[00:00] <eein> hello 16.04. The bluetooth controls seems odd. I think I just figured it out but in the bluetooth settings there is a connection toggle that can't be changed
[00:01] <eein> yet in the menu bar you can turn the connection to the device on and off
[00:04] <ljetibo> Ben64: ok, up and running, I have the
[00:04] <ljetibo> I have both of the additional drivers installed as well and all the updates. Nvidia additional driver has a green light, and the intel one is half in a box
[00:04] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I have Ubuntu 16.04.  I am using Nestopia version 1.46, which works perfectly, after having installed it from a .deb file.  Ubuntu offers to update the software, but the new version breaks on my machine and I want to keep the previous version.  How do I make it ignore the Nestopia package when offering updates?
[00:05] <nacc> !pinning | Richard_Cavell
[00:05] <genii> Richard_Cavell: I already told you about !pinning the day you installed the older version
[00:06] <Richard_Cavell> Yes you did.
[00:06] <Richard_Cavell> But I didn't realize it was going to be a problem.  I think Ubuntu installed the update automatically without me having given consent to it.
[00:07] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: well, that depends on various settings. But without being told not to, yes, Ubuntu will update packages to the version in the archive (if it's later than the version installed by hand)
[00:11] <Richard_Cavell> I have done sudo apt-mark hold nestopia
[00:11] <ljetibo> anyone else that wants to help me troubleshoot whatever's wrong is free to join in. I have screen blinking issues on an Asus x751L, Intel i5 5200U ( and a nvidia 940M with Intel HD 5500 integrated gfx. Clean reinstall with all the updates, several solutions from the net tried and died.
[00:12] <Richard_Cavell> nacc: But Software Updater still offers me nestopia.  Do I just have to learn to ignore it?
[00:13] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: I don't know how software updater plays with apt-mark
[00:13] <Richard_Cavell> Okay.
[00:14] <Richard_Cavell> nacc: Also, I'm getting a lot of software updates offered for my machine.  Is that normal for 16.04 in July 2017?
[00:14] <genii> Richard_Cavell: You need to use the method using /etc/apt/preferences from the link the bot provided
[00:14] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: when did you install? when was the last time you did updates? what iso/image did you use to install?
[00:15] <oerheks> linux updates are good, better than *once*  a month
[00:17] <genii> ljetibo: Recommended driver for 940M seems to be nvidia-352, which version do you have installed? And nvidia-prime also installed
[00:17] <Richard_Cavell> genii: I don't have a file /etc/apt/preferences.  Should I create one?
[00:18] <genii> Richard_Cavell: Yes
[00:18] <Richard_Cavell> nacc: I installed a week ago from Matt Gadient's isos.  I have run updates until there were no more, but every day it seems to find new ones.
[00:19] <ljetibo> genii: the suggested version used from the system settings -- additional drivers is the 375.66 from nvidia-375 which is currently used (hopefully). The earliest version that supports the 940M is the 346 or so.
[00:19] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: i don't know what Matt Gadient is.
[00:19] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: but it's normal to get bugfixes relatively often
[00:20] <Richard_Cavell> genii: Hey, that worked!
[00:21] <Richard_Cavell> I created an /etc/apt/preferences file and inserted something that looked sensible, and now it has stopped offering me updates to that package.
[00:21] <genii> Richard_Cavell: Good :)
[00:21] <ljetibo> genii: nvidia-prime seems to be availible from the NVIDIA X Server Settings, so I assume it's up and running (not sure how else to check for it)
[00:21] <genii> ljetibo: apt-cache policy nvidia-prime
[00:22] <ljetibo> genii: installed 0.8.2, candidate 0.8.2
[00:23] <genii> ljetibo: Can you pastebin entire output from apt-cache policy nvidia-375
[00:26] <ljetibo> genii: https://pastebin.com/akNpwT5c
[00:27] <paracusia> good luck ljetibo
[00:27] <ljetibo> I have seen several "W: firmware possibly not installed i915...." during updates, but as far as I read online it's not a big deal and usually it was suggested not to hassle with the 01.org solutions.
[00:28] <ljetibo> paracusia: hey, :) thanks, I wish I knew what to ask exactly. Like this I'm just stuck bothering people. I've not had issues so far with Ubuntu, even with previous Nvidia and integrated graphics (i3 and an older 420M)
[00:30] <genii> Hm, the graphics-drivers PPA doesn't seem to have a newer version of that driver
[00:30] <paracusia> u couldnt track that loop down to a specific error message, right?
[00:31] <ljetibo> not that I noticed, there were several, and I don't know if you were here earlier when I said to Ben64: I did get an error msg first time I tried installing from .run. It said "unable to determine the path to install the liblvnf EGL vendor library config files. Check hat you have pkg-config and the libglvnd development libraries installed, or specify path with --glvnd-egl-config-path". I did apt-cache search for the two and picked two that
[00:31] <ljetibo> matched the names and had dev in it. I also did a xorg-soemthig-dev install which fixed that particular problem.
[00:32] <oerheks> genii, he used the nvidia.run file .. and now i read 01.0rg too ...
[00:32] <oerheks> i would have checked for an bios update, with your vendor, as these symptomes might be explainable
[00:33] <genii> Sounds like a mess. If you use the nvidia .run file, you have to do nvidia-uninstall before installing the regular Ubuntu drivers again
[00:33] <ljetibo> I also don't think it's the nvidia driver, I think it's the Intel 5500HD. I think this because if I observe the GPU usage in the NVIDIA X Server Settings and turn on the gif displayed in Image Viewer or Firefox (which when open stops blinking from happening) I can see the 940M usage drop to 0%. The blinking starts immediately. I turn on the gif and the usage of the 940M goes up to about 10-25% and the blinking immediately stops.
[00:33] <ljetibo> geii: I did a complete ubuntu reinstall
[00:34] <ljetibo> genii: with new updates and the lot, with additional proprietary updates as well. Just now. This is a fresh install.
[00:35] <genii> Sounds like a switchover issue, it's supposed to autoswitch between nvidia and intel depending on how intensive or not gpu usage is
[00:36] <ljetibo> genii: I wouldn't know. Maybe. The issue is that the only solution to find online is the apt-get install intel-microde
[00:36] <ljetibo> but that shouldn't do anything the additional drivers in sys. settings don't
[00:36] <genii> ljetibo: Have you tried setting it to use just the 940M in the NVidia X Server Settings?
[00:37] <ljetibo> genii: that's the currently selected option. I can try to select just the intel?
[00:37] <oerheks> microcode, if it is not older than your cpu, can do good too
[00:38] <oerheks> i thought the 01.org driver required microcode??
[00:39] <ljetibo> it does (I think) are you saying I should do an install microcode anyhow?
[00:39] <genii> Can't hurt to make sure your intel-microcode package is installed and up to date
[00:40] <ljetibo> 0 upgraded, 0 installed
[00:41] <genii> !info intel-microcode
[00:41] <genii> And obviously you have "restricted" enabled if you installed the nvidia drivers
[00:41] <ljetibo> hola, sry, if someone wrote something I didn't just see it. I had to log out and in again
[00:43] <ljetibo> I've just tried only Intel in the NVIDIA X Server Settings and it's the same, maybe a bit less blinky but hard to say
[00:44] <genii> meh :(
[00:44] <ljetibo> logging out and back in to apply the old PRIME settings
[00:45] <ljetibo> back
[00:46] <ljetibo> I've been recommended several times to just dump ubuntu and move to xubuntu or ubuntu mate
[00:46] <ljetibo> is that a potential fix? Any experiences with newer Nvidias and i5's?
[00:47] <genii> ljetibo: Did you try disabling hardware accelleration?
[00:47] <ljetibo> genii: no, where's that?
[00:47] <genii> ljetibo: Underneath they will all just use the same drivers anyhow, so it doesn't really matter which desktop
[00:51] <ljetibo> genii: ok so to check if I'm using the right drivers I did a glxinfo after installing mesa-utils and in this output https://pastebin.com/QPv4HvVk the version strings seem to be correct.
[00:52] <ljetibo> to me that is. Is there anything weird to see? Should I open a bug somewhere, maybe I can get more help in the repos?
[00:52] <genii> That looks ok
[00:53] <genii> The main problem is my brain is fuzzy since I've stayed 4 hours after I normally leave work :)
[00:55] <ljetibo> :) ah, that's fine, thx for the help. I'll be stalking the irc, askubuntu and ubuntu forums for a fix for a while now for sure. I don't really want to continue working with a perpetually opened gif somewhere. I'll catch you around for sure.
[00:55] <|Night|> hey, I'm having an issue when i scan my self i find port 8080 open, however it is blocked not whitelisted in firewall (csf) lsof does not say any service that is using it
[00:56] <|Night|> when i connect raw to it i get ssh, but that is set up on a differnet port SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.4p1 Ubuntu-10
[00:57]  * genii wanders off
[01:02] <|Night|> nvm found it, forgot i added a port redirect
[01:03] <Sgeo_> How do I copy files from ecryptfs-recover-private mount to an SMB mount? The ecryptfs-recover-private mount is owned by root apparently, and the SMB mount is owned by the current user
[01:03] <Sgeo_> And sudo cp won't let me copy to the SMB mount
[01:03] <Sgeo_> I'm running Ubuntu off of a LiveCD, if that makes a difference
[01:04] <|Night|> mount smb
[01:04] <|Night|> users and permissions also matter
[01:04] <Sgeo_> I've been doing that via Nautilus, maybe I should just do it via sudo at a command line?
[01:10] <Sgeo_> |Night|, ty, mount seemed to work, will try this
[01:10] <|Night|> i hope its not smb1.0
[01:12] <Sgeo_> I updated the relevant system recently, so I hope not too
[01:16] <Sgeo_> |Night|, it's working, thank you
[01:30] <Sgeo_> Apparently I have one file once as upper case once as lowercase.
[01:30] <Sgeo_> Unsurprisingly, CIFS doesn't seem to like that so much
[01:41] <altefour> Hey everybody, I'm a total newbie at this and I've just built my first computer/installed Ubuntu. I'm looking for a "speccy" alternative if you have any suggestions... I've tried lshw but, as I'm a bit clueless, I'm looking for something with a gui. Any thoughts? (please don't flame me)
[01:43] <Bashing-om> altefour: "speccy" alternative" .. for what ? What is the goal ?
[01:44] <luxio> altefour: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardInfo
[01:44] <altefour> Bashing-om: I'm looking for a way to have my hardware and system components clearly listed.
[01:44] <luxio> I found it by googling "linux speccy"
[01:45] <altefour> luxio: Thank you, I've seen that one among others. Just curious to know if there are any better than the rest from those who understand Ubuntu better.
[01:47] <altefour> luxio: Just installed it and it's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks for your help.
[01:47] <luxio> altefour: As you get more comfortable with Linux, command-line tools (like the aforementioned lshw) will almost always be better
[01:47] <altefour> luxio: I'm hoping to get better at the command line. I guess I've just been spoiled by windows after all these years.
[01:50] <jushur> altefour: the install media has a tool to do so.
[01:52] <Jakethepython> Hello all I am unable to ssh into my Ubuntu Server
[01:53] <luxio> Jakethepython: Are you running an ssh daemon
[01:54] <luxio> Jakethepython: if so, which ssh software
[01:54] <Jakethepython> im just in terminal of one linux ssytem going to another linux system
[01:54] <Jakethepython> usually i just SSH without needing anythign special
[01:54] <Ben64> that half answers half of the questions
[01:55] <luxio> Jakethepython: run `sudo service openssh status`
[01:55] <luxio> (on the machine you're trying to connect to)
[01:56] <Jakethepython> not found
[01:56] <Ben64> what's the full output from that command
[01:57] <Jakethepython> Loaded: Not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[01:57] <Jakethepython> active: Inactive (dead)
[01:58] <luxio> Jakethepython: apt install openssh
[01:58] <Ben64> Jakethepython: sudo systemctl status ssh
[01:58] <luxio> ^that one first
[01:58] <luxio> what Ben64 said
[01:59] <Jakethepython> same responce as service status
[02:00] <Ben64> then you need to install openssh-server
[02:00] <luxio> doesn't ubuntu ship with openssh by default
[02:00] <Ben64> not the server
[02:00] <luxio> ah
[02:00] <Jakethepython> thats what i assumed
[02:00] <Jakethepython> ohh
[02:03] <doc|work> hey, I've added a static ip alias to /etc/network/interfaces but every time I suspend the laptop it doesn't come back up without restarting /etc/init.d/networking. Aside from scripting that, anyone got any ideas how to make it work?
[02:04] <Jakethepython> now it has a key error
[02:06] <Jakethepython> fixed that
[02:28] <Jakethepython> Now for the fun part i need to reset up my RAID on 2 additinoal hdds is this possible to do after the system is installed?
[02:53] <Jakethepython> ls https://paste.linux.community/view/aec62df3
[02:53] <Jakethepython> here is my lsblk
[03:03] <Jakethepython> Failed to mount '/dev/md0': Invalid argument
[03:03] <Jakethepython> The device '/dev/md0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[03:17] <Arunangshu> how to disable bluetooth auto start on startup without removing its icon from the panel?? i am new here
[03:19] <vbotka> doc|work: you might want to install pm-utils and place your suspend/resume script in /etc/pm
[03:23] <Arunangshu> how to disable bluetooth auto start on startup without removing its icon from the panel?? i am new here
[03:26] <promet> Has anyone been unfortunate enough to experience this "nvidia-378" binary driver debacle?
[03:30] <stoner19> anyone used the Bash on Ubuntu on Windows before?
[03:30] <stoner19> can't figure out how to copy/paste into terminal
[03:34] <Phanes> shift + ins is the convention
[04:05] <blackdalek> My var/log/syslog.1 file is over 67Gb... is that normal? and is it safe to delete this file?
[04:13] <Aginor> blackdalek: it's a bit excessive, they are normally smaller
[04:14] <Aginor> blackdalek: you can safely delete it, but you might also want to investigate what caused all of those log messages in the first case
[04:14] <blackdalek> indeed
[04:30] <Jakethepython> is there a good svn client for ubuntu
[04:54] <abiQuinn> trying to get a controller working on ubuntu, xboxdrv didn't work... any ideas?
[04:59] <abiQuinn> i've got it working on the system, more specifically its steam that isn't registering it
[05:32] <timdotrb> Evening, all
[05:34] <timdotrb> We’re getting someone who’s running a Ruby script on Digital Ocean scraping our site. I was wondering what would be the best tool to detect and block this? I’m not sure if it’s something snort or psad would be good for, or if there’s a better solution to blocking them? Whenever I block an IP, they just spin up a new droplet on DO and go at it again
[05:37] <edwinksl> timdotrb: i am actually curious how you know someone is scraping you
[05:38] <timdotrb> edwinksl: I have a shell script that scans the apache access log and counts the number of times each IP appears
[05:38] <timdotrb> edwinksl: The IP is showing up ~350k times in about 6 hours
[05:38] <edwinksl> wow
[05:38] <timdotrb> They are very motivated lol
[05:39] <edwinksl> you must have some serious content
[05:39] <edwinksl> :P
[05:39] <timdotrb> The end of the line in the apache log also states that it’s ruby
[05:39] <timdotrb> This particular site has a pretty good user base ;)
[05:41] <cornel> hello
[05:42] <cornel> ?is it possible to install ubuntu server 16.04 without LVM and partitions encrypted created manually?
