[00:08] <exp0sure> have you been able to connect to your server?
[00:11] <wyth> exp0sure: Me?
[00:11] <wyth> Oh, probably Jakethepython I guess
[00:11] <exp0sure> yeah
[00:11] <Jakethepython> huh wyth?
[00:11] <wyth> exp0sure: If I edit out the fstab so that the lvm will not mount then I can connect, yes
[00:12] <wyth> exp0sure: After I try to mount it though it crashes
[00:13] <Halleluia> minimec
[00:13] <Halleluia> abiQuinn
[00:14] <Jakethepython> -bash: cd: /home/jacob/openvpn-ca: Permission denied
[00:15] <th0r> Jakethepython: is openvpn-ca a directory or a script name?
[00:16] <Jakethepython> directory
[00:16] <__Yiota> you don't own it
[00:16] <__Yiota> chown it
[00:16] <th0r> Jakethepython: then check the ownership and permissions
[00:22] <Jakethepython> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25035718/
[00:24] <th0r> Jakethepython: go up one level and see what the ownership and permissions are for the directory itself, not the files in it
[00:25] <th0r> Jakethepython: it looks like everything was created by root, but I think you are trying to get into the directory as a user
[00:25] <Jakethepython> i thought if i sudo i could get into a root directory
[00:26] <wyth> I don't think sudo cd is generally a thing you go, you're better off changing the permissions
[00:26] <wyth> cd /home/jacob, then do ls -lha and see what the permissions are on the openvpn-ca folder
[00:28] <th0r> Jakethepython: why are you putting a folder and links that are owned by root in a user home?
[00:29] <Jakethepython> i didn't mean to make it a root folder
[00:29] <wyth> th0r: I'm imagining he installed it as root when he didn't need to
[00:29] <Jakethepython> should i just delte the directory and make a new one?
[00:29] <th0r> Jakethepython: even if you change the ownership of the links and the folder, I don't think you will be able todo anything with it. The things the links point to are still owned by root
[00:31] <Halleluia> is it good to disable guest account?
[00:31] <Jakethepython> should i just make a new directory and do nothign w/ that for now?
[00:31] <Halleluia> is it good to disable guest account?
[00:32] <th0r> Jakethepython: can't say...still don't know what you are trying to do
[00:32] <th0r> Jakethepython: what do you want to accomplish?
[00:32] <Jakethepython> I am trying to set up a vpn
[00:32] <Jakethepython> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04#step-3-configure-the-ca-variables
[00:33] <th0r> Jakethepython: you don't need all that stuff in the folder. I just invoke the openvpn command in a small script. I keep the script in ~/bin so I can edit it, and link it to /usr/local/bin so it is in the path
[00:34] <th0r> Jakethepython: do you have a .ovpn file from the vpn provider? or are you trying to run your own vpn?
[00:34] <Jakethepython> run my own VPN
[00:35] <Jakethepython> this is all on a server
[00:35] <Jakethepython> that i need vpn access to for a subversion thing
[00:36] <th0r> Never set up my own vpn service, so can't help with that. But I am fairly certain the folder you have isn;t the way to do it.
[00:36] <Jakethepython> it didn't look right but i was following directions..or trying to..
[00:37] <th0r> Jakethepython: I would not want to say 'I don't know how to set one up, but that way is wrong', so I won't :)
[00:38] <Jakethepython> hahahaha
[00:38] <Jakethepython> ok
[00:40] <Halleluia> is it good to disable guest account
[00:55] <fishcooker> how to press enter automatically after the dialog box appears
[01:10] <Halleluia> how do I disable guest account
[01:13] <platypus> Halleluia, 16.04?
[01:13] <Halleluia> yes
[01:14] <platypus> sudo sh -c 'printf "[Seat:*]\nallow-guest=false\n" >/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-no-guest.conf'
[01:14] <Halleluia> How do I copy files to /var/www/html
[01:16] <platypus> permissions issue
[01:16] <platypus> use chown
[01:16] <Halleluia> whats the command
[01:17] <Halleluia> e.g. copy files in /Documents /var/www/html
[01:19] <platypus> make a user group and give it the perms
[01:19] <Halleluia> I already have a group ... how do i give the group blessing the perms. whats the cmd
[01:23] <platypus> sudo chown -R username:group /var/www/
[01:23] <platypus> o
[01:23] <platypus> rip
[01:24] <Halleluia> platypus: .................. Still there
[01:24] <platypus> Halleluia, sudo chown -R username:group /var/www/
[01:25] <platypus> and then cp -R /Documents /var/www/html
[01:25] <Halleluia> thanks platypus
[01:26] <theorem_> how does one mount an ubuntu server drive to make changes to the kernel boot options ?
[01:26] <theorem_> assuming /dev/sda1
[01:28] <Bashing-om> theorem_: "kernel boot options ?" One passes arguments to the kerenl from the /etc/default/grub file .
[01:29] <theorem_> got it
[01:29] <Halleluia> gksu gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[01:29] <Halleluia> platypus if I do gksu gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[01:29] <platypus> Halleluia, ?
[01:29] <theorem_> I need to use the ubuntu 16.0.4.2 server install to make modifications to that file
[01:29] <Halleluia> I get error cos there is no password for root or so. Do I need to enable root
[01:29] <theorem_> I am on the terminal , but having trouble finding the right partition to mount to edit
[01:30] <platypus> Halleluia, what happens if you type "sudo su"
[01:31] <theorem_> Bashing-om: I believe that hte OS is on /dev/sde1   , but when I "mount /dev/sde1 /mnt/local" I get "Invalid Argument"
[01:32] <theorem_> Bashing-om: any hints ?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> theorem_: pastenin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' let's identify the target to be mounted .
[01:33] <theorem_> no fdisk on the Ubuntu server 16.0.4 install it seems ...
[01:33] <Halleluia> blessing@Device:~$ sudo su
[01:33] <Halleluia> root@Device:/home/blessing#
[01:34] <theorem_> I do see dmesg
[01:34] <Bashing-om> theorem_: ' sudo parted -l ' ???
[01:34] <theorem_> no parted either
[01:34] <theorem_> I see a partition on /dev/sde by listing the directory
[01:34] <theorem_> no other drive has a partition as far as I can tell
[01:36] <Bashing-om> theorem_: Hummm -> " server install to make modifications" I do not think the server edition has a live environment . Burn a desktop .iso ??
[01:36] <Halleluia> platypus
[01:36] <theorem_> ugh
[01:36] <theorem_> I guess I can
[01:37] <Bashing-om> theorem_: If you can "see" the target, then there is no need to mount it . right ?
[01:37] <theorem_> not sure I follow
[01:37] <theorem_> I have it in /dev which must be mounted to access as a fs
[01:39] <Bashing-om> theorem_: "I see a partition on /dev/sde by listing the directory" . If you can list you can access . No need to attempt to mount it again .
[01:39] <theorem_> it's not mounted.
[01:39] <theorem_> sde1 refuses to mount
[01:40] <pavlos> theorem_: fdisk /dev/sde should give you info
[01:40] <Bashing-om> theorem_: Must be or you could not list it . We nned to get on the sdame page here . Basic foundation is booting a live desktop .
[01:42] <theorem_> pavlos: trying fdisk
[01:42] <theorem_> fdisk is not on the install ...
[01:43] <dkeav> anyone know if there is a pulseaudio-module-sndio package?
[01:44] <reCoy^> rxvt*modifier: alt
[01:48] <theorem_> Bashing-om: will try the desktop version
[01:49] <iopq> Ctrl + 5 does not work in my Wine game for some reason. Ctrl + 4 works and Shift + 5 works, how can I fix this?
[01:50] <Bashing-om> theorem_: K. that is a way forward .
[02:09] <dkeav> nevermind, i was able to get the module from openbsd to build and work
[02:46] <theorem_> ok
[02:46] <theorem_> got things moving
[02:46] <theorem_> NVME is not bootable
[02:46] <theorem_> SSD is.
[02:55] <Bashing-om> theorem_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1678184 seem applicable ?
[02:58] <theorem_> no
[02:58] <theorem_> fairly unrelated
[02:59] <Hulio> hi guys, how can i check ubuntu virtual memory size?
[02:59] <Hulio> does ubuntu have paging file?
[02:59] <CHVNX> Hulio: No, Linux uses swap partitions, however, you can create a swap file if you want.
[02:59] <theorem_> this is pre-release Intel hardware.  It has a ton of nvme drives and SSD to sort out.  seems that the BIOS prefers the SATA devices to boot.
[02:59] <CHVNX> It is not advised.
[03:00] <theorem_> Bashing-om: ^^
[03:00] <Hulio> i have no idea
[03:00] <Hulio> but i got this issue:  GPU 0, GpuMiner cu_kd failed 8 (0), invalid device function
[03:00] <Hulio> GPU 0, Calc DAG failed!
[03:00] <Hulio> do you know what is the issue?
[03:01] <CHVNX> Where are you getting this message?
[03:01] <theorem_> sounds like permissions
[03:02] <Hulio> doing mining
[03:02] <Hulio> with GTX 580 old card, i just doing it as testing to learn it
[03:02] <Bashing-om> theorem_: I do not know enough about NVME to really have any good advise then . AHCI enabled in the firmware ?
[03:02] <CHVNX> AMD and NVIDIA?>
[03:02] <theorem_> Bashing-om: I have things booting now using SSD
[03:02] <theorem_> Bashing-om: so I think I am almost there .
[03:03] <theorem_> Bashing-om: default boot uses the new kernel options of "nomodeset modprobe.blacklist=ast"
[03:03] <theorem_> and seems to progress things
[03:04] <CHVNX> Hulio: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.5040
[03:05] <Hulio> CHVNX, i did look at that site so many time , and dont know what to do
[03:05] <Hulio> i am using ubuntu 16.04
[03:05] <RBoreal_Frippery> Hello, I managed to mess up cairo while installing an R package
[03:06] <RBoreal_Frippery> and I cant seem to find out how to reinstall cairo properly
[03:06] <CHVNX> With your package manager, obviously
[03:06] <RBoreal_Frippery> I get for example /usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute
[03:06] <RBoreal_Frippery> when trying to launch firefox
[03:06] <RBoreal_Frippery> package manager with --reinstall on all cairo packages did not seem to change it
[03:08] <CHVNX> How did you install the R packages?
[03:08] <wyth> Is there a way to have a a yes flag on a command, except for when the first question is abort? lol
[03:08] <RBoreal_Frippery> Well initially I was just using install.packages(), but there were getting to be c++ compile errors with it
[03:09] <CHVNX> RBoreal_Frippery: Why didn't you use Ubuntu's package manager?
[03:09] <Hulio> CHVNX, do you mind help me?
[03:09] <Hulio> i really dont know what to do
[03:09] <Hulio> GPU 0, GpuMiner cu_kd failed 8 (0), invalid device function
[03:10] <RBoreal_Frippery> Then my fault, I used apt-file to find where cairo was installed, I think /usr/include/cairo, and removed the package, and then thr directory was not removed with it, so I removed the directory manually and reinstalled the package. The directory came back, but not it does not work.
[03:10] <RBoreal_Frippery> I didnt use package manager because it was a from-source version of R
[03:10] <CHVNX> Jesus Christ, no wonder it doesn't work. You deleted the package and its files.
[03:10] <CHVNX> You're new to Linux, aren't you?.. haha
[03:10] <Hulio> CHVNX, me?
[03:10] <CHVNX> No, Hulio.
[03:11] <RBoreal_Frippery> if there any way to recompile the cairo?
[03:11] <CHVNX> Hulio: Your issue is a drivers problem, and a kernel issue. You should consider asking people from the bitcoin community who have similar hardware.
[03:11] <RBoreal_Frippery> or have the package manager reinstall the dependencies?
[03:11] <Hulio> oh
[03:12] <CHVNX> RBoreal_Frippery: reinstall all cairo packages and their dependancies. Do the following:
[03:12] <wyth> I want to run e2fsck -fy, but the first thing that comes up asks to abort. Does anyone know how to circumvent this?
[03:13] <CHVNX> RBoreal_Frippery: sudo apt-cache depends <package>
[03:13] <CHVNX> RBoreal_Frippery: Using the results of that command, we get the following one, which re-installs <package> and its dependencies:  $ sudo apt-cache depends <package> | grep '[ |]Depends: [^<]' | cut -d: -f2 | tr -d ' ' | xargs sudo apt-get --reinstall install -y
[03:14] <RBoreal_Frippery> tried it with firefox and libcairo2-dev , no luch yet
[03:14] <Hulio> CHVNX, maybe i should try it with windows 10
[03:14] <RBoreal_Frippery> (also reinstalled those two package themselves)
[03:15] <Hulio> CHVNX, can you please tell me how i can create .iso to usb so i can boot ?
[03:15] <CHVNX> Hulio: Did you read the link I gave you? It was dealing with a similar issue. It was AMD and NVIDIA driver issue.
[03:15] <Hulio> is there something for ubuntu to do that?
[03:15] <Hulio> CHVNX, i read, but i dont understand
[03:15] <Hulio> as i already have driver installed
[03:15] <Hulio> also how can i tell what driver it is currenly used?
[03:16] <CHVNX> Hulio: Download iso.  Use DD to create a bootable USB.  dd bs=4M if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx
[03:16] <Hulio> i think it is using nvidia driver x64 375.66 version
[03:16] <CHVNX> Hulio: sdx being the specific name of the USB. NOT one of iuts partitions, but the drive itself.
