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| Populus | Hiya | 03:27 |
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| __chip__ | my main machine is doing the cute "don't POST, blink some leds" routine, so I'll probably spend some time with a screwdriver and a cursebook | 08:53 |
| zyga | re | 08:53 |
| __chip__ | zyga: o/ | 08:53 |
| zyga | __chip__: hey :) | 08:53 |
| __chip__ | zyga: how's poland? | 08:53 |
| zyga | __chip__: just as we left it, I think | 08:54 |
| zyga | not much has changed | 08:54 |
| zyga | (including the reasons for not being here in the first place) | 08:55 |
| zyga | in other news, we're looking to move out ASAP | 08:55 |
| zyga | but unable to for some time | 08:55 |
| zyga | how's UK? | 08:55 |
| zyga | still U? | 08:55 |
| __chip__ | zyga: out of the place, or the country? | 08:55 |
| zyga | the place | 08:55 |
| __chip__ | ah, phew | 08:55 |
| zyga | being in the country for now will help | 08:55 |
| __chip__ | UK still divided, still better than ar :-) | 08:56 |
| zyga | "universally divided, we stand united" or something | 08:56 |
| __chip__ | sounds about right | 08:56 |
| __chip__ | anyway, i need to go find a screwdriver | 08:57 |
| zyga | how are things, I'm sorry I was off all morning but I was stuck in "register your company" webbrowser windows hell | 08:57 |
| __chip__ | zyga: <__chip__> my main machine is doing the cute "don't POST, blink some leds" routine, so I'll probably spend some time with a screwdriver and a cursebook | 08:58 |
| ogra_ | wow, i hadnt one doing that in a decade i think | 08:59 |
| zyga | __chip__: ouch, I hope it's nothing serious | 09:00 |
| zyga | __chip__: in case you need a spare machine, I have some still boxed, just come to warsaw and collect it | 09:00 |
| zyga | __chip__: PC speaker helps | 09:00 |
| zyga | but if it doesn't post and you didn't pour coffee on it, it's the RAM | 09:00 |
| zyga | hey ogra_ for a moment I was wondering if you were referring to setting up a company or having a machine not post | 09:01 |
| zyga | must be morning | 09:01 |
| zyga | mvo: how's everything? | 09:01 |
| ogra_ | lol | 09:01 |
| mvo | zyga: good morning, looking at the tsync issue on trusty currently, mostly understood I think | 09:02 |
| mvo | zyga: there is the open question what to do about it, I will write a forum post about it I think, we have some options, not exactly sure which is the best one just now | 09:03 |
| __chip__ | zyga: numlock and scroll lock on, caps lock blinking, led machine --> RAM issue | 09:05 |
| __chip__ | zyga: https://www.parts-people.com/blog/2014/07/02/dell-latitude-e6400-led-post-codes-diagnostic-indicators/ | 09:06 |
| __chip__ | s/led machine/dell machine/ :-) | 09:06 |
| zyga | __chip__: did anything happen to your machine or power grid since it last worked? | 09:08 |
| ogra_ | your obsolescence-counter is full :) | 09:08 |
| zyga | mvo: this is about the "re-execed" version of the tool being unsuitable for older systems? | 09:08 |
| mvo | zyga: correct, its a combination of issues. | 09:09 |
| mvo | zyga: the best option is probably to statically link snap-seccomp on the core snap - the downside is that the debian/rules modification is ugly | 09:10 |
| zyga | mvo: is that a per "go build" option? | 09:10 |
| zyga | mvo: one idea we might try is to run ld-so on snap-seccomp | 09:11 |
| zyga | mvo: not sure if you think this is sensible | 09:11 |
| mvo | zyga: I tried that and things segfaulted | 09:12 |
| zyga | oh, that's interesting (and unfortunate) | 09:13 |
| zyga | how did you run it? | 09:13 |
| mvo | zyga: I did not investigate the segfault further tough | 09:13 |
| zyga | (I was hoping to use this approach for other things0 | 09:13 |
| mvo | zyga: I can look again | 09:13 |
| zyga | not urgent, just curious | 09:13 |
| mvo | zyga: I don't get anything useful from gdb, i use the same commandline as CommandFromCore() is using | 09:22 |
| zyga | I see | 09:22 |
| mvo | zyga: funny enough, even LD_LIBARARY_PATH=... ldd ./usr/lib/snapd/snap-seccomp core dumps | 09:23 |
| mvo | zyga: ok, anything does, hm, hn | 09:25 |
| Chipaca | huzzah! | 09:26 |
| mvo | zyga: aha, getting closer, broken symlinks | 09:27 |
| zyga | lip 10 11:28:47 fyke kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1499678927.313:439): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/snap/core/2329/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine" pid=19314 comm="snap-confine" capability=4 capname="fsetid" | 09:29 |
| zyga | mvo: curious if this is not one of our chown's | 09:31 |
| mvo | zyga: could be, where do you see this? | 09:34 |
