[00:05] <wiggmpk> The default backup solution in Gnome Ubuntu is Deja Dup, yes?
[00:06] <[n0mad]> yeah
[00:08] <wiggmpk> [n0mad]: are you familiar with it? I have never used it, wondering if it creates an image? much like a nandroid backup with Android Devices
[00:08] <[n0mad]> not overly familiar with it. i haven't used it in a little while but no, it's not like a nandroid
[00:09] <[n0mad]> it backs up what you tell it to back up and omits what you tell it to omit
[00:09] <[n0mad]> primarily good for backing up your user data so that if you have to reinstall you can easily restore your user data
[00:09] <[n0mad]> that's the impression I get from it anyways
[00:10] <wiggmpk> [n0mad]: I see, so if I already have a separate /home partition it would be pretty redundant?
[00:10] <wiggmpk> unless of course the disk fails =P
[00:10] <[n0mad]> yes, that's my impresssion
[00:12] <wiggmpk> [n0mad]: if I used it to backup just my /home/user directory, excluding anything large, it should restore configs like shell extensions, shortcuts, all that jazz?
[00:13] <[n0mad]> yes, anything that is in the include
[00:13] <wiggmpk> [n0mad]: thanks mate
[00:13] <[n0mad]> no problem
[00:29] <neopaws> in order to copy files from serverA to serverB do i type: rsync -azh /local/path/file user@serverB.com:/remote/path/file on the serverA?
[00:30] <neopaws> do i run the rsync command on serverA?
[00:33] <[n0mad]> neopaws: i'm no rsync expert and actually just told myself i need to figure it out but your example above seems to match what is indicated on the man page screenshot i was looking at
[00:34] <[n0mad]> and yes, you'd want to run that from server a to push to server b
[00:51] <koffel> anyone using a Ceton InfiniTV 4 ?
[00:52] <leftyfb> koffel: are you conducting a survey?
[00:54] <koffel> no just wonderning
[00:54] <sebsebseb> !ot
[00:57] <koffel> leftyfb they say it supported by ubuntu
[00:57] <koffel> that why i am asking
[01:13] <null_r3f> Can anyone help me understand what software creates the “display” in the “-display :0” parameter for x11vnc? After changing to the Nvidia proprietary driver my x11vnc server is failing to start at boot. Error references being unable to open “display :0"
[01:15] <oerheks> koffel, Linux is not a supported operating system for InfiniTV, but they provide drivers http://cetoncorp.com/infinitv_support/linux_drivers/ and mythtv did support the card https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Ceton_InfiniTV_4
[01:17] <oerheks> null_r3f, why not just reinstall x11vnc server? that would do the trick i guess
[01:18] <null_r3f> oerheks: I think this is a configuration issue, not install issue. I had to configure the program to start at boot myself
[01:19] <oerheks> did you install nvidia in this session? never restarted vnc?
[01:20] <oerheks> btw configuration issue could be fixed as you use a different device driver
[01:21] <null_r3f> I installed the Nvidia prop driver through a VNC session, then rebooted
[01:22] <null_r3f> oerheks: I’d like to understand how linux boots and creates this “device :0” abstraction though. Somehow installing the nvidia driver stopped creating that or created it in a different way than expected
[01:30] <thatlizdude> hello, my FAT32 external hard drive isn't showing up on Ubuntu, what can I do?
[01:31] <PipeItToDevNull> thatlizdude, it it not showing up as a device at all, or just not in your file manager?
[01:32] <thatlizdude> i'm new to Ubuntu, it's not in the file manager
[01:32] <thatlizdude> it's a fresh install of Ubuntu
[01:33] <thatlizdude> am i supposed to install some package to show FAT32?
[01:33] <PipeItToDevNull> That is native  to Ubuntu
[01:33] <PipeItToDevNull> Do "lsblk" in a terminal
[01:34] <PipeItToDevNull> How many drives are in the PC
[01:35] <thatlizdude> oh wait
[01:35] <thatlizdude> now it gave me error message when i plugged it in
[01:35] <thatlizdude> unrecognized 'exfat' format
[01:37] <thatlizdude> i guess it's formatted as exfat
[01:37] <oerheks> oh, exfat, sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils # and restart your filemanager and plug in the hdd
[01:37] <oerheks> ubuntu is not allowed to include the driver :-(
[01:37] <PipeItToDevNull> Does Ubuntu not have native exfat support?
[01:37] <PipeItToDevNull> Weird
[01:37] <oerheks> yes it does, but not OOTB
[01:37] <PipeItToDevNull> Yay Microsoft
[01:37] <oerheks> !info exfat-fuse
[01:38] <oerheks> https://www.howtogeek.com/235655/how-to-mount-and-use-an-exfat-drive-on-linux/
[01:40] <thatlizdude> thank you!!!
[01:40] <thatlizdude> probably stupid question, but how do you restart the file manager?
[01:40] <oerheks> that beautifull red button with an X
[01:41] <thatlizdude> oh just close it, ok :D
[01:41] <thatlizdude> thanks
[01:41] <oerheks> have fun
[01:45] <sebsebseb>  
[02:55] <cncr04s> anyone in here help me with a sfp+ 10gig setup?
[02:56] <cncr04s> card to card via sfp+ cable, can't talk to the other
[02:56] <cncr04s> can't figure this out
[02:56] <sebsebseb> cncr04s:  lt
[02:56] <sebsebseb> cncr04s: not sure your issue quite, but try ##linux more active there currently than here
[02:57] <bomb> Should I install 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu on a low-memory (<4GB) PC?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> bomb: how much ram?
[02:59] <bomb> sebsebseb: 1 gig
[02:59] <sebsebseb> bomb: I have done 64bit on  1gb i belive
[02:59] <sebsebseb> lap top but
[03:00] <sebsebseb> net book but
[03:00] <bomb> 32-bit seems to be the obvious choice, but I'd like to know if I can still benefit from 64-bit
[03:00] <sebsebseb> but if I remember correctly with less than 4gb  ram
[03:00] <sebsebseb> better off with 32bit apparnatly
[03:00] <sebsebseb> bomb: you might be able to a bit still
[03:00] <sebsebseb> but probably not by much
[03:00] <bomb> hmm
[03:01] <sebsebseb> bomb: could ask in ##linux for other opinions, its more active there right now
[03:01] <sebsebseb> and your question is general
[03:01] <sebsebseb> not distro spedcific
[03:01] <bomb> ah, thanks
[03:55] <sebsebseb>  
[04:02] <blackdalek> Does anyone here know how to use remmina remote desktop? I want to get remote desktop access to another computer on my LAN.
[04:05] <sebsebseb> blackdalek: maybe in ##linux this channel isn't as active currently as it once was hmmm it seems
[04:05] <sebsebseb> in recent days
[04:27] <thatlizdude> hello, I was creating a Plex media sever, and it didn't load any of my files, and I think that it is because of permission issues, did anyone here encounter this?
[04:28] <kDycu> Hey, so I just upgraded to 16.04 from 14, and I guess we don't run scripts on startup through init.d?
[04:28] <kDycu> sooo how do I go about that now?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> kDycu: See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers :)
[04:32] <vbotka> kDycu, you might want to take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[04:32] <pandoxer> Guys, I'm looking to install Ubuntu alongside with Win10 but it seems quite a pain to remove it after (requires Win instalation media and some more work to remove it from the EFI menu). What I am going to do can't be done on a VM (requires GPU). So what are my options here? I know wubi's not a thing anymore, and that what I'd use a couple years ago
[04:33] <kDycu> ahh thanks, I'll take a look at that. It took me way too long to figure out in the first place why all of my stuff was broken now!
[04:35] <pandoxer> Am I in the wrong channel for this?
[04:40] <l1Ll1Ll1L> pandoxer if you are just going to remove ubuntu after you are done, why not just boot from live media for whatever you need to do?
[04:41] <pandoxer> I don't think I can manage to install GPU drivers in a live session
[04:42] <pandoxer> I'll check this, actually
[04:42] <l1Ll1Ll1L> check this out https://askubuntu.com/questions/519109/how-to-boot-a-live-system-with-proprietary-ati-drivers-fglrx
[04:43] <l1Ll1Ll1L> looks like you should be able to!
[04:44] <pandoxer> sick! my flashdrive is not very big though. But I think this can do the trick
[04:46] <l1Ll1Ll1L> sweet, good luck
[04:47] <pandoxer> "The propriety drivers will not work with persistence, you need a custom iso, initrd really." first comment on that answer :(
[04:47] <l1Ll1Ll1L> hmm. tjat
[04:47] <l1Ll1Ll1L> *that's lame
[04:48] <pandoxer> and ubuntu builder was discontinued
[04:48] <pandoxer> damn
[04:48] <l1Ll1Ll1L> try manjaro live, that can boot with proprietary drivers
[04:48] <l1Ll1Ll1L> unless for some reason you absolutely need ubuntu
[04:51] <pandoxer> I think it's gotta be ubuntu. Those machine learning frameworks are quite unreliable on other distros
[04:52] <pandoxer> Maybe I should just do a regular ubuntu install then and figure out an easier way to remove after
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> l1Ll1Ll1L: please dont suggest manjaro in the ubuntu channel
[04:54] <l1Ll1Ll1L> feel free to suggest a method of booting ubuntu live with proprietary drivers then lotuspsychje... I love ubuntu, but if someone has a problem I can help them solve with a different tool I won't pretend it doesn't exist.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> l1Ll1Ll1L: if you dont know, other might be able to help and avoid suggesting other distro's
[04:55] <l1Ll1Ll1L> then be that other
[04:56] <l1Ll1Ll1L> linux isn't a competition :)
[04:57] <l1Ll1Ll1L> in any case pandoxer you should be able to delete ubuntu and leave grub when you are done
[04:57] <ruicruz> hello there. I am trying to put a original windows 10 iso on a flash drive and using unetbootwin, but it takes only 5 seconds to create and does not copy the iso. is there any other way to create a bootable usb disk witha windows iso on ubuntu?
[04:57] <l1Ll1Ll1L> that shouldn't be too difficult to figure out I'd think, best of luck
[04:57] <pandoxer> I'd like to keep the original windows boot loader though, l1Ll1Ll1L
[04:57] <pandoxer> But it shouldn't be too hard. Even though it seems I'll need a recovery drive regardless
[04:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> yeah that I can't help you with, my only Windows' I keep well contained in their little VMs
[04:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> actually that makes me think of another option, you could always use another hard drive if you have one lying around
[04:59] <pandoxer> Good suggestion, but sadly Idon't
[04:59] <l1Ll1Ll1L> blast and damnation.
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !winsub | ruicruz
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> !winusb | ruicruz
[05:02] <ruicruz> thanks lotuspsychje. was reading about it on ask ubuntu just now. thanks for the tip.
[05:05] <pandoxer> anyway. Here I go. Have a good one guys!
[05:05] <l1Ll1Ll1L> yeah good night and good luck!
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[05:37] <kDycu> Can you autostart graphical program on boot through upstart? I'm not sure if my script is just crap or if I'm trying to do something that simply doesn't work
[05:38] <donught> what de are you running?
[05:38] <kDycu> Technically Lubuntu 16, but it's quite mangled at this point
[05:39] <donught> doesnt lxde have autostart settings
[05:39] <donught> ahh LXsession can do that for you
[05:40] <donught> just add a .desktop file to ~/config/autostart
[05:40] <donught> opps ~/.config/autostart
[05:48] <daxorid> Is there any way to get the include files along with the libs in libboost-all-dev ?