[03:16] <CHVNX> "bs=4M" is optional. Its just to make it faster
[03:17] <Hulio> CHVNX, how can i find sdx <--- list drive ?
[03:17] <Hulio> is the command for it?
[03:17] <Hulio> there*
[03:17] <pitiye> anyone has implemented common history on all bash terminals ?
[03:17] <Hulio> i love ubuntu so much now i have to put windows 10 because of that error
[03:17] <CHVNX> Hulio: sudo fdisk -l
[03:18] <Hulio> CHVNX, /dev/sdg1  *     2048 60530687 60528640 28.9G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[03:19] <Hulio> so it is sdg1 ?
[03:19] <Hulio> i have a 32GB USB
[03:19] <CHVNX> pitiye: Would you like to preserve bash history in multiple terminal windows, or would you like to share bash history across accounts?
[03:19] <CHVNX> Basically, are you trying to sync history across terminals, or share history among userS?
[03:19] <wyth> How do I run e2fsck without having to hold down the enter key until the eventual heat death of the universe?
[03:20] <Hulio> CHVNX, i wish you can connect to my ubuntu(remote) to help me
[03:20] <Hulio> solve the mining issue
[03:20] <CHVNX> Hulio: If that looks like the proper drive, then /dev/sdg is the proper location. Correct.  NOT /dev/sdg1
[03:21] <CHVNX> Hulio: That is unsafe. I refuse to connect to youre system remotely. Sorry.  I do not advise you ask anyone for that sort of assistance.
[03:21] <CHVNX> your*
[03:21] <CHVNX> assistence*
[03:21] <Hulio> but i'm not afraid
[03:21] <Hulio> :)
[03:21] <CHVNX> Ugh, it's late.
[03:21] <Hulio> oh okay
[03:21] <CHVNX> Hulio: You should be, because I am.
[03:21] <Hulio> ok
[03:22] <pitiye> CHVNX: the former - i want to preserve bash history in multiple terminals
[03:23] <Hulio> CHVNX, dd: failed to open '/dev/sdg': Permission denied
[03:23] <Hulio> ???
[03:23] <Hulio> with a sudo ?
[03:23] <CHVNX> Hulio: use sudo or perform operation as root user.
[03:23] <Hulio> it works now
[03:23] <CHVNX> pitiye: Which version of bash?  In your terminal type: bash --version
[03:24] <CHVNX> Please paste the first line of output
[03:24] <pitiye> CHVNX: GNU bash, version 4.4.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[03:24] <Hulio> i love ubuntu man
[03:24] <Hulio> :( too bad
[03:24] <Hulio> i will have to put win 10 now
[03:24] <CHVNX> pitiye: In your .bashrc file, add the following two lines:
[03:24] <CHVNX> pitiye: shopt -s histappend
[03:25] <CHVNX> pitiye: PROMPT_COMMAND="history -a;history -c;history -r;$PROMPT_COMMAND"
[03:25] <wyth> This is so stupid. Why would the phrasing be "Abort?" instead of "Are you sure you want to continue?" It makes -y completely useless
[03:25] <CHVNX> pitiye: If the histappend shell option is enabled (see the description of shopt under SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS below), the lines are appended to the history file, otherwise the history file is over-written.
[03:25] <CHVNX> from man bash
[03:25] <pitiye> CHVNX:  i have shopt -s histappend line
[03:26] <pitiye> CHVNX: i have this too - export PROMPT_COMMAND="${PROMPT_COMMAND:+$PROMPT_COMMAND$'\n'}history -a; history -c; history -r"
[03:27] <Bashing-om> wyth:
[03:29] <Bashing-om> wyth: Try as:' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sdXY '. where XY is the drive/partition - as in sde4.
[03:29] <CHVNX> pitiye: https://pastebin.com/raw/DcKhma6i
[03:29] <CHVNX> Give that a try.
[03:30] <Jonno_FTW> hello, cp stopped copying a file I told it to copy
[03:30] <Jonno_FTW> I tried ^C but it doesn't stop
[03:30] <Jonno_FTW> and it doesn't come up in ps aux | grep cp
[03:30] <CHVNX> Open another terminal and type killall cp
[03:30] <Jonno_FTW> nothing
[03:30] <wyth> Bashing-om: Unfortunately it won't let it run with -p. "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY."
[03:30] <pitiye> CHVNX: ty  - but the annoying thing is - i have to hit history command twice to get the refreshed history on some terminals :/
[03:31] <CHVNX> pitiye: To be honest with you, I hate bash.  I prefer zsh, personally.
[03:31] <Bashing-om> wyth: ' sudo e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1 ' ?
[03:32] <pitiye> CHVNX: should i choose zsh ?
[03:32] <wyth> Bashing-om: -y doesn't work because the first question is "Abort?"
[03:32] <CHVNX> pitiye: You should do whatever you want.  I don't like to think for other people.
[03:33] <Bashing-om> wyth: Sorry I have no other idea .
[03:33] <wyth> Bashing-om: Well thanks for at least trying. You're a champ around here.
[03:34] <Bashing-om> wyth: Well, blushfully - why do you need/want to run the file system check with auto yes ?
[03:35] <wyth> I just find it hard to believe that such a silly oversight like that exists. In that kind of situation I guess you have to just tape your enter key down when you want it to fix every single block
[03:36] <wyth> Bashing-om: Somehow the filesystem size ended up being larger than the partition size. I can't use resize2fs until e2fsck has run. So every block over is a new prompt
[03:37] <Bashing-om> wyth: Ouch . I no of no other way than a lot of y's . The system wants you aware of what it is doing :)
[03:38] <wyth> resize2fs: Can't read a block bitmap while trying to resize. Please run 'e2fsck -fy /dev/media/volume' to fix the filesystem. But of course if you try that it immediately aborts.
[03:38] <wyth> Bashing-om: Again, thanks anyways
[03:39] <RBoreal_Frippery> hey guys, still trying to get firefox working again
[03:39] <RBoreal_Frippery> I now have
[03:39] <RBoreal_Frippery> (firefox:6278): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'object->ref_count > 0' failed
[03:39] <RBoreal_Frippery> firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute
[03:40] <RBoreal_Frippery> does anyone have a remote idea of what exactly I have to reinstall here?
[03:40] <Bashing-om> wyth: Maybe some inspiration : fsck http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/08/fsck-command-examples/ .
[03:43] <wyth> Bashing-om: Hm.. not seeing anything here for this particular scenario
[03:48] <abiQuinn> hey guys, I need a UDEV expert
[03:51] <CHVNX> Ask ##linux
[03:51] <abiQuinn> thanks for the recommend CHVNX
[04:04] <jliles> So, does anybody have a simple solution for teamviewer + Ubuntu 17.04
[04:04] <jliles> (Which allows for remote access to the PC running it without a user present)
[04:05] <sorin-mihai> jliles, are you using wayland?
[04:12] <hendry> which is the package for generic mail so i can test if sendmail is working? echo foo | mail -s Test john@example.com
[04:17] <jliles> sorin-mihai: No, I'm using ubuntu gnome 17.04
[04:18] <jliles> sorin-mihai: Teamviewer works fine until after the PC reboots.  Then it can't connect to the network, it has some kind of issue with libicu
[04:19] <jliles> If you uninstall it and reinstall it on every boot, it works okay.
[04:19] <sorin-mihai> jliles, the only problem i had with it was while i tried to use wayland, can't really say much about that, i just switched to xorg
[04:20] <sorin-mihai> jliles, gnome in most distros nowadays can use both wayland and xorg. i'm not sure which one is the default in 17.04
[04:20] <jliles> xorg
[04:20] <jliles> Wayland isn't even installed by default in 17.04 to my knowledge
[04:22] <sorin-mihai> can you show me the exact error you have in the logs? not sure i can help, but i might find some more info
[04:23] <jliles> Eh, give me a moment, I have to download it again, I just reinstalled the OS
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:49] <Zedua> hi
[04:49] <Zedua> is this the right place to ask ubuntu-server related questions?
[04:49] <Zedua> or is there a better place?
[04:50] <craysiii> I believe it is Zedua, ask away.
[04:50] <Zedua> thank you
[04:51] <Zedua> so, I rented a virtual server where I have root access to
[04:52] <Zedua> the problem is, that sometimes(!) I cannot reach my server via my web-browser
[04:52] <Zedua> I have apache installed
[04:52] <Zedua> the connection them simply gets a timeout
[04:52] <Zedua> a while later, all of a sudden, it works again
[04:52] <Zedua> here are some facts:
[04:53] <Zedua> 1) when I cannot connect to the server via my web-browser,  it does NOT matter which webbrowser I use!  It effects ALL browsers
[04:53] <Zedua> 2) when I use a screenshot-service like "netrenderer" to capture a screenshot,  it always works!!!!  (even when I personally cannot connect to the server)
[04:53] <CHVNX> Ask in #networking
[04:54] <Zedua> CHVNX, okay, I will
[04:54] <craysiii> Sounds like your own network
[04:54] <Zedua> since I started asking here, would you mind if I continued?
[04:54] <CHVNX> Carry on.
[04:54] <Zedua> thank you
[04:54] <Zedua> 3) When I cannot connect to my server, I can still connect to ALL other websites
[04:54] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: sounds like someone between you and the server is having routing issues. Monitor the server using a 3rd party, and see what traceroute/tracepath have to say when the fault occurs
[04:55] <Zedua> 4) I effects both, connecting to the IP and the Domain name
[04:55] <Zedua> ^ so it cannot be the DNS
[04:55] <craysiii> What Triffid said sounds sound.
[04:55] <Zedua> lol
[04:55] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: you could set up a cron job to email you traceroute/tracepath from the server back towards your ISP if you want a way to monitor the reverse path when SSH can't connect
[04:55] <craysiii> Probably a link in the chain
[04:55] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, ssh can always connect
[04:56] <Zedua> it's only the connection to apache on port 80
[04:56] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: then the networking is fine, your apache is broken
[04:56] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, but why does it work for everyone else?
[04:56] <Zedua> for my friends, people on irc, screenshot services, etc?
[04:56] <Zedua> apache delivers to all of them
[04:56] <Zedua> just not to me
[04:56] <Zedua> and only sometimes
[04:57] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: perhaps your browser holds persistent connections and they somehow get into a weird state?
[04:57] <Zedua> that's the weirdest error I ever had
[04:57] <Triffid_Hunter> lsof -i or netstat can show open connections if you want to check for that
[04:57] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, I am just having this problem in Chrome
[04:57] <Zedua> so I started firefox (the first time today)
[04:57] <Zedua> and I have the same problem in firefox
[04:57] <Abhijit> hi
[04:57] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: tried curl and wget as well?
[04:58] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, I try it now
[04:58] <Zedua> hold on
[04:58] <Abhijit> how to get git 2.10.0 in ubuntu 16.04
[04:58] <Triffid_Hunter> because if curl/wget work fine, you can point your finger squarely at your browsers. I've frequently had troubles with both firefox and chrome when everything else worked fine
[04:58] <Zedua> wget also cannot get it
[04:59] <Zedua> it stops at "Connecting to"
[04:59] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: does the request arrive at the server? what stage does it stall in? SYN? headers? receiving body?
[04:59] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, can I tell you the output together with the real IP in a private message?
[04:59] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: ok so it's dropping your outgoing SYN apparently, or possibly dropping the returning SYN/ACK.. check the server's firewall for incoming/outgoing messages
[05:00] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: best to keep it public so everyone can help when I disappear soon, obscure the IP if you think it's sensitive
[05:00] <Triffid_Hunter> brb
[05:01] <Zedua> https://dpaste.de/JK5O/raw
[05:01] <Zedua> if you need the real IP, I can give it to you
[05:04] <Zedua> and I just tried ssh => works
[05:04] <Zedua> ftp => also works
[05:04] <Zedua> the only problem seems to be port 80
[05:04] <Zedua> but as I said, everyone else can reach it
[05:04] <Zedua> why does my own server hate me?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Zedua: nmap yourself, to check open/blocked ports
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Zedua: nmap -PN -sV your-ip-here
[05:06] <Zedua> lotuspsychje, can I do this from my own computer?
[05:06] <Zedua> or from the server to my pc?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> Zedua: you can scan both ways, but i would also try external ip
[05:08] <Zedua> okay
[05:08] <Zedua> nmap is just installing
[05:08] <Zedua> thank you lotuspsychje
[05:09] <Zedua> lotuspsychje, I remember using nmap a long time ago,  but as far as I can remember it, nmap was pretty fast
[05:10] <Zedua> is it normal that nothing happens for about a minute?
[05:11] <Zedua> lotuspsychje, nmap works with 127.0.0.1
[05:11] <Zedua> but not with my public ip
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Zedua: what do you mean 'works'?
[05:11] <Zedua> https://dpaste.de/m8o2/raw
[05:12] <Zedua> I mean that I get an output
[05:12] <CHVNX> Are you trying to scan your public IP from the same IP?
[05:12] <CHVNX> And view your server from same IP, internally?
[05:12] <CHVNX> That is your problem
[05:12] <CHVNX> hostfile
[05:12] <CHVNX> Add your domain to your hostfile
[05:13] <Zedua> CHVNX, which domain shall I add to the hostfile?
[05:13] <Zedua> I am scanning my own computer
[05:13] <Zedua> my personal computer
[05:14] <Zedua> now the other nmap with the public IP finished!
[05:14] <Zedua> https://dpaste.de/QGp6/raw
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Zedua: filtered= firewalled are router block
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Zedua: ports are not open
[05:17] <Zedua> what ports do I need open?
