[06:40] good mornings [07:44] inetpro: Many mornings. [13:21] Hello all [13:22] How are all the pros? [13:25] hi Langjan [13:25] they all ok i think, how are you? [13:26] i am in and out so could take a while to answer, be patient [13:26] Hi Kilos I'm fine thanks. How are you keeping? [13:26] im ok ty sir [13:27] Good! Happy to hear that. [13:27] got a little cat ian picked up on the tar road [13:27] Remember my hitch with Tbird hogging the whole screen? [13:28] was half the width of my hand now 2 months later she big and beautiful [13:28] Eish! Drown the thing before it grows up. [13:28] oh yes [13:28] i always hated cats because they ate my pigeons [13:28] but this one is now my idol [13:28] she eats everything i eat [13:29] raw onion tomato, atchar etc etc [13:29] So nothing left for you to eat. Eish! Drown it. [13:29] and very loveable but gets very cheeky at times then gets a good klap [13:29] Drown it. [13:30] i hink she half wild cat [13:30] hahaha [13:30] lmga! [13:30] Ok t bird [13:30] yes [13:30] Well a guy on the Mozilla forum suggested the answer [13:30] its their app ya [13:30] Delete all the .json files in the profile [13:31] inetpro take note^^ [13:31] then it creates new ones on startup and problem solved [13:31] great im happy for you [13:31] what are you going to break next [13:31] Was'nt mine but worse, it was somebody I helped. [13:32] lol [13:32] Watch this space...! [13:32] weird how these things happen hey [13:32] hahaha [13:32] yeah [13:33] only the guys that develope them normally know the workarounds [13:33] What's happening with Ubuntu on usb sticks? [13:33] they should have put the fix on google [13:33] Agreed [13:34] i have no idea anymore , been to slack to keep up with everything [13:34] Promises... [13:34] far behind in mails as well [13:34] what did i promise? [13:34] oh my [13:35] I was going to get one when 16.04 launches... [13:35] Don't lose sleep over it [13:35] we were supposed to order but it was a big rigmarole and fly also gave up [13:36] Got myself an external DVD writer, tired battling with us built-in dvd drives [13:36] you need to show its for a special event etc [13:36] yes they better. mine in this lappy is broken as well [13:37] I went to Ubuntu Mate in my lappy, its a great OS but battled to get the DVD booted [13:38] dont you use a usb stick to install with [13:38] its faster [13:38] No, I was there with you once but got rusted [13:38] once you have the iso you use unetbootin to make the stick and install stick [13:39] old 4g sticks work well [13:39] Is the stick then dedicated? [13:39] use disk utility to format it to mbr then unetbootin to do the rest' [13:40] it like having a dvd you can install from [13:40] then you set the bios to boot from usb key or whatever usb thing the pc sees [13:41] should do an install in less than 7 mins [13:41] maybe a bit longer on a dual core pc [13:42] OK will make notes and try some time [13:42] Thks [13:42] anytime im awake you welcome haha [13:43] Those times are getting few and far between...lmga! [13:43] yeah sorry [13:43] No no, just joking [13:44] but just keep pinging and if i am connected it will break through the sleep barrier [13:44] Just glad you're up and about, was glad to see you here [13:44] ty [13:44] How are your girls in Oz? [13:45] they ok ty, just hard being apart now after those 3 months so painfull even to chat all the time [13:45] Antoinette is in Melbourne at the mo on an arty trip [13:46] easy place to get lost if you dont have a gps [13:46] massive city [13:48] lemme go make coffee, everyone says it helps with headaches [13:48] hehe [13:48] Enjoy, hope it does! [13:48] its helps them get worse man [13:48] where you fell out the bus [13:49] Well thats what I thought, but you know the placebo effect? [13:53] lol [13:53] my head been quite good for some weeks now [13:53] so maybe the coffee is helping [13:54] hows your family oom [13:56] Juanita is recovering from what looks like bronchitis, but all is well [13:56] eish [13:56] I'm running to next door for a while [13:56] hope she gets well soon [13:56] ok [13:56] thks [13:56] already better [13:57] good [13:57] using only immune builders [13:57] good [13:57] expensive though [13:58] scuse me, chat again just now, I have to go install that repaired Tbird profile [13:58] ok [13:58] cheaper than doctors and antibiotics [13:58] yes [13:58] especially if you calculate side-effects [13:58] chat later [13:58] definitely [13:58] go well [18:26] Hey Kilos you still awake? [18:27] yessir [18:27] eating pap and beef stew [18:27] Good! Lekker... [18:27] bad to eat late i know [18:27] what broke [18:28] Lmga! [18:28] lol [18:28] I'm not using kde [18:28] jaja [18:28] haha [18:28] mate isnt bad [18:29] Have you ever given Mate a try? [18:29] gnome2 iirc [18:29] yes on 12.04 already [18:29] I'm pretty impressed with 16.04 on my laptop [18:30] mate is nice and fast yes [18:30] and full of features [18:30] and easy to use [18:30] but kde just has so much more that works without sukkeling [18:31] does mate sukkel? [18:31] so what broke [18:31] Nothing [18:31] told you not on kde [18:31] yes i had to keep finding stuff i needed with kde its there [18:32] ok good, like what? [18:32] i cant