[01:22] <MorganLeFlay> Is there a way to install ubuntu along my windows 10 if I don't have a CD/USB available?
[01:23] <Sleaker> MorganLeFlay: you can try the updated wubi
[01:23] <M-willbradley> MorganLeFlay: doesn't seem like it would be easy
[01:24] <SwedeMike> MorganLeFlay: http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/easy-way-install-ubuntu-within-windows.htm
[01:24] <Sleaker> https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi
[01:24] <Bashing-om> !install | MorganLeFlay
[01:24] <Sleaker> SwedeMike: original wubi is no longer supported, it last worked on 11.04 or maybe 12.04
[01:25] <Sleaker> so that link is really really not going to help
[01:25] <Sleaker> it will also severely break the system if it's UEFI.
[01:26] <M-willbradley> fundamentally you need to boot (or be booted) from media which isn't the hard drive you're about to modify, right? so like PXE could work, or putting the hard drive in another machine
[01:27] <M-willbradley> the real question is probably, why can't you use usb or a cd?
[01:27] <Sleaker> the update wubi installer might work.
[01:27] <Sleaker> the one I linked to
[01:27] <MorganLeFlay> CD drive doesn't work. Don't own a USB
[02:13] <Hulio> hi guys, how do i install ASUS N-10 usb wireless in Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[02:13] <Hulio> I plug it in but ubuntu don't detect it
[02:13] <Hulio> help would be appreciated
[02:17] <roothorick> On 16.04, I need a newer vulkan.h than what's in the standard repository, but I don't want something so invasive as xorg-edgers. What are my options?
[02:28] <oerheks> roothorick, the *official*  driver ppa perhaps? https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:33] <roothorick> I never thought to look at that PPA because this system has no discrete graphics at all, just the Intel ondie. And Google didn't pick it up at all.
[02:33] <roothorick> interesting.
[02:45] <Hulio> hi guys, how to install usb ASus n10 wireless usb ?
[02:45] <Hulio> my USB ASUS N10 won't work
[02:45] <Hulio> please help
[02:46] <Hulio> lsusb:  this is what i got:
[02:46] <Hulio> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0b05:1786 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. USB-N10 802.11n Network Adapter [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[02:47] <Hulio> how to make it work?
[02:48] <Hulio> guys?
[02:48] <kode54> hold up
[02:49] <kode54> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705004
[02:49] <Bashing-om> roothorick: Also there is : https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers for Intel .
[02:49] <kode54> it's from 2011, but still relevant
[02:49] <kode54> you'll need the wireless adapter's firmware
[02:51] <kode54> Hulio: see that article I linked, it should get you up and running, I hope
[02:57] <Phanes> not sure if this is the right place, direct to proper place if so; is canonical participating in BDS?
[03:00] <KDDLB> I don't think this is the appropiate place to ask about that
[03:01] <oerheks> Boot Device Selection? or do you mean BSD?
[03:01] <KDDLB> no
[03:02] <bazhang> Phanes, what is bds
[03:02] <KDDLB> an anti-Israel campaign
[03:02] <KDDLB> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions
[03:02] <bazhang> Phanes, how is that remotely topical here
[03:03] <KDDLB> Germany recently declared the BDS movement anti-Semitic
[03:03] <oerheks> oh, no politics. i was thinking of ubuntuBSD, a dead project
[03:03] <kode54> because clearly, a Free and Open Source Software operating system needs to get politically aligned
[03:03] <oerheks> oh boy, needs to get political... funny troll
[03:03] <bazhang> lets get back to support and skip the offtopic chatter here please
[03:03] <kode54> tthanks
[03:09] <Phanes> it is not antisemetic it is actually a very moral campaign against genocidal apartheid and is highly relevant in tech culture due to the number of entities with interactions with that government.  if it's off-topic that's fine, i would like to know the proper place to ask canonical about it
[03:20] <mysteriousstu> im getting this same error and using the same version of ubuntu in this .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/930491/group-libvirtd-does-not-exist-while-installing-qemu-kvm
[03:24] <oerheks> In more recent releases (>= Yakkety) the group was renamed to libvirt. Upgraded systems get a new libvirt group with the same gid as the libvirtd group to match that. >> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/libvirt.html
[03:25] <roothorick> Bashing-om: that one doesn't include Vulkan headers, which is all I really want
[03:26] <mysteriousstu> i should call it libvirt instead of libvirtd?
[03:27] <oerheks> mysteriousstu, i guess so, yes.
[03:28] <roothorick> I need Vulkan headers new enough to include VK_KHX_external_memory and friends. This machine doesn't even remotely have the graphics muscle needed for this project, so I don't care if the drivers/runtime on it support the extension
[03:28] <oerheks> add your user, logout/login, and have fun
[03:28] <mysteriousstu> oerheks,
[03:30] <roothorick> sharing resources between rendering contexts was the exclusive domain of Direct3D until literally last year. Needless to say, you need to ride the bleeding edge to play.
[03:34] <meryborn> exit
[03:41] <roothorick> Oh, perfect! The vulkan packages from the graphics-drivers PPA have the headers I need
[03:41] <roothorick> the official proprietary drivers PPA that is
[03:53] <Bashing-om> roothorick: Good deal :)
[04:07] <Hulio> is there realvnc for ubuntu?
[04:07] <Hulio> i really want to remote desktop to it
[04:08] <Hulio> vnc?
[04:16] <Phanes> Hulio, you might be interested in xrdp if you just want remote desktop.
[04:16] <Phanes> what does the package lifecycle look like in ubuntu?  are these built by maintainers by hand or is there a public build system in use
[04:48] <lucas-arg> hey all
[04:48] <lucas-arg> is there any way to make fonts look better on lcd monitors?
[04:50] <Ben64> lucas-arg: yes
[04:51] <lucas-arg> Ben64, okay, would you give me a hint?
[04:52] <Ben64> lucas-arg: heh was trying to google faster than you asking that. it's called subpixel rendering, and i think it's enabled by default on ubuntu?
[04:52] <Ben64> lucas-arg: not sure where the setting is, but you'd want to make sure the pixel order on your monitor is reflected in the settings
[04:53] <Ben64> like if your screen goes RGBRGBRGB and ubuntu thinks its GRBGRBGRB then fonts will look bad
[04:53] <lucas-arg> i think it might be just my lcd monitor... its an hd lcd monitor...
[04:53] <lucas-arg> they look better here than in debian 9
[04:53] <Ben64> cool
[04:55] <lucas-arg> thanks though
[05:18] <lucas-arg> good night folkss
[06:02] <eein> is there a way to scroll select text in gnome terminal
[06:12] <edwinksl> what do you mean by "scroll select text"
[06:35] <capella> keyboard only text-selection command keys in term perhaps?
[06:36] <eein> capella, yeah. I can use the mouse but that is so slow when there are hundreds of lines.
[06:46] <capella> mmmm, you know you can position your cursor, scroll the UI via mouse then hold SHIFT and click into the new cursor position and all text in between is seelcxted ?
[06:46] <capella> if you're in an editor and not read-only of course
[07:01] <eein> capella, well that kind of works. you need to select at least 1 character to select between the two points but that still means you need to scroll with the mouse
[07:02] <eein> its kind of crappy. with a trackpad its actually more like shitty often scrolling upward as you have to use two fingers to select text
[07:02] <eein> is there a terminal that is gui that only does keyboard commands
[07:10] <ca_cabotage> hey newbie question about setting up an ELK stack. When modifying /etc/hosts to include "192.168.1.1     logs.YOURURL.com logs" would that be translated to: "192.168.1.1     logs.HOSTNAME.DOMAIN logs"? I'm following this guide http://pfelk.3ilson.com/ that is associated with this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M47RGsMo_s
[08:03] <mutsy> Hi there. Does anyone know where qtconfig-qt4 saves the config file? I just enabled gui style to inherit from GTK+, but I want to set this via command line ... anyone knows how?
[08:22] <glitsj16> mutsy: iirc that might be under ~/.config/Trolltech.conf
[08:23] <mutsy> glitsj16: yup! thankss!!!
[08:29] <bizhat> what is best irc client for ubuntu, that allow minimize to tray, i installed hexchat, that i don't see a minimize option, googling says there is plugin, i can't find where
[08:32] <glitsj16> bizhat: you might need to install hexchat-indicator to get that functionality
[08:33] <bizhat> thanks, i just installed it :)
[08:34] <glitsj16> yw :)
[08:41] <WinterCame> has anyone encountered issues with audio on linux? Seems restricted to the spotify application (rhythmbox, chrome, firefox play audio perfectly)
[08:45] <bizhat> @glitsj16 hexchat-indicator won't help to minimize, it shows indicator, if close hexchat window, it get closed, indicator stays, indicator > hexchat will restart hexchat
[08:48] <glitsj16> bizhat: too bad, I never used hexchat.. But this might help --> https://github.com/cheshire-mouse/hexchat-indicator .. seems to be a known issue
[08:49] <bizhat> thanks, any other good alternative, i am new to irc, so just need one that works, found this hexchat in google
[08:50] <SchrodingersScat> bizhat: when you're ready, you won't even need a gui
[08:50] <glitsj16> bizhat: lots of options there, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat yet?