[05:51] <glitsj16> timdotrb: Have you considered using mod_evasive yet?
[05:51] <timdotrb> glitsj16: I have not, I am unaware of the mod..
[05:53] <timdotrb> glitsj16: looks like this could be what we are looking for, thanks :)
[05:55] <glitsj16> timdotrb: it works rather straightforward, blocking IP ranges from DO would work also, but that would stop legitamete users i guess
[05:55] <glitsj16> *legitimate
[05:55] <timdotrb> glitsj16: True. The only legitimate users from DO would be ones who’ve setup a droplet as a personal VPN, I believe..
[05:56] <glitsj16> timdotrb: indeed, and that's becoming more and more popular..
[06:12] <chaosfisch> So I installed ubuntu, but for some reason it doesn't show me grub bootloader and still boots to windows. Just to make sure I didn't miss something: I created 2 partitions, one for EFI, one ext4 / That's fine, right?
[06:17] <abiQuinn> I finally got my controller working through xboxdrv but steam sees it as player2 any ideas?
[06:33] <abiQuinn> I have a /dev/input/js0 and a /dev/input/js1 I think I need them to be the otherway round, is that possible? the /js1 is the xboxdrv of the /js0
[07:11] <abiQuinn> Can i change my primary monitor to be the right one in Kubuntu 17.04?
[08:22] <abiQuinn> hey guys, Im trying to run a command on startup, I need to know the ubuntu alternative for /etc/rc.local or/etc/rc.d/boot.local
[08:22] <abiQuinn> kubuntu 17.04 btw
[08:36] <arunkumar13> Hi All, how to check if apache is running or not
[08:36] <Triffid_Hunter> ps faux | grep apache
[08:42] <ichat> running  ubuntu  17.04 gnome, when i open software center it doesn't show any aplications.   i already tried  installing ubuntu-software with   -f  hoping to fix it... and runing it from  cli (no errors)  also changed the  mirror server  but still nothing... any thoughts?
[08:48] <abiQuinn> hey guys, Im trying to run a command on startup, I need to know the ubuntu alternative for /etc/rc.local or/etc/rc.d/boot.local Kubuntu 17.04
[08:52] <ikonia> abiQuinn: is it a command or a service
[08:52] <ikonia> abiQuinn: what exactly are you trying to do ?
[08:53] <abiQuinn> I got xboxdrv working but I have to enter it every time I start my pc so would like to automate that
[08:53] <ikonia> what do you mean "got it working"
[08:53] <ikonia> xboxdrv is a kernel module - there should be no command used for this
[08:54] <abiQuinn> sooo I run like xboxdrv with some setup arguments in konsole
[08:54] <ikonia> abiQuinn: what is the EXACT command you're running
[08:54] <abiQuinn> sudo xboxdrv --evdev /dev/input/event9 --evdev-absmap ABS_X=x1,ABS_Y=y1,ABS_RX=x2,ABS_RY=y2,ABS_Z=lt,ABS_RZ=rt,ABS_HAT0X=dpad_x,ABS_HAT0Y=dpad_y --axismap -Y1=Y1,-Y2=Y2 --evdev-keymap BTN_SOUTH=a,BTN_EAST=b,BTN_WEST=x,BTN_NORTH=y,BTN_TL=lb,BTN_TR=rb,BTN_START=start,BTN_SELECT=back,BTN_THUMBL=tl,BTN_THUMBR=tr --mimic-xpad --silent &
[08:55] <abiQuinn> just need to automate that on start up everytime
[08:55] <ikonia> abiQuinn: so for me that would logically go into your desktop start up rather than your "system" start up as you're using it in userspace
[08:55] <ikonia> and you should you really be using "sudo" dor this if you're doing this in userland
[08:56] <abiQuinn> okay I don't really know what you mean cause im really new, could you help me make it work :) <3
[08:56] <ikonia> abiQuinn: so first of all -get it working without sudo
[08:56] <ikonia> abiQuinn: you're running this as a "user" so you shoudn't need to be using sudo
[08:57] <abiQuinn> okay, i'll run it without sudo and see what happens
[08:57] <ikonia> abiQuinn: the second thing is the desktop normally has options for startup commands/session so as the desktop runs / start it launches commands
[08:57] <ikonia> abiQuinn: that would be a more logical place for this as this is specific to your user, rather than a system wide thing
[08:58] <abiQuinn> yeh okay without sudo it says, /dev/input/event9: Permission denied
[09:00] <abiQuinn> ikonia: I get permission denied with sudo?
[09:00] <abiQuinn> without*
[09:06] <ikonia> abiQuinn: ok - so what is the permissions on the binary
[09:07] <ikonia> is it the binary permissions
[09:09] <abiQuinn> ikonia: erm im not sure what you mean... I think xboxdrv accesses the root directory thats why I need to sudo no?
[09:13] <ikonia> abiQuinn: it shouldnt be in the root directory
[09:14] <ikonia> abiQuinn: thats part of the problem, why is it in the root directory
[09:14] <abiQuinn> ikonia: I mean it's accessing /dev/input/ thats in my root isn't it?
[09:15] <ikonia> abiQuinn: no
[09:15] <ikonia> abiQuinn: what is the permissions on the actual binary
[09:15] <abiQuinn> how do I check?
[09:16] <ikonia> abiQuinn: ls -la $binary_name
[09:16] <abiQuinn> would binaryname be xboxdrv?
[09:16] <ikonia> correct
[09:16] <abiQuinn> what am I looking for in this list?
[09:17] <ikonia> you should just have one line - paste it into the channel
[09:18] <abiQuinn> I did not get one line I got a long list of things
[09:18] <ikonia> abiQuinn: what was the exact command you typed
[09:18] <abiQuinn> ls -la $xboxdrv
[09:18] <ikonia> remove the $
[09:18] <abiQuinn> I get no such file now
[09:19] <ikonia> abiQuinn: ok - so you're in the wrong directory
[09:19] <abiQuinn> what directory should I be in?
[09:19] <minimec> abiQuinn: ikonia: So that xboxdrv is a driver for xbox input devices right? What if we just add a udev rule for the device?. Then wenever the device is plugged the command abiQuinn posted before will be executed. For that would be the way to go.
[09:19] <ikonia> for example, if I do ls -la notes.txt (as I want to see the permissions on a file called notes.txt) I get this -rw-r--r--  1 bob  user  31 29 Nov  2016 notes.txt
[09:20] <ikonia> minimec: thats a way yes
[09:20] <abiQuinn> minimec: someone on my otherr chat was saying run it as a daemon in udev or something
[09:20] <ikonia> minimec: I was just going to put it in the session launch so that the udev rules didn't have to be managed by someone who is learning, but a udev trigger is tidy
[09:21] <ikonia> abiQuinn: where is the file "xboxdrv" where is that on the file system
[09:21] <abiQuinn> I honestly have no idea
[09:21] <ikonia> abiQuinn: how did you install it
[09:22] <abiQuinn> apt install xboxdrv
[09:22] <ikonia> abiQuinn: ok so lets look at that package
[09:23] <ikonia> !info xboxdrv
[09:23] <ikonia> perfect, so official ubuntu repo
[09:23] <ikonia> abiQuinn: so if you do "which xboxdrv" you should see where it is
[09:23] <abiQuinn> /usr/bin/xboxdrv
[09:24] <ikonia> abiQuinn: ls -la /usr/bin/xboxdrv
[09:24] <abiQuinn> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1679184 Apr 27  2016 /usr/bin/xboxdrv
[09:29] <ikonia> abiQuinn: ok, so a non-root user should be able to run that binary
[09:29] <ikonia> abiQuinn: so thats the first hurdle
[09:29] <ikonia> so the /dev device - who owns that
[09:29] <abiQuinn> how do I check that?
[09:30] <ikonia> same way, ls -la agains the device file
[09:30] <abiQuinn> so like ls -la /dev ?
[09:30] <ikonia> abiQuinn: /dev/whateverdevice
[09:31] <abiQuinn> oh, what device are we looking for? the one xboxdrv is taking as an input?
[09:32] <ikonia> the one in your command
[09:32] <abiQuinn> ikonia: crw-rw---- 1 root input 13, 73 Jul  6 09:16 /dev/input/event9
[09:32] <ikonia> pedrovian: ok, so there is your permissions problem
[09:33] <ikonia> pedrovian: so the advice of launching it from udev trigger would be better then
[09:33] <ikonia> as you as a user will never have permissions to that device directly
[09:33] <abiQuinn> okay
[09:33] <ikonia> abiQuinn: I believe minimec had a suggestion for managing it as a udev event
[09:34] <minimec> ikonia: abiQuinn: Yeah... ;)
[09:34] <abiQuinn> minimec: be my white knight please <3
[09:35] <minimec> abiQuinn: Can you do 'lsusb' once in a terminal and give me the device ID of the device. Should look something like "1e7d:2e22"
[09:36] <abiQuinn> I believe it's this one ID 054c:05c4
[09:36] <minimec> abiQuinn: Hinweise zum Datenschutz bei Google
[09:36] <minimec> Suchergebnisse
[09:36] <minimec> Sony DualShock ;) Right...
[09:37] <abiQuinn> erm german? and yes its a DS4
[09:38] <minimec> abiQuinn: Swiss, but eventhough my environment language is english and I am living in the french part of switzerland, my firefox browser is somehow still set on german as default language...
[09:44] <abiQuinn> whats next minimec?
[09:44] <minimec> abiQuinn: Hang on... ;)
[09:46] <abiQuinn> ok no worries :D
[09:47] <minimec> abiQuinn: ikonia: So my idea would go in this direction: 1. create a file '/etc/udev/rules.d/xboxdrv.rules' with this content... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25031073/ 2. Do 'sudo udevadm control --reload-rules' to reload the udev rules. 3. Unplug/replug the device.
[09:47] <minimec> abiQuinn: Let's see what happens.
[09:48] <abiQuinn> you're gonna guide me through that right minimec ? :S
[09:49] <Halleluia> Hi all
[09:50] <minimec> abiQuinn: 'sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/xboxdrv.rules' and paste the content of http://paste.ubuntu.com/25031073/
[09:51] <abiQuinn> erm gedit command not found?
[09:52] <Halleluia> minimec good morning
[09:52] <abiQuinn> more specifically 'sudo: gedit: command not found'
[09:53] <minimec> abiQuinn: Oh.. you're on kubuntu. Use the terminal editor then 'sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/xboxdrv.rules'
[09:53] <minimec> abiQuinn: <ctrl><shift>v to paste; <ctrl>x to save
[09:54] <abiQuinn> done
[09:54] <Halleluia> abiQuinn Don't copy '
[09:54] <minimec> abiQuinn: 'sudo udevadm control --reload-rules'
[09:55] <abiQuinn> xD Halleluia im a newb but that much I know
[09:55] <Halleluia> abiQuinn LOL... Great
[09:55] <abiQuinn> done minimec
[09:56] <Halleluia> Halleluia bows to minimec
[09:56] <minimec> abiQuinn: unplug/plug the device and look in 'dmesg' (the last 5-10 lines) how the deivce is recognized.
[09:56] <abiQuinn> how do I look in 'dmesg' sorry if thats a dumb question
[09:57] <minimec> abiQuinn: Also have a look in '/dev/input'. Hopefully you have a 'dualshock' device in there now.
[09:59] <abiQuinn> erm minimec sorry im really a noob... devices show the dualshock 4 controller though... I don't know how to look in dmesg, where is that?
[10:00] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: Just type 'dmesg' in terminal
[10:01] <abiQuinn> erm is okay to paste like 10 lines here? I know some people dislike it
[10:02] <minimec> abiQuinn: Don't paste here... You can 'sudo apt install pastebinit' and then 'dmesg | pasteinit' and share the link.
[10:03] <abiQuinn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25031158/
[10:03] <abiQuinn> just did the last section for you
[10:05] <minimec> abiQuinn: That looks normal. So you have a '/dev/input/dualshock' device now right? Try to use the device now in a game. If we are lucky... ;) But... we might have to tune that udev rule...
[10:06] <abiQuinn> erm, I have dev/input/js0 which I think is the device
[10:07] <abiQuinn> I seem to have no input in steam
[10:08] <abiQuinn> which I gathered would be the case, if xboxdrv runs correctly I should have js0 (ds4) and js1 (xboxdrv created xbox360 gamepad)
[10:10] <abiQuinn> oh I see you've done some renaming so I should actually see "dualshock" minimec, thats not there
[10:13] <minimec> abiQuinn: Can you replace the content of our xboxdrv.rules file with this once... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25031341/
[10:14] <minimec> abiQuinn: Don't forget to 'sudo udevadm control --reload-rules' after the change.
[10:15] <killall> Hello, as I understand ubuntu has multiple clipboards, how do i make it has only one?
[10:16] <abiQuinn> minimec: done, uplugged and replugged, still no /dev/input/dualshock
[10:19] <minimec> abiQuinn: Try 'ls /dev | grep dualshock' once. Just to be sure...
[10:20] <abiQuinn> it responded with a salmon coloured 'dualshock'
[10:20] <minimec> abiQuinn: Good. So it is there somewhere...
[10:21] <abiQuinn> ooh I found a file in dev called dualshock
[10:22] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. So we change our rule file and replace '/dev/input/dualshock' with '/dev/dualshock' in the 'RUN+' section.
[10:23] <minimec> abiQuinn: and... reload the rules ... 'sudo udevadm control --reload-rules'
[10:24] <abiQuinn> kay done
[10:25] <minimec> abiQuinn: unplug/plug... and test... ;)
[10:25] <abiQuinn> still doesn't seem to be creating the xboxdrv xbox360 gamepad
[10:26] <abiQuinn> is dualshock like symlinked to the event that belongs to the controller or something? is that what we're rtying to achieve?
[10:27] <minimec> abiQuinn: exactly.
[10:27] <abiQuinn> ok, at least my understanding is somewhat correct :D
[10:29] <abiQuinn> so because the command is running from udev, we don't need sudo before the xboxdrv?
[10:29] <minimec> abiQuinn: We should not need to, because the system is running the command and not the user.
