[00:05] <cipher6> Can we get help in here?
[00:06] <bazhang> ask a question cipher6
[00:06] <cipher6> Awesome, Lubuntu 16.04, systemd-analyze plot > foobar.svg gives me very large svg with a huge number of process with bright red bars,
[00:06] <cipher6> and I feel like my system is taking a long time to boot,
[00:07] <bazhang> how long
[00:07] <cipher6> 3min 9.14s on a Lenovo T420 with an i5 and 4gb of ram
[00:07] <IIIdefconIII> ssd?
[00:08] <cipher6> Ubuntu on my busted a$$ HP boots faster and it's running unity
[00:08] <bazhang> cipher6, and what is the typical fast time you had before
[00:08] <cipher6> don't believe so, is there a way to see if it's platter/ssd w/ cracking open the case?
[00:08] <cipher6> bazhang, never had it faster, on lubuntu,
[00:08] <IIIdefconIII> there are tools yes not sure which
[00:09] <cipher6> just went from ubuntu on a cheap laptop to this nice lenovo and a thinner distro and didn't expect the delay
[00:09] <IIIdefconIII> wiht disk you can see the sidk type
[00:09] <IIIdefconIII> with disks you can see the disk model
[00:09] <IIIdefconIII> and google that to know if it has ssd
[00:09] <cipher6> disk and disks aren't found, did I mean diskd from fdutils?
[00:10] <IIIdefconIII> no just disks
[00:10] <IIIdefconIII> as an application not in terminal
[00:10] <cipher6> OH gotcha, let me look
[00:10] <bazhang> !info gnome-disk
[00:10] <cipher6> lol
[00:10] <cipher6> no but disks is in the system tools in the gui, one sec
[00:10] <IIIdefconIII> indeed
[00:10] <cipher6> WDC WD5000BUCT-57LS5Y1
[00:11] <cipher6> googling now
[00:11] <IIIdefconIII> that no ssd
[00:11] <IIIdefconIII> for sure
[00:11] <bazhang> gnome-disk-utility
[00:11] <bazhang> what about that
[00:11] <cipher6> 500gb Platter, :(
[00:11] <cipher6> but still, it's a 5400rpm drive, maybe i'm just being a bitch about it
[00:11] <IIIdefconIII> not sure what youre normal boot time was before..
[00:12] <IIIdefconIII> you ocan try defrag it... dont think it going to help alot 5400 is just slow
[00:12] <booh> Hi.  I want to convert a physical machine to kvm so I do ssh to a remote running machine and dd to have a raw image that I convert to qcow2.  It's ok with a machine that have a /dev/sda but... is it possible to dd /dev/md ??  I have md0, md1 and md2.  Or can I just dd the first drive?  (raid1 anyway)
[00:12] <IIIdefconIII> you have alot of apps installed?
[00:12] <IIIdefconIII> maybe try booting live from usb and compare speeds
[00:13] <IIIdefconIII> dont know anyting about that booh sry
[00:13] <cipher6> No, lubuntu is nearly new, through on hexchat, chrome, and uninstalled some of the stock packages
[00:13] <IIIdefconIII> try booting live from usb see if its the harddisk that is the bottleneck, i think so
[00:13] <cipher6> whoa booh, that's intense. I have no offer for that
[00:13] <cipher6> thanks IIIdefconIII
[00:14] <IIIdefconIII> glad to provide help
[00:14] <cipher6> IIIdefconIII, any idea why the plot has all these red bars? when the others are maroon, are the red ones, ones that ran longer than normal/necessary?
[00:15] <IIIdefconIII> not sure if i know what youre meaning what plot?
[00:15] <IIIdefconIII> where do you see red bars
[00:15] <cipher6> IIIdefconIII, do me a favor an run systemd-analyze plot > foobar.svg and it will give you a visual rep of the time it took your system on last boot
[00:16] <IIIdefconIII> it doesnt do much :p
[00:16] <cipher6> ? it didn't give you an svg file?
[00:16] <IIIdefconIII> yes
[00:16] <IIIdefconIII> how to open it :p
[00:16] <cipher6> double click it, if you have the gui, the image viewer will open it
[00:17] <IIIdefconIII> done that lots of red
[00:17] <cipher6> hm,, if you zoom way in on the top left, what's your boot time?
[00:17] <IIIdefconIII> up to 17 seconds
[00:17] <IIIdefconIII> top right you mean?
[00:17] <IIIdefconIII> left says 0.0 s
[00:17] <IIIdefconIII> right says 17
[00:18] <IIIdefconIII> kernal takes 5 secon userspace 17
[00:18] <[n0mad]> 1min 11.640s
[00:18] <cipher6> Highest top left corner says "Startup finished in *.***s (kernel) + *min*.***s(userspace)= *min*.***s
[00:18] <IIIdefconIII> cool feature never knew it excistance
[00:19] <cipher6> Mine is 6.8s kernel, 3min2s for userspace
[00:19] <cipher6> are you on SSD or platter?
