[23:15] <qwebirc4266> i have used mythtv for about 3 years on old 2004 computer
[23:15] <qwebirc4266> so i finally upgraded
[23:16] <qwebirc4266> z270 asrock gaming itx 16gb ram and intel ssd
[23:17] <qwebirc4266> installed 16.04 - it would work fine, then after reboot (as least I thought) it would not record (recorder failed) and no live tv
[23:17] <qwebirc4266> did this more than 15 times so i could locate the problem - no help
[23:18] <qwebirc4266> so one of the times i used a regular hard drive - and that works - and still does.
[23:18] <qwebirc4266> so i try again many times with ssd - still not working after reboot (ok before)
[23:18] <qwebirc4266> so i was trying to remember what majic i did on the regular hard drive
[23:19] <qwebirc4266> in frustration (this since june 20) i decided to image the hard drive and put it on the ssd
[23:20] <qwebirc4266> it worked - for a while - but now has the same problem again - recorder failed and cannot watch live tv
[23:20] <qwebirc4266> is there something i am missing about using an ssd?
[23:24] <qwebirc4266> motherboard is z270 gaming -itx/ac.  cpu is intel i5 7600k (i am not overclocking)
[23:25] <qwebirc4266> memory is 16gb corsair ddr4 2400mhz 10ns latency (would the low latency have anyting to do with prob?)
[23:26] <qwebirc4266> I am using built in graphics which are hdmi 2.0 4k @60hz - but have tried standard hd
[23:28] <qwebirc4266> as the hard drive is still operating the mythtv program and the ssd gives the error this seems to be the only difference I can determine.
[23:28] <qwebirc4266> the ssd has been in the 2004 computer and working fine (for a 2004 computer)
[23:32] <qwebirc4266> I tried installing 14.04 mythbuntu and that works on my skylake computer and works with the kabylake on the fatal1ty z270 itx/ac but as the z270 needs 16.04, when i run 14.04 i get no sound and no internet.  when i run 16.04 on ssd and z270 i get picture, sound (only spdif not hdmi) and internet but no live tv and no recording
[23:37] <qwebirc4266>  have also run fstrim -v / to make sure the image did not leave problems
[23:46] <tgm4883> Sounds like the back end is starting before your they is ready
[23:47] <tgm4883> I'm on my phone currently so can't help, but try restarting the back end after it boots
[23:52] <qwebirc4266> ok, i had also set it where the front end does not auto start - so the back end is running for quite a while and then I start front end.  there does seem to be a delay at times though, the front end at first says no back end and then few seconds later - green check mark and says connected
[23:54] <qwebirc4266> still no recording
[23:54] <qwebirc4266> thanks for the effort though
[23:57] <qwebirc4266> if i exit front end and then turn off back end, then turn on back end and then wait 10 seconds or so and then start front end it still has no reocording and no live tv.  using hdhomerun network tuner - front end log says something about not able to see tuners