[07:47] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:17] <uiduser> hi everyone
[09:06] <uiduser> ...
[09:15] <uiduser> ...
[09:15] <uiduser> nobody chating..
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:56] <immu> hi
[13:57] <immu> does any know how to stop my microphone-inbuilt levels getting reduced automatically to lower levels
[14:10] <BluesKaj> immu, it's probly to prevent feedback from your speakers if you have system sounds enabled at startup
[14:12] <immu> i don't want that to happ
[14:12] <immu> i want my microphone levels to stick to where i ask it to stick?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> try increasing your mic level in alsamixer , escape , then sudo alsactl store
[14:15] <BluesKaj> it may or may not work, depends which OS you're using atm
[14:16] <immu> i am on ubuntu 17.10
[14:16] <immu> nothing works like it so good
[14:17] <BluesKaj> that's what I like about debian, setings aren't hit ot miss or affected by soem other config file
[14:18] <immu> so you oon debian now?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> atm yes
[14:19] <immu> and what about kubuntu?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> still testing kubuntu 17.10 on another partition tho
[14:20] <immu> do u have a similar /partition?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> i'll be switching back to it in a lttle while
[14:20] <BluesKaj> what do you mean, similar?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> it's on separate / and /home partitions
[14:23] <immu> so you have kept a seperate / for debian? and /home
[14:26] <BluesKaj> yes, always separate / and /home, then you can reinstall to / if your system decomes ubrescuable and just set the moutpoint for you /home in the manual partitioning phase of the installation
[14:26] <BluesKaj> unrescuable
[14:26] <immu> pl
[14:26] <immu> ok
[14:28] <BluesKaj> that way yousave all your desktop setups and application config files, and even if you have to reinstall some apps, usually non default, the configs a re still there and require little setup if at all
[14:28] <immu> i have kept my / separate
[14:28] <immu> this time
[14:28] <immu> and rest is /home
[14:28] <immu> what about /boot?
[14:28] <immu> or its to late
[14:29] <BluesKaj> I don't have a UEFI system it's bios
[14:29] <BluesKaj> no need for boot on bios sytems anymore either
[14:29] <BluesKaj>  /boot
[14:30] <immu> !uefi
[14:30] <immu> i ahev UEFI but set my bios to legacy
[14:30] <immu> i also have Windows on dual boot
[14:32] <BluesKaj> yeah I'm dual booting debain and kubuntu
[14:32] <BluesKaj> debian
[14:32] <immu> how is debian ?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> I like it a lot
[14:34] <immu> how old where you?
[14:38] <immu> BluesKaj, ?
[14:38] <immu> you are tempting me with debian
[14:39] <BluesKaj> how old where you?...what do you mean?
[14:43] <immu> are you? autocorrect?
[14:45] <xangua> What old are you?
[14:46] <immu> ok what is your current age you can remember BluesKaj ?
[14:46] <xangua> I still hear people saying you need an engineer help to install Debian or something like that
[14:55] <BluesKaj> xangua, never heard that
[14:58] <BluesKaj> immu, are you asking me how old I am? That's irrelevant
[14:59] <xangua> Well people still say you need an "expert" help, that's the point
[15:00] <BluesKaj> I'm not an expert but there are various ways to install debian including a GUI that gives you step by step guidance similar to the ubuntu s etc
[15:01] <immu> it helps me deal with a person based on its age
[15:02] <BluesKaj> immu, you refer to people as "it"
[15:02] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:03] <oerheks> 7x7
[15:03]  * oerheks is 49
[15:03]  * xangua is 300
[15:04] <oerheks> marry me, next life!
[15:04] <xangua> This is Sparta!
[15:05] <oerheks> Sparta is a famous dutch bicycle brand
[15:06] <xangua> All my bicycles were brand less... Or at least I don't remember
[15:06] <BluesKaj> believe it or not I'm almost 74 yrs old
[15:08] <xangua> My grandma is 92
[15:09] <xangua> She can use a smartphone to make calls
[15:09] <BluesKaj> nice, does she use linux ? :-)
[15:10] <xangua> Well not GNU/Linux
[15:10] <immu> bless be you both
[15:10] <immu> it refer to the subject not object
[15:10] <uiduser> ...