[05:48] <daxorid> It'
[05:49] <daxorid> s installing the actual libraries, but no include files
[05:54] <daxorid> I'm unable to find any reason via google that libboost-all-dev wouldn't install the include files.
[05:58] <ruicruz> lotuspsychje any alternatives on winusb out there? site is not updates since 2014 and i dont think I can install  this on my 16.04 ubuntu, I got always no such package
[05:58] <ruicruz> I just want to burn a windows iso on a usb flash drive :p
[05:59] <donught> you can use dd
[05:59] <donught> but its involved
[06:00] <donught> is it a uefi windows iso?
[08:02] <ccha> hello, I installed 16.04. is it normal that network-manager is not installed ?
[08:04] <ikonia> ccha: it should be installed by default
[08:04] <ikonia> you installed ubuntu (not kubuntu/xubuntu etc)
[08:04] <ikonia> ccha: how are you verifying network manager is not installed
[08:04] <ccha> In fact I don't really care about NM. I want for ipv6 link local not eui64 but random one
[08:04] <ccha> I don't have network
[08:04] <ikonia> what do you mean you don't have network
[08:04] <ccha> when untill I setup ipv6
[08:05] <ccha> I don't want to have network before I setup correctly ipv6
[08:05] <ikonia> how are you verifying you don't have network manager installed ?
[08:05] <ccha> My 1st step I need to not let link local to have the eui64
[08:06] <ikonia> how are you verifying you don't have network manager installed ?
[08:06] <ccha> I read to not have eui64 need NM
[08:06] <ccha> http://vk5tu.livejournal.com/57160.html
[08:06] <ikonia> no
[08:06] <ikonia> how are YOU verifying you don't have network manager installed
[08:07] <ccha> un  network-manager
[08:07] <ikonia> un network-manager ?
[08:07] <ccha> about dpkg -l network-manager
[08:07] <ikonia> what does that mean
[08:08] <ikonia> ccha: have you installed ubuntu 16.04 desktop media
[08:08] <ccha> yes I have the media
[08:08] <ccha> I mount it
[08:09] <ikonia> no
[08:09] <ikonia> have you INSTALLED ubuntu 16.04 desktop install
[08:09] <ccha> not deskto
[08:09] <ccha> server version
[08:09] <ikonia> ccha: right, so thats important to state
[08:10] <ikonia> ccha: can you do "nmcli"
[08:10] <ccha> The program 'nmcli' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[08:10] <ccha> apt install network-manager
[08:10] <ikonia> ccha: ok, so there is your answer,
[08:11] <ccha> but Do I really need NM for ipv6 not uei64 for link locla?
[08:12] <ccha> I don't find how to change the auto generate ipv6 link local
[08:50] <asr77> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.5
[08:51] <asr77> are all these download links dead or is it just me?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> just you
[08:52] <asr77> i knew that was coming.. :(
[08:53] <asr77> any chance you could download it and send it to me?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> several versions are available.  ubuntu 32 or 64?
[08:53] <asr77> i get download failed straight away
[08:53] <asr77> ubuntu 64-bit please
[08:54] <cfhowlett> asr77, try this in your terminal:  wget https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/17.04/main/pool/main/i/intel-graphics-update-tool/intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.5_amd64.deb
[08:55] <asr77> that seems to have worked, thanks!
[08:56] <ikonia> I strongly advise you not to use that tool
[08:56] <cfhowlett> ikonia, ???
[08:56] <ikonia> what's ?
[08:57] <cfhowlett> which tool do you speak of?
[08:57] <ikonia> the intel-graphics-update-tool
[08:59] <asr77> why?
[09:00] <ikonia> because it pulls software direct from the internet outside of the package manager, and when the components it's updating/depend-alongside are managed via the package manager, this is not a situation I believe you should want to be in
[09:00] <asr77> oh it probably won't work anyway, i was going to try it on a live cd with no internet connection
[09:01] <ikonia> it also pulls components that are "generic" and not tested with the specific versions of components that ubuntu ship, and with it not being managed via the package manager, this can make it troublesome to roll back
[09:01] <ikonia> the livecd is already running, how do you expect it to update something thats already running (your X server)
[09:02] <asr77> i know the update won't be perminant, i just need to test it works
[09:04] <ikonia> no
[09:04] <ikonia> how do you actually expect it to update the running X server...
[09:05] <asr77> i'm hoping it'll give me a screen resolution that's useable
[09:05] <ikonia> how do you actually expect it to update the running X server...
[09:06] <ikonia> the X Server is running, the intel components are loaded in it....how can you update it while it's running
[09:06] <ikonia> asr77: have you got a problem with your resolution ?
[09:07] <asr77> can i restart x server?
[09:07] <asr77> i need to rotate the screen 90 degrees, but the screen isn't recognised
[09:08] <ikonia> asr77: it sounds like you need to state your problem and see if will people will help you, rather than stating the fix you are trying to do
[09:08] <ikonia> state as much info as clearly as possible, and see if someone in the channel will help
[09:08] <asr77> hmm on forums people usually like you to state what you've tried before going in with a problem which could be simple to fix
[09:09] <ikonia> eg: I'm using ubuntu 16.04, with an intel 915 card, I'm trying to run a 1024x720 display in portrait mode, but my display is not visible in the resolution tool
[09:09] <ikonia> asr77: there is nothing wrong with trying stuff, but it strikes me as you have not thought this through
[09:09] <ikonia> asr77: what makes you think this will fix it (more so when you don't really know what it does or how to use it)
[09:10] <asr77> it's the first thing i'm trying.. i've overcome a lot of obstacles just to get it to boot up..
[09:11] <ikonia> right, but it seems quite random and not really thought out or understood
[09:11] <ikonia> up to you, just seems better to ask for help with the problem, rather than asking for help how to do a random fix that you don't really understand or have any reason to think will do anything
[09:11] <asr77> well i'm learning as i go, that's how we all learn isn't it?
[09:11] <sobersabre> hi. Is there a way to automagically manage resolutions of various external/built-in displays your laptop may connect to?
[09:11] <ikonia> no
[09:11] <ikonia> asr77: doing random things isn't learning as you go, it's just that, random things
[09:12] <ikonia> sobersabre: xorg should detect your displays and adjust appropriate
[09:12] <sobersabre> I am running from customer to customer, and some give me 4k reso, some fhd, etc. and each display has different ppi, so ... it should be something that can remember.
[09:12] <ikonia> sobersabre: it should detect and configure them as you plug them in
[09:13] <asr77> how is downloading a graphics update tool to fix a graphics related problem a "random thing" ?
[09:13] <ikonia> asr77: you don't even know how it works, you don't know the problem, and you don't know how to use it
[09:13] <ikonia> asr77: so it's random
[09:14] <asr77> how do you know what i know? are you psychic now?
[09:14] <ikonia> asr77: because you told me earlier
[09:14] <asr77> a very brief outline
[09:15] <ikonia> no you where going to try it on a machine with no internet connection
[09:15] <ikonia> if you knew how it worked/what it did - you wouldn't have been doing that
[09:15] <asr77> maybe i'll give it an internet connection later, i'll see how it goes..
[09:16] <ikonia> you're just doing random things
[09:16] <ikonia> I'll leave you to it
[09:16] <asr77> have a great day :)
[09:16] <ikonia> you should work through and understand the problem though if you want to learn
[09:16] <ikonia> rather than just clicking/hitting random things
[09:21] <minimec> asr77: So... what do you really want. As I understand you have a INtel GPU and you want to rotate the screen. Also it seems that your not happy with the default resolution. Is that correct?
[09:25] <sobersabre> the problem is the sizes of the fonts as of now are given in PIXELS.... anyways, I think the computer  enough information to determine and adjust sizes, etc. but I have yet seen this actually working.
[09:25] <sobersabre> I'm using pretty standard laptops (mainly thinkpads T4xx and up)
[09:26] <sobersabre> ikonia: I have noticed 1-2 setups usually work, but more do not. I don't have the time to research too much.
[09:30] <minimec> sobersabre: The easiest way is probably to create a script for each client with some xrandr commands. You would then be able to just launch the script, once you need it. For scaling, you could do something similar as 'xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 1.5x1.5'
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !ping
[10:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:51] <samgoody> My web server issues variuos shell commands such as to image magick using exec in php
[10:52] <samgoody> is there a way to see all the last commands issued by the web server in bash?
[10:52] <hanmac>  do-release-upgrade says that it can't upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04, any idea what i can do to make it working? i think the unity packages and other stuff are the problem
[10:52] <ikonia> samgoody: it doesn't issue them via a shell normally
[10:52] <cfhowlett> hanmac, paste the error messages
[10:52] <ikonia> samgoody: it will call them via the libraray/api
[10:52] <samgoody> OK, does that mean it is not logged anywhere?
[10:53] <ikonia> samgoody: no that means exactly what I've just said
[10:53] <ikonia> samgoody: what is the actual problem you are trying to fix
[10:53] <samgoody> The images out put by imagemagick have suddenly changed. I want to know what the commands were that ran
[10:54] <ikonia> in what way changed ?
[10:54] <IhrFussel> Where do I need to put my Bash script if I want it to run only ONCE per restart?
[10:55] <ikonia> IhrFussel: once per restart of what ?
[10:55] <IhrFussel> Of the OS/machine
[10:55] <ikonia> what OS ?
[10:55] <IhrFussel> Xubuntu
[10:55] <ikonia> IhrFussel: you can put it where you want, use the @reboot cron entry
[10:55] <samgoody> Instead of it outputting a cropped image 100x150 it now outputs an image 100x4. U
[10:56] <ikonia> samgoody: so the apache logs should show the outputting of an image
[10:56] <ikonia> samgoody: what is the application that calls image magic
[10:56] <samgoody> In nginx. No errors
[10:56] <ikonia> samgoody: sorry-, nginx,
[10:56] <ikonia> samgoody: what is the application that is calling imagemagik
[10:57] <samgoody> A php page (so i presume fast-cgi) that uses exec()
[10:57] <ikonia> samgoody: "a php page" who wrote the php page ?
[10:57] <samgoody> Fred
[10:57] <samgoody> Part of Fred's magical scripts
[10:58] <ikonia> http://www.fmwconcepts.com/imagemagick/
[10:58] <ikonia> these ?
[10:58] <samgoody> yup
[10:58] <samgoody> And I tried calling the script from the command line, just now
[10:58] <ikonia> samgoody: so if you turn up the debuggin on the PHP ini you should get a lot more verbose output
[10:59] <samgoody> Output was the same. so skip nginx and fast-cgi. OK, will do that
[10:59] <ikonia> samgoody: the guys in ##php can guide you with some far better (than I) PHP debugging practices
[11:01] <samgoody> I thought there might be something in Ubuntu that was lower level that tracked all calls. Hence my asking here. Thanks for your help
[11:01] <ikonia> samgoody: it's not really like that, as it's most likley (but not certain) making the call via a library, not the shell
[11:09] <serses> Hello I'm trying to setup a pppoe connection with pppoeconf but it doesn't find any devices
[11:17] <tomreyn> samgoody: for shell commands, you could prefix the commands you run by 'rootsh' or 'script' to record the commands run. rootsh is a bit of a misnomer since you can also use it to just record all any commands a standard user runs (no sudo / root involved).
[11:19] <Richard_Cavell> If I write a C program that has assert(0); it exits and says "Aborted (core dumped)".  Any idea where this core is located?