[05:17] <Zedua> I am scanning my PC
[05:17] <Zedua> why would my PC need an open port?
[05:17] <Zedua> please note: I can open every other website
[05:22] <Zedua> brb
[05:23] <Zedua> re
[05:30] <Zedua> re
[05:30] <Zedua> daMaestro
[05:31] <Zedua> the problem just became bigger (than what I explained you in #apache)
[05:31] <Zedua> reconnecting does not give me a new IP address
[05:31] <daMaestro> Zedua, so you've already explained what you have in #httpd. do the same here.
[05:31] <Zedua> so I cannot login to my server
[05:31] <Zedua> which means this is a dead end
[05:34] <daMaestro> what did you do before you could not login to your server?
[05:36] <Zedua> daMaestro, I worked normally?
[05:36] <Zedua> and sometimes I had connection problems to the server
[05:37] <Zedua> I would like to restart my router a couple more times, hoping to get a new ip
[05:37] <Zedua> brb
[05:38] <Zedua> daMaestro, got a new IP!!
[05:38] <Zedua> I am logged in via SSH
[05:38] <Zedua> what now?
[05:39] <abiQuinn> hey guys Kubuntu 17.04 here, I seem to have no notification sounds and if I try to move notifications from 0% volume it automatically goes back to muted
[05:40] <daMaestro> Zedua, what protections do you have on the node?
[05:41] <Zedua> daMaestro, I forgot what I did back then... I followed some tutorial and entered some command
[05:42] <Zedua> daMaestro, I only know, that I lock myself out after the 2nd attempt
[05:43] <Zedua> daMaestro, found it in "history"
[05:43] <Zedua> fail2ban
[05:45] <Zedua> is it possible that fail2ban causes that?
[05:45] <wedgie> that's its job
[05:46] <wedgie> I would check the config and set itnto something a little less extreme
[05:47] <daMaestro> or... bring you identity with you via ssh-agent or krb tickets
[05:48] <daMaestro> Zedua, sounds like you are either using a shared or commonly known username or you need to lock down via a different mech
[05:50] <daMaestro> Zedua, fail2ban is a decent. also look at denyhosts. however, i've locked myself out also (on a timer)
[05:50] <Zedua> I am going to post my fain2ban config
[05:50] <daMaestro> use a pastebin
[05:51] <daMaestro> i don't see one in the /topic so use fpaste.org or something else without ads
[05:51] <daMaestro> sigh... there it is, paste.ununtu.com
[05:51] <Zedua> https://dpaste.de/qjNQ/raw
[05:51] <daMaestro> lol, well that was proper. http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:51] <Zedua> dpaste.de  is nice because you can delete your own paste
[05:52] <daMaestro> Zedua, is this default?
[05:53] <wedgie> does paste.ubuntu.com still require you to log in to get the raw version of a paste?
[05:53] <Zedua> I know that I edited the bantime and the attempts
[05:53] <Zedua> the rest should be default @ daMaestro
[05:54] <daMaestro> Zedua, do you fail to type your password often?
[05:54] <Zedua> no, never usually
[05:54] <Zedua> it just happened by accident an hour ago
[05:54] <Zedua> so this has nothing to do with the problem I described before
[05:56] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: lol you have fail2ban monitoring your http logs? that'll do it
[05:56] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, why?!
[05:56] <Zedua> is that bad?
[05:57] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: because port 80 gets incessantly hammered with 18 tons of cruft by every script kiddie hoping to make the next big botnet
[05:57] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, so what shall I do?
[05:57] <Zedua> remove httpd from the picture?
[05:57] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: it's an arms race, at least some of them will trawl the internet for usernames and use them, so your script is likely getting false positives for your username
[05:58] <Triffid_Hunter> I tried stuff like that on http ages ago and stopped doing it due to that. Try zip bombs instead if you want to annoy black hats
[05:58] <Triffid_Hunter> port 22 (SSH) gets similarly hammered, that's why I moved my ssh to a much higher port number
[05:59] <Zedua> okay, but what's the solution?
[05:59] <Zedua> shall I remove everything that refers to apache from fail2ban's config?
[05:59] <Triffid_Hunter> even then it still gets scanned occasionally, so I have a thing in my firewall that blocks anything which sends too many SYN packets to my ssh. works fine in conjunction with ControlMaster-type connections
[06:00] <Zedua> is there any tutorial for this?
[06:03] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: I'd check your fail2ban logs and see what stuff it's using to make decisions about your IP
[06:03] <Zedua> okay
[06:03] <Zedua> thank you Triffid_Hunter
[06:04] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: and once you know what it's picking up, make that more lax or alter your web service to not trigger it with legitimate normal usage
[06:04] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, could you try something for me?
[06:04] <Zedua> could you try to login via SSH 5+ times wrong?
[06:04] <Zedua> and then try to access my apache?
[06:04] <Zedua> maybe there really is a correlation
[06:05] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: sure, notice me your ip
[06:05] <Triffid_Hunter> but then why would ssh still work?
[06:05] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, I am just trying to figure all possibilities out
[06:05] <Zedua> I noticed you the IP
[06:06] <Zedua> please login at least 5 times wrong (the 6th time should lock you out
[06:06] <Zedua> and then please try to open the IP in your webbrowser (or better wget)
[06:06] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: trying wget first, get nothing
[06:07] <Triffid_Hunter> stalls on 'awaiting response'
[06:07] <Triffid_Hunter> haven't tried ssh yet
[06:07] <Zedua> interesting
[06:07] <Zedua> so this problem is not limited to me as I thought
[06:07] <Zedua> can you open the IP in your browser?
[06:07] <Triffid_Hunter> worked this time.. *shrug*
[06:07] <Zedua> see!!!
[06:07] <Zedua> I told you something was weird
[06:10] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: ssh only asked for password once then stalled out, subsequent connections refused, http still works fine
[06:11] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: https://bpaste.net/show/8dfb66b7e2ad
[06:12] <Zedua> so fail2ban does not block your connection on port 80 just because you had too many wrong login attempts on port 22
[06:13] <Triffid_Hunter> seems that way
[06:13] <Zedua> what could then be the reason?
[06:14] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: stuff in your http logs perhaps
[06:14] <Zedua> okay I check my apache log
[06:15] <Zedua> the error log contains only 2 lines
[06:15] <Zedua> the access log seems reasonable (on the first sight)
[06:16] <Triffid_Hunter> Zedua: how about fail2ban logs? surely it records when decides to block something
[06:17] <sebsebseb> looks like #ubuntu isn't as popular anymore, based on the activity of this channel
[06:17] <Zedua> sebsebseb, nah, we all moved to windows
[06:18] <sebsebseb> Zedua: I remember the when joined stuff would be way gone by now, in the irc client,  but left this on over night, and I can still scroll back to when I joined in the late evening
[06:18] <sebsebseb> with not much from now and then
[06:18] <sebsebseb> that much
[06:19] <Zedua> sebsebseb, yep, that also makes me sad.
[06:19] <Zedua> When I was a kid, IRC was very crowded
[06:19] <Zedua> nowadays, every channel is less frequented
[06:19] <sebsebseb> this particular channel used to be very active at times in the past
[06:19] <Zedua> Triffid_Hunter, there are many entries in the fail2ban log
[06:20] <sebsebseb> Zedua: why do you think channels are less frequent now ?
[06:21] <Zedua> sebsebseb, maybe because of the fact, that internet is less "fun" nowadays, and more and more people make their living out of IT
[06:21] <Zedua> sebsebseb, back then, people liked helping each other
[06:21] <Zedua> it was a journey
[06:21] <Zedua> now, people need help,  but who wants to support for free?
[06:21] <sebsebseb> living out of IT, by not always doing the right thing, or when should have done ?  uhmm NHS ramsomware comes to mind since from UK
[06:21] <Zedua> people seem to be more focused on work
[06:22] <sebsebseb> as for Internet being less fun,  that's the case even for me now adays really
[06:22] <sebsebseb> but I use a lot still
[06:23] <Zedua> I remember when I coded my first website
[06:23] <sebsebseb> yeah I remmber when I made my first as well
[06:23] <Zedua> it was such an amazing thing... being able to write code that becomes a website
[06:23] <Zedua> adding a picture
[06:23] <sebsebseb> indeed
[06:23] <Zedua> and uploading it via FTP (which was really cool) to geocities (!!!)
[06:23] <sebsebseb> where you from?
[06:23] <Zedua> Vienna
[06:23] <sebsebseb> oh Austria
[06:24] <Zedua> yeah, that one
[06:24] <sebsebseb> yes nice place, been skiing in schladming area a few times in the past, but that's on another side to where you are really :d
[06:24] <Zedua> you are from the UK ?
[06:24] <sebsebseb> yes
[06:24] <Zedua> nice =)
[06:24] <sebsebseb> born in Sweden though,  I can get a Swedish passpport if I really need one, might be useful with brexit coming :d
[06:25] <Zedua> LOL
[06:25] <sebsebseb> I intend to keep on going to FOSDEM as well so uhmm  that's Brussels
[06:25] <Zedua> at the beginning of the sentence I was like ... "why is he telling me that"  and the end of the sentence I was laughing so hard ;)
[06:25] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah, it's an important milestone in linux's adolescence that it's more and more seen as a necessary tool that should quietly do its job rather than a toy for curious smart folk to bang on
[06:25] <Triffid_Hunter> and I suppose this is one of the symptoms of that
[06:25] <Zedua> I believe that the Brexit won't be such a big drama for you guys
[06:26] <sebsebseb> Triffid_Hunter: I think it can still be seen as a toy
[06:26] <sebsebseb> Triffid_Hunter: but even Ubuntu is going more boring again now !  bye bye Unity ubuntu touch
[06:26] <sebsebseb> both versions of unity that is
[06:26] <Zedua> sebsebseb, the UK will find totally new trade partners,  the USA already showed genuine interest,  so does China, and so on
[06:27] <sebsebseb> back to GNOME  interface by default, times have moved on it's GNOME 3 Gnome shell now.
[06:27] <sebsebseb> Zedua: need a good enough EU deal really though
[06:27] <sebsebseb> which is the whole thing as well
[06:27] <Triffid_Hunter> sebsebseb: heh the closest I can stand being to ubuntu is my GF's laptop which runs Mint.. I only come here for the interesting weird networking questions ;)
[06:27] <sebsebseb> Zedua: I think Germany want a nice deal with the UK, but they have to do things via the EU so uhmm
[06:27] <Zedua> I'd like to mention my very, very favourite desktop manager:   Trinity Desktop!
[06:27] <sebsebseb> yes Trinity did try to do that before kde 3 fork
[06:27] <sebsebseb> didn't get so far,  but was about four years ago
[06:27] <Triffid_Hunter> and the occasional bit of help navigating ubuntu's weirdness, as I'm familiar with Gentoo and it runs very differently on many levels
[06:28] <Zedua> sebsebseb, I am currently on trinity desktop
[06:28] <Zedua> and it is amazing
[06:28] <Zedua> more than ever
[06:28] <sebsebseb> Zedua: in Ubuntu ?
[06:28] <Zedua> yes
[06:28] <Zedua> these guys really rock
[06:28] <sebsebseb> Triffid_Hunter: indeed if wanting to "help" people this is a good place
[06:28] <Triffid_Hunter> could never handle gnome.. I have kde on my desktop, and xfce isn't bad too
[06:28] <sebsebseb> Triffid_Hunter: or uh usauly
[06:28] <sebsebseb> or used to be,  that was the beignign of our discussion, its not so active around here anymore
[06:29] <Triffid_Hunter> heh maybe folks are spending more time on stack overflow and quora and similar rather than IRC which is really showing its age compared to stuff like slack and suchforth
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Zedua: with a 17.04 base ? for trinity ?
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Triffid_Hunter: yes I read about like one or two IRC alternatives !
[06:29] <Zedua> sebsebseb, well I am on Xenial
[06:29] <sebsebseb> so 16.04
[06:30] <sebsebseb> ok
[06:30] <Zedua> sebsebseb, but yes it would also work on 17.04
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Zedua: you installed trinity from a ppa ?
[06:30] <Zedua> yes
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Zedua: I tried installling from a ppa  like four to three yearrrs ago or something, but didn't work well with KDE  4 programs there as well, or it just replaced them really, and the interface never loaded up right and stuff like that to
[06:30] <Zedua> sebsebseb, https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/UbuntuInstall#For_Zesty_.28Ubuntu_17.04.29
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Zedua: it works nicely even with KDE 5 installed now ?
[06:30] <Zedua> yes
[06:31] <sebsebseb> oh
[06:31] <Zedua> now it really works nice
[06:31] <sebsebseb> or an old kde  4 on something
[06:31] <Zedua> even the network manager is working now
[06:31] <sebsebseb> I think Kubuntu moved on to KDE 5 in uhmm what 16.04 ?
[06:31] <Zedua> dunno
[06:31] <sebsebseb> ok looks like something to vm try then
[06:31] <sebsebseb> I did like kde 3 though, but stil preferd GNOME 2 at the time
[06:31] <Zedua> yes
[06:32] <sebsebseb> kde 4 was a bit uh
[06:32] <sebsebseb> and kde 5 isn't so great from what i seen
[06:32] <Zedua> KDE 4 is a whole different project
[06:32] <Zedua> they shouldn't have named it KDE
[06:32] <Zedua> the whole code base was rewritten
[06:34] <sebsebseb> well yeah
[06:37] <Triffid_Hunter> I'm on kde4 right now, I quite like it and am kinda dreading having to go to 5 at some point
[06:37] <Zedua> if KDE would only change 2 little things I would accept it
[06:38] <sebsebseb> Triffid_Hunter: Zedua yeah used to be able to come here, and help quite a few people when bored, now not soo much it seems
[06:38] <Zedua> 1) the auto-completion has to work like in kde 3  (the so-called "krunner" [ALT+F2])
[06:38] <sebsebseb> Triffid_Hunter: kde 4 in what distro ? and verison ?
