[06:40] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:44] <NeRoboto> inetpro: Many mornings.
[13:21] <Langjan> Hello all
[13:22] <Langjan> How are all the pros?
[13:25] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[13:25] <Kilos> they all ok i think, how are you?
[13:26] <Kilos> i am in and out so could take a while to answer, be patient
[13:26] <Langjan> Hi Kilos I'm fine thanks. How are you keeping?
[13:26] <Kilos> im ok ty sir
[13:27] <Langjan> Good! Happy to hear that.
[13:27] <Kilos> got a little cat ian picked up on the tar road
[13:27] <Langjan> Remember my hitch with Tbird hogging the whole screen?
[13:28] <Kilos> was half the width of my hand now 2 months later she big and beautiful
[13:28] <Langjan> Eish! Drown the thing before it grows up. 
[13:28] <Kilos> oh yes
[13:28] <Kilos> i always hated cats because they ate my pigeons
[13:28] <Kilos> but this one is now my idol
[13:28] <Kilos> she eats everything i eat
[13:29] <Kilos> raw onion tomato, atchar etc etc
[13:29] <Langjan> So nothing left for you to eat. Eish! Drown it. 
[13:29] <Kilos> and very loveable but gets very cheeky at times then gets a good klap
[13:29] <Langjan> Drown it. 
[13:30] <Kilos> i hink she half wild cat
[13:30] <Kilos> hahaha
[13:30] <Langjan> lmga!
[13:30] <Langjan> Ok t bird
[13:30] <Kilos> yes
[13:30] <Langjan> Well a guy on the Mozilla forum suggested the answer
[13:30] <Kilos> its their app ya
[13:30] <Langjan> Delete all the .json files in the profile
[13:31] <Kilos> inetpro take note^^
[13:31] <Langjan> then it creates new ones on startup and problem solved
[13:31] <Kilos> great im happy for you
[13:31] <Kilos> what are you going to break next 
[13:31] <Langjan> Was'nt mine but worse, it was somebody I helped. 
[13:32] <Kilos> lol
[13:32] <Langjan> Watch this space...!
[13:32] <Kilos> weird how these things happen hey
[13:32] <Kilos> hahaha
[13:32] <Langjan> yeah
[13:33] <Kilos> only the guys that develope them normally know the workarounds
[13:33] <Langjan> What's happening with Ubuntu on usb sticks?
[13:33] <Kilos> they should have put the fix on google
[13:33] <Langjan> Agreed
[13:34] <Kilos> i have no idea anymore , been to slack to keep up with everything
[13:34] <Langjan> Promises...
[13:34] <Kilos> far behind in mails as well
[13:34] <Kilos> what did i promise?
[13:34] <Kilos> oh my
[13:35] <Langjan> I was going to get one when 16.04 launches...
[13:35] <Langjan> Don't lose sleep over it
[13:35] <Kilos> we were supposed to order but it was a big rigmarole and fly also gave up
[13:36] <Langjan> Got myself an external DVD writer, tired battling with us built-in dvd drives 
[13:36] <Kilos> you need to show its for a special event etc
[13:36] <Kilos> yes they better. mine in this lappy is broken as well
[13:37] <Langjan> I went to Ubuntu Mate in my lappy, its a great OS but battled to get the DVD booted  
[13:38] <Kilos> dont you use a usb stick to install with
[13:38] <Kilos> its faster
[13:38] <Langjan> No, I was there with you once but got rusted
[13:38] <Kilos> once you have the iso you use unetbootin to make the stick and install stick
[13:39] <Kilos> old 4g sticks work well
[13:39] <Langjan> Is the stick then dedicated?
[13:39] <Kilos> use disk utility to format it to mbr then unetbootin to do the rest'
[13:40] <Kilos> it like having a dvd you can install from 
[13:40] <Kilos> then you set the bios to boot from usb key or whatever usb thing the pc sees
[13:41] <Kilos> should do an install in less than 7 mins
[13:41] <Kilos> maybe a bit longer on a dual core pc
[13:42] <Langjan> OK will make notes and try some time
[13:42] <Langjan> Thks
[13:42] <Kilos> anytime im awake you welcome haha
[13:43] <Langjan> Those times are getting few and far between...lmga!
[13:43] <Kilos> yeah sorry
[13:43] <Langjan> No no, just joking
[13:44] <Kilos> but just keep pinging and if i am connected it will break through the sleep barrier 
[13:44] <Langjan> Just glad you're up and about, was glad to see you here
[13:44] <Kilos> ty
[13:44] <Langjan> How are your girls in Oz?
[13:45] <Kilos> they ok ty, just hard being apart now after those 3 months so painfull even to chat all the time
[13:45] <Langjan> Antoinette is in Melbourne at the mo on an arty trip 
[13:46] <Kilos> easy place to get lost if you dont have a gps
[13:46] <Kilos> massive city 
[13:48] <Kilos> lemme go make coffee, everyone says it helps with headaches
[13:48] <Kilos> hehe
[13:48] <Langjan> Enjoy, hope it does!