[11:19] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: should be the cwd
[11:19] <tomreyn> IIRC there is none, by default
[11:19] <Richard_Cavell> ikonia: Nope, there's nothing there
[11:20] <tomreyn> you'll need to reconfigure this via sysctl and reproduce the failure
[11:20] <tomreyn> man core
[11:21] <tomreyn> -> Naming of core dump files
[11:22] <Zemtriz_> Hello everyone. I need help with wifi :D
[11:22] <tomreyn> on ubuntu, by default, core dumps are not written to a file but piped into apport, which then decides what to do with it, if anything.
[11:23] <Zemtriz_> I've got problem with wifi. PCI is working but I also tried to connect usb wifi card and is working fine except it cannot connect to wifi :) I just can't change it's state to up
[11:23] <Richard_Cavell> tomreyn: Okay.  I can see this is not going to be trivial.
[11:24] <tomreyn> Richard_Cavell: run 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern' to get a better idea. you can temporarily change this behaviour (until reboot) by echoing something else into /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern - or you can change it permanently by setting the value in a file placed in /etc/sysctl.d/
[11:25] <tomreyn> Richard_Cavell: here's an easy enough example https://sigquit.wordpress.com/2009/03/13/the-core-pattern/
[11:29] <Zemtriz_> Hello, need help with USB wifi adapter. It cannot connect to any AP. Reason is maybe that it can't change its state to UP
[11:29] <Zemtriz_> any help?
[11:32] <tomreyn> Zemtriz_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/98702/how-to-unblock-something-listed-in-rfkill
[11:33] <Zemtriz_> marek@marek-N240BU:~$ rfkill list all 0: hci0: Bluetooth  Soft blocked: no  Hard blocked: no 1: phy0: Wireless LAN  Soft blocked: no  Hard blocked: no 2: phy1: Wireless LAN  Soft blocked: no  Hard blocked: no
[11:33] <Zemtriz_> nothing is blocked
[11:34] <tomreyn> okay, so it's something else, what's your hardware? lsusb | grep -i wireless
[11:36] <Zemtriz_> can it has something to do that I have already connected wifi from PCI card?
[11:37] <Zemtriz_> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
[11:38] <Zemtriz_> Maybe I could change state of PCI adapter to down and then USB adapter to up
[11:38] <tomreyn> unless signalling interferes with the pci chip it shouldnt stop the usb chip from associating
[11:38] <tomreyn> right, i would try that, first, rule out any possible influences by that other card.
[11:39] <tomreyn> what's your ubuntu release? lsb_release -ds
[11:40] <Zemtriz_> Ubuntu 17.04 but I use gnome flavour
[11:40] <tomreyn> are you using the default kernel of this release? cat /proc/version
[11:45] <tomreyn> Zemtriz_: ^ see above and also check whether, with the usb stick connected, "ubuntu-drivers devices" lists any proprietary drivers / firmwares available for your USB connected WLAN device.
[11:45] <Zemtriz> I'm back. Had to restart my laptop. Because after changing PCI adapter state to down, I couldn't set it again to up
[11:45] <tomreyn> hmm, weird.
[11:46] <tomreyn> are you using the default kernel of this release? Run "cat /proc/version". also check whether, with the usb stick connected, "ubuntu-drivers devices" lists any proprietary drivers / firmwares available for your USB connected WLAN device.
[11:47] <Zemtriz> Linux version 4.10.0-26-generic (buildd@lcy01-09) (gcc version 6.3.0 20170406 (Ubuntu 6.3.0-12ubuntu2) ) #30-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 27 09:30:12 UTC 2017
[11:47] <Zemtriz> this usb device should be compatible. Because it is working in monitoring mode find and other, just in managed mode it can't join any wifi. And what I found is, that it has problem to turn its state to up
[11:47] <Zemtriz> gonna try to use wicd
[11:49] <tomreyn> you could also use nm-cli and iw /iwconfig / ilist
[11:50] <tomreyn> switching to wicd may introduce new issues rather than help solving this
[11:50] <Zemtriz> oh
[11:51] <tomreyn> i meant to write 'iwlist', not 'ilist'
[11:51] <Zemtriz> it can scan networks
[11:51] <Zemtriz> in nmcli it says disconencted
[11:51] <Zemtriz>  wifi (iwlwifi), 00:28:F8:2E:25:A7, hw  ip4 default  inet4 192.168.100.104/24  route4 169.254.0.0/16
[11:52] <Zemtriz> uninstalled wicd. I think I will restart computer once again
[11:52] <Zemtriz> just in case
[11:54] <Zemtriz_> back
[11:54] <Zemtriz_> it's still there
[11:54] <Zemtriz_> wicd
[11:55] <Zemtriz_> oh god, what I have done
[11:56] <tomreyn> we could only speculate, or you could take a look at /var/log/apt/term.log and tell us
[11:56] <tomreyn> ...or at the output of 'history' (while running a shell as the user you used to run those commands on before)
[11:58] <Zemtriz_> I think I'm lost. tomreyn, will you be still available after 1 hour maybe?
[11:59] <tomreyn> maybe, maybe not
[11:59] <Zemtriz_> ok :D
[11:59] <tomreyn> but surely someone else will be
[11:59] <tomreyn> be sure to take note of those facts you provided and be ready to produce a summary of them.
[12:00] <tomreyn> there is also http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ to help you with this
[12:00] <tomreyn> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/09/%23ubuntu.txt specifically
[12:01] <Zemtriz_> oh, thank you very much
[12:01] <tomreyn> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/09/%23ubuntu.html for a colored variant
[12:02] <Zemtriz_> one more thing. Why is there still wicd when I have uninstalled it?
[12:02] <tomreyn> this suggests you did not uninstall it successfully, or not entirely
[12:03] <Zemtriz_> sudo apt-get purge wicd
[12:03] <tomreyn> dpkg -l '*wicd*'
[12:03] <ioria> Zemtriz_, probably wicd-daemon
[12:03] <tomreyn> any lines starting 'ii' there?
[12:04] <Zemtriz_> dpkg -I "*wicd*" dpkg-deb: error: failed to read archive '*wicd*': No such file or directory
[12:04] <ioria> Zemtriz_, l = L
[12:04] <tomreyn> L is not I
[12:04] <tomreyn> dpkg -l '*wicd*'
[12:04] <tomreyn> or; dpkg --list '*wicd*'
[12:04] <Zemtriz_> it's still thre. Client, cli, curses....
[12:05] <Zemtriz_> daemon, gtk, python wicd and wicd
[12:05] <tomreyn> well, you can uninstall those, too
[12:05] <ioria> Zemtriz_,  also,  autoremove
[12:06] <Zemtriz_> now it looks good
[12:06] <tomreyn> or 'apt purge PACKAGENAME1 PACKAGENAME2 ...' (this may also remove any wicd profiles / configurations, however)
[12:07] <Zemtriz_> yup thank you. I have to go now :( Soon I will be back. Hope will see you again :D
[12:07] <tomreyn> see you, good luck
[12:13] <Richard_Cavell> Is there any work being done on 18.04 LTS?
[12:13] <Richard_Cavell> I really want a long-term-support version of Ubuntu but 16.04 is just slightly too old for me
[12:13] <Richard_Cavell> I'm using PPAs to make up the difference
[12:13] <cfhowlett> Richard_Cavell, work beings after 17.10 is released
[12:17] <hanmac> cfhowlett: there is no direct error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25053139/
[12:18] <tomreyn> Richard_Cavell: what is it that you're missing on 16.04?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> hanmac, sorry my german is kaput.  open your terminal and put export LC_ALL=C      then do the do commands again.  or use the german language ubuntu irc
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !de | hanmac
[12:20] <hanmac> cfhowlett: LC_ALL=C doesnt work with that command: "UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\xf6' in position 8: ordinal not in range(128)"
[12:20] <cfhowlett> so no english output for you.
[12:21] <ioria> hanmac, try    LANG=C   do-release-upgrade
[12:21] <hanmac> LANG=C doesnt work for that too
[12:22] <Richard_Cavell> tomreyn: The version of MAME is too old to support a machine that I want to emulate.  The version of NEStopia is actually too recent - I had to roll back to a previous version.
[12:23] <tomreyn> hanmac: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 do-release-upgrade
[12:24] <hanmac> LANG=en_US.UTF-8 doesn't crash but will be ignored by the program
[12:24] <tomreyn> Richard_Cavell: i see. i guess i'd use PPA's then, too. but this issue does not sound like an ubuntu upgrade could fix it, at leats not the backward compatibility one.
[12:25] <tomreyn> hanmac: so you don't have this locale installed. you can either install it or get help in #ubuntu-de
[12:26] <ioria> hanmac,   type:    LC_ALL=C bash      does it report errors ?
[12:29] <hanmac> ioria: yeah same unicode encode error
[12:30] <tomreyn> hanmac: to enable english (en_US.UTF-8) locales, you would run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales     # (but keep the default german locale if this is your primary language). once that's done, you should be able to run "LANG=en_US.UTF-8 do-release-upgrade" and get actual output.
[12:31] <hanmac> found the curipit it was: LANGUAGE=en_US
[12:32] <tomreyn> hmm i think that's a non utf-8 locale, suggesting your german locale is non utf-8, too. you may want to change that.
[12:35] <hanmac> tomreyn: normaly it should be utf-8 too, but thats not the problem because i want the english output, not the translated one
[12:35] <hanmac> english message is there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25053198/
[12:36] <cfhowlett> hanmac, line 47 - 49 point to the cause
[12:38] <hanmac> i want to go from 16.10 to 17.04 : the problem it seems are the unity packages
[12:39] <tomreyn> must be the last one (line 49) then since you're attempting to upgrade from yakkety (16.10) to zesty (17.04) upgrade, neither of which are pre-releases.
[12:39] <tomreyn> -upgrade
[12:40] <hanmac> will the apt.log be helpful for that?
[12:40] <ioria> hanmac,   grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[12:41] <hanmac> ioria do you want the full apt.log or only the grep?
[12:41] <ioria> hanmac,   the grep
[12:42] <hanmac> my broken grep http://paste.ubuntu.com/25053230/
[12:44] <ioria> hanmac,   i think you have some forced/unsupported pkgs ....
[12:45] <ioria> hanmac,    libboost1.62-dev  , for example, does not exist in yakkety
[12:45] <ioria> !info libboost1.62-dev yakkety
[12:45] <hanmac> yeah, but it will be in zesty
[12:45] <thewillo> is there a guide to recompiling ubuntu completely from source?
[12:45] <thewillo> gentoo style
[12:45] <cfhowlett> hanmac, mixing repos will break things
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !source | thewillo
[12:46] <hanmac> cfhowlett: i don't want to mix repos, i just want from yakkety to zesty
[12:46] <thewillo> ubottu, yeah I've been doing that I was wondering if there's a better way
[12:47] <thewillo> I might have already fixed the problem by compiling bash from source
[12:47] <thewillo> I haven't hit a segfault since I recompiled bash with 7.1 gcc
[12:49] <ioria> hanmac,   apt-cache policy libboost1.61-dev
[12:52] <hanmac> ioria: what do you suspect to see? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25053261/ it was reseted
[12:53] <ioria> hanmac,  i suspected anothe version, but nope
[12:54] <tomreyn> thewillo: if you've got segfaults on bash on a supported release, please be sure to report a bug.
[12:54] <thewillo> tomreyn, it's already well known
[12:54] <thewillo> it's a Ryzen 1700x
[12:55] <tomreyn> okay, got a launchpad bug id?