[08:51] <bizhat> yes, i installed irssi before, but i am not sure if it can make sound when i get a message
[08:51] <bizhat> yes, i checked ubuntu page, i will check again
[09:21] <fengshaun> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 17.04 using a serial console, but when I boot with the cd, it asks me for a login
[09:21] <fengshaun> what's the default login?
[09:30] <Ben64> there doesn't appear to be one
[09:58] <MsK`> hello, I just reinstalled my laptop with windows 10 and then ubuntu 16.04 LTS, the boot menu doesn't show up to select ubuntu. I got a sony S13A laptop from 2013, I could boot on the usb stick for install with F11 but I tried all keys and none shows a boot menu, can't find it... any suggestions ?
[10:01] <akik> MsK`: try looking into your bios if you have a menu where you can select an efi file to be booted (e.g. grubx64.efi)
[10:02] <MsK`> that's the thing, I can't manage to get in :(
[10:02] <MsK`> I tried F1, F2, F5, F10, F... delete, all keys
[10:02] <MsK`> it goes straight to windows
[10:02] <akik> MsK`: esc, f8 ?
[10:03] <MsK`> I think I did all but I'll try that one again ^^
[10:03] <akik> manufacturers should stop messing around with the boot stuff
[10:03] <akik> i had the same problem with this acer laptop
[10:04] <MsK`> actually, it may have been me that set up a fast boot option years ago
[10:17] <nati> Hi
[10:17] <nati> I need help
[10:17] <nati> How can I view complete system messages?
[10:17] <nati> I use npm tool that popups me system message , but it's only short version
[10:18] <nati> I need to see the full version of the system message
[10:18] <nati> ..
[10:49] <Halleluia> anyone know of any free ssh host
[10:53] <ikonia> Halleluia: no, and it's offtopic for here
[10:58] <a1exas> Hello I have an issue with sudden problem with loading encrypted partition with Ubuntu 17 installed on it, please advice. https://askubuntu.com/questions/929556/encrypted-system-partition-failed-to-load-on-ubuntu-17-04
[10:58] <vlt> nati: Do `dmesg` or /var/log/syslog help?
[10:59] <vlt> Halleluia: (I don't even know what this is.)
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:28] <SchrodingersScat> vlt: they're gone now, but they meant there's people that will give you a free account on linux/bsd machines.  #bshellz used to be one, there were many years ago, idk how many survive.
[11:47] <fuser> Hello. My UI scale keeps resetting (some kind of bug). Is there a command I can run to set the scale instead of setting it through the "Displays" settings GUI which takes too long to do frequently?
[11:48] <fuser> should I use xrandr?
[11:50] <ikonia> why would xrandr change the behaviour ?
[11:50] <ikonia> and to be clear is it the desktop scale or the actual display resolution that is being reset
[11:52] <fuser> ikonia: desktop scale
[11:52] <ikonia> ok - so xrandr doesn't control your desktop scale
[11:52] <ikonia> you need to look at the specifics around the desktop you're using and how it saves/stores your desktop ocnfig
[11:52] <ikonia> config
[11:53] <fuser> ikonia: When I change the "Scale for menu and title bars" in the Setting->Displays app, it changes the scale for everything, applications included. That's what I've been using.
[11:53] <fuser> ikonia: but on 17.04 it resets, its a known bug
[11:53] <ikonia> fuser: ok, so re-read what I said
[11:53] <ikonia> fuser: where is the bug for it ?
[11:53] <ikonia> (what is the bug reference)
[11:53] <fuser> im just asking what command I use instead of using the setting->displays app
[11:53] <fuser> ill get it
[11:54] <ikonia> (what is the bug reference)
[11:54] <fuser> im getting it
[11:54] <ikonia> understood
[11:55] <Dreamscape> hi all im just installing ubuntu server on a drive which has data i want to keep. it is FAT32 i think. how can i install to this drive without loosing my data?
[11:55] <ikonia> Dreamscape: you cant
[11:55] <ikonia> Dreamscape: you need to backup the data off the fat32 partition if that is the partition you want to use
[11:55] <Dreamscape> damn, what would you recommend i do as i have no other drives big enough to back up..
[11:56] <ikonia> I recommend you backup the data you want, or buy a new drive to install on it
[11:56] <fuser> ikonia: Bug #1690520, Bug #1689356
[11:56] <Dreamscape> make a smaller partition for the OS and keep the existing partition in place but make it smaller
[11:56] <Dreamscape> that would work?
[11:56] <ikonia> fuser: lets have a look at the info
[11:56] <ikonia> Dreamscape: making additional partitions would work yes,
[11:56] <SchrodingersScat> Dreamscape: if the data is only on one drive then you don't really 'have' the data anyway.  You're in a precarious position with or without ubuntu.  One fall and it could be over ;(
[11:57] <ikonia> Dreamscape: howver be aware that partitioning/chaning the partition table is a risk also, so again, backup your data
[11:57] <Dreamscape> indeed :) that's why i came here haha
[11:57] <Dreamscape> ok thanks
[11:57] <fr0tzed> Well you can try keeping the data in one partition than install ubuntu on the other ones
[11:57] <fr0tzed> Its a big risk, so i would back up if i was you
[11:58] <ikonia> fuser: so at this time there is very little info on it beyond a confirmed bug,
[11:59] <SchrodingersScat> Dreamscape: realistically though if you're comfortable enough with partitions to know NOT to delete your huge FAT then you should be relatively good as far as I know.  Like don't choose 'Use the entire disk' or something silly ;(
[12:00] <Dreamscape> yeah I will be fine :) thanks for the help guys
[12:00] <fuser> ikonia: And thus: what command can I use so I don't have to use a GUI everytime?
[12:00] <ioria> fuser, btw, xrandr seems to have a --scale flag (you can try    xrandr --output myscreen --scale 1x1 )
[12:00] <ikonia> fuser: you don't use a command for this
[12:01] <ikonia> fuser: the problem is with the daemon, not the interface to the daemon
[12:01] <fuser> im not trying to fix the problem, im trying to set the scale faster
[12:01] <ikonia> fuser: I wonder if there is a way to not use the daemon, and actually hardcode it
[12:01] <ikonia> fuser: I wouldn't bet on this bug getting fixed or priority with unity being ended
[12:01] <fuser> ioria: i'll try that, thanks
[12:02] <ioria> fuser, np
[12:02] <ikonia> fuser: within the gnome-config-database there should be a few parameters that set the desktop scale settings (scale/font/etc) I wonder if you could set them manually and disable the config daemon
[12:03] <ikonia> or even, just disable the daemon, set the parameters through the gui, does that work ?
[12:03] <fuser> ikonia: what is this daemon you speak of?
[12:03] <ikonia> fuser: have you read the bug ?
[12:03] <ikonia> unity-settings-daemon
[12:04] <fuser> ahh right, yeah i get crash notifications for that
[12:04] <ikonia> ?
[12:04] <ikonia> "for that" ?
[12:04] <fuser> yeah now I know why it's resetting, I forgot that detail
[12:04] <fuser> the daemon crashes
[12:05] <fuser> it's just that I get the crash notifications at random times it seems so it wasn't correlated with the scale resetting
[12:05] <ikonia> so have you tried disabling the daemon
[12:05] <fuser> no i'll try that
[12:06] <fr0tzed> anyone knows how to set tor as default browser in liferea ?
[12:10] <fuser> (This is such a confusing time for the Linux desktop. I wish we had a good, stable, and non-controversial Desktop environment that changes little throughout the years)
[12:10] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[12:10] <ikonia> what is confusing ?
[12:10] <fuser> of course the change to Wayland is good though, imo
[12:10] <fuser> ikonia: stop being a general
[12:10] <ikonia> what ?
[12:10] <fuser> you're acting like a soldier or something
[12:11] <ikonia> no, I'm asking you what you are talking about
[12:11] <fuser> everything is changing, nothing is perfect
[12:11] <ikonia> nothing is changing
[12:11] <fuser> oh really, unity -> gnome ??
[12:11] <glitsj16> ikonia: disabling unity-settings-daemon will break unity (ubuntu) session no? At least on 16.04 that's defined in RequiredComponents
[12:11] <ikonia> unity is canonical only
[12:11] <tomreyn> a1exas: the general approach i would use is to boot from a live usb stick of the same ubuntu release and architecture, then ensure all (layered) devices are available, and to chroot into them. then replace all device paths by UUIDs (based on blkid output) in all of lvm.conf (if any), crypttab and fstab. finally run update-grub and update-initramfs and double-check that the 'root' directive in grub.cfg points to the right UUID
[12:11] <ikonia> and gnome has been around for a long long time, even in gnome 3 version
[12:11] <fuser> ikonia: and I'm here speaking on the Ubuntu channel
[12:12] <ikonia> glitsj16: I don't know, I'm asking
[12:12] <ikonia> fuser: it's hardly confusing is it ? we are dropping one of our desktops as the default (leaving the others) and making another the default, unity will still be available
[12:12] <fuser> ikonia: gnome has been radically changed and they've been rewriting gtk, which is good long term but makes things confusing today
[12:12] <ikonia> fuser: gnome 3 has been gnome 3 for many years
[12:13] <ikonia> not confusing in the slightest, at least 3 years
[12:13] <fuser> Well if you have a 4k monitor, an Nvidia card, and want something that works and isn't strange looking. Then it's hard to find something.
[12:13] <fuser> unity has worked well though
[12:13] <fuser> mostly
[12:14] <fuser> Of course once the whole Nvidia Wayland fuss is over, then things will simplify a bit.
