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wiggmpkThe default backup solution in Gnome Ubuntu is Deja Dup, yes?00:05
[n0mad]yeah00:06
wiggmpk[n0mad]: are you familiar with it? I have never used it, wondering if it creates an image? much like a nandroid backup with Android Devices00:08
[n0mad]not overly familiar with it. i haven't used it in a little while but no, it's not like a nandroid00:08
[n0mad]it backs up what you tell it to back up and omits what you tell it to omit00:09
[n0mad]primarily good for backing up your user data so that if you have to reinstall you can easily restore your user data00:09
[n0mad]that's the impression I get from it anyways00:09
wiggmpk[n0mad]: I see, so if I already have a separate /home partition it would be pretty redundant?00:10
wiggmpkunless of course the disk fails =P00:10
[n0mad]yes, that's my impresssion00:10
wiggmpk[n0mad]: if I used it to backup just my /home/user directory, excluding anything large, it should restore configs like shell extensions, shortcuts, all that jazz?00:12
[n0mad]yes, anything that is in the include00:13
wiggmpk[n0mad]: thanks mate00:13
[n0mad]no problem00:13
neopawsin order to copy files from serverA to serverB do i type: rsync -azh /local/path/file user@serverB.com:/remote/path/file on the serverA?00:29
neopawsdo i run the rsync command on serverA?00:30
[n0mad]neopaws: i'm no rsync expert and actually just told myself i need to figure it out but your example above seems to match what is indicated on the man page screenshot i was looking at00:33
[n0mad]and yes, you'd want to run that from server a to push to server b00:34
koffelanyone using a Ceton InfiniTV 4 ?00:51
leftyfbkoffel: are you conducting a survey?00:52
koffelno just wonderning00:54
sebsebseb!ot00:54
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:54
koffelleftyfb they say it supported by ubuntu00:57
koffelthat why i am asking00:57
null_r3fCan anyone help me understand what software creates the “display” in the “-display :0” parameter for x11vnc? After changing to the Nvidia proprietary driver my x11vnc server is failing to start at boot. Error references being unable to open “display :0"01:13
oerhekskoffel, Linux is not a supported operating system for InfiniTV, but they provide drivers http://cetoncorp.com/infinitv_support/linux_drivers/ and mythtv did support the card https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Ceton_InfiniTV_401:15
oerheksnull_r3f, why not just reinstall x11vnc server? that would do the trick i guess01:17
null_r3foerheks: I think this is a configuration issue, not install issue. I had to configure the program to start at boot myself01:18
oerheksdid you install nvidia in this session? never restarted vnc?01:19
oerheksbtw configuration issue could be fixed as you use a different device driver01:20
null_r3fI installed the Nvidia prop driver through a VNC session, then rebooted01:21
null_r3foerheks: I’d like to understand how linux boots and creates this “device :0” abstraction though. Somehow installing the nvidia driver stopped creating that or created it in a different way than expected01:22
thatlizdudehello, my FAT32 external hard drive isn't showing up on Ubuntu, what can I do?01:30
PipeItToDevNullthatlizdude, it it not showing up as a device at all, or just not in your file manager?01:31
thatlizdudei'm new to Ubuntu, it's not in the file manager01:32
thatlizdudeit's a fresh install of Ubuntu01:32
thatlizdudeam i supposed to install some package to show FAT32?01:33
PipeItToDevNullThat is native  to Ubuntu01:33
PipeItToDevNullDo "lsblk" in a terminal01:33
PipeItToDevNullHow many drives are in the PC01:34
thatlizdudeoh wait01:35
thatlizdudenow it gave me error message when i plugged it in01:35
thatlizdudeunrecognized 'exfat' format01:35
thatlizdudei guess it's formatted as exfat01:37
oerheksoh, exfat, sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils # and restart your filemanager and plug in the hdd01:37
oerheksubuntu is not allowed to include the driver :-(01:37
PipeItToDevNullDoes Ubuntu not have native exfat support?01:37
PipeItToDevNullWeird01:37
oerheksyes it does, but not OOTB01:37
PipeItToDevNullYay Microsoft01:37
oerheks!info exfat-fuse01:37
ubottuexfat-fuse (source: fuse-exfat): read and write exFAT driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-2 (zesty), package size 30 kB, installed size 78 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)01:37
oerhekshttps://www.howtogeek.com/235655/how-to-mount-and-use-an-exfat-drive-on-linux/01:38
thatlizdudethank you!!!01:40
thatlizdudeprobably stupid question, but how do you restart the file manager?01:40
oerheksthat beautifull red button with an X01:40
thatlizdudeoh just close it, ok :D01:41
thatlizdudethanks01:41
oerhekshave fun01:41
sebsebseb 01:45
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cncr04sanyone in here help me with a sfp+ 10gig setup?02:55
cncr04scard to card via sfp+ cable, can't talk to the other02:56
cncr04scan't figure this out02:56
sebsebsebcncr04s:  lt02:56
sebsebsebcncr04s: not sure your issue quite, but try ##linux more active there currently than here02:56
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bombShould I install 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu on a low-memory (<4GB) PC?02:57
sebsebsebbomb: how much ram?02:58
bombsebsebseb: 1 gig02:59
sebsebsebbomb: I have done 64bit on  1gb i belive02:59
sebsebseblap top but02:59
sebsebsebnet book but03:00
bomb32-bit seems to be the obvious choice, but I'd like to know if I can still benefit from 64-bit03:00
sebsebsebbut if I remember correctly with less than 4gb  ram03:00
sebsebsebbetter off with 32bit apparnatly03:00
sebsebsebbomb: you might be able to a bit still03:00
sebsebsebbut probably not by much03:00
bombhmm03:00
sebsebsebbomb: could ask in ##linux for other opinions, its more active there right now03:01
sebsebseband your question is general03:01
sebsebsebnot distro spedcific03:01
bombah, thanks03:01
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sebsebseb 03:55
blackdalekDoes anyone here know how to use remmina remote desktop? I want to get remote desktop access to another computer on my LAN.04:02
sebsebsebblackdalek: maybe in ##linux this channel isn't as active currently as it once was hmmm it seems04:05
sebsebsebin recent days04:05
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thatlizdudehello, I was creating a Plex media sever, and it didn't load any of my files, and I think that it is because of permission issues, did anyone here encounter this?04:27
kDycuHey, so I just upgraded to 16.04 from 14, and I guess we don't run scripts on startup through init.d?04:28
kDycusooo how do I go about that now?04:28
Bashing-omkDycu: See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers :)04:31
vbotkakDycu, you might want to take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers04:32
pandoxerGuys, I'm looking to install Ubuntu alongside with Win10 but it seems quite a pain to remove it after (requires Win instalation media and some more work to remove it from the EFI menu). What I am going to do can't be done on a VM (requires GPU). So what are my options here? I know wubi's not a thing anymore, and that what I'd use a couple years ago04:32
kDycuahh thanks, I'll take a look at that. It took me way too long to figure out in the first place why all of my stuff was broken now!04:33
pandoxerAm I in the wrong channel for this?04:35
l1Ll1Ll1Lpandoxer if you are just going to remove ubuntu after you are done, why not just boot from live media for whatever you need to do?04:40
pandoxerI don't think I can manage to install GPU drivers in a live session04:41
pandoxerI'll check this, actually04:42
l1Ll1Ll1Lcheck this out https://askubuntu.com/questions/519109/how-to-boot-a-live-system-with-proprietary-ati-drivers-fglrx04:42
l1Ll1Ll1Llooks like you should be able to!04:43
pandoxersick! my flashdrive is not very big though. But I think this can do the trick04:44
l1Ll1Ll1Lsweet, good luck04:46
pandoxer"The propriety drivers will not work with persistence, you need a custom iso, initrd really." first comment on that answer :(04:47
l1Ll1Ll1Lhmm. tjat04:47
l1Ll1Ll1L*that's lame04:47
pandoxerand ubuntu builder was discontinued04:48
pandoxerdamn04:48
l1Ll1Ll1Ltry manjaro live, that can boot with proprietary drivers04:48
l1Ll1Ll1Lunless for some reason you absolutely need ubuntu04:48
pandoxerI think it's gotta be ubuntu. Those machine learning frameworks are quite unreliable on other distros04:51
pandoxerMaybe I should just do a regular ubuntu install then and figure out an easier way to remove after04:52
lotuspsychjel1Ll1Ll1L: please dont suggest manjaro in the ubuntu channel04:52
l1Ll1Ll1Lfeel free to suggest a method of booting ubuntu live with proprietary drivers then lotuspsychje... I love ubuntu, but if someone has a problem I can help them solve with a different tool I won't pretend it doesn't exist.04:54
lotuspsychjel1Ll1Ll1L: if you dont know, other might be able to help and avoid suggesting other distro's04:55
l1Ll1Ll1Lthen be that other04:55
l1Ll1Ll1Llinux isn't a competition :)04:56
l1Ll1Ll1Lin any case pandoxer you should be able to delete ubuntu and leave grub when you are done04:57
ruicruzhello there. I am trying to put a original windows 10 iso on a flash drive and using unetbootwin, but it takes only 5 seconds to create and does not copy the iso. is there any other way to create a bootable usb disk witha windows iso on ubuntu?04:57
l1Ll1Ll1Lthat shouldn't be too difficult to figure out I'd think, best of luck04:57
pandoxerI'd like to keep the original windows boot loader though, l1Ll1Ll1L04:57
pandoxerBut it shouldn't be too hard. Even though it seems I'll need a recovery drive regardless04:57
l1Ll1Ll1Lyeah that I can't help you with, my only Windows' I keep well contained in their little VMs04:58
l1Ll1Ll1Lactually that makes me think of another option, you could always use another hard drive if you have one lying around04:58
pandoxerGood suggestion, but sadly Idon't04:59
l1Ll1Ll1Lblast and damnation.04:59
lotuspsychje!winsub | ruicruz05:01
lotuspsychje!winusb | ruicruz05:02
ubotturuicruz: WinUSB is a tool for preparing bootable Windows Instalation USBs. Please see http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html for instructions on installation and use. #ubuntu does *not* provide support for this tool, so please do not ask for help here if it doesn't work for you.05:02
ruicruzthanks lotuspsychje. was reading about it on ask ubuntu just now. thanks for the tip.05:02
pandoxeranyway. Here I go. Have a good one guys!05:05
l1Ll1Ll1Lyeah good night and good luck!05:05
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kDycuCan you autostart graphical program on boot through upstart? I'm not sure if my script is just crap or if I'm trying to do something that simply doesn't work05:37