remember man [18:32] sorry [18:32] maybe 3g connection stuff [18:32] * inetpro fell asleep [18:33] oh ok maybe thats why it has'nt bothered me, dont use that stuff [18:33] maybe ill try it again sometime [18:33] my dual core desktop is a bit slow with 16.04 kde [18:33] oops, good morning everybody [18:33] Hi inetpro [18:33] morning inetpro there was a pointer for you [18:34] how to fix Tbird that old men break [18:34] thanks Kilos but I've never needed that, seriously [18:34] delete .json and restart it [18:35] man you tried to help Langjan fix his remember [18:35] and he is still alive so could come ask how to again some time [18:35] Kilos, my lappie was slow and sluggish with Unity, then tried Lubuntu but with Mate it flies [18:35] yes gnome2 was lekker fast [18:36] lubuntu is hard work [18:37] addons.json directoryTree.json extensions.json folderTree.json sessionCheckpoints.json session.json times.json [18:37] inetpro, you never know when...that Tbird just started off with a bug and a very frustrating one at that [18:37] those ^^ are the files in my thunderbird profile folder [18:38] mine works lekker so im not even looking [18:38] Yes, I deleted them all then restarted Tbird and all was well [18:38] good job [18:38] Thks to a guy on the Mozilla forum [18:39] Langjan you google for a solution hey [18:39] go to one of those sites you looked at and give them the fix [18:39] then you helping others in the future [18:39] another way would be to rename your profile folder and start a fresh session [18:40] Yes but then you lose all your mails and addresses [18:40] that's why you make backups [18:40] Kilos, I did post the solution [18:41] Langjan well done [18:41] thks Kilos [18:41] glad you resolved it Langjan [18:41] i maually start my Tbird everytime [18:42] some days i dont wanna look at mails [18:42] manually [18:42] So do I [18:43] mails can be tiresome [18:43] inetpro, I usually backup the whole profile folder, then all is there. I assume that you can backup the mails and addresses separately? [18:43] when i came back from OZ i just deleted over 400 without even looking [18:44] yep, look in the Mail folder [18:44] So that's why you did not reply to my important question. [18:44] hahahaha [18:44] sorry [18:44] Jaja [18:44] when was this Langjan? [18:44] When he camee back from Oz [18:45] i still think i havent caught up the sleep from that 34 hour trip [18:45] Sorry talking to Kilos ine [18:45] what!? That long ago? [18:45] lol [18:45] he is joking inetpro [18:45] I'm just pulling his leg [18:45] he never asks important questions [18:45] Goway! [18:45] hahahah [18:46] ai! [18:48] OK inetpro thks for that. I could have solved the prob by backing up the mail folder and reinstalling the app [18:48] nope [18:48] lmga [18:48] reinstalling is not rarely needed [18:48] oh? [18:48] I mean is rarely* [18:48] is rarely needed [18:49] we nunderstand you just woke up inetpro [18:49] if you rename the profile folder and start thunderbird it creates a new profile as if you have a new installation [18:50] Yes, then you copy the old mail folder to the new profile. Comes to the same, methinks. [18:51] exactly [18:51] or you start thunderbird with the parameter "--ProfileManager" [18:51] Ok I get your point, dont reinstall the app just restart it without a profile [18:52] and then you create a new profile [18:52] see options on the cli with "thunderbird --help" [18:52] How to restart with parameter "--ProfileManager" ? [18:53] but you don't need that now [18:53] #JustSaying [18:54] no, just for future ref [18:54] google is your friend [18:54] if you want more info on that [18:55] Ok thks [18:55] --safe-mode is also very useful [18:55] lmga [18:55] at least google is someones friend [18:56] did you tell a joke inetpro ? [18:56] yes man [18:56] he always says google is my friend [18:56] * inetpro too old to remeber any joke [18:57] remember as well [18:57] but when i try get fixes with google he ends up fixing the fixes that dont work and mess something else up [18:57] referring to the chuckle after --safe mode is useful [18:57] Langjan: I know :-) [18:58] just teasing [18:58] He's a step behind as usual, the old man! [18:58] actually its been a while since i needed much help [18:59] since just after i started using kde i think and Tbird mail [18:59] You've been speeling all the while, no wonder [18:59] sleeping [18:59] hahaha [18:59] Kilos: maybe the Vit C has helped improving your memory? [18:59] no man nothing breaks anymore [18:59] brain cells also growing back? [18:59] hahaha [19:00] Mine also does not break when I dont use it [19:00] haha [19:00] lmga [19:00] stop it [19:00] you making me laugh me awake and its near bedtime [19:01] See what I mean by not using the thing [19:01] lol [19:01] Jy moet lekker rus my vriend [19:01] ek doen, dankie baie [19:02] never slept so much in my whole life [19:02] Bye inetpro and thks for the tip, as usual [19:02] he is actually a handy guy to have around Langjan [19:02] anytime, nag oom [19:02] Very [19:03] been my saviour many times [19:03] Dankie inetpro [19:03] uh [19:03] ok guys ty for being there [19:03] good night Kilos [19:03] sleep tight and stay safe and well [19:03] G'night Kilos [19:04] and inetpro