[06:39] <Zedua> 2) the minimized windows should not re-order themselves when the taskbars 2-rows-layout is being forced
[06:42] <sebsebseb> Zedua:  oh
[07:01] <kaylie> hello?
[07:02] <kaylie> need some halp
[07:02] <kaylie> ;-;
[07:07] <abiQuinn> kubuntu 17.04 my controller gets removed when I start steam, screenshot of udevadm monitor http://i.imgur.com/XrzMpYV.png
[07:07] <elky> kaylie: with what? explain the problem and people will respond if they're around and can help
[07:15] <abiQuinn> ok I fixed the issue with steam kinda
[07:17] <abiQuinn> im going to start from the beginning, I am trying to get a ps4 controller to work with steam on kubuntu 17.04, the system settings > input devices pick it up and its inputs but steam doesn't.
[07:25] <cheesybiscuits> Hi All
[07:25] <cheesybiscuits> Is anybody here really good with Rsync?
[07:26] <cfhowlett> cheesybiscuits, try #rsync
[07:27] <abiQuinn> can I get help installing ds4drv for kubuntu17.04 I have no idea what im doing
[07:30] <kelvinella> How to install Acestream?
[07:30] <cheesybiscuits> thanks cfhowlett :)
[07:30] <cfhowlett> happy2help! cheesybiscuits
[07:34] <AbiQuinn> need help installing ds4drv for kubuntu 17.04 pleeeeeeeease
[07:47] <talonz> AbiQuinn, not a ubuntu user but something along the lines of sudo apt install python-dev then sudo pip install ds4drv ?
[07:48] <talonz> thats assuming you have pip which can be installed with python-pip ?
[07:49] <AbiQuinn> thankyou talonz I didn't know I could just apt install the dependencies
[07:49] <AbiQuinn> i truly have no clue what im doing
[07:50] <talonz> i would suggest maybe getting on youtube and searching in there for some video tutorials makes life easier
[07:51] <talonz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8PFwXfDSk0
[07:52] <AbiQuinn> talonz: it's suggesting sudo -H what does that do?
[07:53] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: man sudo will tell you
[07:53] <AbiQuinn> ok
[07:53] <talonz> or sudo -h will also help
[07:57] <ubuntuer> Hello
[07:58] <ubuntuer> Had to register to get in :ap
[07:58] <ubuntuer> :P
[08:01] <benny-innofaith> You know how you have a template folder and anything in it will be available in the r-click context menu for creating new files?
[08:01] <benny-innofaith> I think it would be great if this also existed for folders.
[08:01] <OlofL> Hello I need help getting a USB wifi card working. Ubuntu 17 sees two wifi, but cannot join any ssid (it tries to connect).
[08:04] <ubuntuer> Oh that's a bug
[08:05] <ubuntuer> You need to edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[08:11] <RJ45> Has an absolute idiot ever came here fuming mad, proclaiming 'you made me install this shit!, all my data is gone!, I want my Winders back!' ?
[08:12] <RJ45> just wondering
[08:13] <cfhowlett> ubuntu has no protections against operator headspace errors.
[08:14] <Triffid_Hunter> RJ45: oh sure, happened more often years ago though.. irc seems to be rather less popular these days ;)
[08:14] <cfhowlett> well that and rants are directed to other venues.
[08:16] <RJ45> Triffid_Hunter: good, but IRC is still popular with is 'real techies'
[08:16] <RJ45> keeps the normies out :)
[08:16] <Triffid_Hunter> heh seems that way ;)
[08:16] <RJ45> niiice
[08:16] <RJ45> sekrit klub :^)
[08:17] <sary> OlofL: you could run: tail -f /var/log/syslog ,and then try to connect to your SSID , see what error or status it throughs. in a different terminal window  run: dmesg ..  also run lsusb, and look for words like "wireless" to find your card and driver in use.
[08:19] <AbiQuinn> how do I take a file from github? i'm literally reading the contents of the file I want right now
[08:19] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: right-click 'raw' (near top right) and 'save as..'
[08:20] <AbiQuinn> thank you Triffid_Hunter
[08:20] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: either that or copy raw link and feed to wget or similar
[08:30] <AbiQuinn> okay guys I think im starting to work this puzzle out but I really need help now
[08:31] <AbiQuinn> I think when I open steam my udev rule runs which adds the virtual controller from ds4drv but then it gets removed immediately afterwards
[08:31] <AbiQuinn> I think I read about this... something to do with it not being a daemon?
[08:32] <AbiQuinn> so I run ds4drv --hidraw in konsole which I think is a daemon (possibly but I really have very little clue what im on about) then the controller works with steam
[08:33] <AbiQuinn> im soooo close yet so far :(
[08:40] <despising_hatred> Hello, I'm on a LiveUSB right now, struggling to fix a Linux/GRUB installation on my hard drive (/dev/sdb) and I'm kinda lost, everytime I try to run the command "fdisk -l", the terminal shows me the partitions in the hard drive /dev/sda then it just hangs in there. I can't run fsck/gparted/boot-repair either, because both of the programs just get stuck. Booting into /dev/sdb only leads me to grub rescue.
[08:42] <threedaymonk> A few days ago, I upgraded the distro on my laptop (encrypted volume: LVM on an encrypted partition on sda5) and ended up with something that wouldn't boot beyond an initramfs prompt with cryptsetup available but no /dev/sda*. After a day of ultimately unsuccessful fiddling, with help from here, I gave up, wiped the disk, and reinstalled Lubuntu 17.04 from scratch. And … it did the same thing!
[08:43] <threedaymonk> So then I thought, perhaps it's the old SSD on its way out, so I put in a new SSD, installed from scratch, and … it still won't boot! This time, /sda* appear, but there's no cryptsetup in the initramfs image.
[08:43] <threedaymonk> Now I'm wondering whether, given the hoops required to install with full disk encryption from the Lubuntu installer (manually install lvm2 and run swapoff -a beforehand), it's just completely untested, and doesn't work!
[08:44] <threedaymonk> Has anyone successfully booted a freshly-installed encrypted Lubuntu 17.10? How about the Ubuntu flavour?
[08:45] <threedaymonk> er, s/17.10/17.04/
[08:55] <OlofL> threedaymonk: did you set a passphrase?
[08:55] <OlofL> threedaymonk: I had some problems that it hung during boot (press escape to see where), but it loaded after a minute or two
[08:56] <OlofL> threedaymonk: I found a command to set/change the encrypted homedir, then it helped
[08:56] <threedaymonk> OlofL: I did set a passphrase. This is an encrypted partition, though, not just home directory
[09:00] <ouroumov> threedaymonk, where does it hang? Before the password prompt?
[09:01] <threedaymonk> ouroumov: it shows the graphical splash, but never gets to the password prompt. Eventually, it times out and dumps me into the initramfs prompt
[09:02] <threedaymonk> I just tried chrooting from a live USB and running update-initramfs and update-grub2, and it's still the same
[09:03] <threedaymonk> ooh, really weird now: in the new initramfs I have a cryptroot-unlock command
[09:03] <threedaymonk> If I run it, it repeats "ps: invalid option -- 'e'" about a thousand times
[09:04] <threedaymonk> but I don't have cryptsetup
[09:10] <AbiQuinn> okay, may have my ps4 controller working now but it shows as player 2, is there a way to manage devices in ubuntu like disable a device or set one to be default?
[09:10] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: you can xinput --disable "name of things" to turn input devices off
[09:11] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: xinput list for a list
[09:11] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: I turn off my laptop's clitoris with that because it randomly drifts
[09:12] <AbiQuinn> xD clitoris... I forgot people called em that
[09:12] <Triffid_Hunter> what, there's another name?
[09:13] <AbiQuinn> I don't know what the other name is but no way is clitoris the technical term for it
[09:14] <AbiQuinn> xinput list doesn't show the device im looking for
[09:15] <Triffid_Hunter> well it calls itself "DualPoint Stick" but that's about as descriptive as the colour of dirt
[09:15] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: may have to go poke around in /sys then
[09:16] <AbiQuinn> :L
[09:16] <AbiQuinn> I do not have the knowledge to be poking around in /sys
[09:17] <Ben64> AbiQuinn: so you've been here for a couple days now, whats up
[09:17] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: https://bpaste.net/show/acebd8e45711 is basically what my xinput stuff looks like
[09:18] <Triffid_Hunter> automash is a little program I wrote which issues mouseclicks at ludicrous speed when you hold down some (configurable) button.. got it set to one of my mouse's extra buttons on this system, and insert key on my GF's laptop
[09:19] <Jonii> How do I increase mouse sens in Ubuntu 17.04?
[09:19] <Jonii> The slider in the settings does absolutely nothing
[09:20] <Ben64> Jonii: try 'xset m 4 8'
[09:20] <AbiQuinn> Ben64: not much im really new to linux I have eveything I need working or sort of working except rocket league is picking up my virtual controller made by ds4drv as player 2
[09:21] <Ben64> AbiQuinn: ok but why use ds4drv
[09:21] <AbiQuinn> because its a ps4 controller and I don't know any better?
[09:21] <AbiQuinn> Ben64: ^
[09:21] <Jonii> ben64, i don't think it did anything
[09:22] <Ben64> Jonii: try playing around with the numbers? i'm about to try on my laptop with it
[09:22] <Jonii> I believe I used this guide to disable mouse acceleration: http://errorfixer.co/disable-mouse-acceleration-ubuntu-16-04/
[09:22] <Ben64> AbiQuinn: it works fine on my system without doing anything special
[09:22] <Ben64> Jonii: well that might affect it
[09:22] <Jonii> That's the only thing I've done to my mouse settings that I think could have any effect on this. I also upgraded from 16.10 to 17.04
[09:23] <Jonii> It worked fine in 16.10
[09:23] <AbiQuinn> Ben64: hmm mine works in system settings > input devices fine but once I get into steam I have nothing
[09:23] <Ben64> AbiQuinn: i never had it hooked up before, just connected my ds4, loaded up steam and it 'just worked'
[09:24] <Ben64> Jonii: well if you wanted to change accel why diable accel?
[09:24] <AbiQuinn> Ben64: via USB or BT ?
[09:24] <Ben64> usb
[09:24] <Jonii> ben64, I want to change mouse sensitivity, I don't want any acceleration at all
[09:24] <AbiQuinn> hmm same Ben64 the only difference I can think of now is that mine is a custom ds4 but I'd doubt that'd make a difference when it works in kubuntu fine
[09:32] <AbiQuinn> Ben64: nope it just does not recognise it without something like ds4drv
[09:34] <Thyriaen> if i use a live usb ubuntu will i have access to stuff like dmesg fdisk and apt to install additional software so i can flash a image to a SSD ?
[09:35] <Ben64> Thyriaen: yep
[09:35] <AbiQuinn> I dont really get it Ben64 maybe it does see it... because when ds4drv creates /js1 steam sees that as player 2 meaning it must see /js0 too but steam says no controllers detected in big picture mode :L
[09:35] <Thyriaen> Ben64: thanks ben
[09:36] <Jonii> Okay, arch wiki suggests that I use xset instead of editing xorg.conf
[09:36] <Jonii> How do I reverse xorg.conf changes? I don't have original ones saved anywhere
[09:36] <Thyriaen> Ben64: do i simply use the normal ubuntu install and select it from the boot option or is there something more appropriate ?
[09:37] <Ben64> Thyriaen: if you want to install yeah
[09:37] <Thyriaen> Ben64: i dont want to install - just want to run a live USB stick
[09:38] <Ben64> ok then when it says install or try, hit "try ubuntu"
[09:38] <Ben64> AbiQuinn: yeah, i just plugged in the ds4, hit big picture and everything works
[09:38] <Ben64> AbiQuinn: what version of ubuntu are you on
[09:39] <AbiQuinn> is there a way I can disable /js0? and kubuntu 17.04
[09:39] <Ben64> AbiQuinn: ls -l /dev/input/js0
[09:40] <AbiQuinn> Ben64: output: crw-rw-r--+ 1 root input 13, 0 Jul  7 10:31 /dev/input/js0
[09:42] <Jonii> Okay, I have no idea
[09:42] <Jonii> Arch wiki later says the way I did it was the correct way
[09:42] <Jonii> Disabling mouse acceleration, that is. But that doesn't help me in changing mouse speed
[09:43] <Ben64> AbiQuinn: uh, sudo rm /dev/input/js0 ?
[09:44] <Ben64> Jonii: google brought me here https://askubuntu.com/questions/172972/configure-mouse-speed-not-pointer-acceleration
[09:47] <AbiQuinn> Ben64: that works in that it did remove /js0 but still the game saw /js1 as player 2... Im gonna try and look into it from the game side of things, see if I change it there to recognise as player1
[09:50] <Jonii> Ben64: I don't have that property(accel_const_deceleration or whatnot) on my mouse. Actually, my mouse appears as two separate xinput entries :3
[09:56] <Jonii> Ah, got it
[09:56] <Jonii> xinput set-prop 'mouse acceleration' 0.7
[09:59] <hehehe> hi
[09:59] <hehehe> tar cvpzf put_your_name_here.tar.gz .