[10:29] <abiQuinn> ok
[10:30] <minimec> abiQuinn: You can once try to 'sudo xboxdrv --evdev /dev/dualshock --evdev-absmap ABS_X=x1,ABS_Y=y1,ABS_RX=x2,ABS_RY=y2,ABS_Z=lt,ABS_RZ=rt,ABS_HAT0X=dpad_x,ABS_HAT0Y=dpad_y --axismap -Y1=Y1,-Y2=Y2 --evdev-keymap BTN_SOUTH=a,BTN_EAST=b,BTN_WEST=x,BTN_NORTH=y,BTN_TL=lb,BTN_TR=rb,BTN_START=start,BTN_SELECT=back,BTN_THUMBL=tl,BTN_THUMBR=tr --mimic-xpad --silent &' in the terminal. See what happens.
[10:31] <abiQuinn> I was just about to
[10:33] <abiQuinn> Error Operation not permitted minimec
[10:35] <abiQuinn> I would guess that means the /dev/dualshock part isn't working as intended minimec?
[10:37] <minimec> abiQuinn: No. I don't think so.
[10:37] <abiQuinn> ok
[10:38] <minimec> abiQuinn: Can you once unplug the device and then 'sudo xboxdrv --detach-kernel-driver'; then plug the device?
[10:39] <abiQuinn> done
[10:40] <abiQuinn> /dev/dualshock exists /dev/input/js0 doesn't exist anymore even though the device is plugged in
[10:40] <minimec> abiQuinn: and?
[10:41] <Halleluia> abuQuinn: Issue resolved?
[10:41] <abiQuinn> so now I have no registered joysticks
[10:41] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: Issue resolved?
[10:41] <abiQuinn> I don't believe so Halleluia
[10:41] <Halleluia> OMG!
[10:42] <abiQuinn> is it that surprising? Halleluia eveything I've tried to get working has tkaen about this long or more xD
[10:43] <abiQuinn> yeh minimec I have no registered joystick now :)
[10:43] <Halleluia> minimec is good I know that for sure... you know abiQuinn: minimec told me yesterday best option was to reinstall ubuntu, I thought he was just .... you know, so i checked out google and everywhere for answer yet none like he said. hence I believe him. If he can;t solve yours no one can. Just my thought though
[10:44] <abiQuinn> ok thanks for the info Halleluia I got full faith in minimec :D
[10:44] <Halleluia> Great!
[10:45] <minimec> Halleluia: No... I did not tell you that. I would have tried other things... Were the guy that installed some tools with a script right? I normally debug first, before I reinstall... ;)
[10:46] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:46] <minimec> BluesKaj: Greetings.
[10:46] <BluesKaj> hi minimec
[10:46] <VividEm> i installed word press on amazon servers and i have the wordpress.com desktop app. can this be used to access amazon's installation of wordpres?
[10:48] <minimec> abiQuinn: So if we roll back once for a try. 'sudo mv /etc/udev/rules.d/xboxdrv.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/.xboxdrv.rules', then 'sudo udevadm control --reload-rules'
[10:49] <Halleluia> minimec: yes but I finally took to the hills and reinstalled and I'm good to go. By the way, the term backup has always been my first step before anything 3rd party software. LOL... Just being safe
[10:49] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: greetings
[10:50] <minimec> abiQuinn: You should now have the state of the system as before without the rule. Try to initialize the device as you were used before.
[10:50] <BluesKaj> hi Halleluia
[10:50] <abiQuinn> ok minimec
[10:50] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: Any plans for today?
[10:51] <BluesKaj> yeah, a little yardwork..how about you Halleluia?
[10:52] <abiQuinn> okay minimec I has /js0 back now, so I could run xboxdrv and set it all up like I did before now and it would work
[10:54] <minimec> abiQuinn: Just for a try. I want to see how that xboxdrv module works. Can you initialize the device as you did before?
[10:54] <abiQuinn> I can
[10:54] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: I see a pattern... Trying to run with Kali-linux tools. Gotta learn some stuffs
[10:55] <abiQuinn> do you want the resource I used to learn to set it up?
[10:55] <minimec> abiQuinn: And you always use '/dev/input/event9' in your command?
[10:55] <abiQuinn> minimec: https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/558748653738497361/?ctp=3
[10:55] <abiQuinn> minimec: erm, I've only done it once and the guide suggests to find the event
[10:56] <abiQuinn> minimec: yeh and it's not event9 this time so that would change
[10:57] <minimec> abiQuinn: So you always have to change your command. That's why we try to work with the SYMLINK, so that the command always stays the same.
[10:57] <BluesKaj> dunno much about kali-linux, never used it, Halleluia ...it's not supported here
[10:58] <abiQuinn> I get that minimec, I realised thats what you were trying to do earlier
[11:00] <abiQuinn> minimec: could it be worth trying again with the KERNEL version of the pastebin rather than the USB subsystem version incase I just missed where the dualshock file was saved?
[11:00] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: I know... just looking and playing around it... It gives me the heebeegeebees
[11:02] <minimec> abiQuinn: Good idea, but you would have to modify the RUN+ section to match the location '/dev/dualshock'. Dont' forget to reload the rules afterwards...
[11:03] <minimec> abiQuinn: and 'sudo mv /etc/udev/rules.d/.xboxdrv.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/xboxdrv.rules' first
[11:03] <abiQuinn> yep done all that
[11:04] <abiQuinn> okay minimec with the kernel version, dualshock doesn't appear in /dev/ or /dev/input/
[11:05] <abiQuinn> and /dev/input/js0 still exists
[11:07] <BluesKaj> Halleluia,  it became popular after it was shown on Mr Robot with the i3wm
[11:08] <minimec> abiQuinn: Yeah... It's because 'uinput' is not in the default ubuntu kernel anymore. That's why I removed it from our rule.
[11:08] <abiQuinn> minimec: ok, I'll revert it back to the usb subsystem verion then
[11:10] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: xD ... please I'll prefer not to laugh
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Halleluia,  it's true ...fanboys are everywhere :-)
[11:15] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. We try to add something to our rule... Change the rule to look like this. Just leave the RUN+ part untouched...
[11:16] <minimec> abiQuinn: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="05c4", OWNER="xboxdrv", GROUP="xboxdrv", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="dualshock",\
[11:17] <minimec> abiQuinn: Did you have to add your user to a xboxdrv group once?
[11:17] <abiQuinn> I don't believe so minimec
[11:19] <abiQuinn> that doesn't seem to have worked either minimec, someone I was talking to a while ago said something about running xboxdrv as a daemon?
[11:19] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. So use GROUP="plugdev" instead of "xboxdrv"
[11:20] <abiQuinn> still no /dev/input/js1 created by xboxdrv minimec (thats what i'm using to check, is that right?)
[11:24] <abiQuinn> hang-on minimec I made a mistake
[11:24] <Halleluia> seriously?
[11:24] <minimec> abiQuinn: Looks like xboxdrv is creating som js* device
[11:25] <abiQuinn> when I swapped from kernel back to subsystem I forgot to change /dev/dualshock
[11:25] <abiQuinn> let me try these again with that change
[11:25] <minimec> abiQuinn: Oh... ;) and always reload the rules...
[11:26] <minimec> abiQuinn: Still I am pessimistic, as I don't even know if a user is in the 'plugdev' group per default...
[11:27] <abiQuinn> yeh still nothing minimec :(
[11:32] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. We change "usb" in SUBSYSTEM to "input". That should give you '/dev/input/dualshock', instead of '/dev/dualshock'. We remove 'OWNER' and 'GROUP'...
[11:32] <abiQuinn> minimec ok :)
[11:32] <minimec> abiQuinn: You will again have to change the RUN+ part to match /dev/input/dualshock
[11:33] <abiQuinn> minimec: I'm going to reboot quick
[11:33] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok.
[11:35] <abiQuinn> minimec: hey okay what are we doing?
[11:37] <abiQuinn> ah damn it, still nothing as far as I can tell minimec
[11:37] <minimec> abiQuinn: Is 'dualshock in '/dev/input' now. That alone looks nicer to me, even though it's cosmetic
[11:38] <abiQuinn> it's still in dev by the look of it
[11:38] <minimec> abiQuinn: Can you give me the current content of the rules file?
[11:39] <abiQuinn> how would I do that?
[11:40] <minimec> abiQuinn: 'cat /etc/udev/rules.d/xboxdrv.rules | pastebinit' Share the link
[11:41] <abiQuinn> ok have to install pastebin first
[11:42] <abiQuinn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25031685/
[11:47] <minimec> abiQuinn: Looks ok, besides the fact that we link to '/dev/input/dualshock' again. Try SYMLINK+="input/dualshock". Once I want that link in the /dev/input folder.
[11:48] <abiQuinn> well small success we got it to be /dev/input/dualshock
[11:49] <minimec> abiQuinn: Indeed... Even with that udev rule you should be able to initialize the device as you did it before. Try that once.
[11:50] <abiQuinn> using the dualshock symlink or by searching through the events?
[11:52] <minimec> abiQuinn: TRy with 'events' first.
[11:53] <Halleluia> minimec: what IRC client you use?
[11:55] <minimec> Halleluia: There is only one I think for linux... It's called 'irssi' ;)
[11:55] <Halleluia> minimec: Great! That's what I'm using. but how do I scroll up and see formal typos in terminal
[11:58] <minimec> Halleluia: PageUp/Down. I modify the behaviour to only scroll one line. Also I configure my mouse so that I can use my mouse wheel.
[11:58] <abiQuinn> okay doing it the normal way through konsole works fine minimec using event14
[11:59] <abiQuinn> a friend of mine recommended irssi but im on weechat at the moment
[11:59] <Halleluia> minimec: Finish up with abiQuinn then we will face mine by editing irssi/terminal as you did yours. Thanks
[12:00] <abiQuinn> xD Halleluia I feel bad I've been making minimec work hard for some time now :L
[12:00] <oerheks_> Halleluia, there are more volunteers, state your issue
[12:01] <oerheks_> and perhaps #irssi is the chanel to be, for tweaking/setup
[12:01] <minimec> abiQuinn: What does /dev/input/dualshock link to? 'ls -l /dev/input/dualshock'
[12:01] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: Believe me, minimec is such a zuckerberg
[12:02] <abiQuinn> ooh minimec, it links to event13
[12:02] <minimec> I am just doing some multitasking. I am cleaning my office right now... ;)
[12:02] <Halleluia> oerheks_: Thanks. How do I scroll up to see earlier messages in terminal using irssi
[12:03] <rory> page up
[12:03] <Halleluia> rory: it doesn't here
[12:03] <abiQuinn> ahhhh okay minimec event 13 is for the controllers touchpad... event14 is the one we want
[12:03] <minimec> abiQuinn: Hmmm... Why would that be... So unplug/plug the device and check again...
[12:03] <Halleluia> page up
[12:03] <rory> alt+p ?
[12:04] <oerheks_> shift pgup/down?
[12:04] <Halleluia> ok page down?
[12:04] <Halleluia> can't see your typos now cos I'm at the top of the page
[12:04] <abiQuinn> yeh, minimec its symlinking to the touchpad's event, we want the controller
[12:04] <minimec> abiQuinn: ... then 'dmesg | pastebinit' I want to see how the device is initalized by the system. I cretes two 'events' then...
[12:05] <oerheks_> use /scrollback or /sb to make it scroll back in the logs.
[12:05] <abiQuinn> minimec I think it makes 3 but yeh I'll give you a pastebinit
[12:06] <abiQuinn> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25031770/
[12:07] <RazorSharpFang> Is Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS still good?
[12:07] <ikonia> yes
[12:08] <minimec> abiQuinn: So now the dualshock would link to 'input31', while you want 'input32'?
[12:08] <Halleluia> I'm on it... I hope it;s the best
[12:08] <RazorSharpFang> I just upgraded from 12.04
[12:08] <Halleluia> Thanks guys learnt about the page up and down issue
[12:08] <abiQuinn> minimec: yes :)
[12:09] <doonie> hi all, having problems with installing php for some reason, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25031785/
[12:09] <Halleluia> rory: oerheks_ Thanks
[12:09] <oerheks_> have fun, Halleluia
[12:09] <abiQuinn> minimec: that input number changes everytime I unplug it and plug it back in though
[12:09] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: It works now?
[12:09] <abiQuinn> nooo :(((( Halleluia
[12:09] <doonie> I did an upgrade from 14 to 16lts, not that it should matter too much.. As I did the same upgrade on another similar server earlier today. not sure how to get around this problem
[12:10] <oerheks_> doonie, did you run updates properly before installing?
[12:10] <Halleluia> oerheks_: Yes boss!
[12:10] <minimec> abiQuinn: That is to be expected...
[12:10] <doonie> yes apt update and apt dist-upgrade are all installed
[12:11] <abiQuinn> this seems like a real headscratcher minimec :( if only my controller didn't have a touchpad xD
[12:11] <BluesKaj> doonie,   full-upgrade
[12:11] <oerheks_> doonie, ah, 7.0.21-1~ubuntu16.04.1+deb.sury.org+1  says you use ondej ppa??
[12:11] <doonie> oerheks_: correct
[12:11] <oerheks_> ppa-purge is what you want
[12:12] <BluesKaj> dist-upgrade only works on debian
[12:12] <doonie> BluesKaj:  never heard of that one, but it shows 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. as well
[12:12] <doonie> I've been using dist-upgrade for ages though heh ups
[12:12] <doonie> ppa-purge will try
[12:13] <doonie> what do I want to purge though
[12:13] <oerheks_> use the regular php/apache2 from our repos, no need for ondrej
[12:13] <oerheks_> !ppapurge
[12:14] <BluesKaj> doonie, as long as you upgraded to the latest 14.04 packages before installing 16,04 lts
[12:14]  * oerheks_ wonders why that PPA survived distro upgrade
[12:14] <doonie> ah that i did not BluesKaj, not the last machine
[12:14] <doonie> would think that do-release-upgrade would handle it
[12:14] <doonie> or was hoping so
[12:15] <BluesKaj> do-release-upgrade looks at 16.04 not 14.04
[12:16] <doonie> so dist vs full-upgrade always go for full
[12:16] <BluesKaj> yes
[12:18] <doonie> phew that worked, you are awesome guys, my saviours
[12:19] <BluesKaj> doonie,  actually sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade will do the job too
[12:19] <doonie> just avoid dist-upgrade? i thought it was the same ;D
[12:19] <BluesKaj> not anymore
[12:20] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. So in our rules file, after 'ATTRS{idProduct}=="0841",' you add 'ATTRS{id}=="Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller Touchpad",'. Maybe that helps...