[12:55] <ioria> !info libboost1.61-dev
[12:56] <thewillo> no... I don't know if it's got one... but the bug is well known in general
[12:56] <ioria> hanmac,  it tries to install libboost1.62-dev  but also on zesty is libboost1.61-dev
[12:56] <tomreyn> thewillo: i got a ryzen 1800x on 16.04 here and bash's not failing, so i'd be interested in more details
[12:57] <thewillo> tomreyn, the bug it triggered by heavy compiling loads
[12:57] <hanmac> ioria: hm okay but shouldn't that try to remove the old package? (i marked it as auto installed)
[12:57] <thewillo> tomreyn, do you compile a lot of stuff?
[12:57] <tomreyn> thewillo: oh that, wasn't that fixed with a microcode update recently?
[12:58] <tomreyn> not a lot, but i do
[12:58] <ioria> hanmac,  sources.list is ok ? i mean security and updates enabled ?
[12:58] <thewillo> tomreyn, yes but the way ryzen patches microcode you can't patch it at boot time, so I'm waiting for motherboard firmware. AMD sent the fix out on the 20th of last month
[12:59] <thewillo> but a lot of people say they fixed it by recompiling bash with newer gcc
[12:59] <tomreyn> thewillo: microcode updates at boot seem to be working fine here. i'm on linux 4.12.0, though, but i thinkt hey worked since 4.10 at least
[13:00] <thewillo> yeah I'm on 4.12 as well
[13:00] <tomreyn> recompiling bash sounds more like a workaround to me, but then you could argue that microcode updates are, too.
[13:01] <tomreyn> i'm on patch_level=0x08001126
[13:01] <thewillo> how do I check patch level?
[13:02] <tomreyn> grep -i microcode /var/log/syslog
[13:02] <thewillo> hold on let me boot up the rig in question
[13:02] <tomreyn> but versions may differ between 1700x and 1800x
[13:02] <hanmac> ioria: i think so, both security and updates should be on ... i am short before hardcoding replacing yakkety with zesty in the file
[13:03] <ioria> hanmac,  that's not recommended , but sometime has worked
[13:13] <lavinho> good afternoon
[13:13] <lavinho> how to compile tplink ue300 driver ubuntu
[13:13] <lavinho> ?
[13:13] <tomreyn> thewillo: we're going offtopic here, but take a look at https://github.com/platomav/MCExtractor - we can chat mor ein #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[13:14] <kDycu> Hello again. I'm having some library issues? I'm getting this error pinbox: error while loading shared libraries: libftd2xx.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:15] <kDycu> and I've tried to follow some tutorials on the internet for installing that but it doesn't seem to have worked, and I really don't know what I'm doing
[13:16] <tomreyn> kDycu: discuss which ubuntu release you are running and which software (which package, where from?) you are trying to make work.
[13:16] <oerheks> kDycu, what are you building and what guide did you follow, an on what ubuntu version?
[13:16] <oerheks> yeah, such sparse info is useless
[13:17] <kDycu> I'm running ubuntu 16.04 , and I'm running a really weird pinball emulation software called Pinbox.
[13:17] <kDycu> and I followed this http://www.ethernut.de/elektor/tools/unix/openocdlin.html
[13:17] <afidegnum> hello, i just apply new firewall settings and COMIT at the end, how do i let the new rules take effect immediately?
[13:18] <kDycu> sorry, I'm not really well versed in linux stuff, I really only know the bare minimum to function (and clearly not even that)
[13:19] <oerheks> kDycu, you seem to miss the FTDI support library, see the bottom part of that tutor
[13:19] <oerheks> wget etc
[13:19] <kDycu> Yeah, I did everything in that bottom part ;/
[13:20] <kDycu> my /usr/local/lib has libftd2xx.so and libftd2xx.so.0 in it
[13:21] <kDycu> and so does /usr/lib
[13:24] <oerheks> hmm 2008 . i am not sure it is going to work
[13:24] <tomreyn> you should definitely try all of this in a VM which you can scrap afterwards, not your live ubuntu
[13:25] <kDycu> Oh I've been backing up as I go
[13:25] <kDycu> this Ubuntu install exists entirely to run this pinball emulation software behind the scenes
[13:26] <kDycu> I've gotten this program working on 14.04, but with some really irritating issues with no sound on startup-- fixed by rebooting usually
[13:27] <kDycu> and I've been trying to get it running on 16 in hopes that it'd fix the weird sound issues :/
[13:35] <tomreyn> kDycu: unlikely, you might be lucky running it on a historic (unsupported, insecure, do not connect to internet) ubuntu release in a 'desktop' VM (such as virtualbox)
[13:36] <kDycu> how does VirtualBox work? like do I run inside of an existing Ubuntu install?
[13:37] <akik> kDycu: it'll be a virtual machine manager in a window. you can also run it headless
[13:39] <kDycu> Can this be something that can launch on like startup? I basically need the whole thing to launch completely automatically without human interference
[13:39] <kDycu> cause it's all actually hidden away inside of a legit pinball cabinet
[13:41] <akik> kDycu: the headless features came with virtualbox 5.0 i think. you can get more information in #vbox
[13:41] <oerheks> kDycu, sure, set autologin and add the application to startup
[13:42] <oerheks> type start* in dash and the menu shows up
[14:20] <Zemtriz_> Hello everyone. Need help to change state of network device. It's always down
[14:24] <Zemtriz_> I need help. Can't connect to wifi with my USB adapter. It just can't change its state to up
[14:24] <Zemtriz_> and if I change state down on another device, then can't change it back to up :D
 be sure to take note of those facts you provided and be ready to produce a summary of them.
 there is also http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ to help you with this
 https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/09/%23ubuntu.txt specifically
[14:30] <tomreyn> thewillo: did you ever get to "boot up the rig in question"?
[14:31] <minimec> Zemtriz_: First check how the stick is initialize after plug with 'dmesg' in the terminal. Check the last 5-10 lines. Then check the output of 'rfkill list'. Also try 'lsusb' and lock for the device number of the device (XXX:XXX). With this number you can also search the net in combination with 'ubuntu'.
[14:39] <tomreyn> thewillo: fwiw, disabling SMT apparently reliably works around the crashes (yes, not a good workaround): https://community.amd.com/thread/215773
[14:40] <realn> hello guys, do you recommend ubuntu lts or the latest version for a developer (not linux dev per se, more android and gamedev, libgdx, and looking to learn other stuff like machine learning etc)
[14:41] <tomreyn> ^ gone
[14:42] <Zemtriz_> Nevermind about thing I said with ip link state. It is down because it is not connected. Looked now into pci adapter. So I have to figure out why it doesn't connect.
[14:43] <_nedR> got disconnected, asking question again,  do you recommend ubuntu lts or the latest version for a developer (not linux dev per se, more android and gamedev, libgdx, and looking to learn other stuff like machine learning etc)
[14:50] <_nedR> quora and general internet suggest LTS so going with that
[14:53] <tomreyn> _nedR: LTS is usually a good choice, you can always upgrade if needed (but not downgrade)
[15:14] <Halleluia> Happy Sunday guys
[15:15] <MarkB2> Halleluia: The same right back at ya.  :-)
[15:22] <Zemtriz> 17:18:10 Zemtriz_  tomreyn? Wifi si working via wicd 17:18:24 Zemtriz_  but I don't unterstand why via networkmanager doesn't 17:18:32 Zemtriz_  it has successfully connected 17:19:04 Zemtriz_  took steps from this forum: https://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=32987 17:19:15 Zemtriz_  had to stop network-manager and restarted wicd 17:19:25 Zemtriz_  but I want it from network-manager :(
[15:45] <thatlizdude> hello, i need to create a group where the user 'plex' and me will have access to specified directory, how could i do that?
[15:53] <thatlizdude> hello?
[15:55] <acresearch> i have text editor not respoding how do i kill it?
[15:56] <AuthoSys> hello thatlizdude
[15:56] <pavlos> acresearch: find the process id and kill -9 pid
[15:56] <acresearch> pavlos: how do i find the process id?
[15:56] <thatlizdude> let me try again lol
[15:56] <thatlizdude> hello, i need to create a group where the user 'plex' and me will have access to specified directory, how could i do that?
[15:56] <pavlos> acresearch: ps -ef | grep "the text editor process"
[15:56] <Zemtriz_> What does it mean "activation of network connection failed"?
[15:57] <ntd> For some reason RTC/hwclock is not being synced with system/kernel time at shutdown/reboot. "standard" xenial-server install, suggestions?
[15:57] <pavlos> acresearch: if you run vi, ps -ef | grep vi
[15:57] <acresearch> pavlos: i don't see which one is the process id?
[15:57] <pavlos> acresearch: if you run nano, ps -ef | grep nano
[15:58] <pavlos> acresearch: what editor are you using?
[15:58] <acresearch> default text editor, it is just called text editor
[15:58] <[n0mad]> gedit
[15:58] <pavlos> acresearch: if you run gedit, ps -ef | grep gedit
[15:58] <acresearch> ok
[16:00] <[n0mad]> thatlizdude: it's not really on topic for #ubuntu but i'm guessing you are trying to get plex to access your files. i just changed the plex config to run as my user to achieve this.
[16:00] <thatlizdude> [n0mad]: ok let me try
[16:06] <thatlizdude> [n0mad]: so if i put the Plex folder inside my Documents folder it should work right?
[16:11] <[n0mad]> thatlizdude: I don't know what you mean by plex folder. if you mean it's files you want plex to see in the folder then yes, assuming that your user has access to the files and plex is running as your user
[16:11] <Zemtriz_> Any ideas why network manager or nmtui can't activate network device? In dmsg it looks following:
[16:11] <Zemtriz_> [14576.311969] wlxe84e063c8196: authenticate with 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 [14576.373936] wlxe84e063c8196: send auth to 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 (try 1/3) [14576.378690] wlxe84e063c8196: authenticated [14581.378943] wlxe84e063c8196: aborting authentication with 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING) [14592.699143] wlxe84e063c8196: authenticate with 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 [14592.759217] wlxe84e063c8196: send auth to 00:4f:62:1d:48:23 (try 1/
[16:13] <thatlizdude> thanks
[16:13] <[n0mad]> this is their guide for permissions: https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200288596-Linux-Permissions-Guide
[16:18] <oldageti> hey guys
[16:19] <oldageti> is there a good chatting software to chaat?
[16:20] <Halleluia> chat where? Yahoo/MSN/IRC/ etc
[16:20] <oldageti> infoencrypt? how do I install it on ubuntu
[16:20] <oldageti> no not skype, pure message sending software, end to end encrypted???
[16:20] <oldageti> not videos
[16:20] <Halleluia> if IRC I suggest irssi.. It's the best
[16:21] <Mathisen> oldageti, signal
[16:21] <oldageti> not irc. it's too difficult. It should have it's own independent platform , like skype,but only Instant messages one to one.
[16:22] <oldageti> can I get a list of them on the ubuntu site?
[16:23] <Mathisen> oldageti, https://tox.chat/ then
[16:23] <renn0xtk9> echo "blacklist usb-storage" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf && sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:23] <renn0xtk9> then reboot
[16:23] <renn0xtk9> then lsusb -t
[16:23] <oldageti> irc is a channel not one to one chat. the same for yahoo,MSN they are public networks , I want something more personal.
[16:23] <renn0xtk9> and witness how you usb stick is mounted with usb-storage as a driver
[16:23] <renn0xtk9> anybody knows WTF ?
[16:27] <oldageti> Mathisen: how to install it on ubuntu, which repo
[16:27] <oldageti> It has video chat though, that's the problem, I am old and not handsome, ugly
[16:27] <oldageti> I don't want them to watch me.
[16:27] <oldageti> I am over seventy.
[16:28] <oldageti> I avoid video chat, as they would urge, me , and I don't want to show myself.
