | 18:27 |
| Kilos | eating pap and beef stew | 18:27 |
| Langjan | Good! Lekker... | 18:27 |
| Kilos | bad to eat late i know | 18:27 |
| Kilos | what broke | 18:27 |
| Langjan | Lmga! | 18:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:28 |
| Langjan | I'm not using kde | 18:28 |
| Kilos | jaja | 18:28 |
| Langjan | haha | 18:28 |
| Kilos | mate isnt bad | 18:28 |
| Langjan | Have you ever given Mate a try? | 18:29 |
| Kilos | gnome2 iirc | 18:29 |
| Kilos | yes on 12.04 already | 18:29 |
| Langjan | I'm pretty impressed with 16.04 on my laptop | 18:29 |
| Kilos | mate is nice and fast yes | 18:30 |
| Langjan | and full of features | 18:30 |
| Langjan | and easy to use | 18:30 |
| Kilos | but kde just has so much more that works without sukkeling | 18:30 |
| Langjan | does mate sukkel? | 18:31 |
| Kilos | so what broke | 18:31 |
| Langjan | Nothing | 18:31 |
| Langjan | told you not on kde | 18:31 |
| Kilos | yes i had to keep finding stuff i needed with kde its there | 18:31 |
| Langjan | ok good, like what? | 18:32 |
| Kilos | i cant remember man | 18:32 |
| Langjan | sorry | 18:32 |
| Kilos | maybe 3g connection stuff | 18:32 |
| * inetpro fell asleep | 18:32 | |
| Langjan | oh ok maybe thats why it has'nt bothered me, dont use that stuff | 18:33 |
| Kilos | maybe ill try it again sometime | 18:33 |
| Kilos | my dual core desktop is a bit slow with 16.04 kde | 18:33 |
| inetpro | oops, good morning everybody | 18:33 |
| Langjan | Hi inetpro | 18:33 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro there was a pointer for you | 18:33 |
| Kilos | how to fix Tbird that old men break | 18:34 |
| inetpro | thanks Kilos but I've never needed that, seriously | 18:34 |
| Kilos | delete .json and restart it | 18:34 |
| Kilos | man you tried to help Langjan fix his remember | 18:35 |
| Kilos | and he is still alive so could come ask how to again some time | 18:35 |
| Langjan | Kilos, my lappie was slow and sluggish with Unity, then tried Lubuntu but with Mate it flies | 18:35 |
| Kilos | yes gnome2 was lekker fast | 18:35 |
| Kilos | lubuntu is hard work | 18:36 |
| inetpro | addons.json directoryTree.json extensions.json folderTree.json sessionCheckpoints.json session.json times.json | 18:37 |
| Langjan | inetpro, you never know when...that Tbird just started off with a bug and a very frustrating one at that | 18:37 |
| inetpro | those ^^ are the files in my thunderbird profile folder | 18:37 |
| Kilos | mine works lekker so im not even looking | 18:38 |
| Langjan | Yes, I deleted them all then restarted Tbird and all was well | 18:38 |
| inetpro | good job | 18:38 |
| Langjan | Thks to a guy on the Mozilla forum | 18:38 |
| Kilos | Langjan you google for a solution hey | 18:39 |
| Kilos | go to one of those sites you looked at and give them the fix | 18:39 |
| Kilos | then you helping others in the future | 18:39 |
| inetpro | another way would be to rename your profile folder and start a fresh session | 18:39 |
| Langjan | Yes but then you lose all your mails and addresses | 18:40 |
| inetpro | that's why you make backups | 18:40 |
| Langjan | Kilos, I did post the solution | 18:40 |
| Kilos | Langjan well done | 18:41 |
| Langjan | thks Kilos | 18:41 |
| inetpro | glad you resolved it Langjan | 18:41 |
| Kilos | i maually start my Tbird everytime | 18:41 |
| Kilos | some days i dont wanna look at mails | 18:42 |
| Kilos | manually | 18:42 |
| Langjan | So do I | 18:42 |
| Kilos | mails can be tiresome | 18:43 |
| Langjan | inetpro, I usually backup the whole profile folder, then all is there. I assume that you can backup the mails and addresses separately? | 18:43 |
| Kilos | when i came back from OZ i just deleted over 400 without even looking | 18:43 |
| inetpro | yep, look in the Mail folder | 18:44 |
| Langjan | So that's why you did not reply to my important question. | 18:44 |
| Kilos | hahahaha | 18:44 |
| Kilos | sorry | 18:44 |
| Langjan | Jaja | 18:44 |
| inetpro | when was this Langjan? | 18:44 |
| Langjan | When he camee back from Oz | 18:44 |