[15:10] <BluesKaj> well. prbly android
[15:11] <BluesKaj> people ar ehe or she , not it
[15:12] <immu> oerheks, are you she?
[15:12] <uiduser> hello everyone
[15:12] <immu> i am he / 37 years old :)
[15:12] <oerheks> immu, yes, lots op people think i am .. wonder why
[15:13] <uiduser> what is mail list?
[15:13]  * oerheks crinkles curly hair
[15:13] <immu> in certain cases it can be used to refer people :) BluesKaj
[15:13] <immu> how old are you oerheks
[15:14] <oerheks> uiduser, mail list? where do you read that?
[15:14] <uiduser> someone in forums tells me i can post message to ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[15:15] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[15:15] <immu> google mail list ubuntu
[15:15] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev ?
[15:16] <uiduser> wait a second
[15:16] <uiduser> http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[15:16] <uiduser> i have no idea what this public mail list mean
[15:17] <oerheks> well, that is the whole list of possible groups you can mail, development is a huge list, choose one you think your subject belongs to
[15:18] <immu> you can read, send, reply, participate etc uiduser
[15:19] <uiduser> so it just a normal email address?
[15:19] <uiduser> i thought it is something different before... XD
[15:20] <oerheks> uiduser,  choose ( click) one from https://lists.ubuntu.com/ and you can subscribe on the mailinglist
[15:22] <uiduser> if i subscribe  and leave my email to it, then i can receive some emails they broadcast?
[15:23] <oerheks> uiduser, jups, and depending on the list, it can be many :-D
[15:24] <uiduser> what jups mean...
[15:24] <uiduser> english is my second language
[15:24] <oerheks> jups/yes
[15:25] <uiduser> oh i see
[15:25] <uiduser> thank you very much
[15:25] <xangua> I remember my mother taught me English and then she forgot... Weird
[15:25] <immu> ok
[15:26] <immu> bless be our elders, moms and pops everywhere
[15:27] <uiduser> yeah
[15:28] <immu> uiduser, as long you can articulate what you mean i am cool
[15:28] <uiduser> im trying to tell ubuntu developer
[15:29] <uiduser> if they can add a checkbox which can turn off guest session in system preference
[15:30] <immu> uiduser, you want to remove guest access?
[15:30] <uiduser> all right, thanks
[15:30] <immu> ?eh?
[15:30] <uiduser> >> uiduser, as long you can articulate what you mean i am cool
[15:30] <uiduser> thanks for your encourage
[15:31] <uiduser> i know how to achieve that, by modifying a conf file
[15:31] <immu> cmd is also their
[15:32] <uiduser> but considering many ordinary users don't know that, it would be nice if there are a checkbox in user interface
[15:33] <immu> which ver of ubuntu are you using
[15:33] <uiduser> 16.04
[15:34] <immu> LTS
[15:34] <uiduser> yeah
[15:34] <immu> many people for some reason love LTS releases, but i cannot bear to run a LTS release
[15:35] <uiduser> you always like to taste something new?
[15:36] <immu> its something, always want shiny and new in linux
[15:36] <BluesKaj> LTS are good on production machines where the system requires stability and security
[15:37] <immu> yeah
[15:37] <immu> but Ubuntu is 6 months release so shouldn't be a issue
[15:37] <uiduser> yeah, im a designer and i need exactly something stable. don't want be bothered  to  fix computer
[15:39] <immu> good then as long you are happy :) mine is not production just easy sailing
[15:40] <uiduser> immu: so are you using Gnome now?
[15:40] <immu> yes i am on 17.10 daily builds and will move onto final release on Oct :)
[15:42] <uiduser> that's cool
[15:42] <immu> uiduser, I am using minimum extensions
[15:43] <immu> i had a hard time expecting the change from ubuntu to unity :)
[15:43] <immu> felt very sad and withdrawl syptoms
[15:43] <immu> then when on a distro hopping spreee ask BluesKaj
[15:43] <BluesKaj> you mean unity to gnome
[15:44] <BluesKaj> they are both ubuntu DEs
[15:44] <immu> yup
[15:45] <immu> sorry unity to gnome
[15:45] <uiduser> i like glass effects... gnome don't have that. and i can't get used to it's lunchmenu
[15:45] <uiduser> so am i
[15:46] <uiduser> i think gnome is suitable to touchscreen and mobile devices
[15:46] <immu> glass effects
[15:46] <uiduser> unity and win7 both have that
[15:47] <immu> you can use extension to bring the extension dock outsideand place it anywhere you want
[15:47] <immu> i keep it at bottom
[15:47] <uiduser> it may consume a little more battery but looks really good.
