[01:16] <JohnConnorFX> Hello everyone..!
[06:23] <fidel> root
[09:53] <r3tr0> hello
[09:54] <r3tr0> Kubuntu is good. but I like mint better /popcorn
[09:55] <r3tr0> where do I find the plasma version agaib, is there a cmd line to show that?
[09:59] <r3tr0> i found it - system info center :D
[10:56] <mparillo> I often use kinfocenter myself, but the kool kids might use plasmashell -v
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:54] <Guest64171> ubuntu - kubunto 17.04 installs both fail in adding grub at the end., I am buffaloed on getting past the lack of grub, whole installation fails.
[14:36] <eew2000> Hello together
[14:38] <eew2000> I am trying to install kubuntu 16.06 64 bit in the vmware workstation 10.01
[14:38] <eew2000> the istallation don't start
[14:39] <eew2000> The intial graphical intallation promt doesn't appear
[14:39] <eew2000> do you guys have some idea on that
[15:26] <mparillo> Do you see a plasma desktop, or nothing at all (perhaps with a black breeze cursor)?
[15:52] <mibi> Grüss gott
[15:53] <mibi> könnte jemand mir mit einen bestimmten synthax helfen ?
[15:54] <lordievader> !de | mibi
[18:06] <Aison0> hello, I upgraded kubuntu from xenial to zesty. Now I have got a strange problem after login to kde. Every 2nd login hangs. Then I have to reboot the machine (or my girlfriend pressed the reset button....) and then the next login works.
[18:06] <Aison0> No idea why
[18:06] <Aison0> I also removed the .kde directory
[18:08] <Aison0> maybe I have to remove something in .config/ ?
[18:29] <GregB> Hey guys, I've recently been beating my head against the wall here trying to figure out why my settings won't save. Im almost all The things that I try to save, nothing get's save.
[18:29] <GregB> For example. In the system settings, I'm trying to change it from Icon view to tree view. That fails. In Muon, I'm trying to enable other architectures. That fails.
[18:30] <GregB> It isn't that the settings aren't working. They aren't saving. So even when I open up the application again. They remain the old setting.
[18:31] <GregB> I've tried running an strace on the process to see what's going on, but there is too much data to even sift through that and there is no blaring, ERROR message that I can find anywhere.
[18:32] <GregB> I've tied to delete the .kde folder, use kbuildsycoca5 --noincremental to rebuild the cache. Apparently an empty .menu file does spit out an error, cleared that, but then nothing. Ran from Konsole and got the message: Saving, but nothing changes and no other messages.
[18:35] <GregB> I am assuming that the settings aren't saving, but truth is, I can't tell that it's not saving, or that the app isn't just loading the default settings. Though I can tell you I changed settings in muon that should have changed the way apt worked, and that did NOT change anything for apt, so I suspect they are not saving at all.
[18:35] <GregB> Anyway, Just wanted to give it all in one shot and give you guys time to read and respond, please let me know your thoughts
[20:44] <valorie> GregB: sounds like you have a permission problem
[20:45] <valorie> this can happen when you run a graphical application as root, for instance
[20:45] <valorie> basically the cure is to "chroot" your $HOME and make it all your own again, and now owned by root
[20:45] <valorie> !chroot
[20:46] <valorie> hmmm
[20:46] <valorie> I think I mean chown!
[20:46] <valorie> !chown
[20:46] <valorie> there we go
[20:48]  * valorie drinks more coffee
[20:52] <GregB> @valorie
[20:52] <GregB> greg@greg-HP-Pavilion-Notebook:~$ find ./ \! -user greg
[20:52] <GregB> greg@greg-HP-Pavilion-Notebook:~$ find ./ \! -group greg
[20:52] <GregB> greg@greg-HP-Pavilion-Notebook:~$
[20:53] <valorie> the use of chown is like: chown -R username folder/
[20:53] <GregB> yeah, chroot is where you change the root of your shell/application to a specific location, like chroot /usr will basically make / /usr and make all calls to /local actually be to /usr/local
[20:54] <valorie> so if you home is ~/greg, you would chown -R /home/greg/
[20:54] <GregB> Your home will always be ~
[20:55] <GregB> So ~/greg is actually /home/greg/greg/
[20:55] <GregB> for example
[20:55] <valorie> usually that does nothing, but if there is a root-owned file in there, it will be changed back to being your own
[20:55] <GregB> chown -R greg:greg /home/greg
[20:55] <GregB> would be what you were looking to do.
[20:56] <GregB> because the only way to change the permissions is to be root.
[20:56] <valorie> not me, but the person with permissions problems
[20:56] <GregB> otherwise that will do nothing.
[20:56] <valorie> wasn't that you?
[20:56] <GregB> yes, it's me.
[20:57] <GregB> But with the find commands, I can tell you there are no files in that directory NOT owned by greg and grouped by greg
[20:57] <valorie> ok
[20:57] <GregB> that's why I was pointing it out.
[20:57] <GregB> Not a owner or group issue.
[20:57] <valorie> removing the ~/.kde folder was never a good idea, but these days it is not much used
[20:57] <GregB> Might be a permission issue on files, but I have yet to know the files I need to change to make the permissions right.
[20:58] <valorie> most config files are in ~/.config or ~/.local
[20:58] <GregB> I did see those directories, but based on what I read, .kde is rebuilt upon login if not found.
[20:58] <GregB> so I made a backup first, of course.
[20:59] <valorie> it is still rebuilt, yes
[20:59] <valorie> because it is still used by "KDE4" applications
[21:00] <valorie> not yet ported or incompletely ported to KDE Frameworks from the older KDElibs
[21:00] <GregB> Ohh, cool
[21:00] <GregB> I have a lot of experience with Centos, but from a headless position
[21:01] <GregB> I'm trying out Kubuntu to get off this damn Windows system I am forced to use for certain applications.
[21:02] <GregB> I used to use Ubuntu and Centos with GUI, even a few BSD's and Some Debian.
[21:03] <GregB> I got tired of constant conflicts with updates and all that, and most were years ago. So now I'm trying Kubuntu again, but this time I'm hellbent on making everything work.
[21:05] <valorie> good to hear, GregB
[21:05] <valorie> I've been windows-free for years, unless I need to use my husband's winbox to pay bills
[21:06] <valorie> he's got some ancient software on there I could probably do as well on linux, but then I'd be stuck with paying the bills all the time!
[21:09] <GregB> @Valorie lol
[21:11] <valorie> all my fossy friends were telling me this and that software that could do the trick, and I was saying, look, you aren't seeing the big picture here
[21:11] <valorie> lol