[09:59] <hehehe> would it backup reversively?
[10:00] <hehehe> including . files
[10:01] <Triffid_Hunter> hehehe:      --recursion recurse into directories (default) <-- yep
[10:01] <AbiQuinn> if I sudo nano a file that doesn't exist does it create one?
[10:02] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: nano will create it when you save
[10:02] <AbiQuinn> thanks bud
[10:02] <hehehe> yep
[10:02] <hehehe> Triffid_Hunter: any idea about tar?
[10:02] <Triffid_Hunter> hehehe: that's direct from tar's manual
[10:04] <hehehe> the line I pasted?
[10:05] <Triffid_Hunter> hehehe: the line I pasted
[10:08] <hehehe> fck it :D
[10:08] <hehehe> ty
[10:08] <hehehe> Triffid_Hunter:  I dont see which option is there for recurse
[10:08] <hehehe> tar cvpzf put_your_name_here.tar.gz . c- create f p- files p - permissions
[10:09] <hehehe> z is gzip I think
[10:09] <hehehe> v is verbose
[10:09] <Triffid_Hunter> hehehe: "default" means you don't need an option for recursion - you need an option to *not* recurse
[10:17] <Seppoz> hi guys so for some reason as soon as i log into ubuntu 16LTS i get logged out right away
[10:18] <Seppoz> https://pastebin.com/wcxNzyNi
[10:18] <Seppoz> this is my xserver log
[10:18] <Seppoz> do you guys see any issue there
[10:26] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:29] <Triffid_Hunter> Seppoz: if you get logged out straight away, your session is crashing. check ~/.xsession-errors (at least that's where the user session log is on my system)
[10:34] <AbiQuinn> I need to make /js1 be /js0 but /js0 is always the first controller plugged in and that controller needs to be plugged in to make /js1
[10:34] <AbiQuinn> :L
[10:39] <Triffid_Hunter> AbiQuinn: can you just rename them?
[10:40] <AbiQuinn> turns out... rocket league doesn't use the /jso and /js1 it uses the event...
[10:40] <live150> I have the following issue: a program told to close using the GUI closes the GUI side, but top still lists it pid. Is there a way to fix this (trying to code up a script to grab the pid of the program then run the kill command on the value of the pid).
[10:44] <AbiQuinn> okay, I need to be launching steam with some variables... anyone wanna try and help me with this?
[10:45] <bazhang> !steam | AbiQuinn
[10:45] <bazhang> AbiQuinn, thats the channel for it^
[10:46] <Triffid_Hunter> live150: killall programname
[10:46] <live150> thank you. :D
[10:46] <Triffid_Hunter> live150: killall -9 programname if it still won't die ;)
[10:47] <Triffid_Hunter> live150: and if -9 doesn't fix it, one of your hard disks has crashed or something like that
[10:47] <live150> :D
[10:47] <live150> thanks
[10:54] <abiQuinn> sorry guys my internet timed out
[10:55] <TheSuperGeek> hi
[10:56] <TheSuperGeek> i'm using windows and i've got Xubuntu in a VM
[10:56] <TheSuperGeek> i want to know if it's possible to use integrated mode ?
[10:57] <ljetibo> Hello, just before the ubuntu login screen appears I see a message splash, I could spot out acpi error something (all the keys work though, I've manually installed the newest stable kernel which got them working) but I can't manage to read the whole message. The messages aren't in the boot.log or dmesg. What file should I check to see these msgs?
[10:58] <Thyriaen> is it normal that it takes over 10 minutes to unxz an iso.xz into an 8gb big iso ?
[10:59] <abiQuinn> I need to run steam with "SDL_JOYSTICK_DEVICE=/dev/input/event20" but change /dev/input/event20 to be /sys/devices/virtual/input/inputXX/eventXX where XX is whatever number is present as there will be only one inputXX and eventXX in those directories
[11:00] <Triffid_Hunter> TheSuperGeek: if you replace the window manager with one that supports your VM's integrated mode, sure.. I haven't heard of such a thing existing though
[11:00] <TheSuperGeek> Triffid_Hunter, i think i can't replace windows' window manager
[11:01] <Triffid_Hunter> TheSuperGeek: the linux window manager..
[11:01] <Triffid_Hunter> TheSuperGeek: that's what's inside your VM
[11:01] <TheSuperGeek> Triffid_Hunter, xfce
[11:02] <Triffid_Hunter> TheSuperGeek: that's nice, so find out if your VM provides a WM which supports its integrated mode
[11:02] <TheSuperGeek> i don't know....
[11:03] <Triffid_Hunter> there would be no need to find out if you knew already
[11:04] <adroit_machine> Hi, is there an automatic way to stop wallpaper slideshow when on battery? my operating system is ubuntu 16.04 kde
[11:13] <Nilesh_> hi, after installing nvidia drivers from .run ..im unable to login, Tried deleting Xauthrity and blacklisting nouvea didnt help ... anyclue?
[11:13] <jdrab> Hi, i have a weird problem on 16.04.2. From time to time my primary network interface will loose the IP address.
[11:14] <jdrab> last time it was cca @13:06 and this is the journalctl output http://paste.ubuntu.com/25038712/
[11:14] <abiQuinn> Nilesh_: only because im dumb and did this myself but did you reboot after installing nvidia drivers? I didn't and everything stopped working but after rebooting it was fine
[11:15] <Nilesh_> several times o rebooted
[11:15] <jdrab> around that time there is only avahi-daemon but i think it's not "his" fault, since he is only changing his internal state (info from stackexchange)
[11:15] <abiQuinn> Nilesh_: I can't help you then, as I've only used linux for 2 days xD hopefully someone else around here can :)
[11:15] <jdrab> i had to restart network-manager to get my ip back :/
[11:16] <Nilesh_> anyways thanks :) abiQuinn
[11:16] <jdrab> Nilesh_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[11:28] <abiQuinn> creating a symlink might be one way but I don't know how
[11:31] <jdrab> ljetibo: try journalctl -b
[11:31] <glitsj16> Nilesh_: any specific reason why you chose to install the nvidia blob instead of using the repo packages?
[11:32] <Nilesh_> torch package for our AI experinment installs that specific .run nvidia
[11:32] <Nilesh_> glitsj16: ^^
[11:33] <Nilesh_> I mean  we have been told to install that specific driver for a specific torch(deep learning frame work lib) for our experinments
[11:33] <glitsj16> Nilesh_: i see, well, what does your Xorg.0.log tells you?
[11:39] <Nilesh_> http://imgur.com/a/vrAd8
[11:39] <Nilesh_> glitsj16:
[11:40] <ljetibo> jdrab: thnx, I kind of got bored of googling so I jut took a picture doing boot with my phone
[11:41] <jdrab> ljetibo: :hey, if that works for you :D
[11:43] <glitsj16> Nilesh_: it might be more helpful if you could show the channel the full log, there's not much to go on with that image.. do you have pastebinit installed?
[12:07] <beefjoe> guys how to remove this http://i.imgur.com/M2aby5z.png when the window is maximized
[12:07] <beefjoe> the title in the top status bar
[12:12] <Dunga> beefjoe: Take a look at http://yourbusiness.azcentral.com/hiding-tab-names-firefox-9769.html. Guy has some good ideas
[12:14] <beefjoe> Dunga, but this is firefox only..I'm looking to keep the title hidden when a window is maximized regardless of the app
[12:18] <beefjoe> Dunga nevermind I got it..there's an option in settings->appearance->Menus Visibility->Always displayed
[12:19] <Dunga> beefjoe: I got sidetracked sorry. I am happy you got yourself sorted
[12:19] <beefjoe> Thanks :)
[12:38] <AbiQuinn> minimec: are you around?
[12:40] <zetheroo> Does anyone know of some photo slideshow video maker that actually works in Ubuntu?
[12:41] <zetheroo> Seems like anything that simple enough to use without becoming a video-editing professional ends up crashing and freezing
[12:43] <zetheroo> I have actually been trying to find something like this for years ... and while Android is teaming with Apps which perform this task and a whole lot more, it seems that for desktop Linux there's just nothing
[12:51] <zetheroo> where are the configs for the dash shortcuts located?
[12:53] <tim167> hello, can anyone suggest a better quality text-to-speech engine? the best I found so far is "pico2wave", but I think there should be better voices out there... thanks
[12:54] <mcphail> tim167: you can use flite with a selection of voices, but all are a bit robotic
[12:56] <glitsj16> zetheroo: have you tried ffdiaporama yet?
[12:56] <tim167> mcphail, I see these youtube video's where ppl use tts voices that sound pretty convincing, no such thing achievable on ubuntu?
[12:56] <zetheroo> glitsj16: isn't that pretty old? I though development on it stopped a couple years ago.
[12:57] <mcphail> tim167: flite will get you to the quality of the blamepopey.com website. I haven't found anything better myself
[12:57] <glitsj16> zetheroo: true, but it still works just fine
[12:58] <zetheroo> glitsj16: I used it some time ago ... I'll try it again
[12:59] <mcphail> tim167: i've heard chrome and kde have quite good tts engines built in, but i haven't tried them
[13:01] <tim167> mcphail, hmm, that blamepopey.com voice is pretty awful ;) , with pico2wave I get at least somewhat better voice, more intelligible...
[13:01] <zetheroo> glitsj16: which version do you use? Seems like in 16.04 it's version 1.5 :P
[13:02] <tim167> I also noticed that on Android there's quite decent tts, but I don't know how to get it to render anything else than just some selection of google-play books...
[13:02] <mcphail> tim167: let me know if you find something good :)
[13:02] <glitsj16> zetheroo: yes, that's the one I use, well my oldest daughter (10y) does for some easy-peasy photo stuff with some music, nothing fancy
[13:02] <tim167> mcphail, will do, thanks :)
[13:02] <zetheroo> ok
[13:02] <popey> Oi!
[13:05] <glitsj16> zetheroo: it might not be what you're after, but it fitted into what you described ^ .. so I jumped at it .. worst-case wouldn't be no more complicated than purging it and look on :p
[13:05] <zetheroo> glitsj16: yeah, it seems to be made to do what I need ... just seems so archaic :D
[13:06] <glitsj16> zetheroo: that's probably because it is haha
[13:06] <zetheroo> I am going to try this https://github.com/JonasCz/ffdiaporama-1604-builds
[13:07] <glitsj16> zetheroo: wasn't aware of it having a version 2, thanks for the link
[13:08] <zetheroo> well according to the official site the latest stable was version 2.1 (2014) ... so why in 16.04 we are still stuck with version 1.5 bewilders me
[13:09] <glitsj16> zetheroo: I guess that's inherent on non-rolling distros.. I did check for a PPA version of ffdiaporama, but didn't come across anything newer than what's in the ubuntu repos
[13:12] <donofrio> so this works great tinyurl.com/ubuntuonwin10 gives me https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNmehXa4gEyHhbhGTgng what I'm wondering is how to fix this - https://apaste.info/Mxj1
[13:12] <donofrio> that dpkg error I'm stuck on
[13:20] <ducasse> !ubuwin | donofrio
[13:21] <zetheroo> glitsj16: alright, I got 2.2 installed ... loads of dependencies needed
[13:23] <glitsj16> zetheroo: qt5?
[13:24] <zetheroo> yes, and more
[13:25] <zetheroo> http://www.multimedia4linux.de/index.php/bildbearbeitung/ffdiaporama/installation-von-ffdiaporama-auf-ubuntu-16-04
[13:27] <glitsj16> i guess i'm staying on the repo version.. my daughter can use it on the desktop and I'm not exactly looking for new challenges in that department
[13:28] <zetheroo> I know what you mean
[13:28] <Avani> Hey everyone!! Can someone tell me why Ubuntu is trying to install these corrupt-named packages, and why dpkg crashes instead of handle ','s and '%'s properly when they're not supposed to be in the package names?
[13:28] <zetheroo> 2.2 doesn't look any less archaic :D
[13:28] <Avani> https://bpaste.net/show/364a23be22d6
[13:29] <Avani> Also, what can I do to resolve my messed up state of packages?
[13:30] <glitsj16> zetheroo: I'm already sorry I mentioned that old stuff :p
[13:30] <zetheroo> glitsj16: no don't be .. it's not your fault that this is all there is for Linux :P
[13:31] <ducasse> Avani: try 'sudo dpkg --audit'
[13:32] <Avani> ducasse: It gives me the same output as the last two lines of output that apt-get -f install gave me. :(
[13:33] <blastis> good morning guys
[13:34] <ducasse> Avani: you could try replacing /var/lib/dpkg/status with /var/lib/dpkg/status-old, see if that works. keep a copy, though, don't just overwrite it
[13:35] <Avani> ducasse: I tried replacing it with status.0 - but as soon as I do an apt-get install again, the same corruption shows up again
[13:36] <glitsj16> zetheroo: :) well, I haven't found anything easy enough to replace it with, not to mention the hardware specs for a full-blown video-editing suite.. for me linux is still a hobby
[13:38] <ducasse> Avani: try editing the status file and removing the ',hi' from the end of the 'Package' line
[13:38]  * Avani nods
[13:38] <Avani> ducasse: thanks! Will give that a shot and see if it works
[13:39] <zetheroo> glitsj16: the only downside I see atm with this software is how hard it is to arrange the photos ... other than that it's pretty zippy. Will see what happens when I actually want to render the vid.