[12:14] <ikonia> no desktop really supports high densirt pannels
[12:14] <ikonia> there is no nvidia wayland fuss ?
[12:15] <ikonia> I'm not sure what you're actually talking about
[12:15] <ikonia> there is a change that ubuntu is changing it's default desktop from unity to gnome.....thats it
[12:15] <glitsj16> fuser: would you mind checking /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session to see if unity-settings-daemon is still referenced in that file? If it is, and you're going to disable it for your scaling issue, it will most-likely break your login.. we need to confirm how that's done in 17.04.. makes sense?
[12:15] <ikonia> glitsj16: nice idea
[12:17] <fuser> ikonia: No. Everything is being radically changed and that's good but confusing during the transition. And the nvidia fuss I spoke of, is the EGLStreams vs GBM IIRC which means some Wayland desktops support Nvidia right now, others don't.
[12:17] <fuser> if you use proprietary drivers
[12:17] <ikonia> fuser: nothing is really changing, it's been a slow evolution over years
[12:17] <fuser> glitsj16: okay, one sec
[12:17] <ikonia> the wayland and nvidia inclusion has not been a problem, only really canonical had a problem, hence forking to mir
[12:18] <glitsj16> fuser: no rush, thinking about another way you could try to deal with the scaling issue in the mean time
[12:19] <fuser> glitsj16: Yeah it's referenced. "RequiredComponents=unity-settings-daemon;"
[12:19] <BluesKaj> ikonia, from what i've read nvidia has no support for wayland atm on any DE
[12:20] <ikonia> BluesKaj: the desktops just aren't using the current extension presentation
[12:22] <glitsj16> fuser: yeah, that's what i thought, still same as in 16.04.. have you tried using gsettings yet for the scaling issue? I don't know if that is the key unity-settings-daemon uses, but you would see an immediate change or not with 'gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 0'
[12:23] <fuser> glitsj16: It changes for less than a second, but goes back to what is set in the Displays settings.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> ikonia, current extension presentation? what's that mean?
[12:25] <glitsj16> fuser: okay, if you have dconf-editor installed, you could look around in the dconf db and look for a similar key with the 'unity' name instead of gnome
[12:27] <glitsj16> fuser: irritating bug damn.. i'm away from home and don't have access to a ubuntu right now, otherwise I'd have done that already
[12:29] <moriarty> https://www.forbes.com/sites/bishopjordan/2017/07/07/bitcoin-millionaire/
[12:30] <glitsj16> moriarty: why are you posting that link all over freenode? Do we look even remotely interested to meet bishop jordan?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> moriarty, enough offtopic URL posts ..not applicable to this chat
[12:30] <moriarty> he's my idol :)
[12:31] <BluesKaj> not mine ...we'r not a 'murans here
[12:31] <BluesKaj> all
[12:31] <glitsj16> that's you're party, hardly on-topic here
[12:31] <moriarty> what are 'murans?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> murcans even :-)
[12:31] <moriarty> well he is a software engineer, one would think that would be relevant
[12:31] <moriarty> ah :)
[12:32] <BluesKaj> not relevant to this support chat
[12:32] <moriarty> oh well
[12:33] <fuser> glitsj16: I don't see anything but "scaling-factor" which again resets right after you change it. It's fine, I can live with this bug.
[12:34] <glitsj16> fuser: ah well, that's how it goes sometime
[12:39] <fengshaun> has anyone been able to install android sdk on a headless 64bit ubuntu installation?
[12:40] <fengshaun> I get 'Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/xml/bind/annotation/XmlSchema' exception when I try to run sdkmanager
[12:46] <glitsj16> fuser: if you would be so kind to try one last attempt (I promise lol) .. maybe we can add to the bug report if this works.. what do you get with 'gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.interface app-fallback-to-maximum-scale-factor false'?
[12:48] <fuser> glitsj16: 'No such schema "com.canonical.Unity.interface"
[12:49] <glitsj16> fuser: thanks for the effort, I'l drop it :)
[12:49] <fuser> glitsj16: np and no you can continue if you have ideas, I learn something in the process.
[12:51] <fuser> im reading LibreOffice code myself so I can help improve it in the future :)
[12:52] <glitsj16> fuser: well, I think it's a case of finding the correct key behind the unity GUI (unity-settings-daemon). If we can track that down it should be fixable. Another possible candidate would be 'gsettings get com.ubuntu.user-interface scale-factor'..
[12:53] <glitsj16> fuser: nice :) pretty huge code-base i presume
[12:53] <fuser> yeah, im focusing on the calc/spreadsheet one
[12:53] <fuser> awfully slow app that one
[12:53] <fuser> (i know why)
[12:55] <glitsj16> seems to take forever to have a nicly working office suite on linux.. I'm happy to report being in a position not needing one anymore
[12:55] <glitsj16> *nicely
[12:57] <borivoje> is anyone a user of turtl note taking apps and api on ubuntu?
[12:57] <latenite> Hi folks, my live stick with 'Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l' fails to work after using the live system for like 8 Weeks. Now the / is full (no space left on device). But I did not save anything to it. Where did the space go. How to I free the space.?
[12:57] <latenite> btw, the / is some 'cow/ fs.
[12:57] <borivoje> do you have problems with syncing images and files with the latest api?
[12:59] <fuser> glitsj16: That one returns "{'DP-0': 16}"
[13:04] <vlt> SchrodingersScat: Ok, thank you.
[13:06] <SchrodingersScat> welcome
[13:07] <Arunangshu> how to install elementary desktop environment in ubuntu 14.04
[13:07] <SchrodingersScat> !elementary
[13:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info elementary-desktop
[13:09] <Arunangshu> so there is no way i can install
[13:10] <kDycu> Hey there, I'm hoping there's an easy fix for this-- I'm running 14.04 Lubuntu and it won't detect my ethernet connection. ifconfig only shows lo and wlan0-- no eth0
[13:10] <glitsj16> fuser: thanks, maybe if you clear that things might improve.. gsettings set com.ubuntu.user-interface scale-factor {} .. if not, try to play with the value itself, 16 in this case
[13:11] <DJones> Arunangshu: This may help, https://askubuntu.com/questions/766673/how-do-you-install-pantheon-on-ubuntu-16-04 but as its ppa's you won't get support in this channel
[13:11] <Arunangshu> i am  on ubuntu 14.04
[13:11] <kDycu> Alternatively-- I'm really only using the ethernet connection because every time I try to do do-release-upgrade over wi-fi it crashes my modem, and I have to reset it
[13:27] <Dreamscape> hello all, i have a drive with 2 partitions... can anyone point me to the correct guide to auto mount my second partition at boot? (ubuntu server 16.4 LTS)
[13:27] <ducasse> !fstab | Dreamscape
[13:28] <Dreamscape> thank you
[13:33] <Dreamscape> my partition isn't listed in fstab
[13:34] <Dreamscape> i can see it when i list drives though
[13:36] <ducasse> Dreamscape: exactly, you need to make an entry for it. those pages should document how.
[13:36] <Dreamscape> ohh ok my bad, thank you
[14:00] <Dreamscape> ok i've broken it
[14:01] <Dreamscape> :/
[14:01] <Dreamscape> why is mounting things so stupidly hard
[14:01] <immu> does any know how to stop my microphone-inbuilt levels getting reduced automatically to lower levels
[14:03] <Dreamscape> how can i edit fstab from recovery?
[14:03] <Dreamscape> its saying read only file system as root?
[14:07] <Dreamscape> can someone help me pleae
[14:07] <immu> what has happened?
[14:07] <Dreamscape> i've added my partition to fstab but now ubuntu wont boot
[14:07] <akik> Dreamscape: mount -o remount,rw /
[14:07] <Dreamscape> i'm trying to remove my entry but in recovery as root it is read only
[14:08] <immu> are you on a diff machine
[14:08] <Dreamscape> tried that, it says special disk mount is not avalible or something
[14:08] <Dreamscape> no, im doing it on the machine itself
[14:08] <immu> !fstab
[14:09] <immu> won't ubuntu find and mount the partition itself akik ?
[14:09] <immu> or from file manager?
[14:09] <Dreamscape> i've read that, it wont help as i cant get to command line or anything
[14:10] <Dreamscape> it just gets stuck loading the splash screen
[14:10] <akik> immu: he said he tried the recovery
[14:10] <Dreamscape> i need to some how remove my entry from fstab from recovery or something
[14:11] <akik> Dreamscape: it would help if you can get the complete error msg
[14:11] <immu> can you drop into console?
[14:12] <Dreamscape> how do i do that? immu
[14:12] <Dreamscape> this is a ubuntu server install so console is all i have
[14:12] <unholymachine> ctrl + alt + f2
[14:12] <Dreamscape> thanks
[14:12] <immu> ooooo
[14:13] <unholymachine> oh sorry thought you had to get to a console
[14:13] <Dreamscape> i do, i need to some how by any means get to a console so i can edit the file i screwed up so it will boot again
[14:14] <unholymachine> did the key combination take you to a console?
[14:14] <Dreamscape> no, just have a blinking _
[14:14] <unholymachine> oooohh
[14:14] <unholymachine> well then
[14:14] <unholymachine> sounds like you need to boot with grubrescue
[14:14] <unholymachine> if that's possible
[14:15] <Dreamscape> how do i do that? i can get to the command line for grub.. if thats what you mean? sorry im fairly new
[14:15] <immu> yeah i meant that grub rescuse mode
[14:15] <Dreamscape> ok yeah i can get there
[14:15] <immu> can't he run the installer again and fix it from there?