[00:19] <IIIdefconIII> ssd mate
[00:19]  * cipher6 cries
[00:19] <IIIdefconIII> haha
[00:19] <cipher6> lol
[00:19] <cipher6> seriously though, 7 seconds?
[00:19] <cipher6> 17*
[00:19] <IIIdefconIII> yes
[00:19] <[n0mad]> i'm on platter, i7, 8GB ram
[00:20] <IIIdefconIII> this is quad core shitty old pc
[00:20] <IIIdefconIII> 4 gb ram
[00:20] <IIIdefconIII> but ssd
[00:20] <IIIdefconIII> using it for kodi ubuntu os + kodi and some home automation
[00:20] <IIIdefconIII> hdd was just too slow for me on kodi
[00:20] <cipher6> [n0mad], what do you get for $systemd-analyze plot > foobar.svg ?
[00:20] <IIIdefconIII> he just said
[00:21] <IIIdefconIII> 1 min 11
[00:21] <cipher6> I can't see that....
 1min 11.640s
[00:21] <cipher6> Oh, it was above my comment
[00:21] <cipher6> See it now
[00:21] <IIIdefconIII> ;)
[00:21] <cipher6> so i7 w/ 2 the ram, half the boot time,maybe i'm just being whiny
[00:22] <cipher6> I'll have to look around and see if I have any ssd's.
[00:22] <IIIdefconIII> i thkn ssd will provide you happyness
[00:22] <IIIdefconIII> sry no native english
[00:22] <IIIdefconIII> bot got to go tow ork in 6 hours need some rest now :)
[00:23] <cipher6> night IIIdefconIII, thanks for the recommendations
[00:24] <IIIdefconIII> ;) gn
[00:35] <Fudge> !ubuntu current release
[01:11] <lucas-arg> hello all, how do we check snap apps? like if i want to install something from snap store or whatever you call it
[01:13] <oerheks> snap find name , snap fine | grep <search>
[01:14] <oerheks> https://www.howtogeek.com/252047/how-to-install-and-manage-snap-packages-on-ubuntu-16.04-lts/
[01:22] <[n0mad]> snaps show in Disks, which is weird
[01:33] <RonWhoCares> I just put a brand new SD card into the card reader.  It needs formatting.  How do I do this?
[01:34] <leviii> hi. i'm trying to upgrade to OpenSSL 1.1.0 so I can use EVP_ functions in my C program. i'm running Ubuntu 16.04 and downloaded the openssl tarball(config, make, make install), but no matter what i do, I still see the same version (openssl version).
[01:34] <l1Ll1Ll1L> RonWhoCares you should be able to do it from gparted, that is probably easiest
[01:35] <RonWhoCares> It isn't listed in gparted
[01:36] <l1Ll1Ll1L> hmm that isn't ideal. Can you see it in lsblk -a ?
[01:37] <RonWhoCares> weird
[01:37] <RonWhoCares> The USB hub may have been low in power
[01:38] <RonWhoCares> Good
[01:38] <RonWhoCares> It shows
[01:38] <l1Ll1Ll1L> hurray
[01:39] <l1Ll1Ll1L> leviii this is an old thread but maybe helpful? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478303
[01:39] <leviii> thanks :) I haven't seen this one, but i'm going to try it.
[01:40] <l1Ll1Ll1L> np :)
[01:40] <RonWhoCares> Works
[01:40] <l1Ll1Ll1L> cool RonWhoCares, is it for a raspberry pi?
[01:41] <RonWhoCares> Pine64
[01:42] <l1Ll1Ll1L> ooh haven't had a chance to mess with one of those, looks neat though
[01:43] <RonWhoCares> if you get into an HDD make sure you use a powered hub
[01:43] <leviii> Pine64 looks really neat
[01:44] <RonWhoCares> I've got a lot of staked on this
[01:44] <leviii> RonWhoCares: what ya mean?
[01:46] <RonWhoCares> leviii: I'll tell you, but I don't want you to feel sorry for me
[01:46] <leviii> hehe, k
[01:46] <RonWhoCares> It is quite serious
[01:47] <RonWhoCares> I had a rare hip disease when I was 2 years old.  This was 1979.  The lack of medical knowledge at the time set me up for a life time of a physical disability, using a wheelchair for all but a few steps and chronic pain
[01:47] <RonWhoCares> A whole lot of collateral damage happened to my skeletal system that doesn't happen if you have the disease now.  Treatment now is so much more effective.
[01:48] <leviii> wow
[01:48] <RonWhoCares> I am receiving a long term disability.  The annual 1% increase isn't keeping up with the actual cost of inflation.