donughtwhat de are you running?05:38
kDycuTechnically Lubuntu 16, but it's quite mangled at this point05:38
donughtdoesnt lxde have autostart settings05:39
donughtahh LXsession can do that for you05:39
donughtjust add a .desktop file to ~/config/autostart05:40
donughtopps ~/.config/autostart05:40
daxoridIs there any way to get the include files along with the libs in libboost-all-dev ?05:48
daxoridIt'05:48
daxorids installing the actual libraries, but no include files05:49
daxoridI'm unable to find any reason via google that libboost-all-dev wouldn't install the include files.05:54
ruicruzlotuspsychje any alternatives on winusb out there? site is not updates since 2014 and i dont think I can install  this on my 16.04 ubuntu, I got always no such package05:58
ruicruzI just want to burn a windows iso on a usb flash drive :p05:58
donughtyou can use dd05:59
donughtbut its involved05:59
donughtis it a uefi windows iso?06:00
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cchahello, I installed 16.04. is it normal that network-manager is not installed ?08:02
ikoniaccha: it should be installed by default08:04
ikoniayou installed ubuntu (not kubuntu/xubuntu etc)08:04
ikoniaccha: how are you verifying network manager is not installed08:04
cchaIn fact I don't really care about NM. I want for ipv6 link local not eui64 but random one08:04
cchaI don't have network08:04
ikoniawhat do you mean you don't have network08:04
cchawhen untill I setup ipv608:04
cchaI don't want to have network before I setup correctly ipv608:05
ikoniahow are you verifying you don't have network manager installed ?08:05
cchaMy 1st step I need to not let link local to have the eui6408:05
ikoniahow are you verifying you don't have network manager installed ?08:06
cchaI read to not have eui64 need NM08:06
cchahttp://vk5tu.livejournal.com/57160.html08:06
ikoniano08:06
ikoniahow are YOU verifying you don't have network manager installed08:06
cchaun  network-manager08:07
ikoniaun network-manager ?08:07
cchaabout dpkg -l network-manager08:07
ikoniawhat does that mean08:07
ikoniaccha: have you installed ubuntu 16.04 desktop media08:08
cchayes I have the media08:08
cchaI mount it08:08
ikoniano08:09
ikoniahave you INSTALLED ubuntu 16.04 desktop install08:09
cchanot deskto08:09
cchaserver version08:09
ikoniaccha: right, so thats important to state08:09
ikoniaccha: can you do "nmcli"08:10
cchaThe program 'nmcli' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:08:10
cchaapt install network-manager08:10
ikoniaccha: ok, so there is your answer,08:10
cchabut Do I really need NM for ipv6 not uei64 for link locla?08:11
cchaI don't find how to change the auto generate ipv6 link local08:12
asr77https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.508:50
asr77are all these download links dead or is it just me?08:51
cfhowlettjust you08:52
asr77i knew that was coming.. :(08:52
asr77any chance you could download it and send it to me?08:53
cfhowlettseveral versions are available.  ubuntu 32 or 64?08:53
asr77i get download failed straight away08:53
asr77ubuntu 64-bit please08:53
cfhowlettasr77, try this in your terminal:  wget https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/17.04/main/pool/main/i/intel-graphics-update-tool/intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.5_amd64.deb08:54
asr77that seems to have worked, thanks!08:55
ikoniaI strongly advise you not to use that tool08:56
cfhowlettikonia, ???08:56
ikoniawhat's ?08:56
cfhowlettwhich tool do you speak of?08:57
ikoniathe intel-graphics-update-tool08:57
asr77why?08:59
ikoniabecause it pulls software direct from the internet outside of the package manager, and when the components it's updating/depend-alongside are managed via the package manager, this is not a situation I believe you should want to be in09:00
asr77oh it probably won't work anyway, i was going to try it on a live cd with no internet connection09:00
ikoniait also pulls components that are "generic" and not tested with the specific versions of components that ubuntu ship, and with it not being managed via the package manager, this can make it troublesome to roll back09:01
ikoniathe livecd is already running, how do you expect it to update something thats already running (your X server)09:01
asr77i know the update won't be perminant, i just need to test it works09:02
ikoniano09:04
ikoniahow do you actually expect it to update the running X server...09:04
asr77i'm hoping it'll give me a screen resolution that's useable09:05
ikoniahow do you actually expect it to update the running X server...09:05
ikoniathe X Server is running, the intel components are loaded in it....how can you update it while it's running09:06
ikoniaasr77: have you got a problem with your resolution ?09:06
asr77can i restart x server?09:07
asr77i need to rotate the screen 90 degrees, but the screen isn't recognised09:07
ikoniaasr77: it sounds like you need to state your problem and see if will people will help you, rather than stating the fix you are trying to do09:08
ikoniastate as much info as clearly as possible, and see if someone in the channel will help09:08
asr77hmm on forums people usually like you to state what you've tried before going in with a problem which could be simple to fix09:08
ikoniaeg: I'm using ubuntu 16.04, with an intel 915 card, I'm trying to run a 1024x720 display in portrait mode, but my display is not visible in the resolution tool09:09
ikoniaasr77: there is nothing wrong with trying stuff, but it strikes me as you have not thought this through09:09
ikoniaasr77: what makes you think this will fix it (more so when you don't really know what it does or how to use it)09:09
asr77it's the first thing i'm trying.. i've overcome a lot of obstacles just to get it to boot up..09:10
ikoniaright, but it seems quite random and not really thought out or understood09:11
ikoniaup to you, just seems better to ask for help with the problem, rather than asking for help how to do a random fix that you don't really understand or have any reason to think will do anything09:11
asr77well i'm learning as i go, that's how we all learn isn't it?09:11
sobersabrehi. Is there a way to automagically manage resolutions of various external/built-in displays your laptop may connect to?09:11
ikoniano09:11
ikoniaasr77: doing random things isn't learning as you go, it's just that, random things09:11
ikoniasobersabre: xorg should detect your displays and adjust appropriate09:12
sobersabreI am running from customer to customer, and some give me 4k reso, some fhd, etc. and each display has different ppi, so ... it should be something that can remember.09:12
ikoniasobersabre: it should detect and configure them as you plug them in09:12
asr77how is downloading a graphics update tool to fix a graphics related problem a "random thing" ?09:13
ikoniaasr77: you don't even know how it works, you don't know the problem, and you don't know how to use it09:13
ikoniaasr77: so it's random09:13
asr77how do you know what i know? are you psychic now?09:14
ikoniaasr77: because you told me earlier09:14
asr77a very brief outline09:14
ikoniano you where going to try it on a machine with no internet connection09:15
ikoniaif you knew how it worked/what it did - you wouldn't have been doing that09:15
asr77maybe i'll give it an internet connection later, i'll see how it goes..09:15
ikoniayou're just doing random things09:16
ikoniaI'll leave you to it09:16
asr77have a great day :)09:16
ikoniayou should work through and understand the problem though if you want to learn09:16
ikoniarather than just clicking/hitting random things09:16
minimecasr77: So... what do you really want. As I understand you have a INtel GPU and you want to rotate the screen. Also it seems that your not happy with the default resolution. Is that correct?09:21
sobersabrethe problem is the sizes of the fonts as of now are given in PIXELS.... anyways, I think the computer  enough information to determine and adjust sizes, etc. but I have yet seen this actually working.09:25
sobersabreI'm using pretty standard laptops (mainly thinkpads T4xx and up)09:25
sobersabreikonia: I have noticed 1-2 setups usually work, but more do not. I don't have the time to research too much.09:26
minimecsobersabre: The easiest way is probably to create a script for each client with some xrandr commands. You would then be able to just launch the script, once you need it. For scaling, you could do something similar as 'xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 1.5x1.5'09:30
cfhowlett!ping10:27
ubottupong!10:27
BluesKajHi all10:40
samgoodyMy web server issues variuos shell commands such as to image magick using exec in php10:51
samgoodyis there a way to see all the last commands issued by the web server in bash?10:52
hanmac do-release-upgrade says that it can't upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04, any idea what i can do to make it working? i think the unity packages and other stuff are the problem10:52
ikoniasamgoody: it doesn't issue them via a shell normally10:52
cfhowletthanmac, paste the error messages10:52
ikoniasamgoody: it will call them via the libraray/api10:52
samgoodyOK, does that mean it is not logged anywhere?10:52
ikoniasamgoody: no that means exactly what I've just said10:53
ikoniasamgoody: what is the actual problem you are trying to fix10:53
samgoodyThe images out put by imagemagick have suddenly changed. I want to know what the commands were that ran10:53
ikoniain what way changed ?10:54
IhrFusselWhere do I need to put my Bash script if I want it to run only ONCE per restart?10:54
ikoniaIhrFussel: once per restart of what ?10:55
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IhrFusselOf the OS/machine10:55
ikoniawhat OS ?10:55
IhrFusselXubuntu10:55
ikoniaIhrFussel: you can put it where you want, use the @reboot cron entry10:55
samgoodyInstead of it outputting a cropped image 100x150 it now outputs an image 100x4. U10:55
ikoniasamgoody: so the apache logs should show the outputting of an image10:56
ikoniasamgoody: what is the application that calls image magic10:56
samgoodyIn nginx. No errors10:56
ikoniasamgoody: sorry-, nginx,10:56
ikoniasamgoody: what is the application that is calling imagemagik10:56
samgoodyA php page (so i presume fast-cgi) that uses exec()10:57
ikoniasamgoody: "a php page" who wrote the php page ?10:57
samgoodyFred10:57
samgoodyPart of Fred's magical scripts10:57
ikoniahttp://www.fmwconcepts.com/imagemagick/10:58
ikoniathese ?10:58
samgoodyyup10:58
samgoodyAnd I tried calling the script from the command line, just now10:58
ikoniasamgoody: so if you turn up the debuggin on the PHP ini you should get a lot more verbose output10:58
samgoodyOutput was the same. so skip nginx and fast-cgi. OK, will do that10:59