[13:41] <glitsj16> zetheroo: I didn't mention before that the desktop that uses ffdiaporama is running trusty, maybe that explains why the 1.5 version still works reasonably well
[13:43] <donofrio> ducasse, it's a dpkg error....
[13:45] <ducasse> donofrio: still, the ubuwin thingy is unsupported here.
[13:47] <Avani> hi. am i still here, or did I dc/
[13:47] <Avani> ?
[13:49] <Avani> ducasse: That took quite a lot of edits to the status file lol! But it did finally work. Thankie!! :3
[13:50] <ducasse> Avani: good. i wonder what corrupted it, i've not seen that in a while.
[13:51] <Avani> ducasse: I'm guessing my vpn connection must have broken while a package fetch was happening
[13:52] <Avani> though I haven't tried to collect any data to back that up
[13:54] <ducasse> Avani: unlikely, dpkg should verify data before writing to the status file. maybe some intermittent disk/fs failure?
[13:56] <Avani> Hmm.
[13:56] <threedaymonk> Well, this is very interesting. Lubuntu 17.04, when installed with disk encryption, will never successfully boot. Ubuntu 17.04 is absolutely fine.
[13:57] <Avani> ducasse: using a local ssd with fde. though I have been suspecting disk errors lately. I should take a closer look at that
[13:58] <threedaymonk> I guess it's missing some vital packages in the base install: the disk encryption option in the installer doesn't even work without workarounds (install lvm2 and disable swap first).
[13:59] <ducasse> Avani: take a good look at the logs, in case your data is also being corrupted
[14:01] <Avani> I don't see any IO-related errors in dmesg. Trying to see where else to look in troubleshooting disk on a vm
[14:04] <ducasse> Avani: also check the logs on the host
[14:05] <Avani> Hmm. Nope. nothing there either.
[14:06] <zetheroo> glitsj16: and it crashed :D
[14:07] <ducasse> Avani: run smartctl -a on the drive(s), look for anything suspicious there. you might also want to run a self-test
[14:07] <zetheroo> 'segfault ... memory exhausted' ... LOL
[14:08] <glitsj16> O.o
[14:08] <glitsj16> zetheroo: the 2.2 version?
[14:08] <zetheroo> yes
[14:09] <zetheroo> but who knows if it's because of the version or the video render settings I chose ... actually it was rendering the audio when it crashed
[14:09] <ioria> threedaymonk, you can set luks manually in 'Something else' option (you need first a boot partition)
[14:09] <zetheroo> it's getting to the point where I might just have to buy a Mac for this purpose alone :D
[14:09] <zetheroo> pathetic really
[14:16] <glitsj16> zetheroo: indeed, I would have expected video to be more crash-prone..
[14:16] <AbiQuinn> minimec: you around?
[14:16] <threedaymonk> ioria: Maybe, but if the installer doesn't work and create a working system, I'd rather use something that does! So I installed regular Ubuntu instead.
[14:17] <AbiQuinn> anyone wanna help me create some symlinks using udev?
[14:17] <ioria> threedaymonk, ok
[14:19] <AbiQuinn> erm if im downloading something for kubuntu 17.04 do I want "deb" or "tar.gz"
[14:21] <ducasse> AbiQuinn: deb
[14:21] <AbiQuinn> thank you
[14:25] <zetheroo> glitsj16: trying again with other settings ... Lossless
[14:26] <zetheroo> crashed again
[14:26] <zetheroo> about halfway through
[14:27] <glitsj16> zetheroo: that's the spirit :p .. have fun, gotta go start preparing dinner here.. I assume you already tried openshot?
[14:27] <zetheroo> yes, been 'trying' OpenShot' for years :D
[14:27] <zetheroo> hate it to bits
[14:29] <glitsj16> kdenlive was the best I ever used, but I don't have powerfull hardware to do any real video editing, so I pretty much gave up on that
[14:29] <Avani> ducasse: heh turns out SMART self-test Log and SMART Error Log aren't supported for my disk
[14:29] <Avani> though it supports SMART and SMART is enabled
[14:30] <zetheroo> imo kdenlive is overcomplicated
[14:30] <zetheroo> what really gets me is that Android has all these cool apps ... and it's Linux-ish ... so how is it that these Apps cannot or are not ported to desktop Linux?
[14:31] <Avani> Or I may need to update the ssd's bios? Hmm
[14:32] <glitsj16> zetheroo: if I knew I wouldn't have suggested ffdiaporama to begin with, might be a #video channel that can point you to something more 21st century apps
[14:32] <zetheroo> :)
[14:32] <glitsj16> :)
[14:32] <zetheroo> no worries
[14:33] <ducasse> zetheroo: ask in #ubuntustudio
[14:33] <zetheroo> ducasse: nah ... they be like 'build it from the ground on up man' :D
[14:34] <AbiQuinn> need help creating some symlinks using udev if anyone could assist :D
[14:34] <Avani> nope. turns out that even after updating the resume my ssd prolly doesn't support self-test logging. Oh well :P
[14:34] <Avani> updating the firmware*
[14:37] <Avani> ducasse: Thanks for all the pointers though!!
[14:37] <ducasse> Avani: np. got no other suggestions i'm afraid.
[14:37]  * Avani nods
[14:39] <ducasse> AbiQuinn: see the archlinux wiki page on udev, it has examples you can use
[14:48] <bartekww> hey, how can i request software package update?
[14:48] <bartekww> on 16.04.2 nftables is too old
[14:48] <bartekww> from 2015
[14:49] <ducasse> !sru | bartekww
[14:51] <compdoc> bartekww, d/l the source and compile the newest. I think many packages are provided by volunteers
[14:55] <bumblefuzz> my computer only displays content at 24hz
[14:55] <bumblefuzz> can someone help me figure out why and maybe how to increase that to 60 or 1hz?
[14:55] <bumblefuzz> 120hz*
[14:57] <bumblefuzz> I can pastebin any commands
[14:58] <zenguy> hey :) any special instructions for installing ubuntu on an i7 X series and x299 mobo
[14:59] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know how to change the refresh rate for my monitor?
[15:00] <zenguy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/883745/install-ubuntu-linux-on-new-kaby-lake-processor nm found it
[15:01] <BluesKaj> bumblefuzz, the video framerate is determined by the codec used, if that's what you mean by 24Hz
[15:09] <PflasterMann> Hey guys, I have an issue with a udev rule. Everything seems to works perfectly, only the script that's supposed to run is not executed. Do you have any idea what could be the problem?
[15:10] <AbiQuinn> I spent 10 hours yesterday with a similar issue PflasterMann I just gave up :L
[15:11] <AbiQuinn> make sure you are using the absolute path for all the commands
[15:11] <PflasterMann> AbiQuinn: it's only 5 hours on my side so far :P
[15:11] <AbiQuinn> xD hopefully someone here can help you more PflasterMann
[15:12] <PflasterMann> AbiQuinn: Thank you for the heads up! :)
[15:12] <PflasterMann> My code is here: https://bpaste.net/show/96edcc27f2cb
[15:13] <PflasterMann> And outputs of debug commands
[15:19] <Avani> Signing out for now. Thanks y'all!
[15:25] <lamduh> unity is too heavy for my laptop to run in a virtual machine. What flavor of ubuntu should I use?
[15:26] <xangua> lamduh: xubuntu or Lubuntu
[15:26] <lamduh> thanks
[15:39] <strive> lamduh: I feel that Lubuntu is lighter than Xubuntu.
[15:41] <rvgate> strive, depends on the media you are using
[15:41] <strive> Yes, generally speaking Lubuntu has always been the lightest.
[15:42] <rvgate> strive, i guess you didnt get the joke :(
[15:43] <lamduh> yeah i read an article and it seemed to say lubuntu over xubuntu. that is what I went with.
[15:43] <lamduh> thanks
[15:43] <strive> No, I'm still sipping on coffee...lol
[15:43] <strive> lamduh: :)
[16:14] <netcrime> Hi. Anyone can suggest some app for calibrating Screen colors on Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[16:16] <tomreyn> maybe gnome-color-manager - but i never tried
[16:17] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/color.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/color.html#calibration
[16:17] <oerheks> really calibrating requires some expensive hardware..
[16:35] <hhee> guys, how can i view .iso content?
[16:35] <hhee> more handy way?
[16:36] <nacc> hhee: loopback mount it?
[16:36] <shantaram3013> hi
[16:36] <hhee> nacc, how can i do it?
[16:36] <shantaram3013> can i comfortably use ubuntu on a 64gb ssd as my primary drive?
[16:37] <oerheks> shantaram3013, sure
[16:37] <haymi_> i am using ubuntu 16.04 and  my wifi is disconnecting evry time
[16:37] <shantaram3013> what's the space a clean install takes up anyway?
[16:37] <oerheks> !iso | hhee
[16:37] <shantaram3013> minimum disk space is 5gb but i mean from the desktop iso
[16:38] <shantaram3013> haymi_: lenovo laptop?
[16:38] <oerheks> shantaram3013, something like that, 5gb, and a few gb for swap
[16:38] <hhee> oerheks, got it thx! i've never heard about -o loop option earlier :)
[16:38] <shantaram3013> awesome
[16:38] <haymi_> shantaram3013:hp laptop
[16:38] <shantaram3013> ok
[16:39] <hhee> guys, what do you think about unity removing in next version of ubuntu?
[16:39] <compdoc> shantaram3013, is pretty small, tho. They fill up easily. I stopped buying 64, and now 128G is the min. by the way, the larger it is, the longer it lasts
[16:39] <oerheks> hhee, please don't poll, this is support only
[16:39] <hhee> oerheks, got it.
[16:39] <shantaram3013> can you do "lspci" without the quotes and pastebin the output?
[16:39] <hhee> oerheks, where can i talk about?
[16:41] <oerheks> hhee, about unity? #ubuntu-discuss or -offtopic perhaps?
[16:41] <hhee> oerheks, got it, thx
[16:45] <shantaram3013> Hello
[16:45] <shantaram3013> Sorry back
[16:45] <shantaram3013> haymi_: did you Pastebin it?
[16:46] <haymi_> shantaram3013:pastebin it ? you mean?
[16:48] <shantaram3013> Well, you need to type in lspci into a terminal
[16:48] <shantaram3013> Then copy the output to a Pastebin and send the link.
[16:48] <shantaram3013> hhee:I think it's a terrible move I love unity
[16:49] <nacc> shantaram3013: as oerheks said, please discuss elsewhere (as in, if someone says discuss elsewhere, don't ignore it and discuss here because you have an opinion)
[16:49] <shantaram3013> Sorry I wasn't here when he said it
[16:50] <shantaram3013> My client disconnected because the power went out and router die
[16:50] <shantaram3013> D
[16:50] <nacc> shantaram3013: ah sorry, i just the same nick before & after
[16:50] <shantaram3013> No worries.
[16:50] <haymi> shantaram3013:am  back
[16:51] <shantaram3013> Yeah what happenes
[16:51] <shantaram3013> Happened*
[16:51] <shantaram3013> ?
[16:51] <haymi> shantaram3013: still keep disconnecting
[16:52] <shantaram3013> Send me the output. Just copy it and paste it into paste.ubuntu.com or equivalent
[16:52] <haymi> shantaram3013: which output
[16:52] <shantaram3013> Of the command 'lspci'
[16:52] <neptune> hello mhache
[16:52] <pavlos> haymi: you can try, lspci | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:53] <shantaram3013> Yes.
[16:56] <curlyears> \hiegh hough
[16:57] <curlyears> cofefe
[16:58] <laceylaney> HI guys. URXVT terminal keeps automatically placing "~" & other characters randomly. I can open it up and not touch anything and it will randomly add characters at will. Anyone here know how to stop this from happening ????
[16:58] <shantaram3013> haymi: done?
[16:59] <curlyears> laceylaney:  what is this terminal connected to?
[16:59] <oerheks> laceylaney, urxvt does not do that, flaky keyboards do..
[16:59] <curlyears> oerheks:   excellent observation, as per usual
[16:59] <laceylaney> Only happens in urxvt. Doesn't haooen in any other terminal. I have tested a good few....
[16:59] <haymi> shantaram3013:http://paste.ubuntu.com/25040415/
[17:00] <curlyears> what is "urxvt?"
[17:00] <laceylaney> URXVT is a termianl emulator similar to xfce4-terminal, terminator & gnome-terminal
[17:01] <shantaram3013> haymi: give me a minute
[17:01] <laceylaney> I just launch the terminal app like any other, only this one has this strange problem....
[17:02] <shantaram3013> also what Ubuntu version are you on?
[17:02] <curlyears> laceylaney:   sounds like some sort of problem in the external facing recievee buffer
[17:02] <laceylaney> Also doesn't matter if I open the terminal app in unity, gnome-3, xfce, openbox or i3. Same thing happens no matter what.
[17:02] <haymi> shantaram3013:16.04.1
[17:02] <laceylaney> Currently running Ubuntu 16.04 fully updated.
[17:04] <laceylaney> It's annoying because I can be in the middle of typing something such as a password & then I have to recorrect or re-enter....
[17:04] <shantaram3013> haymi: try the steps in this answer here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/455030/ralink-rt3290-wifi-driver-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04
[17:06] <laceylaney> Any ideas ??
[17:07] <shantaram3013> laceylaney: does the problem occur in other terminals?
[17:07] <laceylaney> Nope only in urxvt
[17:08] <shantaram3013> Ok, that's all I know I'm sorry
[17:09] <laceylaney> I have tried terminator, xfce4-terminal, lxterminal, gnome-terminal & xterm to name just a few. Defo only happens when using urxvt...