[14:16] <Dreamscape> id really rather not reinstall i've just spent ages setting this up
[14:16] <immu> not install but take a exit while reinstalling
[14:16] <immu> to console
[14:16] <immu> wait
[14:17] <unholymachine> https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/repair-linux-boot-with-grub-rescue/
[14:17] <latenite> Hi folks, my live stick with 'Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l' fails to work after using the live system for like 8 Weeks. Now the / is full (no space left on device). But I did not save anything to it. Where did the space go. How to I free the space.?
[14:17] <unholymachine> might be of some help
[14:17] <latenite> btw, the / is some 'cow/ fs.
[14:18] <immu> Dreamscape, tell me how are you accessing IRC?
[14:18] <Dreamscape> my windows machine
[14:19] <immu> oooke
[14:19] <immu> so can you reformat and load your USB again?
[14:19] <immu> with the ubuntu server ISO
[14:21] <Dreamscape> ok just fixed it, from emergency console i put "mount -w -o  remount  /" and i could then edit
[14:22] <Dreamscape> it lives again! ok... thanks for the help guys. If i give you my UUID could you write out the correct entry for me in fstab?
[14:23] <Dreamscape> it is a ntfs file system which i just want to mount at boot. its data only no OS or anything
[14:25] <immu> you are welcome Dreamscape :)
[14:27] <immu> !fstab
[14:30] <oerheks> something like this > UUID=**** /media/<mountpoint you created> ntfs defaults,uid=1000,rw  0  0
[14:31] <Dreamscape> ok thanks
[14:32] <immu> oerheks, does any know how to stop my microphone-inbuilt levels getting reduced automatically to lower levels
[14:32] <oerheks> immu in what program?
[14:32] <oerheks> skype has that leveling tool somewhere in settings
[14:32] <immu> any VOIP program i use i find the microphone levels lowering by itself
[14:33] <Dreamscape> oerheks, like this? UUID="01D2F7E2CB8DD4D0 /media/data ntfs defaults,uid=1000,rw  0  0
[14:33] <oerheks> well, what helps is lowering the output of your speakers :-D
[14:34] <oerheks> Dreamscape,  looks good
[14:34] <Dreamscape> i have not mounted this before do i need to mount it to create /media/data? or will that command do all of that
[14:34] <immu> if i speak a little louder the volume of the mic drops
[14:34] <oerheks> ... /media/<mountpoint you created>
[14:35] <oerheks> brb
[14:35] <Dreamscape> i've not created any mount point?
[14:37] <immu> give it a shot
[14:38] <Dreamscape> worked :) thank you guys greatly appreciated
[14:38] <nightwalkerkg> Hello everyone, i have an older PC i wanna install linux on. It has A10-5800K APU with no dedicated GPU. My issue is i tried all sorts of distros but most of them have subpar visual performance ( animations are laggy, scrolling is laggy, etc. ). What are my best options other then using some old version of some distro to be able to install fglrx ?
[14:39] <nightwalkerkg> Last version of ubuntu that supports fglrx is 15.x but it's not really up to date. :D
[14:40] <BluesKaj> nightwalkerkg, which desktop?
[14:40] <nightwalkerkg> BluesKaj: You mean DE ? I am fine with any.
[14:40] <nightwalkerkg> As long as it works fine and doesn't lag.
[14:41] <BluesKaj> using a lighter DE might help
[14:41] <Hulio> hi guys, i have ASUS USB N-10 Wifi, why every time it boots to desktop, i have to unplug and replug in order for it to work?
[14:41] <Hulio> is there something i can do about it?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> lxde for example
[14:41] <Hulio> having to reboot without unplugging the usb ?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> nightwalkerkg,6
[14:41] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:41] <Hulio> i have ASUS N-10 wifi usb
[14:41] <nightwalkerkg> I mean, it's not that really old of a PC. I do have a quad core 3.8GHz cpu, 8GB of DDR3 ram, etc, etc.
[14:42] <nightwalkerkg> Not really high-end.
[14:42] <nightwalkerkg> Oh, i'll give lxde a try.
[14:42] <Hulio> is there a way to have ubuntu activate wifi automatically?
[14:42] <nightwalkerkg> Any others i should look into ?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> then you're ok , use the amdgpu driver , nightwalkerkg
[14:42] <Hulio> is help on the way?
[14:46] <Hulio> anyone?
[14:47] <Hulio> my USB ASUS N10 wifi does not automatic startup when ubuntu starts
[14:47] <Hulio> i have to unplug and replug in order for it to work
[14:47] <Hulio> why is that?
[14:50] <immu> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2241067
[14:51] <Hulio> immu, u dont get it man
[14:51] <Hulio> it is working now
[14:51] <Hulio> but the problem is when i reboot ubuntu
[14:51] <Hulio> it won't start
[14:51] <Hulio> the wifi
[14:51] <immu> i read that
[14:51] <Hulio> i have to unplug then replug, then it work
[14:52] <Hulio> i am in the page
[14:52] <Hulio> but where is the session it tells the resolution
[14:53] <immu> which ubuntu version are you using?
[14:53] <immu> https://askubuntu.com/questions/456759/asus-usb-n13-wireless-adapter-problems-with-ubuntu-14-04
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Hulio, find the name of your wifi driver in the console with ip a. then run sudo modprobe nameofdriver
[14:54] <Hulio> BluesKaj, i have no idea what you want
[14:54] <Hulio> what should i type?
[14:55] <immu> can you follow console instructions
[14:55] <immu> your usb module needs to load everythime
[14:55] <Hulio> ok
[14:55] <Hulio> i'll follow now
[14:55] <Hulio> brb
[14:56] <BluesKaj> type, ip a, in the console/terminal Humbedooh
[14:57] <BluesKaj> oops he left
[14:58] <immu> he will be back
[15:12] <azizLIGHT> i have a script that runs certain commands on screen lock/unlock as my current user. the problem is that the commands it needs to run requires sudo and i dont want to enable passwordless sudo for my user. how can i get around this?
[15:19] <leftyfb> azizLIGHT: give the user access to run the command without suid privs
[15:19] <leftyfb> azizLIGHT: you can do that in sudoers
[15:20] <azizLIGHT> how is that different from enabling passwordless sudo
[15:21] <leftyfb> azizLIGHT: the password isn't necessary for only that 1 command
[15:22] <leftyfb> azizLIGHT: or give the user access to run the command by putting it into the appropriate group or change permissions on whatever you're trying to execute/write/read
[15:22] <azizLIGHT> oh thats actually nice. i bet its a bad idea to specify the script (which could later be changed), but rather it should be the actual command in the script, right
[15:22] <leftyfb> correct
[15:22] <azizLIGHT> what is this method called
[15:23] <leftyfb> azizLIGHT: https://www.garron.me/en/linux/visudo-command-sudoers-file-sudo-default-editor.html
[15:24] <leftyfb> azizLIGHT: https://askubuntu.com/questions/159007/how-do-i-run-specific-sudo-commands-without-a-password
[15:24] <leftyfb> azizLIGHT: I googled for "ubuntu sudoers command"
[15:24] <limbo_> you can't use setuid on scripts.
[15:25] <leftyfb> limbo_: good thing that's not what we're doing
[15:25] <azizLIGHT> thank you
[15:28] <BluesKaj> sudo visudo
[15:29] <Richard_Cavell> BluesKaj: That's not sudo enough for me
[15:29] <Richard_Cavell> I want super-super-super-super access to my Ubuntu
[15:29] <immu> admin access
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Richard_Cavell, su su sudio ? :-)
[15:32] <Richard_Cavell> ha ha ha
[15:32] <BluesKaj> a la Phil Collins
[15:33] <gregl> I would like to install unity to test something... I currently use Gnome on Ubuntu 16.04... Is this possible without trashing my gnome instance ?
[15:34] <oerheks> gregl, best thing is make some space, 20 gb or so, and install side-by-side
[15:34] <oerheks> or use KVM/Virtualbox ?
[15:34] <leftyfb> gregl: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop unity
[15:35] <leftyfb> it won't mess with anything
[15:35] <leftyfb> just switch your DE at login
[15:35] <oerheks> that does install a 2nd DE .. no problem, until you want to remove unity ...
[15:35] <afidegnum> hello, can anyone please help? i have courier-imap installed but on Outlook, it claimed it has logged in but can't send the mail on Thunderbird, "can't find the settings"   i have mail account at /var/vmail/info@mydomain.com
[15:35] <Dro> what packages take more spaces in ubuntu ?
[15:36] <afidegnum> when connected on the terminal i was able to send a test mail but instead of from: info@domain.com   it rather from: terminal@hostip.dns.net
[15:36] <gregl> Ok Thanks all for the suggestions..
[15:36] <leftyfb> gregl: at login, it'll look something like this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/X7bhJ.png
[15:37] <leftyfb> afidegnum: imap has nothing to do with sending email
[15:37] <oerheks> !info baobab | this gui tool can help
[15:37] <leftyfb> afidegnum: you need an SMTP service
[15:37] <gregl> leftyb: thanks for that.. I think i will give that a try..