ikoniasamgoody: the guys in ##php can guide you with some far better (than I) PHP debugging practices10:59
samgoodyI thought there might be something in Ubuntu that was lower level that tracked all calls. Hence my asking here. Thanks for your help11:01
ikoniasamgoody: it's not really like that, as it's most likley (but not certain) making the call via a library, not the shell11:01
sersesHello I'm trying to setup a pppoe connection with pppoeconf but it doesn't find any devices11:09
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tomreynsamgoody: for shell commands, you could prefix the commands you run by 'rootsh' or 'script' to record the commands run. rootsh is a bit of a misnomer since you can also use it to just record all any commands a standard user runs (no sudo / root involved).11:17
Richard_CavellIf I write a C program that has assert(0); it exits and says "Aborted (core dumped)".  Any idea where this core is located?11:19
ikoniaRichard_Cavell: should be the cwd11:19
tomreynIIRC there is none, by default11:19
Richard_Cavellikonia: Nope, there's nothing there11:19
tomreynyou'll need to reconfigure this via sysctl and reproduce the failure11:20
tomreynman core11:20
tomreyn-> Naming of core dump files11:21
Zemtriz_Hello everyone. I need help with wifi :D11:22
tomreynon ubuntu, by default, core dumps are not written to a file but piped into apport, which then decides what to do with it, if anything.11:22
Zemtriz_I've got problem with wifi. PCI is working but I also tried to connect usb wifi card and is working fine except it cannot connect to wifi :) I just can't change it's state to up11:23
Richard_Cavelltomreyn: Okay.  I can see this is not going to be trivial.11:23
tomreynRichard_Cavell: run 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern' to get a better idea. you can temporarily change this behaviour (until reboot) by echoing something else into /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern - or you can change it permanently by setting the value in a file placed in /etc/sysctl.d/11:24
tomreynRichard_Cavell: here's an easy enough example https://sigquit.wordpress.com/2009/03/13/the-core-pattern/11:25
Zemtriz_Hello, need help with USB wifi adapter. It cannot connect to any AP. Reason is maybe that it can't change its state to UP11:29
Zemtriz_any help?11:29
tomreynZemtriz_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/98702/how-to-unblock-something-listed-in-rfkill11:32
Zemtriz_marek@marek-N240BU:~$ rfkill list all 0: hci0: Bluetooth  Soft blocked: no  Hard blocked: no 1: phy0: Wireless LAN  Soft blocked: no  Hard blocked: no 2: phy1: Wireless LAN  Soft blocked: no  Hard blocked: no11:33
Zemtriz_nothing is blocked11:33
tomreynokay, so it's something else, what's your hardware? lsusb | grep -i wireless11:34
Zemtriz_can it has something to do that I have already connected wifi from PCI card?11:36
Zemtriz_Bus 001 Device 005: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter11:37
Zemtriz_Maybe I could change state of PCI adapter to down and then USB adapter to up11:38
tomreynunless signalling interferes with the pci chip it shouldnt stop the usb chip from associating11:38
tomreynright, i would try that, first, rule out any possible influences by that other card.11:38
tomreynwhat's your ubuntu release? lsb_release -ds11:39
Zemtriz_Ubuntu 17.04 but I use gnome flavour11:40
tomreynare you using the default kernel of this release? cat /proc/version11:40
tomreynZemtriz_: ^ see above and also check whether, with the usb stick connected, "ubuntu-drivers devices" lists any proprietary drivers / firmwares available for your USB connected WLAN device.11:45
ZemtrizI'm back. Had to restart my laptop. Because after changing PCI adapter state to down, I couldn't set it again to up11:45
tomreynhmm, weird.11:45
tomreynare you using the default kernel of this release? Run "cat /proc/version". also check whether, with the usb stick connected, "ubuntu-drivers devices" lists any proprietary drivers / firmwares available for your USB connected WLAN device.11:46
ZemtrizLinux version 4.10.0-26-generic (buildd@lcy01-09) (gcc version 6.3.0 20170406 (Ubuntu 6.3.0-12ubuntu2) ) #30-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 27 09:30:12 UTC 201711:47
Zemtrizthis usb device should be compatible. Because it is working in monitoring mode find and other, just in managed mode it can't join any wifi. And what I found is, that it has problem to turn its state to up11:47
Zemtrizgonna try to use wicd11:47
tomreynyou could also use nm-cli and iw /iwconfig / ilist11:49
tomreynswitching to wicd may introduce new issues rather than help solving this11:50
Zemtrizoh11:50
tomreyni meant to write 'iwlist', not 'ilist'11:51
Zemtrizit can scan networks11:51
Zemtrizin nmcli it says disconencted11:51
Zemtriz wifi (iwlwifi), 00:28:F8:2E:25:A7, hw  ip4 default  inet4 192.168.100.104/24  route4 169.254.0.0/1611:51
Zemtrizuninstalled wicd. I think I will restart computer once again11:52
Zemtrizjust in case11:52
Zemtriz_back11:54
Zemtriz_it's still there11:54
Zemtriz_wicd11:54
Zemtriz_oh god, what I have done11:55
tomreynwe could only speculate, or you could take a look at /var/log/apt/term.log and tell us11:56
tomreyn...or at the output of 'history' (while running a shell as the user you used to run those commands on before)11:56
Zemtriz_I think I'm lost. tomreyn, will you be still available after 1 hour maybe?11:58
tomreynmaybe, maybe not11:59
Zemtriz_ok :D11:59
tomreynbut surely someone else will be11:59
tomreynbe sure to take note of those facts you provided and be ready to produce a summary of them.11:59
tomreynthere is also http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ to help you with this12:00
tomreynhttps://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/09/%23ubuntu.txt specifically12:00
Zemtriz_oh, thank you very much12:01
tomreynhttps://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/09/%23ubuntu.html for a colored variant12:01
Zemtriz_one more thing. Why is there still wicd when I have uninstalled it?12:02
tomreynthis suggests you did not uninstall it successfully, or not entirely12:02
Zemtriz_sudo apt-get purge wicd12:03
tomreyndpkg -l '*wicd*'12:03
ioriaZemtriz_, probably wicd-daemon12:03
tomreynany lines starting 'ii' there?12:03
Zemtriz_dpkg -I "*wicd*" dpkg-deb: error: failed to read archive '*wicd*': No such file or directory12:04
ioriaZemtriz_, l = L12:04
tomreynL is not I12:04
tomreyndpkg -l '*wicd*'12:04
tomreynor; dpkg --list '*wicd*'12:04
Zemtriz_it's still thre. Client, cli, curses....12:04
Zemtriz_daemon, gtk, python wicd and wicd12:05
tomreynwell, you can uninstall those, too12:05
ioriaZemtriz_,  also,  autoremove12:05
Zemtriz_now it looks good12:06
tomreynor 'apt purge PACKAGENAME1 PACKAGENAME2 ...' (this may also remove any wicd profiles / configurations, however)12:06
Zemtriz_yup thank you. I have to go now :( Soon I will be back. Hope will see you again :D12:07
tomreynsee you, good luck12:07
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Richard_CavellIs there any work being done on 18.04 LTS?12:13
Richard_CavellI really want a long-term-support version of Ubuntu but 16.04 is just slightly too old for me12:13
Richard_CavellI'm using PPAs to make up the difference12:13
cfhowlettRichard_Cavell, work beings after 17.10 is released12:13
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hanmaccfhowlett: there is no direct error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25053139/12:17
tomreynRichard_Cavell: what is it that you're missing on 16.04?12:18
cfhowletthanmac, sorry my german is kaput.  open your terminal and put export LC_ALL=C      then do the do commands again.  or use the german language ubuntu irc12:19
cfhowlett!de | hanmac12:19
ubottuhanmac: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!12:19
hanmaccfhowlett: LC_ALL=C doesnt work with that command: "UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\xf6' in position 8: ordinal not in range(128)"12:20
cfhowlettso no english output for you.12:20
ioriahanmac, try    LANG=C   do-release-upgrade12:21
hanmacLANG=C doesnt work for that too12:21
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Richard_Cavelltomreyn: The version of MAME is too old to support a machine that I want to emulate.  The version of NEStopia is actually too recent - I had to roll back to a previous version.12:22
tomreynhanmac: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 do-release-upgrade12:23
hanmacLANG=en_US.UTF-8 doesn't crash but will be ignored by the program12:24
tomreynRichard_Cavell: i see. i guess i'd use PPA's then, too. but this issue does not sound like an ubuntu upgrade could fix it, at leats not the backward compatibility one.12:24
tomreynhanmac: so you don't have this locale installed. you can either install it or get help in #ubuntu-de12:25
ioriahanmac,   type:    LC_ALL=C bash      does it report errors ?12:26
hanmacioria: yeah same unicode encode error12:29
tomreynhanmac: to enable english (en_US.UTF-8) locales, you would run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales     # (but keep the default german locale if this is your primary language). once that's done, you should be able to run "LANG=en_US.UTF-8 do-release-upgrade" and get actual output.12:30
hanmacfound the curipit it was: LANGUAGE=en_US12:31
tomreynhmm i think that's a non utf-8 locale, suggesting your german locale is non utf-8, too. you may want to change that.12:32
hanmactomreyn: normaly it should be utf-8 too, but thats not the problem because i want the english output, not the translated one12:35
hanmacenglish message is there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25053198/12:35
cfhowletthanmac, line 47 - 49 point to the cause12:36
hanmaci want to go from 16.10 to 17.04 : the problem it seems are the unity packages12:38
tomreynmust be the last one (line 49) then since you're attempting to upgrade from yakkety (16.10) to zesty (17.04) upgrade, neither of which are pre-releases.12:39
tomreyn-upgrade12:39
hanmacwill the apt.log be helpful for that?12:40
ioriahanmac,   grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log12:40
hanmacioria do you want the full apt.log or only the grep?12:41
ioriahanmac,   the grep12:41
hanmacmy broken grep http://paste.ubuntu.com/25053230/12:42
ioriahanmac,   i think you have some forced/unsupported pkgs ....12:44
ioriahanmac,    libboost1.62-dev  , for example, does not exist in yakkety12:45
ioria!info libboost1.62-dev yakkety12:45
ubottuPackage libboost1.62-dev does not exist in yakkety12:45
hanmacyeah, but it will be in zesty12:45
thewillois there a guide to recompiling ubuntu completely from source?12:45
thewillogentoo style12:45
cfhowletthanmac, mixing repos will break things12:45
cfhowlett!source | thewillo12:46
ubottuthewillo: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html12:46