[12:20] <doonie> ok good to know
[12:20] <BluesKaj> !dist-upgrade
[12:20] <Halleluia> BRB
[12:21] <abiQuinn> wait minimec we're adding "touchpad" ?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> doonie,  correction you're right, it still works
[12:23] <doonie> migt be plans to phase it out maye
[12:23] <minimec> abiQuinn: You said that dualshock links to eventX, while you want it to link to 'eventX+1', and according to your dmesg output the latest input event that is created is for 'Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller Touchpad'
[12:23] <doonie> might*
[12:23] <BluesKaj> well, learned something today that I thought was no longer valid , oops :-)
[12:24] <abiQuinn> minimec: so it is... how strange
[12:25] <abiQuinn> minimec: that may have worked, Im gonna double check now
[12:25] <adas0496>     
[12:27] <abiQuinn> nope minimec input/dualshock doesn't exist now and the /js1 xboxdrv made doesn't work
[12:27] <abiQuinn> the/js1 may be left over from when I manually did it earlier
[12:29] <minimec> abiQuinn: I never worked with 'ATTRS{id}==' before but I guess we go in the right direction.
[12:30] <minimec> abiQuinn: I need a break now. Stay tuned. Maybe in a hour or two I am ready to try again...
[12:31] <abiQuinn> okay, minimec, just hit me up I'll leave weechat open
[12:32] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok.
[12:36] <m0j0dj0dj0> Hi, anyone got connexion issues with tor + systemd under 17.04 ? (No circuits are opened)
[12:36] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. I think I have the solution, but still have to give my brain some air. ;)
[12:38] <abiQuinn> minimec: take your time bud :)
[12:41] <abiQuinn> minimec: maybe this is helpful, file:///dev/input/by-id/usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick is a link to the correct event we want that is auto created.
[12:44] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. Use that one once in the RUN+ part instead of '/dev/input/dualshock'. That should work.
[12:47] <abiQuinn> still no, minimec
[12:51] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: You have't done that yet?
[12:51] <abiQuinn> nope Halleluia it's being a real pain xD
[12:53] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: Don't like that. Thought you said it was working fine earlier
[12:53] <abiQuinn> minimec, if I do sudo [the run part] in konsole it works fine
[12:53] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: it works fine if I do it manually we are trying to get it to automate
[12:54] <Halleluia> Hmmmmmm... abiQuinn: minimec: You guys are almost there anyway
[12:55] <abiQuinn> we are Halleluia, minimec just wanted a break which I can understand
[12:55] <Halleluia> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-58-generic
[12:55] <Halleluia> W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin for module i915
[12:55] <Halleluia> Sorry... guys. *mistypo
[12:55] <abiQuinn> bless you
[12:57] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: Break? Yes minimec: needs it
[12:57] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: agreed
[12:57] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: You too
[12:58] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: nah he's been doing all the heavy work :P
[12:59] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: I wonder when I'll get to such note
[13:00] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: im not entirely sure what you mean by note in that sentence
[13:01] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: I mean being the realm of minimec... How great to see him help. You know!
[13:03] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: I don't imagine I'm ever gonna be that good but this is only my second day using linux soo
[13:09] <whoami1> is their any difference between reverse engineer a file in 32 bit env or 64 bit env?
[13:09] <DarkPsydeLord> some of the variables and routes might change
[13:34] <blanko> Hello
[13:34] <blanko> all
[13:34] <blanko> need little help
[13:35] <blanko>  API mismatch: the client has the version 375.66, but
[13:35] <blanko>                  NVRM: this kernel module has the version 375.39.  Please
[13:35] <blanko>                  NVRM: make sure that this kernel module and all NVIDIA driver
[13:35] <blanko>                  NVRM: components have the same version.
[13:35] <blanko> API mismatch: the client has the version 375.how to fix this shit
[13:35] <blanko> thanks
[13:39] <Fuchs> blanko: this usually happens when you install the driver manually via the installer instead of properly via the ubuntu provided .deb
[13:40] <Fuchs> blanko: remove it via the manual installer and re-install the ubuntu provided driver.
[13:41] <blanko> Ok thanks i will try soon
[14:04] <Halleluia> abiQuinn
[14:04] <Halleluia> minimec
[14:04] <Halleluia> All done?
[14:04] <Halleluia> !seen minimec
[14:05] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: haven't heard from him in a while
[14:05] <Halleluia> WAOH
[14:05] <pnwise> Anyone else having problems playing youtube videos with chromium on 16.04 ?
[14:05] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: he was taking a break, its fine. though I do hope he comes back soon
[14:06] <Halleluia> abiQuinn he will...
[14:06] <Halleluia> pnwise why not chrome insead of chromium
[14:07] <compdoc> pnwise, no, works for me
[14:07] <compdoc> true, I use Chrome instead
[14:08] <BluesKaj> pnwise, use chrome it has an embedded modified flash that will play both HTML5 and flash on youtube etc sites
[14:08] <pnwise> Halleluia because I do not like the closed parts
[14:08] <pnwise> I wont use chrome
[14:09] <BluesKaj> oh lord, another google hater
[14:09] <pnwise> I asked simple question and you come to tell me to use something else instead without even knowing what is the problem
[14:10] <pnwise> And I am not google hater
[14:10] <abiQuinn> is anyone here good with udev that wants to take over from where minimec left off with me?
[14:10] <Halleluia> BluesKaj never can tell what happens with people
[14:10] <pnwise> Literally asked if someone else have problem with particular program on particular site, and two people come to tell me "hurr durr you shouldn't use this, use that"
[14:11] <minimec> abiQuinn:
[14:11] <abiQuinn> :O
[14:11] <BluesKaj> chromiuim might work with pepper flash,  not sure
[14:11] <abiQuinn> minimec: I wasn't trying to outsource you I swear <3
[14:11] <ioria> pnwise, what's your  issue ?
[14:11] <minimec> abiQuinn: I have an idea, but I just washing my cltothes... Give me yet some time...
[14:11] <abiQuinn> no worries minimec :D
[14:12] <minimec> abiQuinn: It's cleaning day today... ;)
[14:13] <BluesKaj> pnwise, chromium should work on youtube, mosy of the video works with HTML5 , altho they still have some old flash based video as well
[14:13] <BluesKaj> mosy=most
[14:13] <pnwise> ioria youtube just shows An error occurred, please try again later, but it used to work yesterday and I haven't updated. Videos play fine with firefox
[14:13] <Halleluia> LOL abiQuinn and minimec
[14:14] <ioria> pnwise,  so videos not working with chromium ?
[14:16] <pnwise> yeah, but the error is returned from youtube, it is not like "this plugin is no supported".
[14:16] <DaSpawn> this boot space issue is killing me, every damn time I update I have to battle with space now
[14:16] <DaSpawn> WHY does this stupid think keep trying to build initrd.img for all of the removed v3 images?
[14:17] <ioria> pnwise,  nothing changes if you reload the page with f5 ?
[14:17] <DArqueBishop> pnwise: are you using any ad or script blocking extensions?
[14:17] <DaSpawn> I end up with half a dozen of the old 3.13.0-91 etc kernels for no reason
[14:17] <DaSpawn> all of that has been removed/uninstalled long ago
[14:18] <pnwise> DArqueBishop, Thanks it turns out youtube blocks adblocker plus. totally forgot I have that
[14:18] <pnwise> I guess now I will have to watch youtube ads
[14:18] <DArqueBishop> pnwise: try uBlock Origin. YouTube doesn't block that one.
[14:19] <DaSpawn> ublock origin can also block adblock blocks
[14:19] <pnwise> :D thanks will take a look at it
[14:19] <abiQuinn> minimec: if we get xboxdrv working theres another step I have to do afterwards that I think might be even trickier :L
[14:21] <fiter> I have given a command on linux in R, I am getting following error : /usr/local/fsl/bin/fslstats: error while loading shared libraries: libnewimage.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Error in system(cmd, intern = TRUE) : error in running command
[14:22] <aleksa> I have a problem with certain websites that do have https. Sometimes Firefox doesn't load them, not all of https sites, but many. In order to bypass that, I need to restart the router for 10 seconds and then I reload the pages. First I thought that the problem concerns the router, but, on the same PC I've got Windows 10 that perfectly loads the same pages I can't load on Ubuntu without restarting the router. What could be the cause, and how to fix it?
[14:22] <ikonia> fiter: I suspect how you have installed R/Shiney will not be complete
[14:22] <ikonia> it's missing a shared library, or doesn't know how to look for it
[14:23] <fiter> ikonia: here is complete error http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032415/
[14:23] <ikonia> fiter: doesn't change what I've said
[14:24] <fiter> ikonia: yeah but to make it clear
[14:26] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok can you once plug the device and do "ls dev/input/by-id/usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick | awk '{print $NF}' FS=/" ?
[14:26] <abiQuinn> minimec: yes
[14:27] <abiQuinn> minimec: Output: usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick
[14:28] <ioria> !info fsl-5.0-core  xenial | fiter
[14:28] <minimec> abiQuinn: Oh...
[14:28] <minimec> abiQuinn: "ls -l /dev/input/by-id/usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick | awk '{print $NF}
[14:29] <sipior> aleksa: it would be incredibly useful to know what error firefox gave when the site failed to load, if any. also, were you using firefox on the windows machine as well?
[14:29] <abiQuinn> minimec: Output: event14
[14:29] <minimec> abiQuinn: Very good... ;)
[14:31] <minimec> abiQuinn: now... "xboxinput=$(ls -l /dev/input/by-id/usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick | awk '{print $NF}' FS=/)" ; then "echo $xboxinput" Output should be the same.
[14:31] <Halleluia> minimec: abiQuinn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032446/
[14:32] <BluesKaj> aleksa, try the 'HTTPSeverywhere' extention
[14:32] <BluesKaj> extension rather
[14:33] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032446/
[14:34] <abiQuinn> erm minimec Im not sure whats happening or how to explain
[14:35] <abiQuinn> minimec: never mind I fixed it, output is the same
[14:36] <aleksa> sipior, it gives 404 Error, page not found. And yes, same Firefox on Windows.
[14:36] <aleksa> BluesKaj, I'll try it ;)
[14:36] <Halleluia> ERROR...... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032446/     HELP
[14:37] <minimec> abiQuinn: Good. Now we change the udev rule fule. Basically we isolate the 'eventX', save it to a $variable and try to initialize the device with that $variable... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032476/
[14:37] <aleksa> For example, cannot load https://www.teamspeak.com/ without restarting the router.
[14:38] <minimec> abiQuinn: Wait... wrong paste...
[14:38] <abiQuinn> ooh ok
[14:38] <aleksa> or https://tools.pingdom.com/
[14:38] <sipior> aleksa: what sort of router, and how long does it work after a restart?
[14:38] <aleksa> the common thing is this "https"
[14:39] <aleksa> sipior, I need to refresh the page right after it gets reconnected. And for how long can I load it?  I believe, maybe whole day. The next day it requires restart.
[14:39] <minimec> abiQuinn: --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032497/
[14:39] <aleksa> sipior, the router is netis .
[14:40] <aleksa> actually, there is no 404 error, but: Server not found, on Firefox
[14:40] <minimec> abiQuinn: Do the changes, then 'sudo udevadm control --reload-rules', unplug/plug and pray... ;)
[14:41] <aleksa> on chromium: This site can’t be reached www.teamspeak.com’s server DNS address could not be found. DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
[14:41] <Halleluia> ERROR...... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032446/     HELP
[14:41] <oerheks_> aleksa, did you try to remove the chromium/firefox config and start with a clean browser?
[14:42] <abiQuinn> erm minimec I missed the pray step, sorry :l
[14:42] <aleksa> oerheks_, I didn't, but there are no special configs for my browsers. I primarily use Firefox and I've installed Chromium recently just to check if it could load it.
[14:42] <abiQuinn> is there some way we can debug it minimec ?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> Halleluia, try , sudo dpkg --configure -a, then, sudo apt -f install .. no guranees , but it works sometimes
[14:43] <BluesKaj> guarntees
[14:43] <aleksa> Great, I can't even load "https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/https-everywhere/" without restarting the router, which I'm not gonna do now, cause I'm connected to freenode. Freenode also requires restart :(
[14:44] <sipior> aleksa: this is more promising. can you try connecting directly from the terminal? have a go with "telnet www.teamspeak.com 443" (or some other broken site) and see what happens. it is very likely a dns problem, though it's not clear to me why it should only affect https connections.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> aleksa, restarting the router won't do anyting
[14:44] <aleksa> This is serious trouble that I've started experiencing half a year ago.
[14:44] <aleksa> sipior, telnet: could not resolve www.teamspeak.com/443: Name or service not known
[14:45] <sipior> aleksa: lose the slash
[14:45] <aleksa> This is what I wrote "telnet www.teamspeak.com 443"
[14:45] <abiQuinn> minimec: the code in the RUN should work so maybe it's not running?
[14:45] <aleksa> And they've added slash in output
[14:45] <minimec> abiQuinn: Well.. you could "xboxinput=$(ls -l /dev/input/by-id/usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick | awk '{print $NF}' FS=/)" and then "xboxdrv --evdev /dev/input/$xboxinput --evdev-absmap ABS_X=x1,ABS_Y=y1,ABS_RX=x2,ABS_RY=y2,ABS_Z=lt,ABS_RZ=rt,ABS_HAT0X=dpad_x,ABS_HAT0Y=dpad_y --axismap -Y1=Y1,-Y2=Y2 --evdev-keymap
[14:46] <minimec> BTN_SOUTH=a,BTN_EAST=b,BTN_WEST=x,BTN_NORTH=y,BTN_TL=lb,BTN_TR=rb,BTN_START=start,BTN_SELECT=back,BTN_THUMBL=tl,BTN_THUMBR=tr --mimic-xpad --silent &" in the terminal to try if it works.
[14:46] <sipior> aleksa: can you try "dig www.teamspeak.com"?
[14:46] <abiQuinn> minimec: I'll try it
[14:47] <sipior> aleksa: is your router running any sort of web proxy?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> or bad dns entries?
[14:48] <aleksa> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032529/
[14:48] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: same problem
[14:48] <aleksa> sipior, not that I'm aware of. It's restarted on fabric config.
[14:49] <sipior> aleksa: ah, the joys of the systemd resolver
[14:49] <abiQuinn> minimec: output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25032534/
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Halleluia, try installing the last listed dependency
[14:49] <abiQuinn> oh wait, minimec I didn't sudp
[14:50] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: Ok
[14:50] <fiter> ubottu: what you said , could you please elaborate it ??
[14:50] <minimec> abiQuinn: right... you need 'sudo' in the terminal.
[14:50] <sipior> aleksa: try manually changing the dns entry for your connection to 8.8.8.8 (google), and see if that doesn't solve your problem.
[14:51] <abiQuinn> minimec: it works fine in konsole all of our RUN"" things we've tried work in konsole
[14:51] <aleksa> sipior, manually in Ubuntu or in router settings?
[14:51] <Halleluia> BluesKaj: same
[14:51] <sipior> aleksa: in ubuntu
[14:51] <minimec> abiQuinn: I would say that this is a progress! ;)
[14:52] <abiQuinn> minimec: could it be that the rules file doesn't start with a number like 60-xboxdrv.rules?