[15:38] <afidegnum> leftyfb: i m using exim4
[15:39] <afidegnum> leftyfb: can you give me dirctives on that ?
[15:39] <afidegnum> on ubuntu 26
[15:39] <afidegnum> hey
[15:39] <afidegnum> ubuntu 16
[15:40] <leftyfb> afidegnum: There should be plenty of documentation on the subject of setting up an SMTP server with exim4. The one tip i'll give you is to make sure you are not operating an open relay in any way. Otherwise, please share the ip address of the email server here so we can block it on our mail servers to prevent receiving spam from it.
[15:42] <afidegnum> no, this is a corporate server with a single ip addres where users will communicate to their clients,
[15:42] <afidegnum> no marketing business related stuff here
[15:42] <leftyfb> afidegnum: I don't think you understand. If you do not set this server up correctly, it will be used (not by you) to send spam out at an alarming rate to the entire world.
[15:43] <leftyfb> afidegnum: an SMTP server is not something you just setup in a day, send a test email and call it good. It is the cause of a good portion of the garbage passing around the internet
[15:43] <afidegnum> leftyfb: oooh ok.. i now understand
[15:45] <leftyfb> afidegnum: if you don't already know how to do these types of things. I would suggest spending 90% of your time reading and learning how to setup an SMTP server properly (no open relay, RBL's, spamassassin, possibly clamd, fail2ban, etc), 5% of the time setting it up and 5% testing and pentesting
[15:48] <afidegnum> leftyfb: thanks,
[15:48] <afidegnum> how strong is kerberos authentication? in what instances it can be used in replacement of regular password based authetication?
[15:53] <wiggmpk> can anyone help me convert this script (or provide the desired effect) to systemd gnome-ubuntu 16.04? https://pastebin.com/H5bbBWXU I am trying to have the gnome-shell restart after resume automatically, as if I hit ALT+F2 and typed r or restart
[16:10] <neopaws> hello, i accidently hit "sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /" is there a way to restore the chown permissions?
[16:12] <leftyfb> neopaws: reinstall and restore from backup
[16:12] <leftyfb> neopaws: that is your only option
[16:15] <yao_ziyuan> running ubuntu 17.04 live dvd on a 10-point touchscreen laptop. can't launch the right-click menu by long-pressing on the screen.
[16:19] <wiggmpk> I need to be able to run a script that restarts the gnome-shell after logging back in from the lockscreen only. How can I accomplish this?
[16:24] <Hulio> the USB ASUS N10 wont automatic start when reboot
[16:24] <Hulio> no matter what i do
[16:26] <Hulio> when i do lsusb. this is what i got:
[16:26] <Hulio> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0b05:1786 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. USB-N10 802.11n Network Adapter [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[16:26] <Hulio> again, it only work when I unplug and replug
[16:26] <Hulio> can't you guy have solution for this?
[16:29] <leftyfb> wiggmpk: ctrl+f2 then type r and hit enter
[16:29] <TheSuperGeek> Hi
[16:29] <TheSuperGeek> I've got a AMD gpu which is hybrid (i have a laptot)
[16:29] <TheSuperGeek> *laptop
[16:29] <wiggmpk> leftyfb: yes, but I would like this to be automatic after logging in past the lockscreen from resume
[16:30] <TheSuperGeek> and i've got the oepnsource driver
[16:30] <TheSuperGeek> (i've got a Radeon r7 m445)
[16:30] <TheSuperGeek> and i found that :
[16:30] <TheSuperGeek> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[16:31] <TheSuperGeek> but in the more recent version (which isn't in beta, my gpu isn't supported : http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx)
[16:33] <afidegnum> i have a dedi box where i want to configure different domains with their email accounts, using dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config  how do i configure the mail sending option? internet site?  mail sent by smarthost ? or mail sent by smarthost; no local mail ?
[16:38] <ikonia> afidegnum: depends on your site/network
[16:38] <oerheks> TheSuperGeek, amdgpu <> amdgpu-pro, the pro is just a DRM blob on top of the open driver
[16:38] <oerheks> !amd
[16:39] <oerheks> contact amd to see when they support the 445
[16:41] <TheSuperGeek> oerheks, ok, it's actually a problem because i have worst performances than on windows (about 80 fps on the same game)
[16:42] <oerheks> TheSuperGeek, nothing we can do about that.
[16:42] <oerheks> 80 fps is not that bad
[16:43] <afidegnum> ikonia: well, i just want to have my central server for sending and receiving mail from-to other clietns
[16:43] <oerheks> 15 is bad :-D
[16:43] <TheSuperGeek> oerheks, actually 80 fps of differences. With the game (payday2) i have ~10 fps
[17:06] <ruicruz> hello there. quick question. what's the best way to burn an iso from an ubuntu to a usb stick while using ubuntu? It's using unetbootin?
[17:07] <ikonia> afidegnum: this suggests you're not really confident about running a mail server or understanding the core prinicipals, before going forward, I sugges more research
[17:07] <ikonia> afidegnum: the world doesn't need a badly configured mail server, especially direclty on the internet
[17:07] <TheSuperGeek> ruicruz, i recommand you a good software named etcher
[17:07] <BluesKaj> ruicruz,  use usb-creator
[17:07] <TheSuperGeek> https://etcher.io/
[17:08] <ruicruz> ok, thank you both
[17:08] <ruicruz> will try those two tools
[17:08] <ruicruz> :)
[17:17] <ikonia> afidegnum: are you using debian or ubuntu to do this ?
[17:24] <afidegnum> ikonia: debian with ajenti
[17:24] <ikonia> afidegnum: then why are you asking in #ubuntu
[17:24] <ikonia> please don't
[17:25] <afidegnum> the settings are the same that's why
[17:25] <ikonia> afidegnum: no they are not
[17:25] <ikonia> hence why there are different channels and different support resources
[17:27] <mgaunard> I ran do-release-upgrade on my work computer but left before it was complete, is there anyway I can recover that session with only a ssh connection to the machine?
[17:28] <ikonia> mgaunard: wait until you go back in on monday
[17:28] <ikonia> mgaunard: the status of whats on screen can be important
[17:28] <whoami1> hi
[17:28] <whoami1> is it the free channel of ubuntu?
[17:29] <whoami1> am trying to install IDA disassembler but not able to install that
[17:29] <mgaunard> ikonia: in the meantime my screensaver is disabled which is problematic
[17:29] <whoami1> clear
[17:29] <whoami1> quit
[17:32] <ikonia> mgaunard: and ?
[17:32] <Halleluia> minimec
[17:32] <capella> don't ever quit
[17:32] <Loshki> mgaunard: no, not unless you made arrangements for a reconnectable session before you started e.g. by running screen. However, if you can ssh into the machine, you should be able to tell if the upgrade has finished simply by running 'ps ax', and checking the upgrade log. If it ran to completion successfully, running do-release-upgrade a second time should (eventually) turn out to be a no-op.
[17:32] <Halleluia> abiQuimm
[17:32] <Halleluia> abiQuinn
[17:33] <ikonia> Halleluia: please stop that
[17:33] <mgaunard> Loshki: when I look over the Internet it suggests do-release-upgrade is supposed to be smart and run screen automatically
[17:33] <mgaunard> but I don't even have screen installed on that box
[17:33] <Halleluia> ikonia.... Yeah sure... Miss these guys
[17:33] <ikonia> Halleluia: so ?
[17:33] <Loshki> mgaunard: it seems unlikely, then
[17:33] <Halleluia> Just wanna tell em I miss em
[17:34] <mgaunard> where would I see this log
[17:34] <ikonia> Halleluia: then send them a pm - this is not a social channel, as you know
[17:34] <Halleluia> ikonia: welcome
[17:34] <mgaunard> I can see that this is still running
[17:34] <ikonia> Halleluia: ?
[17:34] <mgaunard>  /usr/bin/python3 /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-ad_bh34i/zesty --mode=server --frontend=DistUpgradeViewText
[17:34] <mgaunard> running do-release-upgrade again is a no-op
[17:41] <JustTheDoctor> is it possible to run a vnc server on my dedicated linux server for each user and let them login/utilize the vnc on there account/port at all times?
[17:44] <hfp> Hi, how can I have my caps lock remapped to esc automatically, all the time?
[17:44] <hfp> using the command line
[17:45] <Loshki> mgaunard: if the original do-release-upgrade is still running, I suggest you sit on your hands for a while
[17:48] <ikonia> hfp: why would anyone want that ?
[17:49] <mmaheu> \quit
[17:51] <hfp> ikonia: personal preference? vim user? don't want to stretch my pinky all the way to esc? never use caps lock for anything anyway?
[17:51] <ikonia> hfp: change the keyboard map then....seems very odd
[17:51] <Loshki> hfp: xmodmap, or setxkbmap. Do not use them together.
[17:52] <hfp> ikonia: to each their own, I'm not sure what your point is
[17:53] <hfp> Loshki: Thanks
[17:53] <ikonia> hfp: I just told you, change the keyboard map, and I didn't have a point, I was just stating it's an odd request
[18:13] <azizLIGHT> how do i start cron job that is @reboot but without rebooting
[18:17] <[n0mad]> azizLIGHT: just get the command from crontab and run it.