hanmaccfhowlett: i don't want to mix repos, i just want from yakkety to zesty12:46
thewilloubottu, yeah I've been doing that I was wondering if there's a better way12:46
ubottuthewillo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:46
thewilloI might have already fixed the problem by compiling bash from source12:47
thewilloI haven't hit a segfault since I recompiled bash with 7.1 gcc12:47
ioriahanmac,   apt-cache policy libboost1.61-dev12:49
hanmacioria: what do you suspect to see? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25053261/ it was reseted12:52
ioriahanmac,  i suspected anothe version, but nope12:53
tomreynthewillo: if you've got segfaults on bash on a supported release, please be sure to report a bug.12:54
thewillotomreyn, it's already well known12:54
thewilloit's a Ryzen 1700x12:54
tomreynokay, got a launchpad bug id?12:55
ioria!info libboost1.61-dev12:55
ubottulibboost1.61-dev (source: boost1.61): Boost C++ Libraries development files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.61.0+dfsg-3build1 (zesty), package size 6661 kB, installed size 110805 kB12:55
thewillono... I don't know if it's got one... but the bug is well known in general12:56
ioriahanmac,  it tries to install libboost1.62-dev  but also on zesty is libboost1.61-dev12:56
tomreynthewillo: i got a ryzen 1800x on 16.04 here and bash's not failing, so i'd be interested in more details12:56
thewillotomreyn, the bug it triggered by heavy compiling loads12:57
hanmacioria: hm okay but shouldn't that try to remove the old package? (i marked it as auto installed)12:57
thewillotomreyn, do you compile a lot of stuff?12:57
tomreynthewillo: oh that, wasn't that fixed with a microcode update recently?12:57
tomreynnot a lot, but i do12:58
ioriahanmac,  sources.list is ok ? i mean security and updates enabled ?12:58
thewillotomreyn, yes but the way ryzen patches microcode you can't patch it at boot time, so I'm waiting for motherboard firmware. AMD sent the fix out on the 20th of last month12:58
thewillobut a lot of people say they fixed it by recompiling bash with newer gcc12:59
tomreynthewillo: microcode updates at boot seem to be working fine here. i'm on linux 4.12.0, though, but i thinkt hey worked since 4.10 at least12:59
thewilloyeah I'm on 4.12 as well13:00
tomreynrecompiling bash sounds more like a workaround to me, but then you could argue that microcode updates are, too.13:00
tomreyni'm on patch_level=0x0800112613:01
thewillohow do I check patch level?13:01
tomreyngrep -i microcode /var/log/syslog13:02
thewillohold on let me boot up the rig in question13:02
tomreynbut versions may differ between 1700x and 1800x13:02
hanmacioria: i think so, both security and updates should be on ... i am short before hardcoding replacing yakkety with zesty in the file13:02
ioriahanmac,  that's not recommended , but sometime has worked13:03
lavinhogood afternoon13:13
lavinhohow to compile tplink ue300 driver ubuntu13:13
lavinho?13:13
tomreynthewillo: we're going offtopic here, but take a look at https://github.com/platomav/MCExtractor - we can chat mor ein #ubuntu-offtopic if you like13:13
kDycuHello again. I'm having some library issues? I'm getting this error pinbox: error while loading shared libraries: libftd2xx.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory13:14
kDycuand I've tried to follow some tutorials on the internet for installing that but it doesn't seem to have worked, and I really don't know what I'm doing13:15
tomreynkDycu: discuss which ubuntu release you are running and which software (which package, where from?) you are trying to make work.13:16
oerhekskDycu, what are you building and what guide did you follow, an on what ubuntu version?13:16
oerheksyeah, such sparse info is useless13:16
kDycuI'm running ubuntu 16.04 , and I'm running a really weird pinball emulation software called Pinbox.13:17
kDycuand I followed this http://www.ethernut.de/elektor/tools/unix/openocdlin.html13:17
afidegnumhello, i just apply new firewall settings and COMIT at the end, how do i let the new rules take effect immediately?13:17
kDycusorry, I'm not really well versed in linux stuff, I really only know the bare minimum to function (and clearly not even that)13:18
oerhekskDycu, you seem to miss the FTDI support library, see the bottom part of that tutor13:19
oerhekswget etc13:19
kDycuYeah, I did everything in that bottom part ;/13:19
kDycumy /usr/local/lib has libftd2xx.so and libftd2xx.so.0 in it13:20
kDycuand so does /usr/lib13:21
oerhekshmm 2008 . i am not sure it is going to work13:24
tomreynyou should definitely try all of this in a VM which you can scrap afterwards, not your live ubuntu13:24
kDycuOh I've been backing up as I go13:25
kDycuthis Ubuntu install exists entirely to run this pinball emulation software behind the scenes13:25
kDycuI've gotten this program working on 14.04, but with some really irritating issues with no sound on startup-- fixed by rebooting usually13:26
kDycuand I've been trying to get it running on 16 in hopes that it'd fix the weird sound issues :/13:27
tomreynkDycu: unlikely, you might be lucky running it on a historic (unsupported, insecure, do not connect to internet) ubuntu release in a 'desktop' VM (such as virtualbox)13:35
kDycuhow does VirtualBox work? like do I run inside of an existing Ubuntu install?13:36
akikkDycu: it'll be a virtual machine manager in a window. you can also run it headless13:37
kDycuCan this be something that can launch on like startup? I basically need the whole thing to launch completely automatically without human interference13:39
kDycucause it's all actually hidden away inside of a legit pinball cabinet13:39
akikkDycu: the headless features came with virtualbox 5.0 i think. you can get more information in #vbox13:41
oerhekskDycu, sure, set autologin and add the application to startup13:41
oerhekstype start* in dash and the menu shows up13:42
Zemtriz_Hello everyone. Need help to change state of network device. It's always down14:20
Zemtriz_I need help. Can't connect to wifi with my USB adapter. It just can't change its state to up14:24
Zemtriz_and if I change state down on another device, then can't change it back to up :D14:24
tomreyn<tomreyn> be sure to take note of those facts you provided and be ready to produce a summary of them.14:26
tomreyn<tomreyn> there is also http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ to help you with this14:26
tomreyn<tomreyn> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/09/%23ubuntu.txt specifically14:26
tomreynthewillo: did you ever get to "boot up the rig in question"?14:30
minimecZemtriz_: First check how the stick is initialize after plug with 'dmesg' in the terminal. Check the last 5-10 lines. Then check the output of 'rfkill list'. Also try 'lsusb' and lock for the device number of the device (XXX:XXX). With this number you can also search the net in combination with 'ubuntu'.14:31
tomreynthewillo: fwiw, disabling SMT apparently reliably works around the crashes (yes, not a good workaround): https://community.amd.com/thread/21577314:39
realnhello guys, do you recommend ubuntu lts or the latest version for a developer (not linux dev per se, more android and gamedev, libgdx, and looking to learn other stuff like machine learning etc)14:40
tomreyn^ gone14:41
Zemtriz_Nevermind about thing I said with ip link state. It is down because it is not connected. Looked now into pci adapter. So I have to figure out why it doesn't connect.14:42
_nedRgot disconnected, asking question again,  do you recommend ubuntu lts or the latest version for a developer (not linux dev per se, more android and gamedev, libgdx, and looking to learn other stuff like machine learning etc)14:43
_nedRquora and general internet suggest LTS so going with that14:50
tomreyn_nedR: LTS is usually a good choice, you can always upgrade if needed (but not downgrade)14:53
HalleluiaHappy Sunday guys15:14
MarkB2Halleluia: The same right back at ya.  :-)15:15
Zemtriz17:18:10 Zemtriz_  tomreyn? Wifi si working via wicd 17:18:24 Zemtriz_  but I don't unterstand why via networkmanager doesn't 17:18:32 Zemtriz_  it has successfully connected 17:19:04 Zemtriz_  took steps from this forum: https://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=32987 17:19:15 Zemtriz_  had to stop network-manager and restarted wicd 17:19:25 Zemtriz_  but I want it from network-manager :(15:22
thatlizdudehello, i need to create a group where the user 'plex' and me will have access to specified directory, how could i do that?15:45
thatlizdudehello?15:53
acresearchi have text editor not respoding how do i kill it?15:55
AuthoSyshello thatlizdude15:56
pavlosacresearch: find the process id and kill -9 pid15:56
acresearchpavlos: how do i find the process id?15:56
thatlizdudelet me try again lol15:56
thatlizdudehello, i need to create a group where the user 'plex' and me will have access to specified directory, how could i do that?15:56
pavlosacresearch: ps -ef | grep "the text editor process"15:56
Zemtriz_What does it mean "activation of network connection failed"?15:56
ntdFor some reason RTC/hwclock is not being synced with system/kernel time at shutdown/reboot. "standard" xenial-server install, suggestions?15:57
pavlosacresearch: if you run vi, ps -ef | grep vi15:57
acresearchpavlos: i don't see which one is the process id?15:57
pavlosacresearch: if you run nano, ps -ef | grep nano15:57
pavlosacresearch: what editor are you using?15:58
acresearchdefault text editor, it is just called text editor15:58
[n0mad]gedit15:58
pavlosacresearch: if you run gedit, ps -ef | grep gedit15:58
acresearchok15:58
[n0mad]thatlizdude: it's not really on topic for #ubuntu but i'm guessing you are trying to get plex to access your files. i just changed the plex config to run as my user to achieve this.16:00
thatlizdude[n0mad]: ok let me try16:00
thatlizdude[n0mad]: so if i put the Plex folder inside my Documents folder it should work right?16:06
[n0mad]thatlizdude: I don't know what you mean by plex folder. if you mean it's files you want plex to see in the folder then yes, assuming that your user has access to the files and plex is running as your user16:11
Zemtriz_Any ideas why network manager or nmtui can't activate network device? In dmsg it looks following:16:11
Zemtriz_[14576.311969] wlxe84e063c8196: authenticate with 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 [14576.373936] wlxe84e063c8196: send auth to 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 (try 1/3) [14576.378690] wlxe84e063c8196: authenticated [14581.378943] wlxe84e063c8196: aborting authentication with 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING) [14592.699143] wlxe84e063c8196: authenticate with 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 [14592.759217] wlxe84e063c8196: send auth to 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 (try 1/16:11