[14:52] <fiter> ioria:  what is meant by this statement !info fsl-5.0-core  xenial???
[14:52] <sipior> aleksa: you'll also want to restart your browser before trying another connection
[14:52] <BluesKaj> aleksa, which ubuntu version, you may be dealing with dns problems as suggested earlier . Try this and pastebin the output, systemd-resolve --status
[14:52] <aleksa> sipior, "method -> manual", only HTTP proxy?
[14:53] <aleksa> not https proxy?
[14:53] <sipior> aleksa: no proxy, please
[14:53] <ioria> fiter, the lib and the binary you 're looking for  are in that pkg: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/fsl-5.0-core/filelist
[14:53] <aleksa> sipior, oh, sorry, I've mixed DNS with proxy. But now I don't have an idea how to change DNS in ubuntu, I'll google it
[14:54] <BluesKaj> aleksa, read my post above
[14:54] <minimec> abiQuinn: Oh.. Yes. Try that. Just add a number higher than the highest.., Reload the rules afterwards... ;)
[14:54] <sipior> aleksa: also, i'd be curious to see your response to BluesKaj's question. it might be that the service isn't running.
[14:54] <ioria> fiter, but you probably installed it manually from other sources
[14:54] <fiter> I installed FSL from Ubuntu Software store
[14:55] <fiter> ioria: ~~
[14:55] <minimec> abiQuinn: Not higher than '99'
[14:55] <aleksa> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032567/
[14:56] <ioria> fiter,  and installed it in /usr/local/ ?
[14:56] <abiQuinn> minimec: I have a 60-ssd-scheduler so I made it 61-xboxdrv.rules ... still not working
[14:57] <BluesKaj> alexas, no dns servers shown there
[14:58] <sipior> aleksa: try "systemctl status systemd-resolved.service", and then try swapping "status" with "restart".
[14:58] <BluesKaj> oops aleksa
[14:58] <sipior> aleksa: preface that with, "sudo", of course.
[14:58] <fiter> ioria: I am not getting where it is installed.
[14:59] <ioria> fiter,  apt-cache policy  fsl-5.0-core
[14:59] <svip> I want to remove a package (several in fact), but apt keeps saying there are unmet dependencies, but these refer to other packages.
[14:59] <svip> How can I get apt to remove my packages, without me having to resolve the unrelated issue?
[15:00] <aleksa> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032585/
[15:00] <aleksa> And restarting it didn't help me load the pages.
[15:00] <svip> Because the issues are not entirely unrelated, seeing as I cannot resolve the issue, because I need to remove packages first to make room.
[15:00] <minimec> abiQuinn: Can you unplug/plug the device and run the two commands in one line, the way I paste it here?
[15:01] <minimec> abiQuinn: xboxinput=$(ls -l /dev/input/by-id/usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick | awk '{print $NF}' FS=/) && xboxdrv --evdev /dev/input/$xboxinput --evdev-absmap ABS_X=x1,ABS_Y=y1,ABS_RX=x2,ABS_RY=y2,ABS_Z=lt,ABS_RZ=rt,ABS_HAT0X=dpad_x,ABS_HAT0Y=dpad_y --axismap -Y1=Y1,-Y2=Y2 --evdev-keymap
[15:01] <aleksa> "јул" corresponds to "july"
[15:01] <minimec> BTN_SOUTH=a,BTN_EAST=b,BTN_WEST=x,BTN_NORTH=y,BTN_TL=lb,BTN_TR=rb,BTN_START=start,BTN_SELECT=back,BTN_THUMBL=tl,BTN_THUMBR=tr --mimic-xpad --silent &
[15:01] <fiter> ioria: here it is https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/QG5xlAPl2hgBbWmUEFfauA
[15:01] <minimec> abiQuinn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25032593/
[15:01] <Halleluia> sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade
[15:02] <abiQuinn> minimec, I can't sudo that and the xboxdrv doesn't work without sudo
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Halleluia, did that do anything?
[15:02] <sipior> aleksa: Да :-) can you reach 8.8.8.8? also, did you restart your browser before the attempt?
[15:03] <ioria> fiter,  are you using wily ? cat /etc/issue
[15:03] <abiQuinn> minimec: can I sudo part way through it?
[15:03] <fiter> ioria: once I tried to install wily but left it there as it was but never used it
[15:04] <ioria> fiter,   cat /etc/issue
[15:04] <Halleluia> Nope
[15:04] <abiQuinn> oh ok minimec I put the sudo in the middle of it and it worked on one line fine
[15:04] <minimec> abiQuinn: Do 'sudo -i' first to get a root console
[15:04] <aleksa> sipior, I can reach 8.8.8.8, I ping it, no error. I've restarted both browsers after the attempt.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Halleluia, try nmap, but remove zenmap first
[15:05] <aleksa> sipior, and also before the attempt, right now
[15:05] <sipior> aleksa: all right. let's go back to setting the dns entry manually for your connection.
[15:05] <fiter> ioria: Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[15:05] <aleksa> sipior, should I google it?
[15:05] <ioria> fiter,   you're using wily, not supported anymore btw
[15:06] <abiQuinn> minimec: from root console the paste you gave me works fine!
[15:06] <sipior> aleksa: should be able to do that directly from the network manager widget
[15:07] <fiter> ioria:  you mean to say that I am using 15.10 and thats not supported any more ??
[15:07] <aleksa> sipior, Settings, Network, Wired, Options,
[15:07] <minimec> abiQuinn: So... We know that the command works, but we don't know if it gets executed with our udev rule... What does "echo -ne '\007'" in the terminal give you?
[15:07] <aleksa> IPv4 Settings tab
[15:08] <sipior> aleksa: yep
[15:08] <aleksa> Should I write it in Addtional DNS servers?
[15:08] <aleksa> ok
[15:08] <aleksa> Method: Automatic (DHCP)
[15:08] <aleksa> ?
[15:08] <fiter> ioria:  my previous reply was according to wily tool for programming
[15:08] <minimec> abiQuinn: Do you hear some 'bing'?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> sipior, or in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[15:09] <aleksa> I've set it to 8.8.8.8, restarted Firefox, nothing :(
[15:09] <aleksa> ping: https://www.myteamspeak.com/login: Name or service not known
[15:09] <sipior> BluesKaj: at the moment, taking systemd out of the equation seems best
[15:10] <ksbalaji> Running 16.04, my system folder partition has less space. How to move the big folder /usr safely to other drive or partition?
[15:10] <abiQuinn> sorry minimec i was afk for a second, will try that echo now
[15:11] <abiQuinn> minimec: I don't get anything from that echo, could that be beacause im in root?
[15:11] <sipior> aleksa: can you confirm that you actually get a dns response back? "dig @8.8.8.8 www.myteamspeak.com", or the like?
[15:12] <minimec> abiQuinn: You should get a sound.
[15:12] <oerheks_> ksbalaji, 'safely' is when you backup your data first, https://askubuntu.com/questions/656/how-to-move-usr-to-a-new-partition / https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116816/how-to-move-usr-from-one-partition-to-another-partition-safely
[15:12] <aleksa> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032633/
[15:12] <sipior> aleksa: okay, good news
[15:12] <abiQuinn> minimec: I don't get a sound as far as im aware
[15:12] <ksbalaji> oerheks_, thanks !
[15:13] <BluesKaj> sipior, then the dns servers should be plasces in /etc/network/interfaces...NM won't overwrite them there
[15:13] <abiQuinn> minimec: Im not sure I have my system sounds setup properly
[15:15] <sipior> BluesKaj: i want to change them temporarily; i'm not interested in modifying the base config yet. besides, i suspect the dns entries are being received via dhcp, so they won't live there.
[15:15] <minimec> abiQuinn: ok. So replace our Run+ line with 'RUN+="echo 'Hello world!' > /udev.log' ; reload the rule ; unplug/plug the device and check if you have a udev.log file in '/' ( <-- root directory of the file system)
[15:16] <sipior> aleksa: could you try "sudo systemctl stop systemd-resolved"? and then confirm that the only dns entry for your network connection is set to 8.8.8.8?
[15:16] <aleksa> Ok, I'm still waiting :D Should I remove "8.8.8.8" from the GUI settings I've made? Since that doesn't work out...
[15:16] <ioria> fiter,   yes
[15:18] <aleksa> sipior, your post has appeared after I already sent mine. Sorry, I do not know how to confirm that the only dns entry is set to 8.8.8.8. How to do that?
[15:19] <sipior> aleksa: it should be the only entry listed under the "DNS" section of the network manager entry for your network connection
[15:19] <abiQuinn> minimec: how do  check for the log file?
[15:20] <aleksa> sipior, "Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1"
[15:20] <sipior> aleksa: yeah, get rid of that entry
[15:20] <minimec> abiQuinn: ls / | grep udev
[15:21] <aleksa> I can't, It's just info page
[15:21] <aleksa> from widget
[15:21] <abiQuinn> minimec: no output
[15:21] <aleksa> plus, the only thing that works now is IRC, I can't load any other site on browsers
[15:21] <aleksa> since I've run sudo systemctl stop systemd-resolved
[15:21] <abiQuinn> minimec: so that means the udev rule isn't running
[15:21] <minimec> abiQuinn: cat /udev.log
[15:22] <abiQuinn> minimec: output: no such file or directory
[15:22] <sipior> aleksa: you can start it back up again in a minute. edit out the 192.168.0.1 entry the same way you added 8.8.8.8 a minute ago.
[15:24] <aleksa> sipior, I've right clicked on widget, connection information and tab Wired connection 1. That's where I've found Primary DNS. When I go to Settings, Network, IPv4, there is no "192.168.9.1" entry.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> well, good luck, stuff to do for a while...BBL
[15:25] <sipior> aleksa: what *is* listed under dns?
[15:25] <aleksa> I'd give you a screenshot, but I can't upload it since I can't load anything else except for IRC
[15:25] <aleksa> 192.168.0.1 192.168.1.1
[15:26] <aleksa> It's listed in Netowrk, Wired
[15:26] <aleksa> But I can't change it
[15:26] <aleksa> When I click "Options", I get many tabs
[15:26] <sipior> aleksa: under IPv4?
[15:26] <aleksa> Tabs are General, Ethernet, 802.1x Security, DCB, IPv4 SEttings and IPv6
[15:27] <aleksa> under IPv4 there are:
[15:27] <aleksa> method: Automatic (DHCP)
[15:27] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. revert the rule to this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032497/, reload the rules, open a 2nd terminal and use the following command "sudo udevadm monitor --udev" and unplug/plug the device
[15:27] <aleksa> Adresses are grayed (disabled)
[15:27] <aleksa> additional DNS servers: 8.8.8.8
[15:27] <aleksa> additional search domains : blank
[15:28] <sipior> aleksa: is there an "automatic" switch next to the dns entry?
[15:28] <aleksa> DHCP client ID: blank
[15:28] <aleksa> sipior, no
[15:29] <aleksa> And the last option (with checkbox) is "Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete" and it's unchecked
[15:30] <sipior> aleksa: easiest thing to do is to change from dhcp to manual. make sure that the entry for address, netmask and gateway are exactly what they are right now before hitting apply.
[15:30] <abiQuinn> minimec: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25032707/
[15:30] <Halleluia> thanks guys did it...
[15:30] <Halleluia> OMG! abiQuinn and minimec still on it?
[15:31] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: please don't remind me how long this has been going :L
[15:31] <aleksa> sipior, when I switch to manual, I cannot Save (Apply) without adding address.
[15:31] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: I'm learning things though even if we aren't getting the desired outcome
[15:32] <Halleluia> but I'm happy I'm here.... Gotta learn
[15:32] <aleksa> sipior, what should I add as Address, Netmask and Gateway?
[15:32] <sipior> aleksa: right, that's why you want to make sure the address you supply is exactly what it is was before.
[15:32] <aleksa> sipior, I cannot save the change
[15:32] <aleksa> If I don't enter something
[15:32] <aleksa> So It cannot be MANUAL
[15:33] <sipior> aleksa: one more time: enter exactly the numbers that were there before.
[15:33] <aleksa> Either I switch it to MANUAL and add some address (there is no address currently), or I leave it as it was (Automatic (DHCP)).
[15:33] <aleksa> sipior, there were and there are no numbers
[15:33] <aleksa> nothing listed here
[15:33] <aleksa> empty
[15:34] <aleksa> Can I give you somehow screenshot?
[15:34] <Halleluia> One quick question.....[15:34] <sipior> aleksa: when it was listed as dhcp, it should've shown the current ip address, netmask and gateway.
[15:34] <aleksa> sipior, none, believe me, nothing listed
[15:35] <badsektor> Halleluia: yes
[15:35] <sipior> aleksa: all right, just get it from the output of "ip addr".
[15:35] <Halleluia> minimec: I need you answer seriously.... abiQuinn you too
[15:36] <Halleluia> badsektor: looking at your name bad.... Hmmmm I doubt you want me to follow your advice
[15:37] <aleksa> sipior, there are too many things, I can't find what I need
[15:37] <aleksa> the output is too massy
[15:37] <badsektor> Halleluia: did you just install ubuntu? i suggest you mess it up and reinstall it, like once a week, over again
[15:37] <badsektor> Halleluia: that way you can learn it much quicker
[15:37] <sipior> aleksa: okay. restart systemd-resolved. i've got to be on my way anyhow. best of luck sorting out this problem.
[15:37] <Halleluia> badsektor I have already.... I'm I've come to learn the hard way
[15:37] <abiQuinn> Halleluia: im busy man... and I don't know anythind to give you an answer
[15:38] <nacc> Halleluia: what is your question?
[15:38] <badsektor> Halleluia: can i pm you?
[15:38] <aleksa> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032748/
[15:38] <aleksa> this is ip addr output
[15:38] <Halleluia> abiQuinn relax... weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning.... Relax! You'll get it done for sure but just easy
[15:39] <Halleluia> yes badsektor
[15:39] <aleksa> can you tell me what should I take as address, netmask and gateway?
[15:40] <abiQuinn> im hopping around doing this looking for the highlighted messages incase minimec responds and I keep getting caught out by your mentions so it's just a little annoying
[15:42] <aleksa> Guys, please don't leave me on half the way.
[15:43] <aleksa> Finally has sipior found what is problem with my system, but now I need to configure it properly.
[15:43] <abiQuinn> aleksa: im sure sipior is probably just looking into it before responding
[15:43] <aleksa> ok :)
[15:44] <Metichi> Hello!
[15:44] <Metichi> Anyone here?
[15:44] <abiQuinn> nope
[15:44] <Metichi> Shame. I needed to ask something
[15:44] <aleksa> abiQuinn, but I thought that by wishing me good luck, Sipior wanted to tell me that he no longer wants to assist.
[15:45] <aleksa> Did I got it wrong?