[16:28] <oldageti> Mathisen: I prefer text only chat  , or voice doesn't matter. but video facility is too much for me
[16:29] <Halleluia> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/signal-private-messenger/bikioccmkafdpakkkcpdbppfkghcmihk
[16:29] <oldageti> Mathisen: was up
[16:29] <Mathisen> oldageti, add the repo and install using apt,
[16:30] <Mathisen> oldageti, but if you not sure how a 3.rd party repo affects your os dont do it and go for something else that is included in repo
[16:30] <jer> oldageti, irc is just a 1 to 1 chat, where 1 to 1 means 1 entity to another entity, and entities can be other users, global channels or local channels.
[16:30] <oldageti> I searched for signal, but couldn't find the software on the internet
[16:30] <oldageti> ws uup, it's like absent. or not known maybe, can you help me a bit
[16:30] <jer> it's why the command to send a message is called PRIVMSG <-- =]
[16:31] <jer> oldageti, https://whispersystems.org/ you're starting to sound like a troll
[16:31] <Halleluia> oldagetti: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/signal-private-messenger/bikioccmkafdpakkkcpdbppfkghcmihk
[16:32] <oldageti> jer I am too old to be a troll, trust me.
[16:33] <thatlizdude> [n0mad]: i don't know how you got your Plex setup, but changing users and restarting my laptop did not help :/ I don't know what to do with it
[16:35] <oldageti> jer how do I search add-apt-repo softwares as well on the ubuntu site? It serches *only* packages.
[16:37] <oldageti> jer i can't install it as it's for mobile ?? and not desktop linux
[16:40] <afidegnum> i tried the test exim -v postmaster@your.domain.example  mail is confirmed sent but it doesn't get delivered
[16:40] <afidegnum> port 25 is opened
[16:40] <afidegnum> can you please give a hand?
[16:48] <afidegnum> anyone?
[16:55] <Halleluia> afidegnum try googling it
[17:00] <KOLANICH> hello! are there packages for android ndk?
[17:05] <thatlizdude> hello, i have a Plex permissions issue, where the Plex server cannot access my media files, and i need to fix that. The .mp4 file has these permissions: "-rwx------", and someone in Plex told me that theirs has these: "drwxrwxrwx+". I don't understand the permissions much, but I wanna get this to work. I appreciate any help
[17:06] <JohnDoe2> Hello guys, I'm not sure why iptables is dropping my traffic pushing through tun0, although everything should be allowed. Here's what my iptables-restore takes in at every boot: https://mycode.cf/ruvihupevu.rb
[17:07] <arch-nemesis> Hi, thatlizdude. I imagine plex runs in the background as one user and you log in as a different user
[17:07] <thatlizdude> arch-nemesis: i actually set the Plex user to me, because i don't know how to make a group with me and the 'plex' user :(
[17:08] <thatlizdude> arch-nemesis: if you know how, i could set the user back to 'plex' and i would rather have it as a group
[17:08] <arch-nemesis> If you use 'ps -ef | grep plex' is it running as you or as the plex user. That's one way to check for sure.
[17:10] <arch-nemesis> The files have a user and a group associated with them, which you can see with 'ls -l'. I suspect whatever user plex runs as is not the same as the owner of those files.
[17:11] <thatlizdude> arch-nemesis: ok i got some output from the ps -ef | grep plex but i really don't know what it means
[17:11] <arch-nemesis> That's a list of processes, and the first colum is the username that is running that process.
[17:12] <thatlizdude> it says plex
[17:12] <arch-nemesis> ok, so it's runnning as the plex user :)
[17:12] <arch-nemesis> Maybe you just edited a file to change the user and didn't restart plex?
[17:13] <thatlizdude> i restarted the laptop
[17:13] <thatlizdude> sooo
[17:13] <arch-nemesis> ah, ok. Well that's okay anyway. It's good that it runs as a separate user.
[17:14] <thatlizdude> ok if i go to 'sudo nano /etc/default/plexmediaserver', should i change the 'export PLEX_MEDIA_SERVER_USER=myusername' back to 'plex' user?
[17:15] <arch-nemesis> Sure. it's not required to run it as the same user as you.
[17:15] <thatlizdude> ok
[17:15] <thatlizdude> so what now?
[17:16] <arch-nemesis> I recommend you read up on how those permissions work, but you can kind of think if it like this. the files have a user and a group associated with them, and that string of letters -rwxrwxrwx
[17:16] <arch-nemesis> that's 'read' 'write' and 'execute'
[17:16] <arch-nemesis> for 'user' 'group' and 'other'
[17:17] <thatlizdude> yeah i read some about that
[17:17] <arch-nemesis> so the first set is the permissions of the file owner. The second set is the permissions for users in that group, and the third set is for everyone else.
[17:17] <thatlizdude> okay
[17:17] <arch-nemesis> so you have rwx in the user group, but everyone else has no permission
[17:18] <arch-nemesis> so you could 'chmod +r your_files.mp4'
[17:18] <arch-nemesis> and that will add the read permission to everyone, including the plex user.
[17:19] <thatlizdude> so what does the +r do?
[17:20] <arch-nemesis> +r is like "add read"
[17:20] <arch-nemesis> so it adds the read permission
[17:21] <arch-nemesis> so if you do your 'ls -l' again, you should see it as -rwxr--r--
[17:21] <arch-nemesis> where user, group, and other all have the read permission, but they can't write/edit the files.
[17:21] <thatlizdude> so from what i understand, you have who owns it, perms for who owns it, and perms for everyone else, but what if somebody has like 10 groups and you want specific perms for each group? how would linux handle that?
[17:22] <arch-nemesis> You can, Those are called Access Control Lists. It's a bit more complex to setup.
[17:22] <thatlizdude> i was just asking i don't need that complex system of 10 groups :D
[17:23] <thatlizdude> arch-nemesis: it worked!!! thank you so much!!!
[17:23] <arch-nemesis> No problem!
[17:23] <thatlizdude> i'm starting to like Linux and all the customizations :)
[17:24] <arch-nemesis> Cool. Well good luck. Glad that worked :)
[17:25] <thatlizdude> do you know a good place to learn about Linux? or you just use Linux and learn on the way?
[17:25] <thatlizdude> i just see most people trusting the terminal the most so i wanna learn the commands
[17:28] <arch-nemesis> I've been using it for a long time, so I don't know :) but there are tons of resources. I'd say use it, set yourself up with a project you're interested in and keep learning.
[17:33] <Lord-Kamina> Hello.
[17:34] <Lord-Kamina> What's the suggested/preferable way to make a persistent LiveUSB that actually works?
[17:40] <DJones> Lord-Kamina: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent This is the recommended method
[17:41] <DJones> Its always worked for me
[17:43] <liorolr> hi
[17:43] <liorolr> e lists... Done
[17:43] <liorolr> W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/antonbatenev:/tox/xUbuntu_17.04  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F2AA0B1E5EF83
[17:43] <KettleCooked> My ubuntu server 16.04 runs two 500gb drives in software raid 1 (mirrored), and lately the system has started having trouble reading the drives. I can usually boot up, but operations start running super slow (like typing simple commands) pretty soon after boot, and sometimes I get DMA access errors for my sda/sdb devices. Question: what's my best bet to copy the important data from the system? Was thinking of mounting in another
[17:43] <KettleCooked> system, but not sure if I can boot without running that as raid as well. what would you do?
[17:43] <liorolr> ?when I add that repo and install ggpg error?
[17:43] <liorolr> sorry when I update, I get tht error
[17:43] <liorolr> so what should I do?
[17:45] <liorolr> ??
[17:46] <liorolr> ayone is here
[17:48] <DJones> liorolr: People are here, but given the lack of response, they don't know about problems with this external repo's
[17:50] <BluesKaj> liorolr,  as you were asked to do in ##linux, ask in #vpn
[17:51] <oerheks> liorolr, there si a post that gives the solution with that key, not sure it will work https://askubuntu.com/questions/793156/how-do-i-install-qtox-in-ubuntu-16-04
[17:52] <DJones> liorolr: With it not being a supported repo, you'll probably need to give info on where you've got the repo from, what instructions you're following etc, but as its not a supported Ubuntu package, you probablyy need to ask the owners of the repo about it
[17:52] <Lord-Kamina> Thanks
[17:54] <ca-on-adam> Hello there, about Bind9, I am wondering if anyone knows why "dnssec-validation no" fixes errors trying to resolve some web addresses?
[17:54] <ca-on-adam> I have set up Bind9 in a virtual machine on my LAN to forward DNS requests to a known working nameserver.
[17:54] <Lord-Kamina> DJones, how much space does the live install itself actually require? i.e. how much is it safe to leave as persistent storage?
[17:59] <DJones> Lord-Kamina: Not sure, when I've done it, I used reasonably large usb sticks, so could give 8gb to the installation plus 8gb for /home, I suspect that was overkill, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements says it needs 3.5gb for system as a minimum
[18:05] <stoopkid> is there a libsodium18 package for ubuntu 14.04?
[18:08] <Lord-Kamina> DJones, I'm going to use a 16gb usb.
[18:09] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:09] <afidegnum> i have been trying still but no succecss
[18:10] <sebsebseb> afidegnum: trying with what, I just joined here
[18:10] <afidegnum> sebsebseb: i m trying to make exim4 work
[18:10] <sebsebseb> oh
[18:15] <liorolr> one question
[18:15] <liorolr> why are partial updates supported on ubuntu, and don't result in problems unlike other systems like gentoo/arch??
[18:16] <liorolr> how does ubuntu's package management work regarding this
[18:16] <liorolr> BluesKaj: DJones oerheks hello
[18:20] <liorolr> The certificate for irc.ubuntu.com could not be validated.
[18:20] <liorolr> The certificate claims to be from "tolkien.freenode.net" instead. This could mean that you are not connecting to the service you believe you are.
[18:20] <liorolr> I get error via pidgin?
[18:24] <DJones> liorolr: Looks its its not an issue, but to be sure, I think you can connect to chat.freenode.net instead
[18:25] <DJones> liorolr: irc.ubuntu.com uses the freenode network anyway
[18:29] <liorolr> so which other pidgin network shall I use
[18:30] <liorolr> not irc, AIM,...which one is the best, I know pidgin is not a netwrok but a client, so which available netwrok shall I use inside pidgin, apart from irc, for one to one encrypted chat
[18:30] <liorolr> personal chat
[18:30] <liorolr> irc is a mess of other people interfereing and hacking
[18:31]  * [n0mad] doesn't use pidgin for anything
[18:31] <liorolr> and violating others, especially when you have computer experts on irc. irc is full of computer experts
[18:31] <liorolr> that's the problem with irc
[18:31] <liorolr> DJones: hi
[18:32] <[n0mad]> i only use irc to chat
[18:32] <[n0mad]> and i have no problems
[18:33] <liorolr> [n0mad]: the day you get hacked like me, then will begin your problems
[18:33] <liorolr> :)
[18:33] <liorolr> irc is full of hackers
[18:33] <[n0mad]> i've been on irc for years
[18:34] <[n0mad]> over 10 years, never had a problem
[18:35] <JohnDoe2> Hello, why does 16.04 still pick up IPv6 on reboot, although 99-sysctl.conf has disable_ipv6 and disable_ipv6 has "1" in it?
[18:39] <[n0mad]> JohnDoe2: i'm not familiar with it really but have you tried following this? http://www.neuraldump.com/2016/11/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/
[18:40] <JohnDoe2> yes I looked up a few of those guides and they all say the same thing.