| pstolowski | Chipaca, #3569 updated | 09:45 |
| Chipaca | pstolowski: looking | 09:46 |
| Chipaca | hmm, something is still not happy with this box | 09:48 |
| Chipaca | psftw: thank you! | 09:54 |
| Chipaca | uh | 09:54 |
| Chipaca | pstolowski: ^ | 09:54 |
| pstolowski | Chipaca, ty! | 09:54 |
| mvo | zyga: CommandInCore now also works, things look good, need to clean that up a bit more though | 09:55 |
| mvo | zyga: but at least things move forward | 09:55 |
| zyga | mvo: just running hello-world.evil | 09:56 |
| zyga | mvo: I installed aa-notify | 09:56 |
| Chipaca | wellp, and now a kernel BUG thing | 09:57 |
| Chipaca | sounds like i need to re-reseat the memory and run memtest for a while | 09:58 |
| * Chipaca declares victory over the ram monster, in order to tempt it early | 10:17 | |
| mup | PR snapd#3576 opened: tests: snap debug confinement does not exists yet in 2.26.x <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3576> | 10:59 |
| mvo | zyga: I created the forum topic now about the snap-seccomp, I wonder what the best way forward is, it could be either static linking or using osutil.CommandFromCore() - I lean towards the later | 11:04 |
| zyga | mvo: let me read and comment | 11:11 |
| * zyga experiments with apparmor tracing on 2nd computer | 11:11 | |
| * Son_Goku grumbles about fontconfig | 11:13 | |
| Son_Goku | libfontconfig isn't thread-safe, woo :( | 11:14 |
| Chipaca | Son_Goku: party yeah party woo </vihart> | 11:18 |
| Son_Goku | this happened, which is why I'm grumbling about libfontconfig: https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/issues/177 | 11:18 |
| Chipaca | Son_Goku: (that's a reference to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4niz8TfY794&feature=youtu.be&t=212 fwiw -- sorry if it was obscure :-) ) | 11:19 |
| Chipaca | anyway, machine seems moderately happy, i'm off for a run and lunch will bbl | 11:20 |
| niemeyer | Good mornings | 11:31 |
| Son_Goku | niemeyer: morning | 11:37 |
| mvo | jdstrand: hey jdstrand, good morning! I looked into the tsync issue with snap-seccomp on trusty this morning and wrote whats going on in https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/2-26-8-libseccomp-on-trusty/ - let me know what solution you prefer | 12:38 |
| jdstrand | mvo: good morning, lookingn | 12:48 |
| jdstrand | looking* | 12:48 |
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| zyga | jdstrand: hey, after you are done with that, can you please have a look at https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/apparmor-profile-caching/1268 and https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/using-snap-update-ns-from-snap-confine-to-initialize-mount-namespaces/1266/1 please | 12:54 |
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| jdstrand | mvo: done | 13:02 |
| niemeyer | Sorry, running late for the standup.. will be there in a second | 13:02 |
| jdstrand | zyga: looking | 13:06 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#1400 opened: lxd: Distingish FileNotFoundError if not installed <bug> <Created by kalikiana> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1400> | 13:10 |
| zyga | jdstrand: thank you :) | 13:13 |
| cachio | mvo, zyga, about the snap-seccomp error? any idea why the lib is not there? is it related to the other issue? | 13:37 |
| mvo | cachio: could you please pastebin the exact error again? I suspect it is just a spec file update, i.e. I think the binary is not copied into the right place for some reason. is this happening with master? | 13:40 |
| cachio | mvo, it is happening with the fedora branch | 13:41 |
| cachio | mvo, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25061349/ | 13:42 |
| cachio | I'll rebase again to discard any other problem | 13:43 |
| mvo | cachio: could you please also show e the link for the fedora branch? | 13:43 |
| cachio | mvo, https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3505 | 13:43 |
| mup | PR snapd#3505: PLEASE IGNORE: Enable more tests for suse and fedora <Created by morphis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3505> | 13:43 |
| zyga | cachio, mvo: I'll resolve 3505 | 13:44 |
| mvo | zyga: ta | 13:44 |
| Chipaca | mvo: was your "thank you" on sil's snapd#3574 a +1? | 13:51 |
| mup | PR snapd#3574: snap find only searches stable <Created by stuartlangridge> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3574> | 13:51 |
| mup | PR snapd#3531 closed: interfaces: updates default, mir, optical-observe, system-observe, screen-inhibit-control and unity7 <Created by jdstrand> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3531> | 14:10 |
