[04:56] <MooDoo> hello all
[08:35] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[12:47] <Azelphur> Anyone here been down the rabbit hole with regards to file systems? I'm currently running a 7 x 5TB RAID6 Array on ext4, and I'm pondering whether that's the best decision. I've read that, in case of drive malfunction it would propogate corrupted data across the array. I've heard lots of good things about ZFS - but apparently it doesn't support expanding arrays, which is critical for me.
[12:48] <SuperMatt> I think for lots of small files, xfs is best
[12:49] <Azelphur> as you can imagine, on an array that big I've got lots of everything
[12:49] <Azelphur> but I think I'm less concerned with performance, and more concerned with bitrot
[12:50] <SuperMatt> ZFS is a bit of second class citizen really
[12:50] <SuperMatt> I think xfs is the one you want to look at
[12:50] <SuperMatt> most distros will either suggest ext4 or xfs before anything else
[12:51] <Azelphur> interesting
[12:55] <SuperMatt> There's always btrfs too, but I think too many people were bitten by it early in its development, that it has lost favour
[12:56] <Azelphur> SuperMatt: yea, I've read the same things
[13:04] <popey> . /usr/bin/byobu-reconnect-sockets
[13:04] <popey> . /usr/bin/byobu-reconnect-sockets
[13:04] <popey> . /usr/bin/byobu-reconnect-sockets
[13:04] <popey> oops
[13:08] <SuperMatt> silly popey
[13:22] <popey> no idea what i pressed which made that happen
[13:26] <SuperMatt> I think an fn button does it
[13:41] <diddledan> what the actual: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/05/cps_asks_suppliers_to_fight_it_out_over_3_usb_cable_tender/
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> i think the proper method as approved by the bofh is to put all the suppliers in one room with half bricks... winner gets to sell the cable
[13:46] <andrew_> part
[14:38]  * diddledan twiddles his thumbs
[14:40]  * zmoylan-pi twiddles someone elses thumbs...
[14:41] <diddledan> are they still attached to the other person's hands or did you cut them off?
[14:42]  * zmoylan-pi feels that answering that would make diddledan accessory to the fact and spares him the information... :-P
[14:45]  * zmoylan-pi misses my thumb shaped usb thumb drives... :-(
[14:47] <diddledan> omg, a thumb thumb?!
[14:47] <diddledan> that's totally meta!
[14:48] <zmoylan-pi> a fiver in tiger shop for 4gb drive... i had a few but a lot of people didn't return them and claimed they had lost them...
[14:49] <zmoylan-pi> i'm now keeping an eye out for horse shaped ones... :-P
[14:49] <diddledan> There's an australian series called "The Code" where the protagonist has a lego thumbdrive which he hid at one point in a lego model
[14:50] <diddledan> my nephew couldn't say "horse" properly so when he wanted to go say hello he'd ask his parents "can we go to see the whores?"
[14:51] <zmoylan-pi> a jihadi wannabe was done for storing all his terrorist material on usb cufflinks...
[14:51] <zmoylan-pi> cause seeing someone wearing cufflinks isn't suspicious at all...
[14:51] <diddledan> yeah, now they've listed usb cufflinks as an indication that you're definitely a terrorist
[14:52] <zmoylan-pi> i did nearly report someone when i saw a guy in a suit using a payphone... this was before iphones existed and phones lasted weeks...
[14:53] <diddledan> he was surely superman getting changed into his supersuit, no?
[14:53] <diddledan> or deadpool
[14:53] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qicXB4uu6rY
[14:53] <zmoylan-pi> superman wouldn't work in ireland as we don't have access to sunlight to power his abilities :-)
[15:35] <marcio> Any beagle bone users
[15:49] <diddledan> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/picorder/
[20:52] <m0nkey_> What's the deal with Ubuntu going to the Gnome desktop?
[20:55] <daftykins> it's become fashionable to dump everything they've been trying, it seems
[20:59] <zmoylan-pi> jump on latest buzzword, plough resources into it for a few years and then dump it as it's just getting close to useable...
[20:59] <m0nkey_> I sort of like Unity.
[21:00] <diddledan> "sort of"
[21:00] <daftykins> https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3052/7266/ this is novel
[21:01] <m0nkey_> Let's be honest. It's one of the better out of the box desktop experiences. With KDE, Gnome and XFCE, I've always had to fudge about for a few hours.
[21:05] <zmoylan-pi> i did use unity for a few months on one install of ubuntu... but that was because i had used windows 8 for about 3 months so i think it was more a stockholm syndrome thing... :-)
[21:06] <daftykins> ah you were used to interfaces that made no sense by that point eh?
[21:07] <zmoylan-pi> at that point i'd have been happy with gem
[21:08] <brobostigon> i have used gnome on pretty much every machine since i the late 90's except for BeOS/haiku, wheather it was a gnu'linux based system and or a bsd one, so one of the first things i always install is gnome, :)
[21:09] <brobostigon> so to me, if unity was there ot not, it made little difference to me.
[21:10] <daftykins> i dabbled with xubuntu on some old laptops but wow at the basic mistakes made, screen power save still kicking in during video playback? just what...