[15:48] <uiduser> im ok about the position, its nice to dock it to the left
[15:48] <immu> mine is always plugged in
[15:48] <immu> https://liquorix.net/#features
[15:49] <immu> !liquorix
[15:49] <BluesKaj> I still prefer kde/plasma ...never cared for gnome, gnome shell, lxde, unity etc etc
[15:49] <uiduser> haha
[15:49] <immu> yes if you want KDE use Opensuse or Kubuntu or KDE neon
[15:49] <immu> but i find best implemntation of kde on Opensuse
[15:50] <uiduser> first time to hear liquorix...
[15:51] <immu> its a drop in kernel replacement it helps you scratch the ich for newer kernels
[15:51] <immu> safe and stable. and its built just like ubuntu does
[15:52] <uiduser> i will take a time to look at it later.
[15:52] <uiduser> sound nice
[15:52] <uiduser> sounds nice
[15:53] <BluesKaj> bah opensuse... kde is so flexible, it's setings go way beyond the OS youre using. One OS doesn't do kde better than any other that I've experienced
[15:54] <uiduser> umm, which countries are you guys come from? if you would like to say that.
[15:54] <uiduser> i come from china
[15:54] <BluesKaj> uiduser, you first :-)
[15:54] <uiduser> sichuan province.
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Canada here
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Ontario
[15:55] <uiduser> wow,go halfway around the globe
[15:55] <uiduser> amazing internet.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> yes it is
[15:56] <uiduser> im a student majoring urban planning
[15:56] <uiduser>  (you don't have to say that if you dont want to)
[15:57] <immu> UAE/AE , but Indian
[15:57] <uiduser> (just self introduce)
[15:57] <uiduser> cool
[15:58] <BluesKaj>  /me was born in Finland to Swedish parents and emigrated to Canada when I was just little
[15:59] <uiduser> XD
[15:59] <BluesKaj> right after WW2
[15:59] <uiduser> wow
[16:00] <immu> double wow
[16:01] <uiduser> im going to sleep now, its 0 clock here.
[16:01] <uiduser> see you guys
[16:01] <DArqueBishop> UNIX folks tend to be old fogies.
[16:02] <immu> :)
[16:03] <immu> nice to see the channel so alive with conversations
[16:04] <lordievader> Now that my desktop commited suicide it is time to try out for neon :)
[16:05] <BluesKaj> not  unix guy , linux became my hobby after retirement, I did use unix application programs in the 80s, but then we switched to dos , then W3.1 and W95 after that. I started with linux about 15 yrs ago, off and on til I finally adopted it full time in 2005
[16:05] <lordievader> Something probably went wrong with the conversion to raid 0
[16:05]  * DArqueBishop is an old rogue.
[16:05] <DArqueBishop> Not as old as BluesKaj, but old. :-)
[16:06] <DArqueBishop> s/rogue/fogie/
[16:06] <BluesKaj> lordievader, neon will help your desktop commit suicede more quickly :-)
[16:06] <immu> how come BluesKaj lordievader
[16:07] <lordievader> Last time I checked it it was quite stable.
[16:07] <BluesKaj> lordievader, I hope so because my experience with wasn't
[16:08] <immu> you mean Neon KDE you mean BluesKaj
[16:08] <BluesKaj> with it wasn't
[16:08] <BluesKaj> Neon uses KDE immu
[16:09] <immu> yeah i know KDE BluesKaj
[16:10] <immu> since i found it to be using LTS release i didn't touch it
[16:11] <BluesKaj> kde is available on all'buntu releases, not just LTS
[16:11] <BluesKaj> I use kde/plasma on 17.10
[16:12] <BluesKaj> aka kubuntu
[16:18] <immu> yeah
[16:18] <immu> brb
[16:18] <immu> wife shopping
[17:12] <brunch> hayo GUIs
[17:48] <immu> lback
[17:48] <immu> back
[17:51] <immu> back again :)
[17:55] <immu> dinner time
[23:33] <Bashing-om> SlOw Saturday .. All over .