[18:23] <Saphirus> Don't suppose somebody could help me out with a problem i'm facing
[18:23] <sary> JustTheDoctor: you might be looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[18:27] <azizLIGHT> Saphirus: just ask your question
[18:27] <Saphirus> Oh okay
[18:28] <Saphirus> Sorry I didn't want to be rude or anything
[18:28] <azizLIGHT> this is a support channel. you dont have to ask to ask
[18:28] <Saphirus> Well my install has been frozeon on Detecting network hardware for a good hour or so
[18:29] <Saphirus> I'm kind of new to this stuff so theres like next to no chance of me debugging it
[18:29] <Saphirus> What makes it worse is i have the most unused system ever with no support topics
[18:29] <azizLIGHT> im no expert either so i will defer to others in the channel
[18:30] <Saphirus> alright
[18:30] <azizLIGHT> im guessing its a wifi chip
[18:31] <Saphirus> Nope
[18:31] <Saphirus> Its within the install, it's using one of its 4 NICs so
[18:32] <Saphirus> (IBM x3850 M2)
[18:32] <azizLIGHT> what version are you installing?
[18:33] <Saphirus> Let me just check, one second
[18:33] <Saphirus> Im pretty sure its the most recent version
[18:34] <Saphirus> Ubuntu Server 17.04
[18:39] <azizLIGHT> hmmm, is the install media OK? checksum matches?
[18:40] <Saphirus> Yup
[18:44] <glitsj16> Saphirus: hi, although it's an old thread https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1326678 might offer something you can try..
[18:46] <Saphirus> damn thanks
[18:46] <Saphirus> just gotta wait 10 mins for this bloody thing to reboot now
[18:47] <glitsj16> 10 min? that's plenty of time for a breather, you're probably not on your first reboot :)
[18:47] <minimec> !reisub > Saphirus
[18:48] <jiffe> so I'm trying to install npm via apt-get install, it complains that there are a number of dependencies that won't be installed, so I installed them manually via apt-get install but apt-get install npm is still failing due to the same dependencies
[18:50] <Saphirus> It likes to run like 5 system memory checks for some reason which you can not disable
[18:50] <Saphirus> its a pain but I guess its needed for 256gb of ram ;)
[19:00] <wiggmpk> how can I restart gnome-shell automatically after coming back from suspend and entering password on the lockscreen?
[19:08] <mrmajik45> hello
[19:08] <mrmajik45> ineed help
[19:10] <alias_neo> It seems that network-manager isn't running scripts in my if-down.d if I toggle the connections off anyone able to suggest a way to debug this?
[19:10] <alias_neo> I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04
[19:10] <alias_neo> Desktop
[19:11] <mrmajik45> hi
[19:11] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: Is this on a single user-system? If so, you might be able to let gnome-shell restart itself by sending it a HUP signal.. like 'killall -HUP gnome-shell'..  Trying to determine why gnome-shell needs to be restarted on resume would be more appropriate..
[19:11] <mrmajik45> i need help freeing space on /boot for an update
[19:12] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: what ubuntu version are you having the issue on?
[19:13] <mrmajik45> why won't anybody help me
[19:13] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: it is a single user-system atm, but I would like a more global solution. it is Gnome Ubuntu 16.04.2 and the reason it needs to be restarted is to work around a bug of the shell extensions changing physical location when returning from suspend. ALT+F2 and restart returns the extensions to their expected position
[19:13] <wiggmpk> !ask mrmajik45
[19:13] <alias_neo> mrmajik45: Because you're not giving enough information; how big is /boot, how much space is free, what do you need to update, how large is that, what's on /boot currently?
[19:13] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: you need to ask the question and if someone knows, they may offer help
[19:14] <wiggmpk> or I missed it lol
[19:14] <mrmajik45> waita moment
[19:14] <alias_neo> mrmajik A good place to start might be to try run apt-get autoremove to clean up old kernels if you have some
[19:15] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: I can see why you would prefer that. Very odd, the gs extensions change path? Are they installed system-wide or under your $HOME?
[19:16] <jiffe> anyone see why this isn't installing? https://pb.jiffe.com/NpeNpBCd216iUw467Tgo7n
[19:16] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I have tried adding a script to /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d to 'catch' the resume state I suppose and killall -HUP gnome-shell but it doesnt work
[19:16] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: they all installed under $HOME yes
[19:17] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I know it is pretty trivial, but the meds I take for my ADD exacerbate my OCD =P
[19:17] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: you might have better results with a systemd unit file.. hooking into the sleep
[19:17] <glitsj16> .. sleep.target
[19:17] <mrmajik45> raspberry pi 3 / ubuntu 16.04 MATE /boot TOTAL 64 mb FREE 43.2 -Needs 10 more MB for update
[19:18] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I am a complete ignorant fool when it comes to systemd. I know there was a lot of controversy from the Debian people and I never really looked into it
[19:18] <sary> Saphirus: connecting using ether or wifi! which partioning method you've chosen! .. it's been awhile since i've used the installer! are you using a usb or a cd media! which boot mode: UEFI of BIOS?
[19:18] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: are you just trying to update the system?
[19:18] <mrmajik45> yea
[19:18] <alias_neo> mrmajik45: I've never run ubuntu mate on A Pi but with most of your boot part free you shouldn't be having issues updating
[19:18] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: oh no worries, we should get along fine.. give me a minute, I'll be more detailed in that case
[19:19] <alias_neo> mrmajik45 did you run apt-get autoremove as i suggested?
[19:19] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: you are my potential lifesaver
[19:19] <IhrFussel> When I load a big file into RAM via Bash ... will the OS keep it cached until something else needs that RAM space?
[19:20] <alias_neo> IhrFussel if you're still running, it should keep it until you free it
[19:21] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: lol, the pressure is on .. I'm preparing a paste to give you an idea of how to proceed.. basically doing the same what you did using pm-utils, but for systemd
[19:21] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: that would be fantastic
[19:21] <IhrFussel> Well in my case it's a script that loads a file with cat into a variable ... but my observation is that even if the script ends the var is faster the next time I run the same script again so I think the cat content has been cached
[19:22] <alias_neo> IhrFussel try unset the variable at the end of the script
[19:22] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: did alias_neo's suggestion work to free up space?
[19:26] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: https://ptpb.pw/l1vv.service .. you'll need to adjust your username inside the file (replace foo) and save it under /etc/systemd/system/custom-sleep.service
[19:27] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: part 2 is to create 2 scripts, those you see referenced in ExecStart/ExecStop, you can adjust names and paths according to your preference, just make sure you use full paths for both
[19:29] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I'm looking forward to the oppurtunity to dabble with systemd because I am confused on the start/stop. I only need this to run after resume, after logging in past the lock screen.. what would the stop script do?
[19:31] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: yeah, it's confusing indeed.. look at this way.. when going into sleep state, systemd will execute the start command and on wake its counterpart.. the stop script should do the bit to try and restart gnome-shell.. or even better, making sure those extensions are in the location gnome-shell expects them
[19:32] <JustTheDoctor> im having a major problem. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04 if i follow that guide on ubuntu 16.04 then continue to go on.. everything i try to do works.. if i use ubuntu 17.04 i cannot get things i compile to work unless i open a terminal and type ./programname i am using ubuntu, tightvnc. now yes i can use 16.04 but i'd rather use 17.04 the problem is
[19:32] <JustTheDoctor> even when i chmod +x appname
[19:33] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: understood, so the execstop command is the meat and potatoes of what I am trying to accomplish? If so, what exactly is the start script?
[19:33] <JustTheDoctor> i have to use a terminal to ./appname  start it
[19:33] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: but you're correct, technically you don't need the start script to actually do anything, you could just exit 0 in that one, or send yourself a clue that systemd is going into sleep state
[19:33] <ewook> JustTheDoctor: ./ means more or less you don't have a path set for the binary where is sits.
[19:34] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: gotcha, I really appreciate all the info you are throwing at me. I assume this needs to be chmod a+x to run properly?
[19:34] <JustTheDoctor>  what im trying to explain is i am using a vps with ubuntu installed and installed tightvnncserv got that working
[19:35] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: well I'm also slow and have been on the other side of helping out on IRC, only natural to give some context :)
[19:35] <JustTheDoctor> i used git to clone https://github.com/justthedoctor/pandacoin and on  16.04 the compile works on 17.04 it only works if i open a terminal and type ./pandacoin-qt
[19:35] <ewook> JustTheDoctor: so, I am guessing you want it to 'autostart' ?
[19:36] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: so yes, ensure both scripts are executable, if you want, you can post the scripts and the adjusted .service file and I'll do a quick  check
[19:37] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: fantastic, I will get to work :)
[19:37] <glitsj16> :)
[19:37] <JustTheDoctor> the problem is, if i follow my guide to enable vnc on 16.04 and then i compile the app and double click it, it works.
[19:37] <JustTheDoctor> if i use 17.04 and i do the same
[19:38] <JustTheDoctor> it is not actknowlged as a executable app
[19:38] <JustTheDoctor> but if i open a terminal i type ./appname
[19:38] <JustTheDoctor> it works fine!
[19:38] <IhrFussel> alias_neo, I think we mean different things...the OS already cached the big file during the script I think since Bash automatically unsets all vars at the end of a script
[19:38] <JustTheDoctor> i want to make the 17.04 a desktop icon that i can open with out using a terminal
[19:39] <mrmajik45> hello
[19:39] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: a question .. personally I'd try to move the extensions to their proper place before trying to mess with gnome-shell itself, but that's not up to me.. do you know where they 'disappear' to?