[01:48] <leviii> Should be 3%
[01:48] <RonWhoCares> I want to help myself.  That's all I've ever wanted to do.  I've now had 7 orthopedic surgeries.  I need 2 more within a few years.  Then I'll need another 4 in ~25 years from now
[01:49] <leviii> l1Ll1Ll1L: that thread worked. thanks!
[01:49] <l1Ll1Ll1L> sweet leviii, happy coding
[01:49] <leviii> RonWhoCares: i hope the best for you, but i mist go.
[01:49] <RonWhoCares> What the Pine64 means to me is the possibility of self employment.  It means a server where the Internet is able to be consistent where chronic pain affects me each day.
[01:49] <RonWhoCares> OK
[01:50] <l1Ll1Ll1L> RonWhoCares, how are you trying to turn Pine64 skills into self employment?
[01:52] <RonWhoCares> l1Ll1Ll1L: I am trying to use my youTube channel, build a web site to go with it, setup an online forum, a small online store, etc.
[01:52] <RonWhoCares> I host my own web site
[01:52] <l1Ll1Ll1L> ok, well, good luck
[01:52] <l1Ll1Ll1L> not sure Pine64 is particularly well suited to being your server if you get much traffic though I have to say
[01:53] <RonWhoCares> I have 4 of them
[01:53] <RonWhoCares> I am setting up a cluster
[01:53] <l1Ll1Ll1L> hmm interesting
[01:54] <RonWhoCares> I want to write and sell eBooks about chronic pain, living with a physical disability, and living with a wheelchair for mobility
[01:54] <RonWhoCares> There is also my blog
[01:54] <RonWhoCares> If I sell the eBooks myself it means I won't be giving a % of the cuts to an existing eStore
[01:54] <l1Ll1Ll1L> good thinking on that front
[01:55] <RonWhoCares> part of this also is about marketing.  If someone would subscribe to a monthly membership I would give them the ebooks free
[01:56] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to help myself.  I think this will come
[01:56] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to help myself
[02:02] <sjohnson> hi.  how does one "link back" what device "eth0" is?
[02:02] <sjohnson> i have an intel and marvel NIC and i'm having problems.  just want to make sure which one is which easily.
[02:02] <sjohnson> grepping "dmesg" output isn't that pleasant.
[02:05] <[n0mad]> can't you just grep eth0?
[02:06] <sjohnson> lspci shows the 2 network cards but i only see one configured in ifconfig.
[02:06] <sjohnson> and it's actually not eth0, sorry.  it's enp1s0.
[02:07] <sjohnson> had to write it down.
[02:07] <[n0mad]> which is probably eth0 if you dmesg | grep eth0
[02:07] <[n0mad]> on mine it is
[02:08] <sjohnson> i can't find the marvell card that shows up in lspci in dmesg.
[02:08] <sjohnson> which is another problem i'll have to face eventually.
[02:08] <sjohnson> any hints?
[02:12] <[n0mad]> sorry, probably best to see if anyone else chimes in that might be more familiar with dealing with hardware
[02:14] <Bashing-om> sjohnson: '  sudo lshw -C network ' show what you want ?
[02:20] <sjohnson> will give it a try, sec.
[02:21] <sjohnson> yes it did actually, thank you!
[02:21] <sjohnson> i've been desiring a command like that for years.
[02:32] <Bashing-om> sjohnson: Just wonderful then . Starting you a cli_cmds file now ?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:28] <espacito> good morning
[03:29] <espacito> i'll return later
[03:53] <someone_> Hi
[03:58] <someone_> I'm using Kubuntu 16.04 , and I want upgrade it to 17.04 but Is this good thing or I should keep working on 16.04 until 18.04 . and it 17.04 stable or it may has some bugs in KDE . and if I upgrade to 17.04 Is there any possiblity to I lose my files in Desktop & Home .
[03:59] <someone_> ?
[04:01] <someone_> ??
[04:05] <PipeItToDevNull> IRC is a slow process
[04:05] <PipeItToDevNull> Please be patient
[04:06] <PipeItToDevNull> You can wait or upgrade, your experience will likely be the same. If you perfrom the upgrade correctly your files should be just fine. But, you of course keep backups so it is not a real risk.
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> someone_: non-lts is less stable then LTS why do you want to upgrade exactly?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> someone_: upgrades preserves your /home data, but always make backups in any cases for your own data safety
[04:16] <someone_> Thanks
[05:08] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[05:08] <CountryfiedLinux> Would it be a good idea to install Ubuntu on my laptop with a Radeon R6 M345DX?