[13:48] <Kilos> its helps them get worse man
[13:48] <Kilos> where you fell out the bus
[13:49] <Langjan> Well thats what I thought, but you know the placebo effect?  
[13:53] <Kilos> lol
[13:53] <Kilos> my head been quite good for some weeks now
[13:53] <Kilos> so maybe the coffee is helping
[13:54] <Kilos> hows your family oom
[13:56] <Langjan> Juanita is recovering from what looks like bronchitis, but all is well
[13:56] <Kilos> eish
[13:56] <Langjan> I'm running to next door for a while
[13:56] <Kilos> hope she gets well soon
[13:56] <Kilos> ok
[13:56] <Langjan> thks
[13:56] <Langjan> already better
[13:57] <Kilos> good
[13:57] <Langjan> using only immune builders
[13:57] <Kilos> good
[13:57] <Kilos> expensive though
[13:58] <Langjan> scuse me, chat again just now, I have to go install that repaired Tbird profile
[13:58] <Kilos> ok
[13:58] <Langjan> cheaper than doctors and antibiotics
[13:58] <Kilos> yes
[13:58] <Langjan> especially if you calculate side-effects
[13:58] <Langjan> chat later
[13:58] <Kilos> definitely
[13:58] <Kilos> go well
[18:26] <Langjan> Hey Kilos you still awake? 
[18:27] <Kilos> yessir
[18:27] <Kilos> eating pap and beef stew
[18:27] <Langjan> Good! Lekker...
[18:27] <Kilos> bad to eat late i know
[18:27] <Kilos> what broke
[18:28] <Langjan> Lmga!
[18:28] <Kilos> lol
[18:28] <Langjan> I'm not using kde
[18:28] <Kilos> jaja
[18:28] <Langjan> haha
[18:28] <Kilos> mate isnt bad
[18:29] <Langjan> Have you ever given Mate a try?
[18:29] <Kilos> gnome2 iirc
[18:29] <Kilos> yes on 12.04 already
[18:29] <Langjan> I'm pretty impressed with 16.04 on my laptop
[18:30] <Kilos> mate is nice and fast yes
[18:30] <Langjan> and full of features
[18:30] <Langjan> and easy to use
[18:30] <Kilos> but kde just has so much more that works without sukkeling
[18:31] <Langjan> does mate sukkel? 
[18:31] <Kilos> so what broke
[18:31] <Langjan> Nothing
[18:31] <Langjan> told you not on kde
[18:31] <Kilos> yes i had to keep finding stuff i needed with kde its there
[18:32] <Langjan> ok good, like what?
[18:32] <Kilos> i cant remember man
[18:32] <Langjan> sorry
[18:32] <Kilos> maybe 3g connection stuff
[18:32]  * inetpro fell asleep
[18:33] <Langjan> oh ok maybe thats why it has'nt bothered me, dont use that stuff
[18:33] <Kilos> maybe ill try it again sometime
[18:33] <Kilos> my dual core desktop is a bit slow with 16.04 kde
[18:33] <inetpro> oops, good morning everybody
[18:33] <Langjan> Hi inetpro 
[18:33] <Kilos> morning inetpro there was a pointer for you
[18:34] <Kilos> how to fix Tbird that old men break
[18:34] <inetpro> thanks Kilos but I've never needed that, seriously
[18:34] <Kilos> delete .json and restart it
[18:35] <Kilos> man you tried to help Langjan fix his remember
[18:35] <Kilos> and he is still alive so could come ask how to again some time
[18:35] <Langjan> Kilos, my lappie was slow and sluggish with Unity, then tried Lubuntu but with Mate it flies
[18:35] <Kilos> yes gnome2 was lekker fast
[18:36] <Kilos> lubuntu is hard work
[18:37] <inetpro> addons.json  directoryTree.json  extensions.json  folderTree.json  sessionCheckpoints.json  session.json  times.json
[18:37] <Langjan> inetpro, you never know when...that Tbird just started off with a bug and a very frustrating one at that
[18:37] <inetpro> those ^^ are the files in my thunderbird profile folder
[18:38] <Kilos> mine works lekker so im not even looking
[18:38] <Langjan> Yes, I deleted them all then restarted Tbird and all was well 
[18:38] <inetpro> good job
[18:38] <Langjan> Thks to a guy on the Mozilla forum
[18:39] <Kilos> Langjan you google for a solution hey
[18:39] <Kilos> go to one of those sites you looked at and give them the fix
[18:39] <Kilos> then you helping others in the future
[18:39] <inetpro> another way would be to rename your profile folder and start a fresh session
[18:40] <Langjan> Yes but then you lose all your mails and addresses
[18:40] <inetpro> that's why you make backups
[18:40] <Langjan> Kilos, I did post the solution
[18:41] <Kilos> Langjan well done
[18:41] <Langjan>  thks Kilos 
[18:41] <inetpro> glad you resolved it Langjan
[18:41] <Kilos> i maually start my Tbird everytime
[18:42] <Kilos> some days i dont wanna look at mails
[18:42] <Kilos> manually
[18:42] <Langjan> So do I 
[18:43] <Kilos> mails can be tiresome
[18:43] <Langjan> inetpro, I usually backup the whole profile folder, then all is there. I assume that you can backup the mails and addresses separately? 