[15:45] <abiQuinn> aleksa: oh maybe he has fucked off then, I don't know xD
[15:45] <aleksa> :(
[15:46] <abiQuinn> oh yeh aleksa he did say he had to go, rip
[15:46] <Halleluia> nacc: can I enable root?
[15:46] <abiQuinn> just try and find someone else theres loads of helpful people here from my experience
[15:46] <minimec> abiQuinn: Did you try to monitor the udev rule as I suggested?
[15:46] <nacc> Halleluia: can you? of course you can.
[15:46] <abiQuinn> minimec: yeh I sent you the output
[15:46] <Metichi> I have a hard drive that I used to store data on windows, until one day stopped showing up. I have been trying to mount it on ubuntu to recover some files but I cant manage.
[15:46] <minimec> oups...
[15:47] <abiQuinn> minimec: want it again?
[15:47] <Halleluia> is it advicable... Don't want to mess things up
[15:47] <nacc> Halleluia: I don't have any context, but I'm not sure why that's a question?
[15:47] <aleksa> Ok. Now I'm left and stuck here. Anyone else interested in helping me solve the problem? Sipior has found the problem, and it's regarding my DNS...
[15:47] <minimec> abiQuinn: yep
[15:47] <nacc> Halleluia: you don't nee dto enable the root account on ubuntu, just use sudo as appropriate
[15:47] <abiQuinn> minimec: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25032707/
[15:47] <Halleluia> nacc: Good and thanks for the advice... I knew is not good to enabe root
[15:47] <nacc> Halleluia: it's not about 'good' or not (imo), it's about necessary or not
[15:48] <nacc> Halleluia: and it's not necessary on ubuntu
[15:48] <nacc> Halleluia: or did you mean ssh in as root? that's a different thing altogether
[15:48] <minimec> abiQuinn: Did not see your post. Unfortunatelly we do not se whether the rule gets executed... Hmm.. starting to 'hate' that udev thing... ;)
[15:49] <abiQuinn> minimec: same bro same xD
[15:50] <Halleluia> I mean in terms of basic knowledge base
[15:51] <abiQuinn> minimec: getting the thing to run is like 99% of the problem though sooo once thats done there's not much else
[15:51] <nacc> Halleluia: i'm not sure i follow -- what does allowing the root user have to do with 'knowledge base'? I'm not sure I know what you mean
[15:51] <minimec> abiQuinn: We are pretty close I guess, but missing 1% ... ;)
[15:53] <aleksa> abiQuinn, what is the best thing that I can do now (since I'm on half way solving the problem)? Should I save the transcript of channel and reproduce it later on when I come here again, or just to come here again in a day asking for help with fresh start?
[15:53] <abiQuinn> minimec: the number of times I've been stuck at my desk because of a missed ; or I spelt color the British way colour, same with center/centre
[15:53] <abiQuinn> aleksa: I would just keep asking here every now and then
[15:54] <abiQuinn> aleksa: took me a few tries before someone picked up my issue... and poor minimec has been going at it for ages now :L
[15:57] <Halleluia> nacc: I mean as a newbie
[15:57] <Batholith> Hey, how can I flush the DNS? I'm on 16.04 and Chrome gives me DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_BAD_CONFIG error.
[15:57] <Halleluia> abiQuinn: Funny you
[15:58] <abiQuinn> what Halleluia ?
[15:58] <nacc> Halleluia: right, but I still don't understand what being new has to do with enabling the root user? Don't do it, there's no reason to. If you have a reason to do it, then discuss that reason.
[16:00] <Batholith> Or could someone possible be kind enough to give me Google's IP? :)
[16:00] <Batholith> google.com's, I mean.
[16:00] <strive> dig google.com
[16:01] <Batholith> DNS is broken, unfortunately.
[16:02] <Batholith> strive: If it helps, I did that and it gave me ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[16:03] <abiQuinn> Batholith: I don't know anything about anything but google says google's DNS is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 if that helps... which it probably doesnt
[16:04] <Batholith> Oh it's 8.8.8.4, not 8.8.4.4?
[16:04] <abiQuinn> no my bad
[16:04] <abiQuinn> 8.8.4.4*
[16:04] <Batholith> Ah yeah, I have those in my connection settings, thanks. :p
[16:06] <abiQuinn> minimec: are we still trying by the way?
[16:07] <strive> Batholith: Maybe it's your /etc/resolv.conf file?
[16:08] <strive> <---noob.
[16:08] <minimec> abiQuinn: We are. Just had to look for my laundry.
[16:09] <abiQuinn> minimec: no worries :D
[16:14] <aruns> Hi, I am not home at the moment so cannot provide specifics, but I have a laptop running Ubuntu 16.04, for which I am using the Cinnamon desktop for my user. I am currently not able to load Cinnamon and was hoping if anyone knew how I can change the default DE system wide from the command line.
[16:15] <aruns> I have looked up a few articles but so far, nothing that pertains to me.
[16:15] <oerheks> aruns, you change that on the login
[16:15] <aruns> oerheks: I am not able to for my user
[16:15] <aruns> You're talking about the white circle on the login screen.
[16:16] <aruns> That is why I need to change from the terminal.
[16:17] <Batholith> Welp, restarting Ubuntu was the only thing that fixed that issue. And they say you never need to restart Linux! Hehe.
[16:17] <oerheks> or from recovery mode, make it RW, and run sudo update-alternatives --set x-session-manager # this gives a choise AFAIK
[16:18] <oerheks> strange you cannot go to loginscreen
[16:18] <aruns> No, I can go to login screen
[16:18] <oerheks> oke, there you can change DE
[16:18] <aruns> Just clicking the circle didn't let me switch to another DE.
[16:18] <aruns> So yeah I will have to boot into recovery mode
[16:18] <oerheks> maybe the icons on the top panel...
[16:18] <aruns> Thanks.
[16:18] <aruns> Well laptop's at home so I can't verify.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> heh, I don't even bother with NM , static IP is the way to go on local networks IMO
[16:20] <BluesKaj> oops ...din't scroll down afte being away :-)
[16:20] <minimec> abiQuinn: Can you once 'sudo touch /usr/local/bin/dualshock-init.sh' then 'sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/dualshock-init.sh', then 'sudo nano /usr/local/bin/dualshock-init.sh' and paste the content of the following paste... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25033134/
[16:21] <abiQuinn> will do minimec
[16:21] <minimec> abiQuinn: Then change the udev rule we created and replace RUN+ with RUN+"/usr/local/bin/dualshock-init.sh". REload the rules... ;)
[16:22] <toto20>  /msg NickServ VERIFY EMAILCHG toto20 1048644852
[16:23] <abiQuinn> minimec: should it be RUN+="" or RUN+"" like you've put
[16:24] <minimec> abiQuinn: RUN+=""
[16:24] <abiQuinn> minimec: okedoke
[16:25] <abiQuinn> minimec: and reload rules then unplug-plug?
[16:26] <minimec> abiQuinn: So we create a script that you can lauch in the terminal with 'sudo dualshock-init.sh', but should also be executed with the udev rule.
[16:26] <minimec> abiQuinn: yes
[16:27] <minimec> abiQuinn: Does 'sudo dualshock-init.sh' initialize the device after plug/unplug?
[16:27] <abiQuinn> minimec: I have no /js0 now... I may have gained a /js4 but I don't know... I don't think that was created just now
[16:28] <minimec> abiQuinn: Does 'sudo dualshock-init.sh' initialize the device after plug/unplug?
[16:28] <abiQuinn> should I check with the other konsole that was doing the monitoring?
[16:29] <minimec> abiQuinn: You should have a file called udev-check.log in '/'
[16:29] <abiQuinn> okay
[16:29] <minimec> abiQuinn: cat /udev-check.log
[16:30] <abiQuinn> minimec: no such file
[16:30] <abiQuinn> also ls / | grep udev gave no output
[16:33] <minimec> abiQuinn: di you try 'sudo dualshock-init.sh'
[16:33] <minimec> abiQuinn: ... in the terminal?
[16:34] <abiQuinn> minimec: ls: cannot access '/dev/input/by-id/usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick': No such file or directory
[16:34] <abiQuinn> /usr/local/bin/dualshock-init.sh: line 21: initilaize: command not foundy
[16:34] <abiQuinn> i think thats because the device isn't connected
[16:34] <minimec> is the device plugged?
[16:35] <abiQuinn> when I unplug/plug the device it auto disconnects itself
[16:36] <abiQuinn> minimec: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25033198/
[16:36] <minimec> abiQuinn: What? I am sorry... I have to leave for 2 hours. I have a 'rendez-vous'. Will be back ...
[16:37] <abiQuinn> minimec: no worries, catch ya later
[16:37] <minimec> abiQuinn: MAybe give the comoputer a reboot ;) Cu...
[16:39] <AbiQuinn> anyone wanna pick up with me where minimec left off... we're trying to get a udev rule working, if you manage it you'll get bragging rights over minimec xD
[16:42] <oerheks> AbiQuinn, i tried to read back.. you are in a VM ??
[16:42] <Bombo> hi
[16:43] <AbiQuinn> im not, im running Kubuntu 17.04
[16:43] <AbiQuinn> trying to get a ds4 controller to initialise with xboxdrv via udev rule oerheks
[16:44] <AbiQuinn> oerheks: we are 90% there we just can't seem to get the udev rule to actually run
[16:44] <Bombo> in dmesg i see 'The NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro GPU installed in this system is supported through the NVIDIA 71.86.xx Legacy drivers. The 304.135 NVIDIA driver will ignore this GPU.' what package are the 71.86.xx drivers in?
[16:45] <oerheks> err, why xboxdrv ? there is a ds4drv in python
[16:46] <thewillo> Bombo have you tried ubuntu's graphical proprietary driver installer?
[16:46] <oerheks> Bombo, none, for current xorg, use the open driver
[16:46] <AbiQuinn> oerheks: I just used what people told me to, it works though through console... it's only the udev rule part that I need now
[16:50] <oerheks> AbiQuinn, dunno about that, is it a clone ds4 ?
[16:51] <AbiQuinn> oerheks its legit ds4, the issue isn't the controller as far as I can tell
[16:52] <oerheks> All info i trust now is from our french friends https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/dualshock#dualshock_4
[16:52] <AbiQuinn> kubuntu picks it up fine, its getting it working with steam, I need to use it to emulate an xbox controller
[16:52] <oerheks> oh, totally different than installation..
[16:52] <Bombo> thewillo oerheks no, i'm currently using nouveau, but firefox crashes when there is flash installed (flashplugin-installer)
[16:53] <oerheks> Bombo, don't  expect to have youtube support on that old card :-(
[16:53] <AbiQuinn> this looks useful oerheks thanks
[16:53] <oerheks> ds4drv --hidraw --emulate-xboxdrv ??
[16:54] <AbiQuinn> I wish I could read french
[16:55] <Bombo> oerheks: yt works with html5, but there are some sites that only work with flash ;(
[16:56] <Bombo> gnash crashes too btw
[16:56] <Guest79810>  Please tell me under any conditions Kdump cannot create vmcore automatically ? I have spontaneous reboots with no vmcore...
[16:58] <AbiQuinn> there is something wrong with my udev rule and it's not running thats the issue
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Bombo, which browser?
[17:00] <Bombo> BluesKaj: firefox
[17:01] <Bombo> BluesKaj: hmm i can try chrome, good point ;)
[17:01] <oerheks> NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro GPU.. you can try chrome if you run 64 bit. but i doubt it will make a difference
[17:01] <BluesKaj> Bombo, chrome should work
[17:02] <Bombo> no it's 32bit of course ;)
[17:02] <BluesKaj> that shouldn't matter, Bombo
[17:02] <Halleluia> can I add a user to the root group? Is it adviceable
[17:02] <Bombo> chrome still supports 32bit?
[17:02] <oerheks> no
[17:02] <Halleluia> no chrome doesn't
[17:03] <Bombo> cool.
[17:03] <BluesKaj> really , oerheks ?
[17:03] <Bombo> hmmm
[17:03] <BluesKaj> still does on windows 7 .
[17:04] <oerheks> "March 2016, Google will stop releasing Chrome for 32-bit Linux distributions."
[17:06] <oerheks> "Dec 3, 2016 - Chrome 55, released earlier this week, now blocks all Adobe Flash"
[17:06] <oerheks> \0/
[17:06] <Zevv> Hi, my 14.04 LTS hangs at boot time in upstart, last message 'starting configure network device'
[17:06] <Zevv> how do I debug this?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Bombo, you cam get a legacy chrome (2016) here https://archive.org/download/google-chrome-stable_48.0.2564.116-1_i386
[17:08] <BluesKaj> if it's anewer version than yours
[17:08] <Bombo> BluesKaj: ok thx
[17:15] <Zevv> I now see last message is sometimes "Stopping Mount network filesystems"
[17:16] <Zevv> but no NFS mounts in /etc/fstab
[17:20] <Bombo> BluesKaj: not old enough: 'This computer can no longer run Google Chrome because its hardware is no longer supported.'
[17:20] <Zevv> and I get 'Starting configure network device', but never 'Stopping configure network device"
[17:22] <BluesKaj> Bombo, bummer :/  perhaps a few HW upgrades are in order
[17:22] <Bombo> model name      : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+ cpu MHz         : 1261.204 MemTotal:         505248 kB
[17:22] <Halleluia> good bye
[17:24] <compdoc> Bombo, pretty old/slow
[17:25] <Bombo> BluesKaj: too bad... it's just flash that doesn't work, it's a bit slow, but other thing work ;)
[17:25] <Bombo> compdoc: but works (except flash) ;)
[17:27] <BluesKaj> well Bombo a lot of websites are using HTML5 now, so looks like you're in the exclusive club of users who don't use or really need flash  :-)
[17:28] <BluesKaj> Bombo, pretty cool that you have a 15yr old pc that still runs
[17:36] <Bombo> BluesKaj: i got e.g.  486 66mhz it's even older ;) (but i don't know if it's still working)
[17:37] <UNIcodeX_> is it possible to use the ubuntu installer to install to an encrypted btrfs mirror?
[17:40] <karoshi> Where am I going wrong here? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25033494/
[17:42] <wedgie> karoshi: what are you trying to accomplish... i can't even tell
[17:42] <karoshi> wedgie: switch to the znc user
[17:42] <wedgie> karoshi: sudo -u znc command
[17:43] <eelstrebor> must be a buggy video driver for my new hp pavilion lappy - ubuntu says it supports the video card though - 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Carrizo (rev c5) -sometimes the display comes, sometimes it doesn't - and sometimes the display goes blank and requires a reboot
[17:43] <karoshi> wedgie: thanks :)
[17:44]  * eelstrebor hasn't found a solution yet
[17:53] <compdoc> eelstrebor, how much ram do you give the card
[18:01] <ash_workz> I know this isn't really an ubuntu question... not sure where to ask it but
[18:01] <Halleluia> abiQuinn
[18:01] <ash_workz> when I do `tree -dif --filelimit 200` it zips through a ton of directories really quickly and then stalls on a few
[18:01] <Halleluia> minimec
[18:01] <ash_workz> I am wondering why that is
[18:01] <Halleluia> we done?