thatlizdudethanks16:13
[n0mad]this is their guide for permissions: https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200288596-Linux-Permissions-Guide16:13
oldagetihey guys16:18
oldagetiis there a good chatting software to chaat?16:19
Halleluiachat where? Yahoo/MSN/IRC/ etc16:20
oldagetiinfoencrypt? how do I install it on ubuntu16:20
oldagetino not skype, pure message sending software, end to end encrypted???16:20
oldagetinot videos16:20
Halleluiaif IRC I suggest irssi.. It's the best16:20
Mathisenoldageti, signal16:21
oldagetinot irc. it's too difficult. It should have it's own independent platform , like skype,but only Instant messages one to one.16:21
oldagetican I get a list of them on the ubuntu site?16:22
Mathisenoldageti, https://tox.chat/ then16:23
renn0xtk9echo "blacklist usb-storage" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf && sudo update-initramfs -u16:23
renn0xtk9then reboot16:23
renn0xtk9then lsusb -t16:23
oldagetiirc is a channel not one to one chat. the same for yahoo,MSN they are public networks , I want something more personal.16:23
renn0xtk9and witness how you usb stick is mounted with usb-storage as a driver16:23
renn0xtk9anybody knows WTF ?16:23
oldagetiMathisen: how to install it on ubuntu, which repo16:27
oldagetiIt has video chat though, that's the problem, I am old and not handsome, ugly16:27
oldagetiI don't want them to watch me.16:27
oldagetiI am over seventy.16:27
oldagetiI avoid video chat, as they would urge, me , and I don't want to show myself.16:28
oldagetiMathisen: I prefer text only chat  , or voice doesn't matter. but video facility is too much for me16:28
Halleluiahttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/signal-private-messenger/bikioccmkafdpakkkcpdbppfkghcmihk16:29
oldagetiMathisen: was up16:29
Mathisenoldageti, add the repo and install using apt,16:29
Mathisenoldageti, but if you not sure how a 3.rd party repo affects your os dont do it and go for something else that is included in repo16:30
jeroldageti, irc is just a 1 to 1 chat, where 1 to 1 means 1 entity to another entity, and entities can be other users, global channels or local channels.16:30
oldagetiI searched for signal, but couldn't find the software on the internet16:30
oldagetiws uup, it's like absent. or not known maybe, can you help me a bit16:30
jerit's why the command to send a message is called PRIVMSG <-- =]16:30
jeroldageti, https://whispersystems.org/ you're starting to sound like a troll16:31
Halleluiaoldagetti: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/signal-private-messenger/bikioccmkafdpakkkcpdbppfkghcmihk16:31
oldagetijer I am too old to be a troll, trust me.16:32
thatlizdude[n0mad]: i don't know how you got your Plex setup, but changing users and restarting my laptop did not help :/ I don't know what to do with it16:33
oldagetijer how do I search add-apt-repo softwares as well on the ubuntu site? It serches *only* packages.16:35
oldagetijer i can't install it as it's for mobile ?? and not desktop linux16:37
afidegnumi tried the test exim -v postmaster@your.domain.example  mail is confirmed sent but it doesn't get delivered16:40
afidegnumport 25 is opened16:40
afidegnumcan you please give a hand?16:40
afidegnumanyone?16:48
Halleluiaafidegnum try googling it16:55
KOLANICHhello! are there packages for android ndk?17:00
thatlizdudehello, i have a Plex permissions issue, where the Plex server cannot access my media files, and i need to fix that. The .mp4 file has these permissions: "-rwx------", and someone in Plex told me that theirs has these: "drwxrwxrwx+". I don't understand the permissions much, but I wanna get this to work. I appreciate any help17:05
JohnDoe2Hello guys, I'm not sure why iptables is dropping my traffic pushing through tun0, although everything should be allowed. Here's what my iptables-restore takes in at every boot: https://mycode.cf/ruvihupevu.rb17:06
arch-nemesisHi, thatlizdude. I imagine plex runs in the background as one user and you log in as a different user17:07
thatlizdudearch-nemesis: i actually set the Plex user to me, because i don't know how to make a group with me and the 'plex' user :(17:07
thatlizdudearch-nemesis: if you know how, i could set the user back to 'plex' and i would rather have it as a group17:08
arch-nemesisIf you use 'ps -ef | grep plex' is it running as you or as the plex user. That's one way to check for sure.17:08
arch-nemesisThe files have a user and a group associated with them, which you can see with 'ls -l'. I suspect whatever user plex runs as is not the same as the owner of those files.17:10
thatlizdudearch-nemesis: ok i got some output from the ps -ef | grep plex but i really don't know what it means17:11
arch-nemesisThat's a list of processes, and the first colum is the username that is running that process.17:11
thatlizdudeit says plex17:12
arch-nemesisok, so it's runnning as the plex user :)17:12
arch-nemesisMaybe you just edited a file to change the user and didn't restart plex?17:12
thatlizdudei restarted the laptop17:13
thatlizdudesooo17:13
arch-nemesisah, ok. Well that's okay anyway. It's good that it runs as a separate user.17:13
thatlizdudeok if i go to 'sudo nano /etc/default/plexmediaserver', should i change the 'export PLEX_MEDIA_SERVER_USER=myusername' back to 'plex' user?17:14
arch-nemesisSure. it's not required to run it as the same user as you.17:15
thatlizdudeok17:15
thatlizdudeso what now?17:15
arch-nemesisI recommend you read up on how those permissions work, but you can kind of think if it like this. the files have a user and a group associated with them, and that string of letters -rwxrwxrwx17:16
arch-nemesisthat's 'read' 'write' and 'execute'17:16
arch-nemesisfor 'user' 'group' and 'other'17:16
thatlizdudeyeah i read some about that17:17
arch-nemesisso the first set is the permissions of the file owner. The second set is the permissions for users in that group, and the third set is for everyone else.17:17
thatlizdudeokay17:17
arch-nemesisso you have rwx in the user group, but everyone else has no permission17:17
arch-nemesisso you could 'chmod +r your_files.mp4'17:18
arch-nemesisand that will add the read permission to everyone, including the plex user.17:18
thatlizdudeso what does the +r do?17:19
arch-nemesis+r is like "add read"17:20
arch-nemesisso it adds the read permission17:20
arch-nemesisso if you do your 'ls -l' again, you should see it as -rwxr--r--17:21
arch-nemesiswhere user, group, and other all have the read permission, but they can't write/edit the files.17:21
thatlizdudeso from what i understand, you have who owns it, perms for who owns it, and perms for everyone else, but what if somebody has like 10 groups and you want specific perms for each group? how would linux handle that?17:21
arch-nemesisYou can, Those are called Access Control Lists. It's a bit more complex to setup.17:22
thatlizdudei was just asking i don't need that complex system of 10 groups :D17:22
thatlizdudearch-nemesis: it worked!!! thank you so much!!!17:23
arch-nemesisNo problem!17:23
thatlizdudei'm starting to like Linux and all the customizations :)17:23
arch-nemesisCool. Well good luck. Glad that worked :)17:24
thatlizdudedo you know a good place to learn about Linux? or you just use Linux and learn on the way?17:25
thatlizdudei just see most people trusting the terminal the most so i wanna learn the commands17:25
arch-nemesisI've been using it for a long time, so I don't know :) but there are tons of resources. I'd say use it, set yourself up with a project you're interested in and keep learning.17:28
Lord-KaminaHello.17:33
Lord-KaminaWhat's the suggested/preferable way to make a persistent LiveUSB that actually works?17:34
DJonesLord-Kamina: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent This is the recommended method17:40
DJonesIts always worked for me17:41
liorolrhi17:43
liorolre lists... Done17:43
liorolrW: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/antonbatenev:/tox/xUbuntu_17.04  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F2AA0B1E5EF8317:43
KettleCookedMy ubuntu server 16.04 runs two 500gb drives in software raid 1 (mirrored), and lately the system has started having trouble reading the drives. I can usually boot up, but operations start running super slow (like typing simple commands) pretty soon after boot, and sometimes I get DMA access errors for my sda/sdb devices. Question: what's my best bet to copy the important data from the system? Was thinking of mounting in another17:43
KettleCookedsystem, but not sure if I can boot without running that as raid as well. what would you do?17:43
liorolr?when I add that repo and install ggpg error?17:43
liorolrsorry when I update, I get tht error17:43
liorolrso what should I do?17:43
liorolr??17:45
liorolrayone is here17:46
DJonesliorolr: People are here, but given the lack of response, they don't know about problems with this external repo's17:48
BluesKajliorolr,  as you were asked to do in ##linux, ask in #vpn17:50
oerheksliorolr, there si a post that gives the solution with that key, not sure it will work https://askubuntu.com/questions/793156/how-do-i-install-qtox-in-ubuntu-16-0417:51
DJonesliorolr: With it not being a supported repo, you'll probably need to give info on where you've got the repo from, what instructions you're following etc, but as its not a supported Ubuntu package, you probablyy need to ask the owners of the repo about it17:52
Lord-KaminaThanks17:52
ca-on-adamHello there, about Bind9, I am wondering if anyone knows why "dnssec-validation no" fixes errors trying to resolve some web addresses?17:54
ca-on-adamI have set up Bind9 in a virtual machine on my LAN to forward DNS requests to a known working nameserver.17:54
Lord-KaminaDJones, how much space does the live install itself actually require? i.e. how much is it safe to leave as persistent storage?17:54
DJonesLord-Kamina: Not sure, when I've done it, I used reasonably large usb sticks, so could give 8gb to the installation plus 8gb for /home, I suspect that was overkill, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements says it needs 3.5gb for system as a minimum17:59
stoopkidis there a libsodium18 package for ubuntu 14.04?18:05
Lord-KaminaDJones, I'm going to use a 16gb usb.18:08
sebsebsebhi18:09
afidegnumi have been trying still but no succecss18:09
sebsebsebafidegnum: trying with what, I just joined here18:10
afidegnumsebsebseb: i m trying to make exim4 work18:10
sebsebseboh18:10
liorolrone question18:15
liorolrwhy are partial updates supported on ubuntu, and don't result in problems unlike other systems like gentoo/arch??18:15
liorolrhow does ubuntu's package management work regarding this18:16
liorolrBluesKaj: DJones oerheks hello18:16