[18:43] <Kilos> when i came back from OZ i just deleted over 400 without even looking
[18:44] <inetpro> yep, look in the Mail folder
[18:44] <Langjan> So that's why you did not reply to my important question. 
[18:44] <Kilos> hahahaha
[18:44] <Kilos> sorry
[18:44] <Langjan> Jaja
[18:44] <inetpro> when was this Langjan?
[18:44] <Langjan> When he camee back from Oz
[18:45] <Kilos> i still think i havent caught up the sleep from that 34 hour trip
[18:45] <Langjan> Sorry talking to Kilos ine
[18:45] <inetpro> what!? That long ago?
[18:45] <Kilos> lol
[18:45] <Kilos> he is joking inetpro 
[18:45] <Langjan> I'm just pulling his leg
[18:45] <Kilos> he never asks important questions
[18:45] <Langjan> Goway!
[18:45] <Kilos> hahahah
[18:46] <inetpro> ai!
[18:48] <Langjan> OK inetpro  thks for that. I could have solved the prob by backing up the mail folder and reinstalling the app
[18:48] <inetpro> nope
[18:48] <Kilos> lmga
[18:48] <inetpro> reinstalling is not rarely needed
[18:48] <Langjan> oh?
[18:48] <inetpro> I mean is rarely*
[18:48] <Kilos> is rarely needed
[18:49] <Kilos> we nunderstand you just woke up inetpro 
[18:49] <inetpro> if you rename the profile folder and start thunderbird it creates a new profile as if you have a new installation
[18:50] <Langjan> Yes, then you copy the old mail folder to the new profile. Comes to the same, methinks.  
[18:51] <inetpro> exactly
[18:51] <inetpro> or you start thunderbird with the parameter "--ProfileManager"
[18:51] <Langjan> Ok I get your point, dont reinstall the app just restart it without a profile
[18:52] <inetpro> and then you create a new profile
[18:52] <inetpro> see options on the cli with "thunderbird --help"
[18:52] <Langjan> How to restart with parameter "--ProfileManager" ?
[18:53] <inetpro> but you don't need that now
[18:53] <inetpro> #JustSaying
[18:54] <Langjan> no, just for future ref
[18:54] <inetpro> google is your friend
[18:54] <inetpro> if you want more info on that
[18:55] <Langjan> Ok thks
[18:55] <inetpro> --safe-mode is also very useful
[18:55] <Kilos> lmga
[18:55] <Kilos> at least google is someones friend
[18:56] <Langjan> did you tell a joke inetpro ?
[18:56] <Kilos> yes man
[18:56] <Kilos> he always says google is my friend
[18:56]  * inetpro too old to remeber any joke
[18:57] <inetpro> remember as well
[18:57] <Kilos> but when i try get fixes with google he ends up fixing the fixes that dont work and mess something else up
[18:57] <Langjan> referring to the chuckle after --safe mode is useful
[18:57] <inetpro> Langjan: I know :-)
[18:58] <inetpro> just teasing 
[18:58] <Langjan> He's a step behind as usual, the old man!
[18:58] <Kilos> actually its been a while since i needed much help
[18:59] <Kilos> since just after i started using kde i think and Tbird mail
[18:59] <Langjan> You've been speeling all the while, no wonder
[18:59] <Langjan> sleeping
[18:59] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:59] <inetpro> Kilos: maybe the Vit C has helped improving your memory?
[18:59] <Kilos> no man nothing breaks anymore
[18:59] <inetpro> brain cells also growing back?
[18:59] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:00] <Langjan> Mine also does not break when I dont use it
[19:00] <inetpro> haha
[19:00] <Kilos> lmga
[19:00] <Kilos> stop it
[19:00] <Kilos> you making me laugh me awake and its near bedtime
[19:01] <Langjan> See what I mean by not using the thing
[19:01] <Kilos> lol
[19:01] <Langjan> Jy moet lekker rus my vriend
[19:01] <Kilos> ek doen, dankie baie
[19:02] <Kilos> never slept so much in my whole life
[19:02] <Langjan> Bye inetpro and thks for the tip, as usual
[19:02] <Kilos> he is actually a handy guy to have around Langjan 
[19:02] <inetpro> anytime, nag oom
[19:02] <Langjan> Very
[19:03] <Kilos> been my saviour many times
[19:03] <Langjan> Dankie inetpro 
[19:03] <inetpro> uh
[19:03] <Kilos> ok guys ty for being there
[19:03] <inetpro> good night Kilos
[19:03] <Kilos> sleep tight and stay safe and well
[19:03] <Langjan> G'night Kilos 
[19:04] <Langjan> and inetpro