[18:02] <workisfun> anyone know why calling `chromium-browser` throws this memory issue? https://pastebin.com/puDXXyUZ
[18:03] <ash_workz> like, it shouldn't take longer than the time it takes to stream 200 directories to a subcommand and exit when the count > 200, right?
[18:04] <ash_workz> like doing `find | grep -m200 ^`
[18:05] <ash_workz> stop me if I'm making a fool out of myself :P
[18:14] <Arunangshu> how to disable bluetooth service on startup without removing its icon from the panel
[18:18] <CoderEurope> Arunangshu, usually through bios menu on laptops.
[18:20] <Arunangshu> i mean to say when i first login to ubuntu i find bluetooth in on i want to switch off
[18:22] <eelstrebor> compdoc, whatever the default is - not sure how to find that info - anyway, it is a bug since a lot of other people have the same problem. hopefully, they'll have a fix out soon but the bug reports date back a year.
[18:22] <oerheks> If you don't want bluetooth to start at all on boot use the following command: sudo systemctl disable bluetooth.service
[18:22] <oerheks> for 16.04, that is
[18:23] <oerheks> the icon still works to enable it
[18:23] <oerheks> but the 1st time it can take up to a minute...
[18:25] <__Yiota> can someone explain systemd timeout to me>
[18:26] <__Yiota> does it just block a specific service from being used?
[18:26] <oerheks> timeout says the service is not ready
[18:27] <oerheks> so it is not blocked, just not available.
[18:29]  * eelstrebor wishes he could find a current pc model - one that he wants - that is on the hcl
[18:34]  * eelstrebor wonders why kernels from kernel.org won't boot on ubuntu
[18:39] <hoxolotl> hello, I did a partial upgrade and now keyboards aren't detected on the login screen.
[18:40] <hoxolotl> I I tried all the options in the recovery menu, but alas, no effect.
[18:40] <chaosfisch> hello, after installing ubuntu, I'm now stuck without working efi bootloader. I tried boot-repair, but it fails with "locked ESP", what else can I try?
[18:40] <nacc> eelstrebor: kernels from kernel.org are source tarballs. So it usually depends on patches. Also, there are some things you might need from the ubuntu patchset. It's better to use the mainline PPA if you need an upstream kernel (but you don't, in most cases)
[18:40] <Halleluia> sup nacc
[18:41] <nacc> Halleluia: while I appreciate the friendliness, chitchat is offtopic for this channel, please stick to support topics
[18:41] <Halleluia> lol nacc
[18:48] <hoxolotl> answer found, trying : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1630245
[18:59] <melodie> hello, I am seeking for feedback about this printer : Epson EcoTank 4550. Does someone have it? If so, how is the use on the printer side and on the scanner side under Ubuntu?
[19:00] <melodie> thanks for your insights!
[19:03] <hoxolotl> ....WTF, halfway typing a command in grub and it goes back to the safestart windows...
[19:04] <ioria> melodie, have you tried this ? http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
[19:04] <melodie> ioria, irrelevant, the existence of drivers do not imply the use is smooth and fine
[19:04] <melodie> but thanks
[19:04] <melodie> hoxolotl, what brand and model computer?
[19:05] <ioria> melodie, so, answer is no
[19:06] <melodie> ioria, I have not bought the printer yet
[19:06] <melodie> just I'd like to get some feedback
[19:06] <melodie> eventually
[19:07] <minimec> AbiQuinn: Ping... Oh boy... I may have found something... Can you replace the content of "/usr/local/bin/dualshock-init.sh" with this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25033931/
[19:07] <AbiQuinn> minimec: I was literally about to go sleep you just caught me boy
[19:08] <oerheks> melodie, better chance on the forum, this post says it just works, maybe add your comment on that https://askubuntu.com/questions/923168/epson-ecotank-printer-on-ubuntu
[19:08] <wyth> Aloha folks
[19:09] <wyth> I was in here about a week ago looking for help with an LVM issue I was/am having. Still haven't really gotten anywhere. Would anyone mind taking a look and seeing if anything sticks out to them, or have an avenue I should try looking into? https://askubuntu.com/questions/932295/new-disk-in-lvm-cpu-locks-up-with-kernel-errors
[19:09] <melodie> oerheks, thanks!
[19:10] <AbiQuinn> ok done minimec
[19:10] <hoxolotl> melodie, laptop HP elitebook 8570w... nvidia quadro 2000m and intel i7 3xxx something.
[19:11] <minimec> AbiQuinn: reload the rules... unplug/plug...
[19:11] <melodie> hoxolotl, with which kernel?
[19:12] <hoxolotl> it's on a merry go round, apt-get install -f doesn't work, because apt-get update can't find the /I think its called/  ppa's
[19:12] <hoxolotl> 4.10.xx
[19:12] <melodie> and why do you need to type something in the grub command line?
[19:12] <hoxolotl> 4.10.0-27
[19:12] <AbiQuinn> minimec: when I plug the controller back in it gets removed again shortly after
[19:13] <hoxolotl> keyboard won't work in login screen
[19:13] <minimec> AbiQuinn: cat /udev-check.log
[19:13] <ioria> hoxolotl, and where did you get that kernel ?
[19:13] <melodie> hoxolotl, that's very annoying. Is it Ubuntu latest?
[19:13] <hoxolotl> so I'm trying to drop to root ( which it quits after a while for some reason),
[19:14] <AbiQuinn> eyyy good news that has an output now... Thu Jul  6 20:12:06 BST 2017
[19:14] <melodie> do you have nouveau or nvidia as driver?
[19:14] <ioria> hoxolotl, latest for zesty is .26
[19:14] <hoxolotl> nvidia drivers.
[19:14] <AbiQuinn> minimec: ^^
[19:16] <hoxolotl> *ubuntu, with Linux 4.10.0-27-generic <- so says my screen) and I go in (recovery mode) to (boor as root)
[19:16] <minimec> AbiQuinn: So the problem with udev is, that it needs an 'absolute path'. Doing 'xboxdrv --evdev...' something is not enough, you need to do '/usr/bin/xboxdrv --evdev' and so on. That's why our rule was never executed... Same with 'ls' and 'date' and 'awk'
[19:16] <hoxolotl> then mount -o rw,remount /
[19:17] <hoxolotl> and then trying to fix xserver, but I can't cause apt-get update fails
[19:17] <AbiQuinn> minimec: ok... but now there's the issue of the controller is being removed after I plug it back in :L
[19:17] <minimec> AbiQuinn: Now... I don't have a clue why the device is automatically removed once it is plugged.
[19:17] <AbiQuinn> minimec: xD fuck my life
[19:18] <hoxolotl> it fails to fetch all ppas
[19:18] <AbiQuinn> minimec: I could try rebooting maybe it's something trivial?
[19:18] <minimec> AbiQuinn: Try that... please...
[19:18] <melodie> hoxolotl, having many ppas is not exactly a good thing in your case
[19:18] <hoxolotl> -durp- enables networking....
[19:19] <melodie> oerheks, the ask ubuntu page says the same as ioria suggested, it's not a feedback from a user
[19:20] <oerheks> maybe openprinting has a review ..
[19:20] <abiQuinn> minimec: and I'm back
[19:20] <ioria> melodie, there are gazillions of printers ....  feedback from a specific user it unlikely ...
[19:20] <ioria> 's
[19:21] <oerheks> chance 1:1158 users now online
[19:22] <hoxolotl> Tenporary failure resolving nl.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:22] <abiQuinn> minimec: ok the controller doesn't get disconnected anymore but a js1 from xboxdrv is still not being created :L
[19:22] <hoxolotl> apt-get -f install .... whelp...
[19:23] <abiQuinn> minimec: the udev-check.log is updated every time I unplug/plug too
[19:23] <minimec> abiQuinn: Can you run "/usr/local/bin/dualshock-init.sh" once in a terminal?
[19:24] <workisfun> anyone know why calling `chromium-browser` throws this memory issue? https://pastebin.com/puDXXyUZ
[19:24] <hoxolotl> xorg is not installed... whaaaaaa?
[19:25] <abiQuinn> xD minimec typo in the .sh I'll fix it and report back
[19:25] <ioria> workisfun, try chromium-browser --disable-extensions
[19:25] <hoxolotl> and it won't install because of unmet dependencies...
[19:26] <hoxolotl> is there a command to install xorg and dependencies?
[19:28] <abiQuinn> minimec: okay typo was initilaize, change to correct spelling initialize still getting an error line 20: initialize: command not found
[19:28] <workisfun> ioria:that worked, I haven't added any extensions recently though hmm
[19:29] <ioria> workisfun, weird
[19:29] <abiQuinn> minimec: noworries you typo'd the original too will fix
[19:29] <ioria> workisfun, oh, yeah it disables also hw accel
[19:30] <workisfun> ioria:yeah and closing the window and running with extensions again works as well, everything's back to normal :/, thank you though :)
[19:30] <ioria> workisfun, ok
[19:30]  * hoxolotl notes its not the first time apt-get update fails on a dutch server, but succeeds on the US one...
[19:31] <abiQuinn> minimec: okay all typos cleared... script runs fine in konsole
[19:31] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. So I see the problem. So the the function should be 'initialize()' and should be called in line 20 as 'initialize'.
[19:31] <minimec> abiQuinn: Good!
[19:31] <minimec> abiQuinn: I wrote that script in 5 min. before my rendez-vous... ;)
[19:31] <abiQuinn> minimec: you managed to spell it right in the comment then misspell it in the function name and the called later in different ways xD
[19:32] <minimec> abiQuinn: Yeah. I was in a hurry... ;)
[19:32] <abiQuinn> minimec: haha no worries was a little funny
[19:33] <abiQuinn> minimec: just for reference I think steam might be causing the controller to disconnect
[19:34] <minimec> abiQuinn: So you cannot plug the device if steam is already running?
[19:35] <abiQuinn> minimec: yes and when I run steam it shows in udev monitor as removing the controller
[19:35] <Younder> Steam is just a process.
[19:36] <Younder> You can ping and run other process whetevwer with steam running
[19:36] <abiQuinn> Younder: all I can do is say what I see here and when I open steam Udev monitor shows my controller being removed with repeatable success
[19:39] <Younder> I don't know what kina install you have, But I run steam in a separate window (I have 9). And I can switch betwen them. Are you running steam in full screen mode?
[19:40] <abiQuinn> minimec:  steam issue to one side... the xboxdrv part of our script still doesn't seem to be working
[19:40] <abiQuinn> minimec:  actually it works in konsole just not through udev :L
[19:40] <abiQuinn> Younder: not running steam in big picture if thats what you are asking
[19:41] <oerheks> steam should be run fullscreen
[19:41] <howardwlo> is there any alternative to libphash0-dev package?
[19:42] <abiQuinn> oerheks: you mean big picture mode?
[19:42] <howardwlo> when i `apt-get install libphash0-dev` it tells me unable to locate pcakage :/
[19:43] <nemo> heh. my poor coworker - ubuntu locks up his laptop and corrupts the HD if he activates suspend or switches users.  He's reinstalled Ubuntu "30 times now" according to him.  I admire his dedication
[19:43] <nacc> howardwlo: no such package exists in ubuntu in precise or later
[19:43] <nacc> howardwlo: where are you finding such a reference?
[19:43] <nemo> Most recent one was trying to remove the Suspend option from the unity dash - right clicking on the damn thing triggered it - he was trying to get a context menu to remove it
[19:43] <howardwlo> nacc: https://www.npmjs.com/package/phash
[19:43] <oerheks> abiQuinn, big picture mode, fullscreen, whatever, as long as you don't have a border
[19:44] <nacc> howardwlo: oh sorry, i typo'd locally. it only exists on 12.04 and 14.04
[19:44] <howardwlo> nacc: oh. balls
[19:44] <nacc> howardwlo: given that particular binding is 4 years old, you would need to build it on trusty.
[19:44] <abiQuinn> oerheks: running it big picture still causes my controller to be removed
[19:44] <nacc> howardwlo: also might want to find something more maintained?
[19:44] <nemo> so... for his thirty-first install.  what would be the best way to remove all traces of suspend?
[19:44] <nemo> ideally as low-level as possible
[19:45] <howardwlo> nacc: is it a pain to build it on trusty? i’ve never done such a thing or understand what that means
[19:45] <ioria> !info libphash0-dev trusty
[19:46] <minimec> abiQuinn: So my guess is that the $variable does not work. Try to add 'export' in line 5 before 'xboxinput'. So 'export xboxinput...'
[19:47] <abiQuinn> minimec: done
[19:49] <abiQuinn> minimec: still no device created by xboxdrv
[19:50] <minimec> abiQuinn: Ok. Last try...!
[19:51] <kristian_on_linu> hi all ... my DCPJ4110DW printer/scanner was working fine, now I can get it to print but not scan.
[19:52] <minimec> abiQuinn: You replace '$xboxinput' in line 10 with '$(/bin/ls -l /dev/input/by-id/usb-Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Wireless_Controller-event-joystick | /usr/bin/awk '{print $NF}' FS=/)'. So your our $variable is created right in the command.
[19:53] <minimec> abiQuinn: In this case you don't need 'getevent' in #main and you can also remove 'check' if you want.
[19:53] <JustTheDoctor> are there any developers in this room skilled enough to create a new linux gui system based on a ubuntu server that just does a couple basic things? not like a expandable gui..
[19:53] <Younder> kristian_on_linu, common problem, I couldn't either. No simple solution. I set up a Pi with a saned device and a wireless dogle. Then set up cups samba to wire it to the net.
[19:54] <kristian_on_linu> Younder, it used to work fine
[19:54] <kristian_on_linu> I did  strace /usr/bin/xsane &> /home/kristian/xsane.txt ... let me paste it
[19:54] <Younder> If your printer supports the saned then you can user it the same way as a printer.
[19:56] <SemiNus> hi
[19:56] <lord_zoo> ho, let's go
[19:56] <abiQuinn> minimec: :(((( still nope
[19:56] <SemiNus> how can I purge all software that was installed because of a manually added PPA ?
[19:56] <kristian_on_linu> Younder, it was working
[19:57] <abiQuinn> minimec: just to confirm this updated script does still work in konsole
[19:57] <minimec> abiQuinn: Does it still work in the terminal, once you remove 'getevent' in #main
[19:57] <abiQuinn> minimec: ypu
[19:57] <rajivmars> is ubuntu-restricted-extras works with ubuntu-mate ot it has some other software for codecs?