| mup | PR snapd#3574 closed: cmd/snap: snap find only searches stable <Created by stuartlangridge> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3574> | 14:11 |
| pstolowski | cjwatson, hey! do you want to make the simple change to #3501 suggested by Samuele, so we can land it? | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | sure, give me a minute to run tests and such | 14:17 |
| Chipaca | woo, mwhudson got the golang fix backported and sitting in xenial-proposed :-D | 14:24 |
| cjwatson | pstolowski: done | 14:27 |
| mup | PR snapd#3409 closed: tests: fix snap confine from core test to check the restart was done <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Closed by chipaca> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3409> | 14:29 |
| pstolowski | cjwatson, thanks | 14:29 |
| Chipaca | snapd#3478 is a nice easy review, if anybody's looking for something to do | 15:01 |
| mup | PR snapd#3478: tests: extend upower-observe test to cover snaps providing slots <Created by fgimenez> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3478> | 15:01 |
| Chipaca | (it's already got one +1) | 15:02 |
| ppisati | ogra_: i'm using this ubuntu core pi3 img: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/16/ubuntu-core-16-pi3.img.xz | 15:08 |
| ppisati | ogra_: but i can't get any overlay to load, how is that? | 15:08 |
| Chipaca | snapd#3481 is a slightly more involved PR, but still straightforward, needing a second review | 15:08 |
| mup | PR snapd#3481: tests: add avahi-observe interface test <Created by fgimenez> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3481> | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, you need to unpack the overlays.tgz | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | iirc in stable we still had that only as tarball | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, this got fixed shortly after the first stable release, but since we cant update gadget content yet tsble still has the initial setup with the tgz | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | s/tsble/stable/ | 15:11 |
| ppisati | ogra_: i unpacked that in /boot/uboot where the rest of the boot fw resides, modified config.txt accordinlgy but nothing is loaded | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | it needs to be in an "overlays" subdir | 15:12 |
| ppisati | ogra_: if i build a beta image, would it work? or is there a pre-baked image that i can use? | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | the blob has the path hardcoded | 15:12 |
| ppisati | ogra_: yes, it's in /boot/uboot/overlays/* | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/snappy/all-snaps/daily/current/ | 15:12 |
| * ppisati tries the current | 15:12 | |
| ogra_ | that loads the vc4 overlay by default | 15:13 |
| ppisati | ogra_: ok | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | so i'm 100% prositive that overlays work | 15:13 |
| ppisati | ogra_: ooook | 15:13 |
| mup | PR snapd#3501 closed: store: orders API now checks if customer is ready <Created by cjwatson> <Merged by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3501> | 15:35 |
| mup | PR snapd#3481 closed: tests: add avahi-observe interface test <Created by fgimenez> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3481> | 15:40 |
| mup | PR snapd#3399 closed: many: add the interface command <Decaying> <Created by zyga> <Closed by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3399> | 15:41 |
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| mup | PR snapd#3495 closed: tests: remove snapd before building from branch <Created by fgimenez> <Merged by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3495> | 16:12 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#1401 opened: Correct capitalisation for PyPI <Created by evandandrea> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1401> | 16:20 |
| pachulo | hey! how do you delete a snap from the store? | 16:51 |
| mvo | niemeyer: I updated https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/2-26-8-libseccomp-on-trusty/1265 - if you have a moment, it would be great if you could have a look and comment. no rush, I have dinner now and call it a day soon | 16:55 |
| niemeyer | mvo: Will definitely do, thanks for that | 16:55 |
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| cachio | zyga, any idea why it could be failing? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25062665/ | 18:04 |
| cachio | zyga, it is happening on fedora | 18:04 |
| sergiusens | tyhicks: jdstrand hi there, mind directing me to the snappy security whitepaper? | 18:48 |