liorolrThe certificate for irc.ubuntu.com could not be validated.18:20
liorolrThe certificate claims to be from "tolkien.freenode.net" instead. This could mean that you are not connecting to the service you believe you are.18:20
liorolrI get error via pidgin?18:20
DJonesliorolr: Looks its its not an issue, but to be sure, I think you can connect to chat.freenode.net instead18:24
DJonesliorolr: irc.ubuntu.com uses the freenode network anyway18:25
liorolrso which other pidgin network shall I use18:29
liorolrnot irc, AIM,...which one is the best, I know pidgin is not a netwrok but a client, so which available netwrok shall I use inside pidgin, apart from irc, for one to one encrypted chat18:30
liorolrpersonal chat18:30
liorolrirc is a mess of other people interfereing and hacking18:30
* [n0mad] doesn't use pidgin for anything18:31
liorolrand violating others, especially when you have computer experts on irc. irc is full of computer experts18:31
liorolrthat's the problem with irc18:31
liorolrDJones: hi18:31
[n0mad]i only use irc to chat18:32
[n0mad]and i have no problems18:32
liorolr[n0mad]: the day you get hacked like me, then will begin your problems18:33
liorolr:)18:33
liorolrirc is full of hackers18:33
[n0mad]i've been on irc for years18:33
[n0mad]over 10 years, never had a problem18:34
JohnDoe2Hello, why does 16.04 still pick up IPv6 on reboot, although 99-sysctl.conf has disable_ipv6 and disable_ipv6 has "1" in it?18:35
[n0mad]JohnDoe2: i'm not familiar with it really but have you tried following this? http://www.neuraldump.com/2016/11/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/18:39
JohnDoe2yes I looked up a few of those guides and they all say the same thing.18:40
[n0mad]it makes no mention of 99-sysctl.conf18:40
[n0mad]only sysctl.conf18:40
[n0mad]and 3 lines that have to be added18:40
JohnDoe2only after manually running sysctl -p does v6 actually drop18:40
JohnDoe2[n0mad] 99-sysctl.conf is just a symlink to sysctl.conf18:41
[n0mad]ah, ok18:41
[n0mad]probably require someone smarter than me then!18:42
JohnDoe2does the network manager have its own settings or something?18:42
liorolr[n0mad]: you have not been to the hacking chnnels18:43
JohnDoe2[n0mad] no worries, you can't know absolutely every quirk there is. thank you!18:44
liorolr[n0mad]: you are not all that experiencedd with other netwroks and DARK channels, wherer real computer experts reside18:44
liorolrI doubt you even know bash18:44
JohnDoe2eh screw it, I'm just going to boot with ipv6.disable=118:50
Ben64JohnDoe2: ipv6 is important, why disable?18:51
liorolr[n0mad]: you idiot, why are you nnot saying shit18:53
[n0mad]excuse me?18:53
[n0mad]what should i be saying?18:53
JohnDoe2because it's useless for my use case, Ben64. This is a box that's supposed to only allow outgoing traffic via vpn (ipv4 only).18:54
JohnDoe2[n0mad] try not to worry, liorolr has no idea about IRC, ping timeouts and such. thanks for your help earlier, however.18:54
Ben64JohnDoe2: eh ok, having ipv6 doesn't make ipv4 not work though18:54
[n0mad]haha yeah i'm aware, and np, wish i could be of better help18:55
JohnDoe2Ben64 true. What I said was out of context I guess. Instead of maintaining separate ip6tables rules for a non-ISP ipv6 tunnel (HE, half my regular speed), and an IPv4 only VPN server, I'd rather not have ipv6 at all for this machine.18:56
Ben64JohnDoe2: ok18:57
compdocI turn ipv6 off for most my servers18:58
JohnDoe2you don't want to serve sites to ipv6-only clients?18:58
akikJohnDoe2: you can set /etc/gai.conf to prefer ipv4 connections (precedence lines)18:59
JohnDoe2akik sounds cool. thank you19:00
akikJohnDoe2: uncomment the other precedence lines and the last precedence line (there's a comment about it)19:00
JohnDoe2gotcha I see19:01
Huliohi , how to unzip .gz file in command?19:03
Hulioanyone?19:03
JohnDoe2gunzip19:03
Huliowhat is the full command?19:03
JohnDoe2that's it19:04
Huliogunzip filename?19:04
JohnDoe2yes19:04
swenssonWhen I use VPN, do I need to create a key etc for every device that will use it or can I use the same?19:35
karolyihey, is anyone having problems with installing redis-server on 17.04 and getting "Too many levels of symbolic links" systemd erros?19:40
karolyiafter having googled around, it seems it's a bug in systemd but it should have already been fixed19:41
karolyihalp19:42
ioriakarolyi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/redis/+bug/163841019:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1638410 in redis (Ubuntu) "redis-server fails to start after 16.04 to 16.10 upgrade" [Undecided,Invalid]19:42
karolyiyeah I found this one19:42
karolyinot much information thou other than it's systemd19:43
karolyiI also found the github issue, where they say they have fixed it, yet I still have this error19:43
ioriakarolyi, there's a workaround... (i don't use rtedis)19:43
karolyithe protecthome stuff? that doesn't help now, tried it19:44
IIIdefconIII hi there, all sudden i cannot acces my home folder, can anybody please help? im using a ubuntu system 17.0419:52
pankajHello Guys. Is anybody listening>20:02
Richard_CavellNot me20:02
Bashing-omIIIdefconIII: What can you boot too ? Need to loom at the permissions on "your" /home .20:03
Bashing-om!asl | pankaj20:03
ubottupankaj: Most of us don't speak American Sign Language; please try English instead. ✌20:03
Bashing-om!ask | pankaj20:03
ubottupankaj: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:03
pankajI installed mutt. Somehow I configured to login to my account. But whenever I send E-mail I get SMTP authentication error.20:04
RonWhoCaresCan anyone make sense of the error: https://pastebin.com/AD9M1P9d20:05
oerheksRonWhoCares, run updates first before installing anything20:06
Bashing-omRonWhoCares: cur(1) or cur(l) ? .. trying to download, it is curl , no ?20:08
oerheksbut i think skype stopped 1/july with skype... but that pgp site is valid.20:08
RonWhoCaresI am trying to follow these directions @ http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/03/install-skype-5-0-for-linux-ubuntu-16-04/20:08
oerheksupsate, then install curl20:09
oerhekserr c/update20:09
RonWhoCaresJust tried.  There are no updates to install20:09
RonWhoCaresThat means I am stuck at the error i showed you20:10
pankajBashing-om: I installed mutt. Somehow I configured to login to my account. But whenever I send E-mail I get SMTP authentication error.20:11
oerheksRonWhoCares, what happens when you run: sudo apt-get full-update20:14
oerheksmaybe some packages are held back, kernel or libc or such ..20:14
oerhekssudo apt-get full-upgrade20:15
oerheks7.47.0-1ubuntu2.2 is available for months now...20:15
Bashing-ompankaj: Sorry, no ecperience with mutt - await others who have the experience .20:15
RonWhoCaresoerheks: Same as before.  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:15
oerheks:-(20:15
pankajBashing-om: SO how can I join the newsgroups and mailing list.20:16
Bashing-omRonWhoCares: oerheks What shows ' apt policy libcurl3-gnutls ' in a pastebin ?20:17
RonWhoCaresBashing-om: https://pastebin.com/Cc1Jbyze20:18
oerheksRonWhoCares, hmmm last resort, switch apt mirror to main.20:19
oerheksmaybe ca.archive... is behind..20:20
RonWhoCaresI don't know how to do this20:20
oerheksopen dash > sources, or softwarecenter > edit > sources20:20
oerheksthere you will find the updateserver tab20:21
Bashing-omRonWhoCares: oerheks: Think'n here. One does ' apt show libcurl3-gnutls ' and lo and behold it is curl . So we looking at a PPA issue here ?20:22
RonWhoCaresoerheks: Do you mean 'Software & Updates'?20:22
oerheksRonWhoCares, could well be20:23
RonWhoCaresI am at the screen where my ppa. are listed20:25
ahi2tried to boot using img stick and boot menu was readable but then after bootup the video screen was garbled and unreadable. any ideas?20:25
Bashing-om!nomodeset | ahi220:26
ubottuahi2: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:26
RonWhoCaresBashing-om oerheks Current list of ppa @ http://picpaste.com/ppa-O4BcEQay.png20:26
ahi2thanks20:26
oerheksRonWhoCares, next tab > updates.20:26
RonWhoCaresoerheks: http://picpaste.com/updates-kKigo0JY.png20:27
oerheksclick all tabs, you will find update servers20:28
oerheksand ehhh.. no xenial security, no recommended updates..20:29
oerhekswhy did you disable those?20:29
werstol21Hi, trying to get an amd driver from support.amd.com .. I can't identify my gpu card. When I run "lspci | grep AMD" I get: 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265] (rev 83)... So is it Radeon R7 M260 or M265?20:32
laszlowatydriver is probably shared20:32
RonWhoCaresoerheks: N20:34
RonWhoCaresoerheks: This was how it came installed I think.  They are now checked.  Trying updates again.20:34
RonWhoCaresoerheks:  Everything needs updating20:35
oerheksRonWhoCares, good find.20:36
oerheksi think you will get kernels too..20:36
RonWhoCaresI will check20:38
werstol21So have anyone managed to install amdgpu pro 17.10 driver on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?20:38
IhrFusselIs there a way to check if a certain FD is open? I need that for flock20:39
RonWhoCaresNow the updates need more updates20:44
RonWhoCaresKernel is coming in20:46
GacntHey fellas, I'm trying to compile something with make, but I get https://pastebin.com/1TwgNrLY ... Any suggestions, I've tried installing the libmysqlclient-dev and zlib-dev but having no success20:47
RonWhoCaresI have to re-start20:49
RonWhoCaresI'll be back20:49
naccIhrFussel: fds are specific to a process20:51
naccIhrFussel: i think you're asking the wrong question20:51
IhrFusselnacc, I'm putting a lock on FD 200 but I want to check if another process already locks 200 and if so I want to WAIT but ALSO echo something20:53
SOPHorrificHello guys.... So I have bought this dedicated server and I have 2 things that has been given to me (host name, IP, username and PW) and (IPMI weblink, username and PW) So I want to install the packages for remote desktop. should I log in putty and try to access internet from the Dedicated server to log in the IPMI or should I be able to log in on my Personnal computer (never used an IPMI)20:53
naccIhrFussel: again, fd (esp. the #) is specific to a process, it's not about if they have that fd locked, but if they have the underlying file locked.20:54
SOPHorrificI have ubuntu 17.04 and I think the putty attempt isnt working for a reason and I should be able to use it via my PC isnt it?20:54
IhrFusselnacc, ok then I need to know if the file is locked...is there a simple way for that?20:54
thatlizdudeso i'm still having permission problems with Plex. With these permissions, the folder is being read: "drwxrwxr-x", others are "drwxr--r--" and are not being read. I just need to make them all the same so they can be read, i think it's just some simple chmod command, i'm not sure tho, i appreciate any help20:56