[19:59] <Younder> kristian_on_linu, Well it wan't on mine. And about 50 or so % have a problem with the scanner
[19:59] <nemo> BTW. coworker's laptop w/ hopelessly broken suspend is: https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201606-22367/  which hilariously ubuntu awards "certified preinstall"
[19:59] <minimec> abiQuinn: Oh boy. So we know that the udev rule gets triggered, because you have an additional 'date' in the logfile. We also now, that 'initialize' does work, because it works in the terminal. But 'initialize' doesn't work in the udev rule... we tried a lot, didn't we...
[19:59] <nemo> says hibernate doesn't function but isn't just hibernate - suspend, switch user..
[20:00] <Younder> kristian_on_linu, correction.. woriking on a wireless printer. On usb it works fine
[20:00] <kristian_on_linu> this is wireless
[20:00] <abiQuinn> minimec: tried so fucking much... I can't believe this shit still doesn't just work... and every single time it's worked in konsole too just not through udev
[20:01] <abiQuinn> minimec: bloody udev man
[20:02] <oerheks> nemo, so? that page says Hibernate is not working on this system + Bluetooth 4.0 HID devices are not working on this system
[20:02] <Younder> abiQuinn, language..
[20:02] <abiQuinn> Younder: sorry... it's been like 8-10 hours on the same problem
[20:02] <nemo> oerheks: hibernate != suspend
[20:02] <nemo> oerheks: also even switch user kills the system irrecoverably
[20:03] <nemo> oerheks: https://askubuntu.com/questions/3369/what-is-the-difference-between-hibernate-and-suspend
[20:04] <nemo> oerheks: by irrecoverably I mean filesystem is corrupted - sometimes fsck works. often it does not
[20:04] <kristian_on_linu> finally managed to paste it somewhere: https://justpaste.it/18np1
[20:05] <ubernets> I connected my printer to the wifi network and installed manufacturer driver. I can open the printer IP address fine, and can ping its IP address, and can add it as a printer, but I cannot print to it.
[20:05] <ubernets> Message is always unable to locate the printer
[20:05] <minimec> abiQuinn: Hmmm... So maybe we need 'sudo /usr/bin/xboxdrv ...' in line 10, even though that seems useless to me...
[20:06] <ubernets> Any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[20:06] <abiQuinn> minimec: if that fixes i'll hang myself
[20:06] <ubernets> printer is a brother mfc j4420dw
[20:06] <nemo> oerheks: my friend says switching to 4.5 (probably this) http://www.yourownlinux.com/2016/05/how-to-install-linux-kernel-4-5-4-in-linux.html  did fix the suspend
[20:06] <nemo> oerheks: but broke other things - likely a driver issue
[20:06] <Younder> ubernets, have yo set up samba
[20:07] <nemo> oerheks: but was just amused at how understated and optimistic that compatibility page was
[20:07] <ubernets> Not that I know of. How do  I set it up?
[20:07] <abiQuinn> minimec: nope still nothing
[20:08] <minimec> abiQuinn: Well the major progress was adding an absolute path to the commands. Oh so se also may need an absolute path for 'sudo'...
[20:08] <oerheks> nemo, oh, Ubuntu 16.04.2 installs a 4.8 kernel for new installations. maybe that helps..
[20:08] <ubernets> Younder I thought samba is only to connect to windows computers
[20:08] <nemo> oerheks: oh really? interesting
[20:08] <nemo> oerheks: so. download a brand new 16.04 ?
[20:09] <Younder> ubernets, No it is more or less standard on ubuntu.
[20:09] <ubernets> Younder installing samba now. Anything else I need to do?
[20:09] <minimec> abiQuinn: so line 10 "/usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/xboxdrv..."
[20:09] <oerheks> nemo or use udo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/885054/upgrade-16-04-2-lts-to-kernel-version-4-8
[20:09] <oerheks> * on current install
[20:09] <kristian_on_linu> updating kernel now
[20:10] <abiQuinn> still nothing minimec
[20:10] <abiQuinn> :'(
[20:12] <minimec> abiQuinn: Well... At least you can attach the device with one only command now, without having to dig for the input event.
[20:12] <Younder> ubernets, Well the standard network wide printer interface is CUPS (usually run under SAMBA (SMB wich means Simple Message Blocks and is used by windows to address the network)
[20:12] <abiQuinn> minimec: thats true :L
[20:12] <minimec> abiQuinn: And we have abase that might help you if you find a 'udev master' here in the channel...
[20:13] <Younder> ubernets, Both a samba client and CUPS shuld be installed  already
[20:13] <abiQuinn> minimec: could it be that the udev rule is run before the controller is actually added?
[20:13] <Younder> ubernets, So it's a setup problem
[20:13] <ubernets> Younder how can I check it?
[20:14] <minimec> abiQuinn: Well.. We could add a line in our script right before line 10 like "sleep 10".
[20:15] <abiQuinn> I think it's maybe a case of udev runs the rules then adds the controller
[20:16] <abiQuinn> minimec: I only say that because I only say that because monitor says the following monitor will print the received events for:
[20:16] <abiQuinn> UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing
[20:16] <abiQuinn> minimec: so the rules get done then the add event happens?
[20:17] <Younder> ubernets, I need to know wether you are running a desktop or server
[20:17] <ubernets> Younder desktop
[20:19] <Younder> ubernets, Ok Alt printers gives you the menu
[20:19] <abiQuinn> minimec: that can't be the case actually because there is the 'ACTION=="add"' option :L
[20:19] <ubernets> Younder Alt printers? Please explain
[20:19] <Younder> ubernets, Ok Alt and the type 'printers' gives you the menu
[20:19] <ubernets> I'm on xubuntu
[20:20] <ubernets> Younder ok I can open the printers menu
[20:20] <minimec> abiQuinn: Well the script gets executes, because you should have that additional 'log' stamp in the log file, right?
[20:20] <ubernets> Younder in fact I was looking at it the whole time. The printer is there already
[20:20] <Younder> Well it is absically in the systems settins menu. Can you find that?
[20:20] <abiQuinn> minimec: yeh I do
[20:21] <UNIcodeX_> I have multiple disks in my machine. how do I tell the ubuntu installer which one to use? I'm at the parte where it wants to overwrite empty disk space, but nothing has prompted me for which disk yet...
[20:21] <ubernets> Younder I already opened the printers menu and kept trying to print the test page. So how can I troubleshoot from here?
[20:22] <ubernets> Younder one thing I noticed is that there is an escaped space in the device uri. Do you think that could case problems?
[20:25] <Younder> ubernets, Well I have a %20 in my file path to. And it works. So no
[20:25] <nemo> oerheks: correction. he's already on 4.8 - that's apparently the one corrupting his machine
[20:26] <nemo> oerheks: the one that worked was apparently 4.9 or 5.0
[20:26] <UNIcodeX_> anyone?
[20:27] <nemo> UNIcodeX_: the installer should have an option to specify
[20:27] <nemo> UNIcodeX_: as opposed to automagically figure out
[20:27] <nemo> where it pulls up that screen w/ the friendly-ish gparted looking thing - should be able to specify disks there
[20:28]  * nemo has not used the installer in quite some time
[20:28] <nemo> hunting for screenshots
[20:28] <ubernets> Younder so what else could be the problem?
[20:28] <Younder> UNIcodeX_, OK. i have 4 disks on my machine. one a ssd is sda. 2 is two 1 Tb disaks in raid 0 set up by the bios. and the third is nor part of the filsystem and thus accessed trough /media
[20:30] <metoo606> hello world i face problem with my ubuntu \n when i connect my android phone with computer cant see some my files audio vedio and some file else so need help
[20:31] <Younder> gota go!
[20:31] <nemo> metoo606: could they possibly be DRM controlled stuff that's not being made accessible through the shared filesystem?
[20:32] <nemo> metoo606: do you at least see your DCIM folder?
[20:33] <metoo606> nemo : i can see DCIM but cant see its content
[20:34] <nemo> huh
[20:34] <nemo> metoo606: what version of ubuntu?
[20:34] <nemo> and android
[20:35] <metoo606> im using trusty
[20:35] <nemo> metoo606: just wanna be clear that this is an MTP phone and a version of ubuntu with good MTP support
[20:36] <nemo> metoo606: ok. same one I use - you might have to update your mtp support.
[20:37] <nemo> metoo606: basically, I poked around for mtp trusty way back when... did something like this... or used ppa. can't remember https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226702
[20:37] <metoo606> nemo :ok ill try it
[20:37] <nemo> metoo606: but I do recall that the default MTP at time was kinda meh - it was a very new protocol
[20:37] <Ben64> upgrade to xenial
[20:37] <UNIcodeX_> Younder, nemo, ok. so when I hit "install now" it asks me the disk I want to use, but it says ext4. I want btrfs. I'm going to have to manually install huh?
[20:37] <nemo> Ben64: I'm going to upgrade to devuan 😝
[20:37] <UNIcodeX_> make changes to the layout
[20:37] <Ben64> nemo: ok?
[20:38] <omber> Hi there, I am attempting to install older version of Samba (2.4.1.6) but apt is failing to grab specified samba-libs package?
[20:38] <metoo606> ill update mtp and try againe
[20:38] <nemo> gl
[20:39] <nemo> metoo606: if you're on a super old version of android there's no MTP
[20:39] <nemo> metoo606: and you could be running into locking issues here
[20:39] <nemo> (thus the invisible stuff)
[20:39] <nemo> metoo606: popping the SD card or shutting down all the things I think was the solution at the time
[20:40] <nemo> metoo606: I guess another possibility, also w/ old android, is that you're seeing the wrong DCIM folder (internal vs SD or vice versa)
[20:40] <abiQuinn> minimec: we're done right?
[20:41] <abiQuinn> minimec: or were you still trying?
[20:41] <minimec> abiQuinn: Unfortunately I am really out of ideas... So I gues we're done.
[20:41] <abiQuinn> minimec: yeh no worries bud, thanks for trying :D
[20:41] <minimec> abiQuinn: I am just watching an episode of 'the newsroom'... ;)
[20:42] <abiQuinn> im gonna get some sleep and see if I can find a udev master in the morning :D
[20:42] <minimec> abiQuinn: It was good brain food for me too, besides having cleaned half of my appartment and doing my laundry... :)
[20:42] <metoo606> thank nemo ill see and go back
[20:42]  * omber cries
[20:43] <minimec> abiQuinn: Have a good n8
[20:43] <abiQuinn> minimec: failing that I suppose maybe I could make it a cronjob or something?
[20:43] <omber> I updated Samba on my home box to 2:4.3-11 on my home box today. Now it segfaults on startup. Update from repo of course.
[20:44] <minimec> abiQuinn: If your device is plugged when booting, you can add the launch command of the script to /etc/rc.local before the 'exit 0' statement. That should do.
[20:58] <ubernets> Can someone help me with my wlan printer. I can ping it, can see it in router, can open printer webserver, can add printer to available printer, but when I try to print it says "unable to locate". Any idea why?
[21:00] <nemo> ubernets: so. I'm super unfamiliar w/ printers and their various WTFisms, but one thing I *have* learned is that if random printer X is failing in some inexplicable fashion, whether one is on Windows, OSX or Linux
[21:00] <nemo> ubernets: try switching printer drivers and/or protocols
[21:00] <nemo> ubernets: in this case I'd suggest protocol first
[21:00] <nemo> ubernets: jetdirect/ipp/unix
[21:01] <nemo> ubernets: ipp is usually the most reliable, but not always
[21:01] <nemo> office printer for some insane reason only handled unix
[21:01] <nemo> even under windows had to go through some ridiculous hoops of specifying the "wrong" driver and alternate connection method
[21:01] <ubernets> nemo I'm sorry, how to go about switching protocols?
[21:02] <nemo> ubernets: when you add the printer, there should be a specify option
[21:02] <oerheks> 17.04 got nice new ipp/apple protocol onboard
[21:02] <nemo> lemme fire up the add printer wizard here in MATE
[21:02] <nemo> ubernets: so... under the [+] Add Printer option, there is a Network Printer dropdown - at least in the wizard I'm using
[21:03] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes#Driverless_Printing
[21:03] <ubernets> The wizard finds the printer, and I can choose that, then it will use ipp via dns-sd is what it says
[21:03] <nemo> ok
[21:03] <nemo> ubernets: try another protocol then ☺
[21:04] <nemo> ubernets: you don't see a list of protocols in the initial thing? guess you're using a different wizard :/
[21:04] <ubernets> nemo I see the list
[21:05] <nemo> ubernets: ok. so try, oh, jetdirect plus the IP of the printer
[21:05] <ubernets> nemo for example if I choose ipps it asks me for a device uri
[21:05] <nemo> ubernets: I'd try jetdirect first since you said IPP was failing
[21:05] <ubernets> nemo I don't have jetdirect in my list
[21:05] <nemo> huh...
[21:06] <ubernets> Oh my bad, there it is
[21:06] <ubernets> AppSocket/HP JetDirect
[21:06] <nemo> ubernets: also on my wizard it gives examples of IPP URIs when you select IPP*
[21:08] <ubernets> nemo jetdirect also asks for a port number. I don't see the port number in the printer webserver. Should I just go with the default 9100?
[21:08] <nemo> ubernets: yes
[21:08] <nemo> ubernets: also. I've found w/ WTF printers, sometimes selecting a more minimalist driver can at least get you some support even if you lose some printer feature like the large tray.  so if you try changing drivers next, generic postscript 2 (or 3) is sometimes a good choice.
[21:08] <nemo> apart from that you've pretty much exhausted my printer familiarity 😉
[21:09] <ubernets> nemo the damn test page was printed
[21:09] <nemo> last resort is plugging it in over USB 😉
[21:09] <ubernets> nemo thanks a lot
[21:09] <nemo> ubernets: ok. great. np
[21:09] <nemo> ubernets: hardware companies are so awful at software interfaces I swear ☺
[21:10] <ubernets> nemo yes and their support is useless. Especially once they hear Ubuntu they shut off
[21:11] <nemo> ubernets: I've had just as awful experiences under windows tho
[21:11] <nemo> although at least they usually include "drivers"
[21:11] <nemo> as in a CD's worth of useless crap I have no admin privs on the work laptop to even install
[21:11] <nemo> end up hunting through it for a ppd file
[21:38] <gambl0re> how do i output a file and then put that contents into a new file?
[21:38] <gambl0re> i know its something like cat file >> file2 ?
[21:38] <omber> cat sourcefile.txt > newfile.txt ?
[21:39] <omber> > and >> work differently if file2 / destination exists
[21:39] <omber> > overwrites destination, >> appends to destination
[21:39] <gambl0re> thanks
[21:43] <gambl0re> anyone know a good linux book?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:32] <wyth> Anyone around that can provide some insight into my LVM/Mounting problem? https://askubuntu.com/questions/932295/new-disk-in-lvm-cpu-locks-up-with-kernel-errors
[23:51] <Jakethepython> Hello room i need to setup a VPN so i can map a drive on a linux server
[23:52] <Jakethepython> I have installed Open VPN