[17:12] <laceylaney> Thank you for the assistance :)
[17:14] <shantaram3013> You're welcome
[17:15] <energizer1> Could not load editor VPN plugin for 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.l2tp' (missing plugin file "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/NetworkManager/libnm-vpn-plugin-l2tp-editor.so").
[17:15] <energizer1> What can i do about this
[17:17] <pavlos> energizer1: https://askubuntu.com/questions/762355/xerus-missing-l2tp-plugin-for-network-manager/840306
[17:17] <laceylaney> Turns out I can install xvt terminal and tweak my current urxvt settings a little to work.
[17:19] <energizer1> pavlos: tnx
[17:24] <shantaram3013> haymi: any luck?
[17:43] <cwre> How can I prevent users from logging in if the machine has been disconnected from the domain?
[17:45] <CoderEurope> Iam trying to create/investigate a crash from here : https://askubuntu.com/questions/318791/where-do-the-system-error-reports-go
[17:45] <CoderEurope> but I cannot locate where /var/crash actually is ?
[17:46] <badet0s> does it have journalctl ?
[17:46] <badet0s> ubuntu
[17:46] <nacc> CoderEurope: what do you mean? /var/crash is a local filesystem directory
[17:46] <nacc> badet0s: are you asking if ubuntu has that command?
[17:47] <badet0s> program yes
[17:47] <nacc> badet0s: yes it does.
[17:47] <badet0s> guess he can use that to investiage his crash ?
[17:47] <CoderEurope> nacc, I am just following the link I gave you ....
[17:48] <nacc> CoderEurope: right, i dont' understand your question at all
[17:48] <CoderEurope> HOW do I gety info on a crash ?
[17:48] <CoderEurope>  hows that sound ?
[17:48] <nacc> CoderEurope: /var/crash is a directory. It will have crash info in it if a crash occurred *on the system that had the crash*
[17:48] <nacc> CoderEurope: are you trying to investigate a crash on your system?
[17:48] <CoderEurope> how do I open /var/crash ? yes - Iam looking at crashes.
[17:49] <nacc> CoderEurope: what do you mean?? it's a directory. You browse to it, or use a terminal to look in the directory (e.g. ls)
[17:49] <CoderEurope> so its lscrash in the directory, then ?
[17:49] <CoderEurope> **cli
[17:50] <nacc> CoderEurope: what is 'lscrash'?
[17:50] <nacc> CoderEurope: why are you making up commands?
[17:50] <CoderEurope> I dont know to even GET TO  the damn crash folder - how do I do this ?
[17:50] <nacc> CoderEurope: either `cd /var/crash; ls` or `ls /var/crash`
[17:50] <nacc> CoderEurope: you don't know how to navigate directories from the terminal?
[17:51] <CoderEurope> no
[17:51] <nacc> CoderEurope: `cd <dir>`
[17:52] <nacc> CoderEurope: or just use nautilus or whatever
[17:52] <laceylaney> Just a heads up guys.... My problem with urxvt was caused by Ubuntu Mono font. I installed Terminus font and switched my settings to use that instead and for some reason my problem is no more :)
[17:52] <CoderEurope> nacc, that command PRODUCES NOTHING : https://paste.ubuntu.com/25040700/
[17:53] <nacc> CoderEurope: then you may not have crash support
[17:53] <CoderEurope> OKAY, THANKS.
[17:53] <CoderEurope> soz for caps
[17:54] <cwre> How can I prevent users from logging in if the machine has been disconnected from the domain?
[17:55] <trollkarlen1> hello again
[18:03] <pavlos> cwre: touch /etc/nologin ... you add some text in there like, "logins will be restored at 1600 UTC"
[18:05] <cwre> But how can one do that to several workstations at once?
[18:09] <oerheks> anybody has got the /var/crash/ folder
[18:10] <nacc> CoderEurope: hrm, that dir should always exist as oerheks said
[18:10] <nacc> CoderEurope: it's there by default, afaik
[18:11] <nacc> cwre: you'd need to use some configuration management tool, probably
[18:11] <nacc> cwre: alternatively, if the authentication backend uses the domain, then if the domain is disconnected, i'd expect auth to fail
[18:11] <oerheks> cd / && cd /var/crash/ && ls
[18:12] <cwre> nacc: mmm, okay.
[18:12] <Katronix> hi all, trying to install gitian on ubuntu. Anyone here familiar with it? Having issues with dpkg
[18:12] <cwre> That's what I was thinking...
[18:13] <oerheks> Katronix, it is not in our repos, so show us the howto ?
[18:14] <Katronix> oerheks https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder
[18:16] <Katronix> oerheks here is what I get while trying make it work http://paste.ubuntu.com/25040845/
[18:16] <theta8> I'm reading through the internetworking section of the gnu awk manual and they mention this special file "/inet/tcp", I'm running xubuntu
[18:16] <theta8> 16.04 is there an equivalent special file?
[18:17] <nacc> theta8: that's an awk special file
[18:17] <sp4rc> guys, i am running ubuntu 16.04.2 lts and i am trying to pair my samsung keyboard via bluetooth
[18:17] <nacc> theta8: as in, it doens't have anything to do with the host system as a real file
[18:17] <sp4rc> the whole connection process works (devices shows as connected) unfortunately i cant use the keyboard
[18:17] <theta8> thanks nacc
[18:18] <oerheks> Katronix, line 56: W: --force-yes is deprecated, use one of the options starting with --allow instead. ...
[18:18] <sp4rc> also 'bt-device -l' shows the device as connected
[18:18] <nacc> theta8: np
[18:18] <oerheks> Katronix, not really an up2date buildscript, is it?
[18:18] <nacc> Katronix: what awas the command you ran?
[18:19] <nacc> Katronix: it would appear you have local modifcations to /etc/sudoers and perhaps tried to force it, which isn't recommended at all
[18:19] <Katronix> oerheks no its not
[18:19] <Katronix> nacc sudo bin/make-base-vm is the command I tried to use
[18:21] <nacc> Katronix: oh, that's not an ubuntu issue, per se
[18:21] <nacc> Katronix: that's a gitian issue
[18:21] <Katronix> nacc my /etc/sudoers doesn't have any --force-yes
[18:21] <Katronix> nacc yes I know, but there doesn't seem to be a gitian channel :(
[18:21] <nacc> Katronix: they have a github, ask there
[18:22] <nacc> Katronix: no, --force-yes was passed to apt
[18:22] <nacc> Katronix: and there is some change to /etc/sudoers
[18:22] <nacc> Katronix: if i had to guess, this is the same as the issue in LP: #1618899
[18:25] <Katronix> nacc I see you were quoted on a portion of the issue :)
[18:25] <nacc> Katronix: yeah, it felt familiar
[18:28] <Katronix> nacc so reading further down, the issue seems to be with sudoers.tmpl is that correct? if so is there an updated version? Or is this version of Ubuntu just to new for the script?
[18:31] <nacc> Katronix: you can just (probably) do what the vmbuilder_sudo.patch does, but to the gitian source
[18:31] <nacc> Katronix: i really don't know, i haven't looked at it in a while
[18:59] <lifeforms> hi all, I have a Qt binary which dynamically loads libssl.so at runtime, but my (Ondrej) Apache2 has updated its OpenSSL version so that my /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so is now a symlink to libssl.so.1.1. it works great with libssl.so.1.0.2, but that's not the default anymore. is there an official way to switch that libssl.so symlink to the 1.0.2 release?
[19:00] <lifeforms> hmmm I could also copy the 1.0.2 library somewhere else and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[19:08] <Halleluia> minimec
[19:08] <Halleluia> abiQuinn
[19:21] <JustTheDoctor> is it possible to setup a VPS server with a VNC using xfce4 that will allow me to run multiple vnc servers for multiple users with no conflick? example: machine1 has users user1 and user2 i run vncserver :1 for user1 and vncserver :2 for user2, they can both login even at the same time, but they have there own accounts and cant mess with eachothers files.
[19:31] <Simpsonboy77> Hello. I was looking into making a live CD that boots directly to a desktop style GUI. I'd like it to skip the prompt asking if you want to try or install ubuntu and just assume try. Is that possible? If so how would I go about doing that?
[19:35] <ioria> Simpsonboy77, never tried, but https://askubuntu.com/questions/47522/how-to-bypass-try-it-install-screen-when-booting-from-usb-live-session-wit
[19:36] <Simpsonboy77> Thanks ioria, going to reading  that
[19:38] <Simpsonboy77> That's exactly what I needed, thanks
[19:39] <ioria> Simpsonboy77 good luck
[19:41] <TheNH813> Hey, I gotta question about my DVD burner. Dosen't matter whether I use ImgBurn in Wine, Brasero or other applications it just won't burn anything right.
[19:42] <TheNH813> It reads disks fine, which makes me think it's not burning the disks with enough power. The bottom of th edisk looks "splotchy" where it's been burned.
[19:42] <TheNH813> And I had a external 5A supply plugged into the burner, so that's not the issue.
[19:42] <TheNH813> What do you think, software problem, or weak laser.
[19:44] <c|oneman> where can I see a log for why I get logged out shortly after logging in to gdm/gnome
[19:45] <ioria> TheNH813, what are you burning ?
[19:45] <TheNH813> Data disks
[19:46] <ioria> TheNH813, i'd try the device with just files... to see if it works ...
[19:47] <TheNH813> Do you mean burn a single file?
[19:47] <ioria> TheNH813,  more then one,  maybe
[19:47] <ioria> *than
[19:48] <TheNH813> Will do.
[19:48] <TheNH813> By the way, where is the burn button in Thunar? I tried finding it but went to use other software instead then.
[19:57] <jaydemir> all programs installed via apt/get are installed to the root directory right?
[19:58] <TheNH813> Yes
[19:58] <jaydemir> I have a slow HDD I want to use as home, but a faster USB 3 drive I want to use as root
[19:58] <jaydemir> cheaper than an SSD since I just need the HDD for archival purposes
[19:58] <TheNH813> Well then you'd have to install Ubuntu to that drive and set the other to mount as /home
[19:58] <TheNH813> During the install process
[19:59] <jaydemir> Makes sense. Just want the programs and OS loading faster is all
[19:59] <TheNH813> I did that back when I had only a 60GB drive in my PC years and years ago
[19:59] <jaydemir> sounds good. I have a 32GB flash drive. That should be more than enough for just the OS right
[20:00] <TheNH813> Yes. Flash drives will wear out quicker running an OS though, but it will work fine.
[20:00] <Bashing-om> jaydemir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving .
[20:00] <jaydemir> how quick are we talking?
[20:00] <TheNH813> My install partition is actually 32GB right now, though I have a much larger RAID array. :D
[20:01] <jaydemir> I actually thought about doing a USB raid but I'd have to do research for that
[20:10] <CoderEurope> Still have the damn "Unlock keyring" on chrome for three weeks now.
[20:10] <TheNH813> You might be missing a component
[20:11] <TheNH813> Try installing gnome-keyring and gconf
[20:11] <CoderEurope> how ?
[20:11] <TheNH813> I can't remember the exact package names but that fixed it for me.
[20:11] <TheNH813> Open a terminal
[20:11] <CoderEurope> yep
[20:11] <TheNH813> Il get the package names
[20:12] <TheNH813> sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring gconf
[20:13] <CoderEurope> no joy : https://paste.ubuntu.com/25041423/
[20:14] <TheNH813> Try gconf-service instead of gconf
[20:19] <oerheks> CoderEurope, create a new keyring https://thatmaheshrs.wordpress.com/2014/02/01/google-chrome-and-password-keyrings-on-xubuntu/
[20:19] <oerheks> but this tip is already given to you
[20:37] <oerheks> minimec, about abiquinn > http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/latest-steamos-beta-picks-up-linux-kernel-4-11-8-to-fix-ps4-ds-controller-crash-516876.shtml
[20:40] <minimec> oerheks: Hi. THX for the in formation. What we tried to do yesterday evening was to wwrite an udev rule that initialites the Sony DualShock on plug. The steam bug was just a side effect abiquinn became aware of. Unfortunately we were not succcesful withour udev rule, although we ended up with a script that allows him to initialize the device with one command.
[20:41] <oerheks> minimec, that, i followed. still odd that the rule does not work aut
[20:43] <minimec> oerheks: Yeah... But somehow it was some good brain food for me, and I had some time yesterday. For example I only found out yesterday that you need an absolute path in scripts that you launch in a udev rule... ;)
[20:53] <qwerkus> Hello, quick question here: where can I set the option "redirect-gateway" for an openVPN connection with the network manager ?
[20:59] <limbo_> How do I get information about what sounds are playing? I'm writing a script, and it needs to know if anything on the system is playing sound.
[21:01] <limbo_> If there's a sound server agnostic way of doing this, that's even better.
[21:05] <oerheks> limbo_, pulse-audio can detect that https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/61351
[21:05] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[21:05] <oerheks> or https://superuser.com/questions/393448/detecting-audio-playing-in-a-bash-script
[21:11] <limbo_> firefox still shows up as running with pacmd list-sink-inputs despite not playing anything.
[21:14] <oerheks> list-sink-inputs sounds like apps that have access right now. how about 'pactl list | grep State'
[21:15] <oerheks> i see a difference when chrome/firefox is playing or not
[21:23] <limbo_> I see where my problem came from. cryptowat.ch can play a sound, so firefox created an input for it and didn't give me an indication.