[19:39] <mrmajik45> sorry i had to tale a shower
[19:39] <alias_neo> IhrFussel yeah, I'm suggesting unset it explicitely and see if anything changes
[19:40] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: they don't technically disappear, they are just not in the correct places... for instance my top bar is weather, clock/calendar, temp sensors... when returning from suspend it jumples the order up randomly
[19:40] <mrmajik45> so my /boot
[19:40] <alias_neo> IhrFussel I'm not sure how caching works for large files/variables in bash but I'd have thought the cache wouldn't be the variable in RAM, perhaps some other cache
[19:40] <ktosiek> I'm trying to setup LVM cache on a LUKS-encrypted SSD, but after setting up the cache my system won't boot - I'm dropped into the initrd shell, and I can't see my root partition in /dev/mapper/
[19:40] <ktosiek> how can I make this work?
[19:41] <mrmajik45> hello
[19:41] <mrmajik45> ineed help
[19:41] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: did you try "sudo apt autoremove" to clear up any unnecessary pacakges?
[19:41] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: oh I see, I was under the wrong assumption the actula files were moved somewhere else.. okay, let me regroup for a second..
[19:41] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: ok sir :)
[19:41] <mrmajik45> it can mount
[19:42] <mrmajik45> can't*
[19:42] <alias_neo> what can't mount?
[19:42] <mrmajik45> so it can't remove
[19:42] <alias_neo> please make some effort to articulate if you want help to be offered
[19:43] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: I have Ubuntu installed on my Raspberry Pi3 with the same /boot size and never ran into an issue. Trace your steps backwards, did you change something prior to running into this problem
[19:43] <mrmajik45> no
[19:44] <mrmajik45> heres what it says The upgrade needs a total of 48.2 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 5,038 k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[19:44] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: have you tried executing <sudo apt-get autoclean>
[19:45] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: what do you think of the following 'strategy' .. all the settings involved should be in your dconf datavase (that's where gnome-shell saves the info and pulls it from).. so we can dump those into a file (while having things as you prefer and expect them .. and feed that to dconf in the stop script.. that takes a bit longer, so we can just as well go for a quick 'test' and try the 'killall -HUP gnome-shell' command.. thoughts?
[19:46] <glitsj16> s/datavase/database .. no need for vases yet
[19:46] <glitsj16> :p
[19:47] <mrmajik45> it just says Reading package lists... Done
[19:47] <mrmajik45> Building dependency tree
[19:47] <mrmajik45> Reading state information... Done
[19:48] <mrmajik45> um
[19:48] <mrmajik45> wiggmpk?
[19:48] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: well I'm not sure, which would be the most effective.. every time I killall -HUP gnome-shell or use the ALT+F2 to restart, it returns to the correct position
[19:49] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: try <sudo apt-get autoremove --purge>
[19:50] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: lets try that route .. I'll wait for you to finish the scripts, and then you need to enable the added systemd custom-sleep.service.. after that you can do a first sleep/resume test
[19:50] <mrmajik45> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:50] <mrmajik45>   apt-clone* archdetect-deb* dpkg-repack* gir1.2-json-1.0*
[19:50] <mrmajik45>   gir1.2-timezonemap-1.0* gir1.2-xkl-1.0* grub-common* libdebian-installer4*
[19:50] <mrmajik45>   libparted-fs-resize0* libtimezonemap-data* libtimezonemap1* os-prober*
[19:50] <mrmajik45>   python3-icu* python3-pam* rdate*
[19:50] <mrmajik45> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 15 to remove and 265 not upgraded.
[19:52] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: remove them and then try to run the upgrade
[19:52] <mrmajik45> removed something IDK
[19:52] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: that command will remove packages that you don't use and their config files
[19:53] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: you can enable a systemd service with the systemctl interface.. 'sudo systemctl enable custom-sleep.service' is the way to do achieve that (after ensuring that custom-sleep.service file is in /etc/systemd/system)
[19:54] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: awesome, wasn't sure on that
[19:56] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I'm going to test it out now
[19:56] <mrmajik45> still
[19:56] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: I'll brb
[19:56] <mrmajik45> The upgrade needs a total of 48.2 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 5,038 k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[19:57] <glitsj16> o.o .. I hope wiggmpk returns in one piece
[19:57] <mrmajik45> yea
[19:58] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: so it definitely executes.....
[19:58] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: that's a start..
[19:58] <mrmajik45> hey
[19:58] <mrmajik45> still
[19:58] <mrmajik45> The upgrade needs a total of 48.2 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 5,038 k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[19:59] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: but I need it to happen after the lockscreen login because they are still jumbled
[19:59] <wiggmpk> mrmajik45: so when I asked that you use "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge" did you select Y and hit enter?
[19:59] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: I don't mind you continuing to help mrmajik45.. in the mean time I can try to figure that out and report back
[19:59] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: thank you so much sir
[20:00] <mrmajik45> yeah
[20:01] <sary> mrmajik45: you need to remove a at least one old kernel from /boot , # read carefuly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels#Safely_Removing_Old_Kernels
[20:01] <wiggmpk> sary: shouldn't autoremove take care of that though?
[20:02] <ktosiek> can I use LVM with PVs on multiple LUKS devices?
[20:02] <mrmajik45>  Read in detail raspberry pi 3 / ubuntu 16.04 MATE /boot TOTAL 64 mb FREE 43.2 -Needs 10 more MB for update
[20:04] <mrmajik45> synaptic
[20:08] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: do you use the 'built-in' locking/unlocking facility of GNOME?
[20:09] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: yes? whatever was default. I close the lid, it suspends, I open it, it's locked
[20:11] <sary> wiggmpk: To the best of my knowledge sudo apt-get autoremove will remove old, unneeded kernels only in versions 16.04 and above!
[20:13] <wiggmpk> sary: he is running Ubuntu on a Raspberry Pi 3, if that makes a difference. Unless he got the Pi3 at launch, 16.04 LTS would have been available to him
[20:16] <mrmajik45> i have 16.04 LTS
[20:16] <wiggmpk> so I just checked my Pi3, apparently I'm using Raspbian not Ubuntu
[20:19] <remitorl> hi
[20:20] <remitorl> I can't play videos properly on the sites? what's the reason?
[20:20] <ktosiek> remitorl: any examples? What browser?
[20:21] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: fine, lets try adding a sleep delay in the stop script, like 4 seconds (which you can change later on if it works)
[20:21] <ktosiek> BTW is there anyone who knows how the booting process for 16.04 works?
[20:21] <remitorl> ff ktosiek
[20:21] <remitorl> what do i needd to install? earlier they were workign fine.
[20:21] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: this is to try to get your resume sequence like you want it
[20:22] <ktosiek> I have my root partition on LVM, but it's not being found
[20:22] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: so would I have to get past login/lock screen within 4 seconds of resume?
[20:22] <sary> ktosiek: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man7/boot.7.html
[20:22] <ktosiek> remitorl: depends on what you are missing, and that in turn depends on what the site uses for videos
[20:23] <ktosiek> it might be flash or video codecs
[20:23] <remitorl> yeah , maybe. so how do I install them "both"
[20:23] <remitorl> I am on xenial
[20:23] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: I'm actually not sure this will work.. but that's the idea yes.. the delay will start counting *after* you've entered the unlock pw, so adjust it to something longer in fact
[20:24] <ktosiek> sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin for flash (restart the browser after this), and if that won't I'm not really sure
[20:24] <remitorl> I am accessing via a proxy site. kproxy
[20:25] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: my bad, a bit confused by the sequence you need.. try with a large enough delay to test it
[20:25] <remitorl> earlier it was working... I don't know how to figure out the reason why it's not.
[20:26] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: so... something like this https://pastebin.com/pJXULqbm
[20:26] <ktosiek> remitorl: kproxy hopefully doesn't impact this
[20:26] <mrmajik45> um where to get synaptic
[20:26] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: correct
[20:27] <remitorl> yeah, that's my problem. and ubuntu is full of noobs, so can't seek advanced advise on how to "figure out the cause"
[20:27] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I'll give it a shot, brb
[20:27] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: a bit irritating that you need to drop out of irc when testing, but no way around that
[20:27] <remitorl> then only can I rectify it
[20:29] <ktosiek> sary: that doesn't seem to mention initrd at all :-C
[20:29] <ktosiek> remitorl: do you know what's used for video?
[20:30] <ktosiek> is it an html5 video, or a flash-based player?
[20:30] <ktosiek> can you check the console?
[20:30] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: the delay works, provided I get logged in fast enough
[20:30] <ktosiek> I mean, FF's console
[20:31] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: nice, if you can live with it, let it sleep for 30secs or for as long as you want
[20:31] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: is there no "event" that handles a login from a lockscreen? I feel like the sleep delay is just a dirty hack and totally dependent on my ability to have an attention span for 15 seconds lmfao
[20:31] <mrmajik45> please alt+
[20:32] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: you're absolutely right its a crude hack.. :p
[20:32] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: but I don't know of such an event
[20:32] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I mean it works.. so I am happy and grateful especially for being introduced to systemd
[20:33] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I may just move the extensions to be system installed instead of user installed.. not sure if my gnome-extension for chromium would sync updates though
[20:34] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: I'll dig around in my notes and do a bit of searching for a less hackish way to tackle this
[20:34] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: in any event, thank you so much for allowing me to be lazier than I need to be :)
[20:35] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: that won't change things I think, I wrongly assumed in the beginning of our thread that the location was refering to the file system, but nothing stops you from trying that ofcourse :)
[20:36] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I understand, I have seen my specific issue mentioned a few times with gnome-shell users but not actual work around
[20:37] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: I had a similar issue with the tray icons not showing up on resume, that's why I started to dig around for a way to get it going
[20:38] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I read a month or so back that Ubuntu is planning on ditching Unity and using Gnome as the default again, is that true?