naccIhrFussel: flock -n 200 will fail if 200 is already locked (may way want to use -E so you get a good return code), then run flock after to wait20:56
SOPHorrifictechnically they have the server and theyre giving us access thru the website until we install the packages, do you think  I understand properly?20:57
IhrFusselnacc, ok that's safe? To use flock twice in a row?20:57
naccIhrFussel: i'm not sure what you mean? The first just fails if you aren't able to flock, which is what you want (you need to print a message, you said). Then the second is a retry attempt, which will block until the lock is available20:58
naccIhrFussel: if no other process is using the flock, then the first flock will succeed20:58
naccIhrFussel: perhaps read `man flock`20:58
IhrFusselnacc, yes but in case the first flock succeeds...what about the second one then?20:59
naccIhrFussel: then you shouldn't run the second one.20:59
naccIhrFussel: it's an algorithm suggestion20:59
IhrFusselSo if [[ ! flock -n 200 ]]; then flock -x 200; fi?21:00
naccIhrFussel: except that you wanted to print a message if the flock failed21:01
naccIhrFussel: that was the whole point21:01
naccIhrFussel: the above makes no sense, you should just flock if that's all you needed21:01
CoderEuropeDoes anyone have the CLI commands to just test out this (Yunit): https://yunit.io/ ??21:02
thatlizdudenvm figured it out21:02
IhrFusselnacc, well I need both...I want my script to lock the file and execute the body contents BUT I also want other instances of the same script to print a message + wait until instance #1 has finished21:03
naccCoderEurope: #yunit seems like a better place to ask21:03
oerheksCoderEurope, "You can also join our IRC channel #yunit at freenode."21:03
naccCoderEurope: it's not an ubuntu question at this point21:03
naccIhrFussel: right, so then the above doens't do that, clearly.21:03
CoderEuropeI'll never get an answer today :(21:04
naccCoderEurope: why do you need an answer today?21:04
CoderEuropebecause of reasons.21:04
oerheksCoderEurope, or through that github https://github.com/yunit-io/yunit/blob/master/CODING.md21:04
naccCoderEurope: ok, that's not helpful. good luck in your search.21:04
CoderEuropeok thanks.21:07
RonWhoCaresoerheks: It works21:08
oerheksRonWhoCares, yay, have fun!21:08
CoderEuropeSorry forgotten command to update to 17.04 from 16.04 by CLI ?21:20
x91tanyone have any idea why after boot kernel mods stop printing? dmesg ONLY shows kernel mod output from startup then nothing21:20
naccCoderEurope: you go 16.04 -> 16.10 -> 17.04; `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` with an appropriate value in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades (Prompt=normal)21:21
naccCoderEurope: err, without -d, as you want to go through the releases, sorry21:22
CoderEuropeok cheers.21:22
CoderEuropetrying now.21:22
oerheks-d will give ardvark 17.10 :-D21:23
CoderEuropeokay - I need 17.04 to check Yunit - so cheers for that.21:23
naccoerheks: right :), sorry21:23
x91tis there an easy way to print to a file/console from a kernel module since apparently every iteration of pr_* and printk stops working after boot?21:25
x91tok, is there any possible way at all to get output from a kernel module that actually works? Anything? I've been fighting with this for three days and its getting ridiculous now since debugging is now 100% impossible.21:30
ruicruzhello there. I need to install libjasper1 for a program but it tells that there is no package but is refered by another package21:30
ruicruzany idea on how do I install it?21:30
naccx91t: you are probably asking in the wrong channel21:36
naccx91t: i would suggest #kernelnewbies in OFTC21:36
naccruicruz: what version of ubuntu?21:36
ruicruz1721:36
naccruicruz: 17.04?21:37
x91tty21:37
ruicruzyeah21:37
ruicruzsorry, I didn't knew there where more than one 17.x21:37
naccruicruz: there are two release every year21:37
naccruicruz: in any case, that package stopped existing after 16.0121:37
nacc*16.1021:37
naccruicruz: what package is claiming to depend/refer to it?21:38
ruicruzis a package for my country to sign files/e-emails from my identification card21:38
ruicruzyou want the downlaod link or something like that?21:38
naccruicruz: then the package from your country is not compatible with 17.0421:39
naccruicruz: libjasper upstream is dead, replaced by openjpeg: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=81263021:39
ubottuDebian bug 812630 in ftp.debian.org "RM: jasper -- RoQA; dead upstrem, replaced by openjpeg" [Normal,Fixed]21:39
ruicruz:o21:39
naccruicruz: that was teh reasoning, at least21:39
naccruicruz: it looks like since then, the upstream became active again, but it's already out of debian and ubuntu21:40
ruicruzany way to install it by hand?21:40
ruicruzI don't think the goverment is gonna fix this soon :p21:40
ruicruzand indeed I came from 16.04 just... today :)21:40
naccruicruz: i would suggest, if your government is providing supported packages, to not leave an LTS21:40
naccruicruz: 3rd party packages are often likely to break in this way21:41
naccand this one seems relatively important to keep working21:41
ruicruzindeed :/21:41
ruicruzso, no hard way to install this because it will break something else, right?21:42
naccruicruz: well, given it's been removed, you can probably install the version from 16.10, but it's unsupported and if it is broken, it's unlikely to be fixable21:43
naccruicruz: you might set up a 16.04 VM/container21:43
ruicruza vm will not work, as its unlileky I can pass thru the card reader to the vm, afaik in virtualbox at least I never make it work21:44
naccruicruz: you can try what i suggested, it may or may not work21:46
RBoreal_FripperyTrying to install ubuntu 16.04 on a 7300HQ board. Fresh install and it is extremely slow, moving a single window is a slideshow, and xorg takes 100% cpu constantly. There was an 'intel microcode' available in the additional drivers section, but installing it and rebooting made no difference. Interestingly, I also tried out a 17.04 install on the same hardware, and that worked great. However, there are other reasons that I wish to use 16.04, so21:48
RBoreal_FripperyI would really like to find out how to fix the problem.21:48
RBoreal_FripperyI also tried the most recent microcode from here: http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/restricted/i/intel-microcode/21:49
ruicruznacc any guide to manualy install libs?21:49
ruicruzthat you can recommend21:50
Ben64RBoreal_Frippery: did you try 16.04  with linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge21:50
RBoreal_FripperyNo, do you have a link on that? It is just a package you install for specific kernel?21:50
naccruicruz: you'd need to get the .deb and then i'd recommend using gdebi on it21:50
Ben64RBoreal_Frippery: it gives you the latest ubuntu kernel21:51
RBoreal_Fripperyok21:51
ruicruzok, will try that and see if I can figure it out21:51
ruicruzthanks nacc21:51
oerheksRBoreal_Frippery, what GPU do you have?21:51
oerheks7300HQ board gives intel,. but maybe you have more21:52
RBoreal_FripperyNope, just intel21:52
RBoreal_Fripperyits a laptop board21:52
oerheksmost intel issues are related to standard disabled tearfree and sna > https://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu21:53
oerheksold post, but still valid21:53
IhrFusselnacc, I got my solution "if ! flock -n 200; then echo "The bot is busy right now, please wait a bit."; flock 200 || exit; fi"21:53
naccIhrFussel: seems reasonable21:54
RBoreal_FripperyBen64's suggestion of the kernel package seems to have fixed the issues21:54
RBoreal_FripperyThank you~!21:54
Ben64RBoreal_Frippery: oh you got it working that fast?21:58
RBoreal_Fripperyyup22:02
RBoreal_Fripperyjust the package22:02
RBoreal_Fripperynow dkms not working for the other thing I am trying to install, but thats another story :)22:02
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ThoMehave upgradet ubuntu from 16.04 > 16:10 > 17.0422:13
ThoMeand now hang mein ubuntu with kernel 4.10 with22:14
ThoMe0.084000 NET: Regitered protocol family 1622:14
ThoMewith kernel 4.8 booting fine22:14
ThoMeany ideas what i can do?22:14
HelloBeerHello everyone, there is my problem :22:16
HelloBeerI try to download the source code of a website with the command wget, but this website requires authentification. I've read that i could use cookies to log me to this website and keep the connexion, but after searching and rtfm, all that i tried didn't work.. Can someone explain me how does it work please ?22:18
HelloBeerand especially what's the right command to do that, with the right command I can search how does it works22:19
m4dh4tt4you need access to something you wish to wget, even then, its going to be a rendered version of the source unless its a .html22:21
l1Ll1Ll1LHelloBeer it might be easier to use a browser extension that recursively downloads webpages22:21
l1Ll1Ll1LIf that would be suitable for your purposes anyway22:22
HelloBeerit's a .php, yes i know that it would be easier to have an extension, but I want to practice and to know how to log me with wget, is it possible or just a lengend22:25
HelloBeer?22:25
l1Ll1Ll1LWell check this out https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4272770/wget-with-authentication22:25
l1Ll1Ll1Lthe second to last answer has a script that does what you want, but it would require tweaking22:26
HelloBeeryes I tried first and second answer, it creates a cookie .txt but when I try to use wget with the option --load-cookies the source code still is "authentification required"22:29
l1Ll1Ll1LHmm. Did you make sure that you got the field names right?22:30
l1Ll1Ll1LWhere is the login page in question?22:30
HelloBeerthat's a copy paste with modification, so i suppose it's right.. the login page is  https://www.newbiecontest.org/forums/index.php?action=login222:32
l1Ll1Ll1Ldid you add the cookielength field to your request?22:33
l1Ll1Ll1Lhow about cookieneverexp = true or false?22:33
l1Ll1Ll1Ldid you rename password from the example to passwrd in the source of this page?22:34
l1Ll1Ll1Land is the target page you are using https://www.newbiecontest.org/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=c48a9b3b51b135cb4dc1000e09b041ee&action=login222:34
IIIdefconIII@bashing its working now, had to many jpg files in my home folder so it was terrebly slow to ls22:35
IIIdefconIIITY22:35
Bashing-omIIIdefconIII: Just pleased you got it figured out :)22:35
HelloBeerno, cookielength is what for ? and no cookieneverexp neither.22:36
l1Ll1Ll1Lthose are both fields in the form you showed me22:37
HelloBeerI changes the password to mine, but why change password in passwrd ?22:37
l1Ll1Ll1Lbecause in the source ofthe page it is spelled passwrd22:37