[18:40] <[n0mad]> it makes no mention of 99-sysctl.conf
[18:40] <[n0mad]> only sysctl.conf
[18:40] <[n0mad]> and 3 lines that have to be added
[18:40] <JohnDoe2> only after manually running sysctl -p does v6 actually drop
[18:41] <JohnDoe2> [n0mad] 99-sysctl.conf is just a symlink to sysctl.conf
[18:41] <[n0mad]> ah, ok
[18:42] <[n0mad]> probably require someone smarter than me then!
[18:42] <JohnDoe2> does the network manager have its own settings or something?
[18:43] <liorolr> [n0mad]: you have not been to the hacking chnnels
[18:44] <JohnDoe2> [n0mad] no worries, you can't know absolutely every quirk there is. thank you!
[18:44] <liorolr> [n0mad]: you are not all that experiencedd with other netwroks and DARK channels, wherer real computer experts reside
[18:44] <liorolr> I doubt you even know bash
[18:50] <JohnDoe2> eh screw it, I'm just going to boot with ipv6.disable=1
[18:51] <Ben64> JohnDoe2: ipv6 is important, why disable?
[18:53] <liorolr> [n0mad]: you idiot, why are you nnot saying shit
[18:53] <[n0mad]> excuse me?
[18:53] <[n0mad]> what should i be saying?
[18:54] <JohnDoe2> because it's useless for my use case, Ben64. This is a box that's supposed to only allow outgoing traffic via vpn (ipv4 only).
[18:54] <JohnDoe2> [n0mad] try not to worry, liorolr has no idea about IRC, ping timeouts and such. thanks for your help earlier, however.
[18:54] <Ben64> JohnDoe2: eh ok, having ipv6 doesn't make ipv4 not work though
[18:55] <[n0mad]> haha yeah i'm aware, and np, wish i could be of better help
[18:56] <JohnDoe2> Ben64 true. What I said was out of context I guess. Instead of maintaining separate ip6tables rules for a non-ISP ipv6 tunnel (HE, half my regular speed), and an IPv4 only VPN server, I'd rather not have ipv6 at all for this machine.
[18:57] <Ben64> JohnDoe2: ok
[18:58] <compdoc> I turn ipv6 off for most my servers
[18:58] <JohnDoe2> you don't want to serve sites to ipv6-only clients?
[18:59] <akik> JohnDoe2: you can set /etc/gai.conf to prefer ipv4 connections (precedence lines)
[19:00] <JohnDoe2> akik sounds cool. thank you
[19:00] <akik> JohnDoe2: uncomment the other precedence lines and the last precedence line (there's a comment about it)
[19:01] <JohnDoe2> gotcha I see
[19:03] <Hulio> hi , how to unzip .gz file in command?
[19:03] <Hulio> anyone?
[19:03] <JohnDoe2> gunzip
[19:03] <Hulio> what is the full command?
[19:04] <JohnDoe2> that's it
[19:04] <Hulio> gunzip filename?
[19:04] <JohnDoe2> yes
[19:35] <swensson> When I use VPN, do I need to create a key etc for every device that will use it or can I use the same?
[19:40] <karolyi> hey, is anyone having problems with installing redis-server on 17.04 and getting "Too many levels of symbolic links" systemd erros?
[19:41] <karolyi> after having googled around, it seems it's a bug in systemd but it should have already been fixed
[19:42] <karolyi> halp
[19:42] <ioria> karolyi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/redis/+bug/1638410
[19:42] <karolyi> yeah I found this one
[19:43] <karolyi> not much information thou other than it's systemd
[19:43] <karolyi> I also found the github issue, where they say they have fixed it, yet I still have this error
[19:43] <ioria> karolyi, there's a workaround... (i don't use rtedis)
[19:44] <karolyi> the protecthome stuff? that doesn't help now, tried it
[19:52] <IIIdefconIII>  hi there, all sudden i cannot acces my home folder, can anybody please help? im using a ubuntu system 17.04
[20:02] <pankaj> Hello Guys. Is anybody listening>
[20:02] <Richard_Cavell> Not me
[20:03] <Bashing-om> IIIdefconIII: What can you boot too ? Need to loom at the permissions on "your" /home .
[20:03] <Bashing-om> !asl | pankaj
[20:03] <Bashing-om> !ask | pankaj
[20:04] <pankaj> I installed mutt. Somehow I configured to login to my account. But whenever I send E-mail I get SMTP authentication error.
[20:05] <RonWhoCares> Can anyone make sense of the error: https://pastebin.com/AD9M1P9d
[20:06] <oerheks> RonWhoCares, run updates first before installing anything
[20:08] <Bashing-om> RonWhoCares: cur(1) or cur(l) ? .. trying to download, it is curl , no ?
[20:08] <oerheks> but i think skype stopped 1/july with skype... but that pgp site is valid.
[20:08] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to follow these directions @ http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/03/install-skype-5-0-for-linux-ubuntu-16-04/
[20:09] <oerheks> upsate, then install curl
[20:09] <oerheks> err c/update
[20:09] <RonWhoCares> Just tried.  There are no updates to install
[20:10] <RonWhoCares> That means I am stuck at the error i showed you
[20:11] <pankaj> Bashing-om: I installed mutt. Somehow I configured to login to my account. But whenever I send E-mail I get SMTP authentication error.
[20:14] <oerheks> RonWhoCares, what happens when you run: sudo apt-get full-update
[20:14] <oerheks> maybe some packages are held back, kernel or libc or such ..
[20:15] <oerheks> sudo apt-get full-upgrade
[20:15] <oerheks> 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.2 is available for months now...
[20:15] <Bashing-om> pankaj: Sorry, no ecperience with mutt - await others who have the experience .
[20:15] <RonWhoCares> oerheks: Same as before.  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:15] <oerheks> :-(
[20:16] <pankaj> Bashing-om: SO how can I join the newsgroups and mailing list.
[20:17] <Bashing-om> RonWhoCares: oerheks What shows ' apt policy libcurl3-gnutls ' in a pastebin ?
[20:18] <RonWhoCares> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/Cc1Jbyze
[20:19] <oerheks> RonWhoCares, hmmm last resort, switch apt mirror to main.
[20:20] <oerheks> maybe ca.archive... is behind..
[20:20] <RonWhoCares> I don't know how to do this
[20:20] <oerheks> open dash > sources, or softwarecenter > edit > sources
[20:21] <oerheks> there you will find the updateserver tab
[20:22] <Bashing-om> RonWhoCares: oerheks: Think'n here. One does ' apt show libcurl3-gnutls ' and lo and behold it is curl . So we looking at a PPA issue here ?
[20:22] <RonWhoCares> oerheks: Do you mean 'Software & Updates'?
[20:23] <oerheks> RonWhoCares, could well be
[20:25] <RonWhoCares> I am at the screen where my ppa. are listed
[20:25] <ahi2> tried to boot using img stick and boot menu was readable but then after bootup the video screen was garbled and unreadable. any ideas?
[20:26] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | ahi2
[20:26] <RonWhoCares> Bashing-om oerheks Current list of ppa @ http://picpaste.com/ppa-O4BcEQay.png
[20:26] <ahi2> thanks
[20:26] <oerheks> RonWhoCares, next tab > updates.
[20:27] <RonWhoCares> oerheks: http://picpaste.com/updates-kKigo0JY.png
[20:28] <oerheks> click all tabs, you will find update servers
[20:29] <oerheks> and ehhh.. no xenial security, no recommended updates..
[20:29] <oerheks> why did you disable those?
[20:32] <werstol21> Hi, trying to get an amd driver from support.amd.com .. I can't identify my gpu card. When I run "lspci | grep AMD" I get: 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265] (rev 83)... So is it Radeon R7 M260 or M265?
[20:32] <laszlowaty> driver is probably shared
[20:34] <RonWhoCares> oerheks: N
[20:34] <RonWhoCares> oerheks: This was how it came installed I think.  They are now checked.  Trying updates again.
[20:35] <RonWhoCares> oerheks:  Everything needs updating
[20:36] <oerheks> RonWhoCares, good find.
[20:36] <oerheks> i think you will get kernels too..
[20:38] <RonWhoCares> I will check
[20:38] <werstol21> So have anyone managed to install amdgpu pro 17.10 driver on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[20:39] <IhrFussel> Is there a way to check if a certain FD is open? I need that for flock
[20:44] <RonWhoCares> Now the updates need more updates
[20:46] <RonWhoCares> Kernel is coming in
[20:47] <Gacnt> Hey fellas, I'm trying to compile something with make, but I get https://pastebin.com/1TwgNrLY ... Any suggestions, I've tried installing the libmysqlclient-dev and zlib-dev but having no success
[20:49] <RonWhoCares> I have to re-start
[20:49] <RonWhoCares> I'll be back
[20:51] <nacc> IhrFussel: fds are specific to a process
[20:51] <nacc> IhrFussel: i think you're asking the wrong question
[20:53] <IhrFussel> nacc, I'm putting a lock on FD 200 but I want to check if another process already locks 200 and if so I want to WAIT but ALSO echo something
[20:53] <SOPHorrific> Hello guys.... So I have bought this dedicated server and I have 2 things that has been given to me (host name, IP, username and PW) and (IPMI weblink, username and PW) So I want to install the packages for remote desktop. should I log in putty and try to access internet from the Dedicated server to log in the IPMI or should I be able to log in on my Personnal computer (never used an IPMI)
[20:54] <nacc> IhrFussel: again, fd (esp. the #) is specific to a process, it's not about if they have that fd locked, but if they have the underlying file locked.
[20:54] <SOPHorrific> I have ubuntu 17.04 and I think the putty attempt isnt working for a reason and I should be able to use it via my PC isnt it?
[20:54] <IhrFussel> nacc, ok then I need to know if the file is locked...is there a simple way for that?
[20:56] <thatlizdude> so i'm still having permission problems with Plex. With these permissions, the folder is being read: "drwxrwxr-x", others are "drwxr--r--" and are not being read. I just need to make them all the same so they can be read, i think it's just some simple chmod command, i'm not sure tho, i appreciate any help
[20:56] <nacc> IhrFussel: flock -n 200 will fail if 200 is already locked (may way want to use -E so you get a good return code), then run flock after to wait
[20:57] <SOPHorrific> technically they have the server and theyre giving us access thru the website until we install the packages, do you think  I understand properly?
[20:57] <IhrFussel> nacc, ok that's safe? To use flock twice in a row?
[20:58] <nacc> IhrFussel: i'm not sure what you mean? The first just fails if you aren't able to flock, which is what you want (you need to print a message, you said). Then the second is a retry attempt, which will block until the lock is available
[20:58] <nacc> IhrFussel: if no other process is using the flock, then the first flock will succeed
[20:58] <nacc> IhrFussel: perhaps read `man flock`
[20:59] <IhrFussel> nacc, yes but in case the first flock succeeds...what about the second one then?
[20:59] <nacc> IhrFussel: then you shouldn't run the second one.
[20:59] <nacc> IhrFussel: it's an algorithm suggestion
[21:00] <IhrFussel> So if [[ ! flock -n 200 ]]; then flock -x 200; fi?
[21:01] <nacc> IhrFussel: except that you wanted to print a message if the flock failed
[21:01] <nacc> IhrFussel: that was the whole point
[21:01] <nacc> IhrFussel: the above makes no sense, you should just flock if that's all you needed
[21:02] <CoderEurope> Does anyone have the CLI commands to just test out this (Yunit): https://yunit.io/ ??
[21:02] <thatlizdude> nvm figured it out
[21:03] <IhrFussel> nacc, well I need both...I want my script to lock the file and execute the body contents BUT I also want other instances of the same script to print a message + wait until instance #1 has finished
[21:03] <nacc> CoderEurope: #yunit seems like a better place to ask
[21:03] <oerheks> CoderEurope, "You can also join our IRC channel #yunit at freenode."