[20:38] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: let's hope these things get sorted when ubuntu goes into all-out support for gnome-shell in the future
[20:38] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: hell yeah
[20:38] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: yes that's going to happen, work is already underway
[20:38] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: seems like a sensible move
[20:39] <kristian_on_linu> hi all
[20:39] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: for me it sure does, although I liked unity/compiz also
[20:40] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I tried 17.04 and definitely loved the night time auto-adjust brightness and of course being able to use an updated gnome-shell but couldn't get bumblebee to work properly :/
[20:40] <kristian_on_linu> trying to update poppler ... using the second answer here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/781552/how-to-install-the-latest-version-of-poppler
[20:40] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: anyway, I'm getting off-topic
[20:40] <kristian_on_linu> however, I get the dreaded glib errors: "Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.41' but version of GLib is 2.40.2" and so forth
[20:41] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: well no, graphics drivers are a very big part of it.. never used bumblebee though
[20:42] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I love it, bumblebee saves my battery power and cuts down on heat
[20:42] <kristian_on_linu> so far, I've had no luck in updating glib ... please advise
[20:43] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: I'm still on one of those older nvidia GPU's, not a hybrid system
[20:44] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/07/07/ubuntu-desktop-weekly-update-july-7-2017/ .. might be of interest if you haven't seen it already
[20:46] <akik> what is the amazon launcher mentioned in that post?
[20:46] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I maybe have to throw it in a VM and take another peek
[20:47] <Hulio> hi, i want to do vnc to ubuntu
[20:47] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: good idea, things seem to be steaming along, on several fronts
[20:47] <Hulio> what do i need?
[20:47] <Hulio> does ubuntu has realvnc?
[20:47] <wiggmpk> akik: I would assume something in Unity that is being migrated to Gnome
[20:47] <Hulio> i really want to remote  in
[20:48] <Hulio> can someone show me how to install realvnc server on ubuntu?
[20:48] <Hulio> i do need to access it
[20:48] <wiggmpk> Hulio: I believe Ubuntu uses vino by default
[20:48] <Hulio> how to setup
[20:48] <Hulio> how to setup port and such
[20:48] <Hulio> i used to do it in realvnc for windows
[20:49] <wiggmpk> Hulio: for LAN or WAN access?
[20:50] <Hulio> LAN if okay
[20:50] <Hulio> does not matter
[20:50] <Hulio> lset say for lan for now
[20:50] <Hulio> i can always VPN to my router to have LAN
[20:50] <glitsj16> akik: I don't know the deal on the amazon launcher, but unity had that by default so I assume devs are working out a way to give it a recognizable spot in the future gnome session
[20:51] <wiggmpk> Hulio: "sudo apt install vino" should already be installed, then "vino-preferences" should be enough to get you starteed
[20:52] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: seems like a lot of effort just for a launcher, either someone really loves Amazon or perhaps they paid for a spot in the OS
[20:52] <Hulio> wiggmpk, how to access from client?
[20:52] <akik> i just wish the default amazon lens wouldn't be activated again
[20:52] <Hulio> with VNC viewer ?
[20:52] <Hulio> wiggmpk, can it be accessed with VNC viewer?
[20:52] <wiggmpk> Hulio: it should be able to be, just type in the LAN address of the client you want to reach
[20:53] <Hulio> ok
[20:53] <wiggmpk> Hulio: example.... 192.168.1.125
[20:53] <Hulio> ok thanks
[20:53] <wiggmpk> lemme know if it works
[20:54] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: if you bet on the latter I guess you're not far from the truth.. now I'm getting off-topic.. as long as there's a way for a user to make an informed choice I have learned to live with those things..
[20:54] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I have a strange issue where sometimes when I save a picture from the internet (JPG or PNG), when it is displayed it has a 3D shadow effect on the lower and right hand side.  Then when I try to use it as a folder or program icon, it has the border effect.  Any way to remove that?
[20:55] <glitsj16> akik: maybe in #ubuntu+1 someone knows about what's going to happen with the lenses
[20:56] <mrmajik45> i
[20:56] <mrmajik45> hi
[20:56] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I get what you're saying. Ubuntu, being the "latest and greatest" really is what turned me on to Linux in the first place. I tried Debian which has it's place. Preinstalled commercial applications is no big deal, as long as they can be completely removed without causing dependency issues
[20:56] <Hulio> wiggmpk, don't work,  at the vnc viewer:  the authentication mechanism requested cannot be provided by the computer
[20:57] <mrmajik45> you should linux mint
[20:57] <mrmajik45> try*
[20:57] <wiggmpk> Hulio: you are using a Windows machine to access it?
[20:57] <Hulio> no
[20:57] <Hulio> android phone
[20:57] <wiggmpk> interesting
[20:57] <Hulio> and android connect from home
[20:57] <Hulio> its lan
[20:57] <wiggmpk> Hulio: try changing this "gsettings set org.gnome.Vino require-encryption false" on the target client
[20:57] <Jonii> Hello
[20:58] <Jonii> I'd like to know why on Ubuntu 17.04(not on any prior version) with two monitors, the window spread-out when clicking on icon on launcher doesn't work when program has windows open in two separate monitors
[20:58] <Hulio> wiggmpk, it works now
[20:58] <Hulio> why is that?
[20:58] <Jonii> Works just dandy if it's all just on one monitor
[20:59] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: I'm more worried by the state nad evolution of web browsers.. getting more and more a locked-in feeling these days.. and jumping thru all kinds of hoops isn't exactly funny all the time, just my 2cents though
[20:59] <Jonii> Also worked just fine on all prior Ubuntu versions
[20:59] <glitsj16> s/nad/and
[20:59] <wiggmpk> Hulio: I am not sure if I am correct, but from what I understand vino advertises a security type 18 which is TLS and VNC viewer does not support it
[21:00] <Hulio> ok then
[21:00] <Hulio> thanks btw
[21:00] <wiggmpk> Hulio: you're welcome
[21:01] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: I understand where you are coming from, I like having flexibility and choice instead of just the lesser of evils as an option
[21:06] <glitsj16> wiggmpk: ah well, I wish I could code enough to actually try to be part of something user-centric than complaining on the way the world works .. not there yet .. I need afood break.. was very nice meeting you here, have a nice rest of the weekend :)
[21:06] <wiggmpk> glitsj16: you as well sir, thank you once again for your help. :)
[23:22] <SleePy> Why can't I find out what is causing the motherboard to beep.  Its really annoying that it randomly beeps and I can't find any logs indicating why
[23:23] <ikonia> SleePy: beeps ?
[23:24] <SleePy> The the post beep.  The system doesn't have any speakers hooked up to it, its coming from the onboard speaker used by the bios for post.
[23:24] <ikonia> when is it beeping ?
[23:24] <SleePy> Right now.  Randomly.  Just did it about 5 times about every 3-5 minutes.  Been quiet for a few minutes now
[23:25] <ikonia> have you looked up what the beep codes mean ?
[23:25] <ikonia> maybe talk it through with the guys in ##hardware
[23:25] <neopaws> i accidently hit chown -R www-data:www-data / on my server :( and i am trying to backup my files before i reinstall my server
[23:25] <neopaws> the problem is i need to export my mysql data..
[23:25] <neopaws> how can i force mysql to start so i can export it
[23:26] <ikonia> work through the permissions mysql will need
[23:26] <ikonia> binary, logfiles, configfile, temp files, socket file
[23:26] <ikonia> that should be enough to start it
[23:26] <neopaws> and who should own those? root:root?
[23:26] <ikonia> depends on the config
[23:27] <ikonia> you could also manually start it with mysql --arguments
[23:27] <ikonia> and point at safe locations
[23:27] <ikonia> or just take the database files raw
[23:27] <SleePy> ikonia: It doesn't seem to correspond to any beep codes I am aware of.  if it did it would be a beep code of 1.
[23:27] <neopaws> how can i take em raw?
[23:27] <ikonia> SleePy: are you sure it's not the terminal beep being played through the speaker ?
[23:27] <ikonia> neopaws: just take the database files
[23:28] <ikonia> put them on the new host and start the database up
[23:28] <SleePy> I'm sure of that.  I'm SSH into the device, but no console is in use
[23:28] <neopaws> ikonia: where are they saved though?
[23:28] <ikonia> neopaws: /var/lib/mysql ?
[23:33] <oerheks> SleePy, look for the vendor of the bios, post-beepcodes surely mean something. many mobos have their own tiny warningspeaker.
[23:35] <SleePy> oerheks: ASRocks B85 Pro4.  post beep codes generally follow a format of long-short or a short pause between them.  Its usually minutes between a single beep.
[23:35] <oerheks>  AMI UEFI Legal BIOS
[23:41] <oerheks> that combo does not exist in this document, long-short. http://www.bioscentral.com/beepcodes/amibeep.htm