| tyhicks | hey sergiusens | 18:50 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: I'm getting a 404 for the whitepaper (https://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/guides/security-whitepaper) is this an updated copy? http://people.canonical.com/~davidcalle/core/Whitepaper:%20Ubuntu%20Core%2016%20-%20Security.pdf | 18:51 |
| * sergiusens waits for confirmation | 18:52 | |
| cachio | Son_Goku, hey | 18:58 |
| Son_Goku | cachio: hi? | 18:58 |
| zyga | z | 18:58 |
| zyga | cachio: looking | 18:58 |
| cachio | Son_Goku, I am now working on morphis stuff to make snapd tests work on fedora | 18:59 |
| Son_Goku | cachio: who are you? | 18:59 |
| cachio | Son_Goku, I am sergio, we meet on london | 18:59 |
| zyga | cachio: no idea | 18:59 |
| Son_Goku | ah | 18:59 |
| * zyga returns to fighting his network issues :/ | 18:59 | |
| cachio | zyga, any idea bout the issue with snap-seccomp ? | 19:00 |
| cachio | did you take a look? | 19:00 |
| cachio | Son_Goku, I am trying to fix the tests for fedora and I see this issue trying to build the snapd binary | 19:03 |
| cachio | error: File not found: /usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/snapd-1337.2.26.4-2.x86_64/usr/lib/snapd/snap-seccomp | 19:03 |
| cachio | Son_Goku, did you see that before? | 19:03 |
| cachio | morphis told you something about that one? | 19:03 |
| morphis | cachio: I guess the snapd rpm packaging isn't yet updating to include that binary | 19:04 |
| cachio | morphis, you mean the spec to build it is missing? | 19:06 |
| morphis | I guess so | 19:06 |
| morphis | snap-seccomp seems to be a really recent addition | 19:06 |
| cachio | morphis, ok, I'll try to add that | 19:07 |
| cachio | morphis, thanks | 19:07 |
| morphis | great | 19:07 |
| morphis | np | 19:07 |
| jdstrand | davidcalle: hey, it appears https://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/guides/security-whitepaper is 404 | 19:16 |
| jdstrand | davidcalle: also, http://people.canonical.com/~davidcalle/core/Whitepaper:%20Ubuntu%20Core%2016%20-%20Security.pdf is out of date, should be rc9 | 19:16 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks, sergiusens: fyi ^ | 19:17 |
| sergiusens | jdstrand: thanks, do you have it on your p.c.c ? | 19:18 |
| jdstrand | sergiusens: I do not, davidcalle manages it, but I gave you the link to the source doc in privmsg | 19:18 |
| jdstrand | you could export to pdf from there | 19:19 |
| DeeJayh | Is there a way to use the ubuntu core without snaps? I used to use the core on minimalist builds to have only what I need/want kind of like a archlinux/gentoo style build if you will | 19:27 |
| jdstrand | DeeJayh: others may say point you at something different, but Ubuntu Core must use snaps and isn't a building block for an apt-based system. you probably want to consider the netboot images: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ | 19:30 |
| jdstrand | DeeJayh: actually, I think http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-base/ is better for that | 19:31 |
| jdstrand | DeeJayh: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Base | 19:31 |
| DeeJayh | you're a god | 19:32 |
| DeeJayh | *bows* | 19:32 |
| DeeJayh | Thanks jdstrand I had no idea this existed | 19:32 |
| jdstrand | it has gone through a few different names over the years | 19:32 |
| DeeJayh | I was aware of netboot but it didn't fit my needs, that base build is exactly what I've been dreaming of lol | 19:33 |
| DeeJayh | I used to compile core before it became snappy | 19:33 |
| jdstrand | cool, glad it fits your needs :) | 19:33 |
| jdstrand | right | 19:33 |
| jdstrand | that was one of the names. since ubuntu-core as a minimal os and Ubuntu Core were confusing, they renamed ubuntu-core ubuntu-base | 19:33 |
| DeeJayh | sounds like a good call on their part lol | 19:37 |
| DeeJayh | the only other question I have, because I am unfamiliar with the architectures, for ARM devices, is the arm64 64bit and armhf the 32bit? | 19:38 |
| DeeJayh | nvm quick google search alleviated my curiousity lol thank you again | 19:44 |
| davidcalle | jdstrand: pdf should be up to date now, PR for redirects waiting to be merged and deployed, sorry for the delay | 20:01 |
| davidcalle | Will update the source comments once it's done | 20:01 |
| jdstrand | davidcalle: ok, thanks! (tyhicks, fyi ^) | 20:34 |
| tyhicks | thanks | 20:35 |
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| mwhudson | Chipaca: you ok to do the verification on that? | 21:26 |
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