Phanes | helloi | 03:10 |
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Phanes | can you please reign in your operator | 03:10 |
bazhang | hi | 03:10 |
bazhang | I opened a PM with you, but here is better | 03:11 |
Phanes | your behaviour just now was bizarrely inappropriate for such a politely phrased question | 03:11 |
Phanes | can you please chill out | 03:11 |
bazhang | Phanes, you were asked repeatedly to stay on topic, just kept posting that | 03:12 |
Phanes | i was not asked repeatedly | 03:12 |
bazhang | Phanes, then you missed it | 03:12 |
Phanes | however i do recall the last time i was in this channel you misrepresented the interaction then as well (i use a bouncer that logs) | 03:12 |
bazhang | Phanes, it's not a matter of logs, the channel is publically logged | 03:13 |
Phanes | here is the interaction in its entirety in proper context: http://paste.silogroup.org/amuqirepiw.swift | 03:13 |
Phanes | right its a matter of maintaining reporting integrity when discussing interpersonal issues that you clearly have and have had for months | 03:13 |
bazhang | !1984 > Phanes | 03:13 |
ubottu | Phanes, please see my private message | 03:13 |
Phanes | simply pointing out that the logs are public while misrepresenting their contents is not appropriate | 03:14 |
bazhang | Phanes, any political campaign as such you mention is oh so very clearly offtopic for a support channel such as #ubuntu | 03:15 |
Phanes | out of the way the now two established facts that (1) i was not asked repeatedly and (2) the ban was both immediate and inappropriate and in response to polite approach on a question for where it would be on topic, I am asking that you release it and in the future warn first | 03:15 |
bazhang | Phanes, after your initial post, multiple support members indicated that you were offtopic, and you just kept posting, even at greater length | 03:16 |
Phanes | that is a lie | 03:16 |
Phanes | please see the logs | 03:16 |
Phanes | sorry i dont know why you're doing this | 03:16 |
bazhang | Phanes, multiple requests is warnings to get back on topic | 03:16 |
Phanes | i made two statements, both politely, and both were a question about where i should ask | 03:17 |
Phanes | do you deny this? | 03:17 |
bazhang | Phanes, after the first you were told by multiple folks to stay ontopic, warned repeatedly, besides the fact that you know full well that is so completely offtopic for a Linux OS support channel | 03:18 |
Phanes | i am going to paste the timestamped comments because that's not what happened | 03:18 |
Phanes | this was my first question: | 03:18 |
Phanes | <Phanes> not sure if this is the right place, direct to proper place if so; is canonical participating in BDS? | 03:18 |
Phanes | one replier said: | 03:18 |
Phanes | <KDDLB> I don't think this is the appropiate place to ask about that | 03:19 |
Phanes | yours was: | 03:19 |
Phanes | <bazhang> Phanes, how is that remotely topical here | 03:19 |
Phanes | someone said: <oerheks> oh, no politics. i was thinking of ubuntuBSD, a dead project | 03:19 |
Phanes | you said: <bazhang> lets get back to support and skip the offtopic chatter here please | 03:19 |
Phanes | and i said: <Phanes> it is not antisemetic it is actually a very moral campaign against genocidal apartheid and is highly relevant in tech culture due to the number of entities with interactions with that government. if it's off-topic that's fine, i would like to know the proper place to ask canonical about it | 03:20 |
Phanes | and then you immediately opped up and set a quiet | 03:20 |
Phanes | my statement was actually in direct reply to: <KDDLB> Germany recently declared the BDS movement anti-Semitic | 03:21 |
Phanes | in any case, i was very polite, not repetitively being warned as you represented it, and did not repeatedly follow up | 03:21 |
Phanes | and this is documented clearly in my timestamped logs as well as your channel's public logs | 03:21 |
Phanes | that point made, i would like to see your elaboration on why you are representing it that way instead of how it happened | 03:21 |
Phanes | and to add context here, I will need a moment to find the logs from the last time we had an interaction like this in ##linux-ops where you were admonished for engaging in similar misrepresentations | 03:22 |
Phanes | While I'm doing that, do you have anything to say? | 03:23 |
hggdh | Phanes: you *know* #ubuntu is a support channel. You *know* politics, sex, football preferences, are *not* on topic | 03:31 |
Phanes | Do you know what month that was? Was that in January? | 03:31 |
Phanes | hggdh, again i apologize, i was more asking where to ask than asking | 03:31 |
Phanes | i think the trigger was a little loose there given the nature of how the request was made | 03:32 |
Phanes | it is a delicate topic anyway i should have known better and will not bring it up again in channel. i probably can google around for a mailing list that might have thoughts on it. | 03:33 |
Phanes | Is everybody cool now here? | 03:49 |
Phanes | * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel | 03:55 |
bazhang | Phanes, you are unquieted | 04:16 |
Phanes | thanks. i hope you feel better soon. | 04:17 |
bazhang | ? | 04:17 |
elky | bazhang_: hi | 20:12 |
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