[21:03] <nacc> CoderEurope: it's not an ubuntu question at this point
[21:03] <nacc> IhrFussel: right, so then the above doens't do that, clearly.
[21:04] <CoderEurope> I'll never get an answer today :(
[21:04] <nacc> CoderEurope: why do you need an answer today?
[21:04] <CoderEurope> because of reasons.
[21:04] <oerheks> CoderEurope, or through that github https://github.com/yunit-io/yunit/blob/master/CODING.md
[21:04] <nacc> CoderEurope: ok, that's not helpful. good luck in your search.
[21:07] <CoderEurope> ok thanks.
[21:08] <RonWhoCares> oerheks: It works
[21:08] <oerheks> RonWhoCares, yay, have fun!
[21:20] <CoderEurope> Sorry forgotten command to update to 17.04 from 16.04 by CLI ?
[21:20] <x91t> anyone have any idea why after boot kernel mods stop printing? dmesg ONLY shows kernel mod output from startup then nothing
[21:21] <nacc> CoderEurope: you go 16.04 -> 16.10 -> 17.04; `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` with an appropriate value in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades (Prompt=normal)
[21:22] <nacc> CoderEurope: err, without -d, as you want to go through the releases, sorry
[21:22] <CoderEurope> ok cheers.
[21:22] <CoderEurope> trying now.
[21:23] <oerheks> -d will give ardvark 17.10 :-D
[21:23] <CoderEurope> okay - I need 17.04 to check Yunit - so cheers for that.
[21:23] <nacc> oerheks: right :), sorry
[21:25] <x91t> is there an easy way to print to a file/console from a kernel module since apparently every iteration of pr_* and printk stops working after boot?
[21:30] <x91t> ok, is there any possible way at all to get output from a kernel module that actually works? Anything? I've been fighting with this for three days and its getting ridiculous now since debugging is now 100% impossible.
[21:30] <ruicruz> hello there. I need to install libjasper1 for a program but it tells that there is no package but is refered by another package
[21:30] <ruicruz> any idea on how do I install it?
[21:36] <nacc> x91t: you are probably asking in the wrong channel
[21:36] <nacc> x91t: i would suggest #kernelnewbies in OFTC
[21:36] <nacc> ruicruz: what version of ubuntu?
[21:36] <ruicruz> 17
[21:37] <nacc> ruicruz: 17.04?
[21:37] <x91t> ty
[21:37] <ruicruz> yeah
[21:37] <ruicruz> sorry, I didn't knew there where more than one 17.x
[21:37] <nacc> ruicruz: there are two release every year
[21:37] <nacc> ruicruz: in any case, that package stopped existing after 16.01
[21:37] <nacc> *16.10
[21:38] <nacc> ruicruz: what package is claiming to depend/refer to it?
[21:38] <ruicruz> is a package for my country to sign files/e-emails from my identification card
[21:38] <ruicruz> you want the downlaod link or something like that?
[21:39] <nacc> ruicruz: then the package from your country is not compatible with 17.04
[21:39] <nacc> ruicruz: libjasper upstream is dead, replaced by openjpeg: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=812630
[21:39] <ruicruz> :o
[21:39] <nacc> ruicruz: that was teh reasoning, at least
[21:40] <nacc> ruicruz: it looks like since then, the upstream became active again, but it's already out of debian and ubuntu
[21:40] <ruicruz> any way to install it by hand?
[21:40] <ruicruz> I don't think the goverment is gonna fix this soon :p
[21:40] <ruicruz> and indeed I came from 16.04 just... today :)
[21:40] <nacc> ruicruz: i would suggest, if your government is providing supported packages, to not leave an LTS
[21:41] <nacc> ruicruz: 3rd party packages are often likely to break in this way
[21:41] <nacc> and this one seems relatively important to keep working
[21:41] <ruicruz> indeed :/
[21:42] <ruicruz> so, no hard way to install this because it will break something else, right?
[21:43] <nacc> ruicruz: well, given it's been removed, you can probably install the version from 16.10, but it's unsupported and if it is broken, it's unlikely to be fixable
[21:43] <nacc> ruicruz: you might set up a 16.04 VM/container
[21:44] <ruicruz> a vm will not work, as its unlileky I can pass thru the card reader to the vm, afaik in virtualbox at least I never make it work
[21:46] <nacc> ruicruz: you can try what i suggested, it may or may not work
[21:48] <RBoreal_Frippery> Trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on a 7300HQ board. Fresh install and it is extremely slow, moving a single window is a slideshow, and xorg takes 100% cpu constantly. There was an 'intel microcode' available in the additional drivers section, but installing it and rebooting made no difference. Interestingly, I also tried out a 17.04 install on the same hardware, and that worked great. However, there are other reasons that I wish to use 16.04, so
[21:48] <RBoreal_Frippery> I would really like to find out how to fix the problem.
[21:49] <RBoreal_Frippery> I also tried the most recent microcode from here: http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/restricted/i/intel-microcode/
[21:49] <ruicruz> nacc any guide to manualy install libs?
[21:50] <ruicruz> that you can recommend
[21:50] <Ben64> RBoreal_Frippery: did you try 16.04  with linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge
[21:50] <RBoreal_Frippery> No, do you have a link on that? It is just a package you install for specific kernel?
[21:50] <nacc> ruicruz: you'd need to get the .deb and then i'd recommend using gdebi on it
[21:51] <Ben64> RBoreal_Frippery: it gives you the latest ubuntu kernel
[21:51] <RBoreal_Frippery> ok
[21:51] <ruicruz> ok, will try that and see if I can figure it out
[21:51] <ruicruz> thanks nacc
[21:51] <oerheks> RBoreal_Frippery, what GPU do you have?
[21:52] <oerheks> 7300HQ board gives intel,. but maybe you have more
[21:52] <RBoreal_Frippery> Nope, just intel
[21:52] <RBoreal_Frippery> its a laptop board
[21:53] <oerheks> most intel issues are related to standard disabled tearfree and sna > https://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu
[21:53] <oerheks> old post, but still valid
[21:53] <IhrFussel> nacc, I got my solution "if ! flock -n 200; then echo "The bot is busy right now, please wait a bit."; flock 200 || exit; fi"
[21:54] <nacc> IhrFussel: seems reasonable
[21:54] <RBoreal_Frippery> Ben64's suggestion of the kernel package seems to have fixed the issues
[21:54] <RBoreal_Frippery> Thank you~!
[21:58] <Ben64> RBoreal_Frippery: oh you got it working that fast?
[22:02] <RBoreal_Frippery> yup
[22:02] <RBoreal_Frippery> just the package
[22:02] <RBoreal_Frippery> now dkms not working for the other thing I am trying to install, but thats another story :)
[22:13] <ThoMe> have upgradet ubuntu from 16.04 > 16:10 > 17.04
[22:14] <ThoMe> and now hang mein ubuntu with kernel 4.10 with
[22:14] <ThoMe> 0.084000 NET: Regitered protocol family 16
[22:14] <ThoMe> with kernel 4.8 booting fine
[22:14] <ThoMe> any ideas what i can do?
[22:16] <HelloBeer> Hello everyone, there is my problem :
[22:18] <HelloBeer> I try to download the source code of a website with the command wget, but this website requires authentification. I've read that i could use cookies to log me to this website and keep the connexion, but after searching and rtfm, all that i tried didn't work.. Can someone explain me how does it work please ?
[22:19] <HelloBeer> and especially what's the right command to do that, with the right command I can search how does it works
[22:21] <m4dh4tt4> you need access to something you wish to wget, even then, its going to be a rendered version of the source unless its a .html
[22:21] <l1Ll1Ll1L> HelloBeer it might be easier to use a browser extension that recursively downloads webpages
[22:22] <l1Ll1Ll1L> If that would be suitable for your purposes anyway
[22:25] <HelloBeer> it's a .php, yes i know that it would be easier to have an extension, but I want to practice and to know how to log me with wget, is it possible or just a lengend
[22:25] <HelloBeer> ?
[22:25] <l1Ll1Ll1L> Well check this out https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4272770/wget-with-authentication
[22:26] <l1Ll1Ll1L> the second to last answer has a script that does what you want, but it would require tweaking
[22:29] <HelloBeer> yes I tried first and second answer, it creates a cookie .txt but when I try to use wget with the option --load-cookies the source code still is "authentification required"
[22:30] <l1Ll1Ll1L> Hmm. Did you make sure that you got the field names right?
[22:30] <l1Ll1Ll1L> Where is the login page in question?
[22:32] <HelloBeer> that's a copy paste with modification, so i suppose it's right.. the login page is  https://www.newbiecontest.org/forums/index.php?action=login2
[22:33] <l1Ll1Ll1L> did you add the cookielength field to your request?
[22:33] <l1Ll1Ll1L> how about cookieneverexp = true or false?
[22:34] <l1Ll1Ll1L> did you rename password from the example to passwrd in the source of this page?
[22:34] <l1Ll1Ll1L> and is the target page you are using https://www.newbiecontest.org/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=c48a9b3b51b135cb4dc1000e09b041ee&action=login2
[22:35] <IIIdefconIII> @bashing its working now, had to many jpg files in my home folder so it was terrebly slow to ls
[22:35] <IIIdefconIII> TY
[22:35] <Bashing-om> IIIdefconIII: Just pleased you got it figured out :)
[22:36] <HelloBeer> no, cookielength is what for ? and no cookieneverexp neither.
[22:37] <l1Ll1Ll1L> those are both fields in the form you showed me
[22:37] <HelloBeer> I changes the password to mine, but why change password in passwrd ?
[22:37] <l1Ll1Ll1L> because in the source ofthe page it is spelled passwrd
[22:37] <l1Ll1Ll1L> so that is what the server will be looking for
[22:37] <l1Ll1Ll1L> the data will be posted using the names of each element in the form, visible in the source code
[22:37] <l1Ll1Ll1L> or better yet right click > inspect element
[22:38] <l1Ll1Ll1L> and if you go up in the source to the form element, the action attribute gives the URL data should be posted to
[22:39] <HelloBeer> and i didn't understand your last message with the modified url, why do you do that ? (sorry for my response time, I have to translate in english and i'm not fast at that)
[22:39] <l1Ll1Ll1L> see my last comment :)
[22:39] <l1Ll1Ll1L> about the form element
[22:40] <HelloBeer> Ooh ok that's why the fields were never the same on all different forums
[22:40] <l1Ll1Ll1L> yup, it is completely dependent on how the page is written
[22:41] <HelloBeer> Ok thanks, gonne look for that and tell you the progress
[22:42] <l1Ll1Ll1L> sounds like a plan, good luck
[22:44] <oerheks> curl that package perhaps?
[22:53] <HelloBeer> is the curl response for me?
[22:56] <HelloBeer> @l1Ll1Ll1L It works !! I finally used this command : https://pastebin.com/0ZjszcEA
[22:56] <metalbiker> hey guys. i've got a support question.
[22:57] <HelloBeer> but I still don't see the modified URL in the url, even with ctrl+f
[22:57] <HelloBeer> in the source-code*
[22:57] <HelloBeer> Thanks for your help
[22:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> the URL will be different for you because it continues a unique ID
[22:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> ctrl+f "form"
[22:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> than look for target="URL HERE"
[22:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> and np regarding the help
[22:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> oh but you said it worked!