[21:24] <limbo_> Any ideas on how to deal with this? Is there any way to get the volume of each source/sink? Or, is there a more platform agnostic way of doing this?
[21:26] <kostkon> limbo_, define platform
[21:33] <eein> hello. clfu question. I want to collapse a log to only the first occurrence of a line. uniq -u seems to remove all occurrences that are duplicates
[21:34] <nacc> eein: you mean you want to just get the first line in a long matching some pattern?
[21:34] <nacc> *log not long
[21:34] <eein> nacc, so I used cut to trim the unique bits that every line has so now there should be lines that are the exact pattern match. now I just want all the duplicate patterns to be just one entry
[21:35] <eein> nacc, so yes
[21:35] <nacc> eein: grep -m1
[21:36] <nacc> eein: for each pattern?
[21:36] <nacc> eein: it sort of sounds like you're reinventing logwatch, fwiw
[21:36] <eein> there could be thousands of unique patters
[21:36] <nacc> eein: then i don't understand what you're asking
[21:36] <eein> and thousands of duplicates of each unique pattern
[21:36] <nacc> eein: rather than tell me what you did, what are you trying to accomplish?
[21:37] <eein> log:
[21:37] <eein> hello
[21:37] <eein> goodbye
[21:37] <eein> hello
[21:37] <eein> it should be reduced to hello and goodbye
[21:37] <eein> uniq -u seems to remove hello
[21:37] <MarkAllasread> Curious — anyone swap to wayland?
[21:37] <nacc> eein: and why doesn't uniq not work for you?
[21:38] <nacc> eein: don't pass -u
[21:38] <nacc> eein: -u means only print *unique* lines (no duplicates)
[21:38] <nacc> eein: you would need to sort the input first, as well
[21:39] <eein> derp sorry I must have missed that in the uniq man
[21:39] <nacc> eein: uniq is for eliding repeated lines appearing next to each other (by default), so you'd need to make sure the duplicates all get grouped (that's why you often see `... | sort | uniq`
[21:39] <limbo_> kostkon: operating system/sound server combination.
[21:39] <eein> hmm nope it seems cat log| uniq still leaves repeats
[21:40] <eein> ok yep got it
[21:40] <kostkon> limbo_, only linux based?
[21:40] <boblamont> Does anyone use k3b to rip audio cds to mp3? The only configuration options are a command string and some of the options didn't come up in the lame man page. It's the half on the right. I think it specifies how to name the resulting file, but I can't find documentation for the k3b configuration line.
[21:41] <eein> hmm that kind of sux though since it changes the order of things nacc
[21:41] <limbo_> kostkon: Ideally, it should work anywhere bash does. But I'll settle for linux (ubuntu with pulseaudio) since that's what's on all my machines.
[21:41] <nacc> eein: order relative to what?
[21:41] <nacc> eein: you don't seem to care about the order?
[21:41] <eein> like it alphabetizes it
[21:42] <kostkon> limbo_, the vast majority of linux desktops use pulseaudio for sound nowadays
[21:42] <oerheks> kostkon, not sure PA can tell what webpage plays sound, found a way to tell limbo that a sound is playing.
[21:42] <nacc> eein: ah -- true
[21:42] <eein> I have a bunch of binary values and it alphabetizes them
[21:42] <nacc> eein: you need to be able to provide uniq some means of the input being grouped
[21:42] <nacc> eein: or it can't be used for your input
[21:42] <kostkon> oerheks, pulse is the proper way to do it
[21:42] <koffel> i am using Ceton InfiniTV 4 and ubuntu 14.04 and i can't get it to work
[21:43] <ca_cabotage> hey how can i prevent GUI from startign on boot?
[21:43] <limbo_> kostkon: I know. I don't want to hit an edge case and have it break though. Also, windows/osx doesn't.
[21:43] <oerheks> kostkon, sure, pactl list | grep State # does the job sofar
[21:44] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: Each and every boot ..or just sometimes ? and what release ?
[21:44] <limbo_> oerheks: any idea how to check the volume of the sound being played? Or that there's actually sound being played?
[21:44] <eein> hmm yeah so there isn't something that tokenizes lines and removes only keeps first occurances. I could dump everything into a dict but then I lose order too
[21:44] <ca_cabotage> all boots, 16.04
[21:44] <akik> boblamont: i didn't use k3b but there's a built-in audio ripper in konqueror. you can access it through "audiocd:/" address
[21:45] <nacc> eein: you would need to write a parser to do that
[21:45] <nacc> eein: that understands what it's read so far and to skip if seen again, etc.
[21:45] <limbo_> eein: add line numbers, sort -u ignoring the line numbers, then sort again and remove the line numbers.
[21:46] <oerheks> ca_cabotage, https://askubuntu.com/questions/870221/booting-into-text-mode-in-16-04/870226
[21:46] <eein> yeah I think I have to. I just thought this might be a common task and someone already did this
[21:46] <kostkon> oerheks, it does
[21:46] <eein> limbo_, I think that would still break the order in which lines appeared
[21:46] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: Edit /etc/default/grub . change the line to : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" .
[21:47] <eein> its all gravy I can write a script just hoping I didn;t have to. ty
[21:47] <oerheks> limbo_, what have you found sofar? google "ubuntu comandline pulsaudio show volume" gives tons of info
[21:48] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: remember to run ' sudo update-grub ' to propogate the change when the file is saved - you do make backups 1st prior to editing .
[21:48] <oerheks> Bashing-om, that works too indeed
[21:49] <limbo_> oerheks: nothing. All the resuts when I search that are about volume settings, not the volume of the sound being played.
[21:50] <Bashing-om> oerheks: I find that editing grub is the sane way :)
[21:50] <minimec> boblamont: My answer is 'no', I don't use k3b. There is a far better tool for the terminal called 'abcde'. See http://www.andrews-corner.org/linux/abcde/index.html and http://www.vultaire.net/blog/2014/01/27/ultimate-paranoid-cd-rippingtaggingencoding-using-abcde/ as example.
[21:52] <oerheks> limbo_, what is "volume of the sound being played" ??? a volume within a volume?
[21:53] <boblamont> minimec: thanks, I'll check out abcde. I did manage to find where they hid the documentation for their file codes.. it's in the final save screen when you go to rip... but oddly enough they've written it in the closest thing to invisible ink they could find. It's a very, very faint blue on a light yellow background. It's not selectable, so I can't copy/paste it somewhere more readable.
[21:54] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:55] <minimec> boblamont: I normally do flac backups with abcde with one simple command 'abcde -1 -a default,cue -o flac' and use a different script to do some mp3 copies with lower quality. I created a paste with the mp3/ogg convert script. http://paste.ubuntu.com/25041905/ (tributes go to the author of the scipt mentioned in the script itself).
[21:55] <kostkon> limbo_, sdl audio could be the platform agnostic solution you are looking for? https://wiki.libsdl.org/CategoryAudio
[21:55] <limbo_> oerheks: the actual output power on the sink. e.g. if my volume is turned up 100%, and I'm playing a quiet audio track, it should be lower than when I'm playing a loud one.
[21:57] <limbo_> The actual number doesn't matter, as long as it's zero when no sound is being played, and higher than zero when sound is.
[21:58] <ca_cabotage> if trying to maximize RAM available in a low-end system, what services should i disable other than the GUI?
[21:59] <Poster> it's probably easier to turn off everything then enable only what you actually need
[21:59] <koffel> can i use Ceton InfiniTV 4 and ubuntu 14.04 ?
[21:59] <limbo_> ca_cabotage: anything that stores a lot of data in RAM. Usually it's a configuration thing.
[22:00] <limbo_> irssi is using 17% of my ram right now.
[22:01] <limbo_> kostkon: that looks like a library. Do you know if there are any simple wrappers for it?
[22:01] <kostkon> limbo_, there are a few bindings http://www.libsdl.org/languages.php
[22:04] <fl3sh> hi, any idea why I getting: Kernel panic-not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) trying boot ubuntu 17.04 or 16.10 using pxe, it can be caused by poor internet connection?
[22:07] <limbo_> kostkon: none of these are bash. I would have to write an adapter in another language just to use it in a bash script.
[22:12] <fl3sh> never mind
[22:21] <timdotrb> Afternoon, all
[22:22] <timdotrb> I want to extract the last 30 events from a log file that match a certain IP. Right now I’m doing: cat /path/to/log | grep x.x.x.x -m 30
[22:23] <timdotrb> But I believe that grabs the first 30?
[22:23] <timdotrb> So I was wondering if I could modify the command to start at the end of the log.. I’m not sure how I’d craft tail into getting me what I’d want
[22:24] <nacc> grep x.x.x.x /path/to/log | tail -n 30
[22:24] <nacc> timdotrb: --^
[22:25] <timdotrb> nacc: Perfect. Thanks :)
[22:25] <nacc> timdotrb: yw
[23:02] <hovis> So when I'm in a video call with Google Hangouts (in Chrome) and I try to share my active application, the only screens that aren't black are Chrome based apps. (Chrome itself, Slack, Hangouts client, etc)
[23:02] <hovis> All other windows are just empty black boxes (terminal emulator, editors, etc)
[23:02] <hovis> Perhaps there's some sort of permissions issue here?  I can imagine a security feature where apps aren't allowed to see how other apps render.
[23:03] <limbo_> nacc: also, you should escape those . characters like "x\.x\.x\.x" s they are literal .s and not wildcards.
[23:06] <nacc> limbo_: err, right, or use -F
[23:06] <nacc> limbo_: i was going purely off the given input
[23:14] <null_r3f> How’s the current performance of virtualbox on ubuntu desktop? Is VMware or alternatives significantly better on that platform?
[23:14] <kk4ewt> null_r3f,  myself i have found vbox to be better than vmware for years
[23:15] <kk4ewt> libvirt is the new hotness
[23:15] <null_r3f> kk4ewt: awesome, I’m looking for a good virtualization program to run on top a home OS. Hoping to run “research” vm’s and also use it as a media server
[23:24] <null_r3f> I wonder how the performance would be installing ubuntu to a USB drive and running that, similar to a VMware ESXi setup
[23:24] <Hulio> hi guys, what is the command to burn ubuntu iso to usb ?
[23:24] <Hulio> i kind of forget
[23:25] <eelstrebor> does ubuntu need tpm or can i disable it?
[23:25] <Hulio> can someone tell me is there a command line that i can burn ubuntu iso to usb so i can install it on other machine?
[23:25] <limbo_> null_r3f: virtualbox uses the same virtualization tech everybody does.
[23:26] <null_r3f> limbo_: some kind of high performance kernel hook?
[23:26] <limbo_> well, KVM is a pretty common method.
[23:26] <Bashing-om> Hulio: ' sudo dd if=/dev/sdx of=/dev/sdy bs=8M && sync ; will do that .
[23:27] <limbo_> There's others too. Change it depending on what you want.
[23:27] <Hulio> ok thanks something like that
[23:27] <Jonii> Hey, I upgraded to 17.04
[23:27] <Hulio> is it sudo -fdisk -list ?
[23:27] <Hulio> to list
[23:27] <limbo_> null_r3f: try qubesOS out if you want to realy give running VMs a go. It runs everything in a VM.
[23:27] <Jonii> And for whatever reason, when I have windows of some program open in multiple monitors, then clicking or double clicking the icon on the launcher doesn't show the windows
[23:27] <Jonii> Unlike all previous Ubuntu versions. It works as it used to work if all the program windows are within single monitor
[23:28] <null_r3f> limbo_: I think that would impact my ability to use the host OS as a media server
[23:28] <Jonii> Is there workaround/fix?
[23:28] <Bashing-om> Hulio: -- list . or just short ' sudo fdisk -lu ' .
[23:28] <Jonii> This has worked fine ever since 12.04, on every version of Ubuntu/Unity I've tried
[23:28] <limbo_> null_r3f: how so? you could put the media server in its own VM, and hook up all the ports.
[23:29] <Hulio> Bashing-om, thanks man, it's burning to usb now
[23:29] <Hulio> u're the best!
[23:29] <Hulio> Bashing-om, only i need is if= my iso file
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Hulio: just sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync .
[23:32] <Hulio> Bashing-om, yes man, it has been doing it :)
[23:32] <Hulio> i'm just waiting for it to finish, time is money!
[23:32] <null_r3f> limbo_: you make a good point, unfortunately learning the new OS would take up some time when I could be doing my research on the VM's
[23:32] <Bashing-om> Hulio: Good man :)
[23:33] <Hulio> Bashing-om, time is money, do you agree?  either gaining or loosing.
[23:33] <limbo_> fair.
[23:34] <null_r3f> limbo_: I’ve heard a lot of great security-related things about it though
[23:34] <null_r3f> limbo_: might have to install it as a VM ;)
[23:35] <limbo_> That's not a great idea, unless you're pretty good at running VMs.
[23:35] <Bashing-om> Hulio: depends on the environmnet and what the end goals are . Capalistic society. most likely time==money .
[23:35] <null_r3f> limbo_: I’m a virtual expert
[23:38] <yorwos> is it possible one of these updates in the last 3 days broke my electrum ? python-samba:amd64 (2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu0.16.04.7, 2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu0.16.04.8) , libpoppler-qt4-4:amd64 (0.41.0-0ubuntu1.1, 0.41.0-0ubuntu1.2), libpoppler-qt5-1:amd64 (0.41.0-0ubuntu1.1, 0.41.0-0ubuntu1.2)
[23:42] <Bashing-om> !info python-samba xenial | yorwos