| Kilos | i still think i havent caught up the sleep from that 34 hour trip | 18:45 |
| Langjan | Sorry talking to Kilos ine | 18:45 |
| inetpro | what!? That long ago? | 18:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:45 |
| Kilos | he is joking inetpro | 18:45 |
| Langjan | I'm just pulling his leg | 18:45 |
| Kilos | he never asks important questions | 18:45 |
| Langjan | Goway! | 18:45 |
| Kilos | hahahah | 18:45 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:46 |
| Langjan | OK inetpro thks for that. I could have solved the prob by backing up the mail folder and reinstalling the app | 18:48 |
| inetpro | nope | 18:48 |
| Kilos | lmga | 18:48 |
| inetpro | reinstalling is not rarely needed | 18:48 |
| Langjan | oh? | 18:48 |
| inetpro | I mean is rarely* | 18:48 |
| Kilos | is rarely needed | 18:48 |
| Kilos | we nunderstand you just woke up inetpro | 18:49 |
| inetpro | if you rename the profile folder and start thunderbird it creates a new profile as if you have a new installation | 18:49 |
| Langjan | Yes, then you copy the old mail folder to the new profile. Comes to the same, methinks. | 18:50 |
| inetpro | exactly | 18:51 |
| inetpro | or you start thunderbird with the parameter "--ProfileManager" | 18:51 |
| Langjan | Ok I get your point, dont reinstall the app just restart it without a profile | 18:51 |
| inetpro | and then you create a new profile | 18:52 |
| inetpro | see options on the cli with "thunderbird --help" | 18:52 |
| Langjan | How to restart with parameter "--ProfileManager" ? | 18:52 |
| inetpro | but you don't need that now | 18:53 |
| inetpro | #JustSaying | 18:53 |
| Langjan | no, just for future ref | 18:54 |
| inetpro | google is your friend | 18:54 |
| inetpro | if you want more info on that | 18:54 |
| Langjan | Ok thks | 18:55 |
| inetpro | --safe-mode is also very useful | 18:55 |
| Kilos | lmga | 18:55 |
| Kilos | at least google is someones friend | 18:55 |
| Langjan | did you tell a joke inetpro ? | 18:56 |
| Kilos | yes man | 18:56 |
| Kilos | he always says google is my friend | 18:56 |
| * inetpro too old to remeber any joke | 18:56 | |
| inetpro | remember as well | 18:57 |
| Kilos | but when i try get fixes with google he ends up fixing the fixes that dont work and mess something else up | 18:57 |
| Langjan | referring to the chuckle after --safe mode is useful | 18:57 |
| inetpro | Langjan: I know :-) | 18:57 |
| inetpro | just teasing | 18:58 |
| Langjan | He's a step behind as usual, the old man! | 18:58 |
| Kilos | actually its been a while since i needed much help | 18:58 |
| Kilos | since just after i started using kde i think and Tbird mail | 18:59 |
| Langjan | You've been speeling all the while, no wonder | 18:59 |
| Langjan | sleeping | 18:59 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: maybe the Vit C has helped improving your memory? | 18:59 |
| Kilos | no man nothing breaks anymore | 18:59 |
| inetpro | brain cells also growing back? | 18:59 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:59 |
| Langjan | Mine also does not break when I dont use it | 19:00 |
| inetpro | haha | 19:00 |
| Kilos | lmga | 19:00 |
| Kilos | stop it | 19:00 |
| Kilos | you making me laugh me awake and its near bedtime | 19:00 |
| Langjan | See what I mean by not using the thing | 19:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:01 |
| Langjan | Jy moet lekker rus my vriend | 19:01 |
| Kilos | ek doen, dankie baie | 19:01 |
| Kilos | never slept so much in my whole life | 19:02 |
| Langjan | Bye inetpro and thks for the tip, as usual | 19:02 |
| Kilos | he is actually a handy guy to have around Langjan | 19:02 |
| inetpro | anytime, nag oom | 19:02 |
| Langjan | Very | 19:02 |
| Kilos | been my saviour many times | 19:03 |
| Langjan | Dankie inetpro | 19:03 |
| inetpro | uh | 19:03 |
| Kilos | ok guys ty for being there | 19:03 |
| inetpro | good night Kilos | 19:03 |
| Kilos | sleep tight and stay safe and well | 19:03 |
| Langjan | G'night Kilos | 19:03 |
| Langjan | and inetpro | 19:04 |
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