[22:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> awesome :-)
[22:58] <Bashing-om> !ask | metalbiker
[22:59] <metalbiker> i sometimes have a scrambled screen on startup/restart and i get a system error and it seems to be coming from plymouthd and i'm using ubuntu gnome 17.04.
[22:59] <metalbiker> ubottu: sorry. i was going to do just that but i hit enter before i could ask my question.
[23:00] <l1Ll1Ll1L> what is the system error?
[23:00] <metalbiker> ubottu: oh. are you fluent in 6 million languages like C3PO? lol sorry, i'm a star wars fan and just trying to be funny.
[23:01] <|Night|> Hey quick question can i migrate an ecnrupted (ext3/4) between ubuntu instnces+
[23:02] <|Night|> either if i lose system drive and remount drives under a new ssd or move the NAS between vms
[23:02] <|Night|> encrrypted*
[23:02] <metalbiker> the error is something to do with plymothd. i keep forgetting to copy down the exact details.
[23:03] <metalbiker> l1Ll1ll1L: it's got something to do with plymouthd. and then sometimes i get a scrambled screen upon restart or even a cold startup. i'm on a very new lenovo ideapad 310.
[23:04] <metalbiker>  l1Ll1ll1L: i'm using ubuntu gnome 17.04.
[23:04] <l1Ll1Ll1L> hmm I don't know metalbiker, ##linux is pretty active right now, you could ask there too
[23:05] <l1Ll1Ll1L> |Night| you just want to know if you can mount your encrypted drive on a different Ubuntu instance?
[23:05] <metalbiker>  l1Ll1ll1L: ok, i'll go there, too. thank you for help, though. i'll stay on this channel, too.
[23:06] <|Night|> l1Ll1Ll1L:  yes
[23:06] <l1Ll1Ll1L> yeah sorry I can't help more metalbiker don't know where to start on that one
[23:06] <l1Ll1Ll1L> |Night| yep you sure can
[23:06] <|Night|> i have many drives in my system, and if one day i wannt to change from ubntu to arch or cent
[23:06] <metalbiker>  l1Ll1ll1L: it's all good. I appreciate it anyway.
[23:06] <|Night|> l1Ll1Ll1L:  do i need to save keys or will passkey work?
[23:06] <l1Ll1Ll1L> shouldn't be an issue, you are using luks I imagine?
[23:06] <|Night|> passphrase
[23:06] <|Night|> yeah defualt from ubuntu drisk format config
[23:07] <l1Ll1Ll1L> yeah if you want to do it from the command line it is:
[23:07] <l1Ll1Ll1L> cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/device NAME_HERE
[23:07] <l1Ll1Ll1L> (enter passphrase)
[23:07] <l1Ll1Ll1L> mount /location /dev/mapper/NAME_HERE
[23:07] <|Night|> so i only need passhprase and not save some keys
[23:07] <|Night|> with truecrypt i needed a private key + passphrase
[23:08] <l1Ll1Ll1L> yeah, you can do it both ways if you registered a key file
[23:08] <|Night|> cheers :)
[23:08] <l1Ll1Ll1L> if you want to be sure you can do it easily just boot to a live ubuntu and try to mount it
[23:08] <l1Ll1Ll1L> np :)
[23:08] <|Night|> yeah ill do that,   had some fraky with Bitllocker on windows and tpms
[23:09] <l1Ll1Ll1L> never trusted bittlocker myself
[23:09] <|Night|> neah there are some bugs there
[23:09] <|Night|> eg you can "pause" it with a simple command and without password
[23:09] <l1Ll1Ll1L> I am more concerned about back doors
[23:09] <|Night|> then reboot and rootkit
[23:09] <l1Ll1Ll1L> lol
[23:09] <l1Ll1Ll1L> gg MS
[23:09] <|Night|> i told my micrsoft enterprise rep.
[23:10] <|Night|> i got a call from secops, not a bug, but by design to allow for windows update without bugging users
[23:10] <l1Ll1Ll1L> lol jesus
[23:11] <|Night|> defualt setup is also flawed, but can be fixed with gpos
[23:11] <IIIdefconIII> hi quick question, (i hope_ when i open search youre computer, nothing is showed) any fix?
[23:11] <l1Ll1Ll1L> did you read about that android exploit that allows an app to take over the UI without exposing its behavior to the user, which google called not a bug but a feature?
[23:12] <|Night|> yeah :p
[23:12] <|Night|> i wrote an ap to test it
[23:12] <IIIdefconIII> neither when the search field is emtpy or when i search example kodi (which is installed nothing is showed)
[23:12] <|Night|> transparancy to 100%
[23:12] <l1Ll1Ll1L> :O
[23:12] <|Night|> track keys
[23:12] <IIIdefconIII> no it says sorry, there is nothing that matches youre search
[23:14] <l1Ll1Ll1L> |Night| you work in security?
[23:14] <|Night|> yeah
[23:14] <l1Ll1Ll1L> must be pretty cool
[23:14] <afidegnum>  is there a way to automatically generate exim4 settings for outlook and thunderbird?
[23:14] <l1Ll1Ll1L> how did you get started in that?
[23:14] <|Night|> did a mastes in infosec
[23:14] <l1Ll1Ll1L> well that'd do it
[23:14] <|Night|> then a gig for EY. now. gov
[23:15] <IIIdefconIII> kali?
[23:15] <tomreyn> l1Ll1Ll1L, |Night|: since this channel is really just meant for support Q&A, could you kindly continue this chat in #ubuntu-offtopic (requires nickserv registration) (or elsewhere suitable)?
[23:15] <|Night|> that is pentesting
[23:15] <l1Ll1Ll1L> sorry tomreyn, you're right
[23:15] <|Night|> tomreyn: jsut anwed a question sorry ill get back on topic
[23:16] <IIIdefconIII> anyway does anyone can help me with my problem?
[23:16] <tomreyn> thanks
[23:16] <|Night|> IIIdefconIII:  are you searching one folder or all?
[23:16] <|Night|> try terminal "locate" or "find"
[23:16] <IIIdefconIII> all
[23:16] <IIIdefconIII> i think
[23:17] <IIIdefconIII> its not in file explorer, its in the logo in the taskbar
[23:17] <|Night|> give it a try in terminal ui uses same catch d
[23:17] <|Night|> db
[23:17] <IIIdefconIII> search youre computer
[23:17] <IIIdefconIII> how can i try in terminal sry im a linux noob
[23:17] <|Night|> open terminal type locate filename
[23:17] <|Night|> or find filename
[23:17] <IIIdefconIII> that works
[23:18] <IIIdefconIII> find lots of kodi
[23:18] <CoderEurope> or find *filename*
[23:18] <IIIdefconIII> huh
[23:18] <|Night|> then you are not searching all from ui
[23:18] <IIIdefconIII> i think that triggered it now it sudden working
[23:19] <IIIdefconIII> mmm the word settings doesnt at up any app
[23:19] <IIIdefconIII> only filter CODE works
[23:19] <IIIdefconIII> but no applications are shown
[23:22] <tomreyn> IIIdefconIII: try this: mv ~/.cache/software-center{,-backup}
[23:23] <IIIdefconIII> cannot find such file or dir
[23:23] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release is this?
[23:23] <IIIdefconIII> i can cd till .cache
[23:23] <IIIdefconIII> software center not excist
[23:23] <IIIdefconIII> latest
[23:23] <IIIdefconIII> 17.04
[23:24] <tomreyn> is there something like 'gnome software' in that .cache directory?
[23:24] <IIIdefconIII> yes
[23:24] <tomreyn> whats the exact name
[23:24] <IIIdefconIII> gnome software :p
[23:24] <tomreyn> with a blank?
[23:24] <IIIdefconIII> gnome-software
[23:24] <IIIdefconIII> sry
[23:25] <IIIdefconIII> mv ~/.cache/gnome-software{,-backup} ?
[23:25] <tomreyn> yes, try renaming this, too
[23:26] <IIIdefconIII> and then nothing happens reboot or?
[23:26] <tomreyn> logout and login or: unity --reset &
[23:26] <tomreyn> but this might loose settings, not sure
[23:27] <tomreyn> IIIdefconIII: don't do --reset
[23:27] <IIIdefconIII> :(
[23:27] <IIIdefconIII> too late
[23:27] <IIIdefconIII> messed up
[23:27] <tomreyn> sorry :/
[23:27] <IIIdefconIII> cant do nothing anymore :O
[23:27] <tomreyn> doh
[23:27] <tomreyn> well logout and login again
[23:28] <IIIdefconIII> x11vnc not working anymore ill try a reboot first
[23:28] <tomreyn> if that doesn't work then just ctrl-alt-f1 and login there and sudo reboot
[23:28] <tomreyn> oh you're accessing it remotely?
[23:28] <IIIdefconIII> yes
[23:28] <IIIdefconIII> x11vnc and ssh
[23:28] <IIIdefconIII> rebooting by ssh now
[23:30] <IIIdefconIII> ah shit this messed shit up, this was my last unresolved issue tonight im not way further then the end i think
[23:30] <IIIdefconIII> ok back on
[23:30] <IIIdefconIII> vnc working again thank goddd
[23:30] <tomreyn> unity --reset will reset unity to default configuration
[23:30] <IIIdefconIII> and the last problem has been resolved the search computer works now
[23:30] <IIIdefconIII> thanks mate
[23:31] <tomreyn> so you may have lost some user / profile specific customizations
[23:31] <IIIdefconIII> as long as startup apps are back, which they are im glad
[23:31] <tomreyn> ok, good
[23:31] <IIIdefconIII> + custom shrotcuts artee still intact
[23:31] <IIIdefconIII> for light control perfect thanks its working all fine now
[23:32] <tomreyn> so you may want to delete ~/.cache/gnome-software-backup if it still exists
[23:32] <IIIdefconIII> yes will do!
[23:32] <IIIdefconIII> keep it nice and clean
[23:36] <IIIdefconIII> one more question do
[23:36] <IIIdefconIII> is it possible to image an linux os while its booted?
[23:37] <kk4ewt> not really
[23:37] <IIIdefconIII> like live capture which is possible in windows..
[23:37] <IIIdefconIII> tougt so
[23:37] <kk4ewt> in windows it really isnt possible either
[23:37] <IIIdefconIII> then it will be usb bootable program to do that manually
[23:37] <IIIdefconIII> yes it is im using reflect for years
[23:37] <IIIdefconIII> its making a image of the operation while its running
[23:37] <IIIdefconIII> and it always works when i put the image back
[23:37] <kk4ewt> it still misses alot of things in my uses
[23:37] <IIIdefconIII> ok
[23:38] <IIIdefconIII> too bad there isnt a bootloader before ubuntu start which can automate this process
[23:38] <kk4ewt> in vms yes
[23:38] <IIIdefconIII> yes ok
[23:45] <tomreyn> IIIdefconIII: actually you can do so using lvm2 + lvm snapshots
[23:45] <IIIdefconIII> then i need lvm
[23:45] <tomreyn> but this may not work with services which require / expect a certain consistent state such as databases.
[23:46] <IIIdefconIII> dont want to put in a pwd every reboot vor an htpc
[23:47] <tomreyn> i don't see how lvm relates to passwords
[23:48] <tomreyn> maybe you're mixing up LVM and full disk encryption?
[23:55] <IIIdefconIII> ah yes proberly
[23:56] <IIIdefconIII> but nvm il do it the old way
[23:56] <IIIdefconIII> only have to do it anyway when i do major changes
[23:56] <IIIdefconIII> got to get some sleep bro thanks for the help
[23:56] <IIIdefconIII> you really solved my annoying last issue
[23:56] <IIIdefconIII> good night!