l1Ll1Ll1Lso that is what the server will be looking for22:37
l1Ll1Ll1Lthe data will be posted using the names of each element in the form, visible in the source code22:37
l1Ll1Ll1Lor better yet right click > inspect element22:37
l1Ll1Ll1Land if you go up in the source to the form element, the action attribute gives the URL data should be posted to22:38
HelloBeerand i didn't understand your last message with the modified url, why do you do that ? (sorry for my response time, I have to translate in english and i'm not fast at that)22:39
l1Ll1Ll1Lsee my last comment :)22:39
l1Ll1Ll1Labout the form element22:39
HelloBeerOoh ok that's why the fields were never the same on all different forums22:40
l1Ll1Ll1Lyup, it is completely dependent on how the page is written22:40
HelloBeerOk thanks, gonne look for that and tell you the progress22:41
l1Ll1Ll1Lsounds like a plan, good luck22:42
oerhekscurl that package perhaps?22:44
HelloBeeris the curl response for me?22:53
HelloBeer@l1Ll1Ll1L It works !! I finally used this command : https://pastebin.com/0ZjszcEA22:56
metalbikerhey guys. i've got a support question.22:56
HelloBeerbut I still don't see the modified URL in the url, even with ctrl+f22:57
HelloBeerin the source-code*22:57
HelloBeerThanks for your help22:57
l1Ll1Ll1Lthe URL will be different for you because it continues a unique ID22:58
l1Ll1Ll1Lctrl+f "form"22:58
l1Ll1Ll1Lthan look for target="URL HERE"22:58
l1Ll1Ll1Land np regarding the help22:58
l1Ll1Ll1Loh but you said it worked!22:58
l1Ll1Ll1Lawesome :-)22:58
Bashing-om!ask | metalbiker22:58
ubottumetalbiker: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:58
metalbikeri sometimes have a scrambled screen on startup/restart and i get a system error and it seems to be coming from plymouthd and i'm using ubuntu gnome 17.04.22:59
metalbikerubottu: sorry. i was going to do just that but i hit enter before i could ask my question.22:59
ubottumetalbiker: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:59
l1Ll1Ll1Lwhat is the system error?23:00
metalbikerubottu: oh. are you fluent in 6 million languages like C3PO? lol sorry, i'm a star wars fan and just trying to be funny.23:00
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|Night|Hey quick question can i migrate an ecnrupted (ext3/4) between ubuntu instnces+23:01
|Night|either if i lose system drive and remount drives under a new ssd or move the NAS between vms23:02
|Night|encrrypted*23:02
metalbikerthe error is something to do with plymothd. i keep forgetting to copy down the exact details.23:02
metalbikerl1Ll1ll1L: it's got something to do with plymouthd. and then sometimes i get a scrambled screen upon restart or even a cold startup. i'm on a very new lenovo ideapad 310.23:03
metalbiker l1Ll1ll1L: i'm using ubuntu gnome 17.04.23:04
l1Ll1Ll1Lhmm I don't know metalbiker, ##linux is pretty active right now, you could ask there too23:04
l1Ll1Ll1L|Night| you just want to know if you can mount your encrypted drive on a different Ubuntu instance?23:05
metalbiker l1Ll1ll1L: ok, i'll go there, too. thank you for help, though. i'll stay on this channel, too.23:05
|Night|l1Ll1Ll1L:  yes23:06
l1Ll1Ll1Lyeah sorry I can't help more metalbiker don't know where to start on that one23:06
l1Ll1Ll1L|Night| yep you sure can23:06
|Night|i have many drives in my system, and if one day i wannt to change from ubntu to arch or cent23:06
metalbiker l1Ll1ll1L: it's all good. I appreciate it anyway.23:06
|Night|l1Ll1Ll1L:  do i need to save keys or will passkey work?23:06
l1Ll1Ll1Lshouldn't be an issue, you are using luks I imagine?23:06
|Night|passphrase23:06
|Night|yeah defualt from ubuntu drisk format config23:06
l1Ll1Ll1Lyeah if you want to do it from the command line it is:23:07
l1Ll1Ll1Lcryptsetup luksOpen /dev/device NAME_HERE23:07
l1Ll1Ll1L(enter passphrase)23:07
l1Ll1Ll1Lmount /location /dev/mapper/NAME_HERE23:07
|Night|so i only need passhprase and not save some keys23:07
|Night|with truecrypt i needed a private key + passphrase23:07
l1Ll1Ll1Lyeah, you can do it both ways if you registered a key file23:08
|Night|cheers :)23:08
l1Ll1Ll1Lif you want to be sure you can do it easily just boot to a live ubuntu and try to mount it23:08
l1Ll1Ll1Lnp :)23:08
|Night|yeah ill do that,   had some fraky with Bitllocker on windows and tpms23:08
l1Ll1Ll1Lnever trusted bittlocker myself23:09
|Night|neah there are some bugs there23:09
|Night|eg you can "pause" it with a simple command and without password23:09
l1Ll1Ll1LI am more concerned about back doors23:09
|Night|then reboot and rootkit23:09
l1Ll1Ll1Llol23:09
l1Ll1Ll1Lgg MS23:09
|Night|i told my micrsoft enterprise rep.23:09
|Night|i got a call from secops, not a bug, but by design to allow for windows update without bugging users23:10
l1Ll1Ll1Llol jesus23:10
|Night|defualt setup is also flawed, but can be fixed with gpos23:11
IIIdefconIIIhi quick question, (i hope_ when i open search youre computer, nothing is showed) any fix?23:11
l1Ll1Ll1Ldid you read about that android exploit that allows an app to take over the UI without exposing its behavior to the user, which google called not a bug but a feature?23:11
|Night|yeah :p23:12
|Night|i wrote an ap to test it23:12
IIIdefconIIIneither when the search field is emtpy or when i search example kodi (which is installed nothing is showed)23:12
|Night|transparancy to 100%23:12
l1Ll1Ll1L:O23:12
|Night|track keys23:12
IIIdefconIIIno it says sorry, there is nothing that matches youre search23:12
l1Ll1Ll1L|Night| you work in security?23:14
|Night|yeah23:14
l1Ll1Ll1Lmust be pretty cool23:14
afidegnum is there a way to automatically generate exim4 settings for outlook and thunderbird?23:14
l1Ll1Ll1Lhow did you get started in that?23:14
|Night|did a mastes in infosec23:14
l1Ll1Ll1Lwell that'd do it23:14
|Night|then a gig for EY. now. gov23:14
IIIdefconIIIkali?23:15
tomreynl1Ll1Ll1L, |Night|: since this channel is really just meant for support Q&A, could you kindly continue this chat in #ubuntu-offtopic (requires nickserv registration) (or elsewhere suitable)?23:15
|Night|that is pentesting23:15
l1Ll1Ll1Lsorry tomreyn, you're right23:15
|Night|tomreyn: jsut anwed a question sorry ill get back on topic23:15
IIIdefconIIIanyway does anyone can help me with my problem?23:16
tomreynthanks23:16
|Night|IIIdefconIII:  are you searching one folder or all?23:16
|Night|try terminal "locate" or "find"23:16
IIIdefconIIIall23:16
IIIdefconIIIi think23:16
IIIdefconIIIits not in file explorer, its in the logo in the taskbar23:17
|Night|give it a try in terminal ui uses same catch d23:17
|Night|db23:17
IIIdefconIIIsearch youre computer23:17
IIIdefconIIIhow can i try in terminal sry im a linux noob23:17
|Night|open terminal type locate filename23:17
|Night|or find filename23:17
IIIdefconIIIthat works23:17
IIIdefconIIIfind lots of kodi23:18
CoderEuropeor find *filename*23:18
IIIdefconIIIhuh23:18
|Night|then you are not searching all from ui23:18
IIIdefconIIIi think that triggered it now it sudden working23:18
IIIdefconIIImmm the word settings doesnt at up any app23:19
IIIdefconIIIonly filter CODE works23:19
IIIdefconIIIbut no applications are shown23:19
tomreynIIIdefconIII: try this: mv ~/.cache/software-center{,-backup}23:22
IIIdefconIIIcannot find such file or dir23:23
tomreynwhich ubuntu release is this?23:23
IIIdefconIIIi can cd till .cache23:23
IIIdefconIIIsoftware center not excist23:23
IIIdefconIIIlatest23:23
IIIdefconIII17.0423:23
tomreynis there something like 'gnome software' in that .cache directory?23:24
IIIdefconIIIyes23:24
tomreynwhats the exact name23:24
IIIdefconIIIgnome software :p23:24
tomreynwith a blank?23:24
IIIdefconIIIgnome-software23:24
IIIdefconIIIsry23:24
IIIdefconIIImv ~/.cache/gnome-software{,-backup} ?23:25
tomreynyes, try renaming this, too23:25
IIIdefconIIIand then nothing happens reboot or?23:26
tomreynlogout and login or: unity --reset &23:26
tomreynbut this might loose settings, not sure23:26
tomreynIIIdefconIII: don't do --reset23:27
IIIdefconIII:(23:27
IIIdefconIIItoo late23:27
IIIdefconIIImessed up23:27
tomreynsorry :/23:27
IIIdefconIIIcant do nothing anymore :O23:27
tomreyndoh23:27
tomreynwell logout and login again23:27
IIIdefconIIIx11vnc not working anymore ill try a reboot first23:28
tomreynif that doesn't work then just ctrl-alt-f1 and login there and sudo reboot23:28
tomreynoh you're accessing it remotely?23:28
IIIdefconIIIyes23:28
IIIdefconIIIx11vnc and ssh23:28
IIIdefconIIIrebooting by ssh now23:28
IIIdefconIIIah shit this messed shit up, this was my last unresolved issue tonight im not way further then the end i think23:30
IIIdefconIIIok back on23:30
IIIdefconIIIvnc working again thank goddd23:30
tomreynunity --reset will reset unity to default configuration23:30
IIIdefconIIIand the last problem has been resolved the search computer works now23:30
IIIdefconIIIthanks mate23:30
tomreynso you may have lost some user / profile specific customizations23:31
IIIdefconIIIas long as startup apps are back, which they are im glad23:31
tomreynok, good23:31
IIIdefconIII+ custom shrotcuts artee still intact23:31
IIIdefconIIIfor light control perfect thanks its working all fine now23:31
tomreynso you may want to delete ~/.cache/gnome-software-backup if it still exists23:32
IIIdefconIIIyes will do!23:32
IIIdefconIIIkeep it nice and clean23:32
IIIdefconIIIone more question do23:36
IIIdefconIIIis it possible to image an linux os while its booted?23:36
kk4ewtnot really23:37
IIIdefconIIIlike live capture which is possible in windows..23:37
IIIdefconIIItougt so23:37
kk4ewtin windows it really isnt possible either23:37
IIIdefconIIIthen it will be usb bootable program to do that manually23:37
IIIdefconIIIyes it is im using reflect for years23:37
IIIdefconIIIits making a image of the operation while its running23:37
IIIdefconIIIand it always works when i put the image back23:37
kk4ewtit still misses alot of things in my uses23:37
IIIdefconIIIok23:37
IIIdefconIIItoo bad there isnt a bootloader before ubuntu start which can automate this process23:38
kk4ewtin vms yes23:38
IIIdefconIIIyes ok23:38
tomreynIIIdefconIII: actually you can do so using lvm2 + lvm snapshots23:45
IIIdefconIIIthen i need lvm23:45
tomreynbut this may not work with services which require / expect a certain consistent state such as databases.23:45
IIIdefconIIIdont want to put in a pwd every reboot vor an htpc23:46
tomreyni don't see how lvm relates to passwords23:47
tomreynmaybe you're mixing up LVM and full disk encryption?23:48
IIIdefconIIIah yes proberly23:55
IIIdefconIIIbut nvm il do it the old way23:56
IIIdefconIIIonly have to do it anyway when i do major changes23:56
IIIdefconIIIgot to get some sleep bro thanks for the help23:56
IIIdefconIIIyou really solved my annoying last issue23:56
IIIdefconIIIgood night!23:56

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