[06:02] <markwalt> hello
[06:11] <kirandeo87> Hello, I need help on connecting to bluetooth speakers from my dell laptop with ubuntu 16.4 LTS . I am unable to search any bluetooth devices
[06:26] <vbotka> As of the bluetooth. bluetoothctl can help. https://askubuntu.com/questions/701978/how-can-a-bluetooth-keyboard-that-requires-a-code-entry-be-paired-in-the-termina
[06:35] <slamzy> join ##java
[06:38]  * markwalt hands slamzy a slash
[06:40] <dw1> how can i get my last gpu to use the same driver and show up in nvidia-settings with the other 5? :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/25059520/
[06:40] <dw1> it's in xorg.conf the same as the others
[06:40] <dw1> and i know about /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d being a better place :]
[06:41] <dw1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25059528/
[06:41] <EriC^^> dw1: which mb?
[06:41] <dw1> GA-Z170X-UD3
[06:42] <EriC^^> dw1: did you enable above 4g?
[06:43] <dw1> not sure it's an option per https://hardforum.com/threads/gigabyte-z170x-gaming5-missing-above-4g-decoding-option.1930413/
[06:43] <EriC^^> dw1: maybe you need to update the bios
[06:52] <Auctus> so i installed 17.04 on my laptop, an HP 6910p core2duo with 4gb of RAM, where I previously had 16.04. I guess defaulting to RAM*0.5 swap doesn't work very well for <=4GB in terms of it being slow often
[06:52] <Auctus> also, this is kind of hilarious as a "security" issue, but when you wake such a laptop from sleep, it shows you whatever is on the screen for like a solid 30 seconds before it ever shows you the lock screen
[06:53] <Auctus> it being non-interactive before you get to the lock screen
[07:04] <dw1> EriC^^, derp, it worked :)
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !swap | Auctus
[07:05] <Auctus> yeah, my point was, it worked a lot better with 1:1 swap to ram, rather than 1:2, and I assume this is also the cause of the lock screen thing
[07:05] <EriC^^> dw1: updating the bios?
[07:06] <Auctus> maybe this is a non-issue on desktops with 8GB+
[07:06] <Auctus> 4GB is probably still the most commonly sold laptop today
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> Auctus: for the lock/hibernate you might try a !bug
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Auctus for smoother overall speed
[07:25] <scriptso>  What files or folders would you consider important when it comes to back up? I find myself in a situation where, reasons that are not part of the question, that I have to manually reinstall Ubuntu...
[07:25] <scriptso> Of course I mean system files not personal files   and I'm very aware of applications like timeshift and aptic...  Part of that situations is that I can't I just can't use it.
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !backup | scriptso
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> scriptso: depending on what you are doing, you could scan your while drive with photorec to recover data also
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> scriptso: the more details you give us about your purpose, the better this channel will be able to help
[07:29] <scriptso> hey thats yeah! Hey thanks!  Again,  I'm quite aware of different backup applications ... I've used the pusit in the past as well..  I'm talking about.   Well put it this way I can't download any applications because my network card is fried,  and if I just download it and they transfer to the PC it's almost impossible because and hardly any space and the partition table is just a wreck
[07:31] <scriptso> Im literally about to wipe and install...
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> scriptso: keep in mind, without internet it will be hard to update system
[07:32] <scriptso> jup
[07:32] <scriptso> Sorry Im installing to new pc
[07:33] <scriptso> My question simply as what are the important files you would back up if you had no other source or resource than to physically grab these files
[07:33] <scriptso> .sys files of course
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> scriptso: not sure you what you trying to do exactly yet
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> scriptso: you wanna clone system to another pc?
[07:38] <scriptso>  Guys LOL....  Question forget about what and who okay lol..
[07:38] <scriptso>   Let's say you have 30 seconds before your computer explodes, and by mentioning files or folders they would magically appear on some random medium that you would be given after the explosion.... Not your personal files are already backed up somewhere else.... You have 30 seconds... go
[07:38] <scriptso> BOOOOOOm
[07:38] <scriptso> lmao
[07:39] <scriptso> Never mind guys... I appreciate tryng to help... its just more of theory question I guess
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> scriptso: whats important for you, is the real question beside your /home data?
[07:40] <scriptso> im talking sys ffiles
[07:40] <scriptso> not personal
[07:40] <scriptso> .ssh\
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> scriptso: you said that already, but wich sysfiles and for what?
[07:41] <scriptso> etc/ apt/
[07:41] <scriptso> sources?
[07:42] <scriptso> lol I appreciate ya lotus ....
[07:42] <scriptso> im goof
[08:04] <afidegnum> hola, in which cases do we use kerberos vs password authentication?
[08:49] <swensson> When Im using ufw I can't do apt update (stuck at 0%)... What do I need to allow?
[08:54] <l1Ll1Ll1L> you should probably share the rules your firewall is using
[08:54] <l1Ll1Ll1L> ^swensson
[08:55] <Falc> Can someone help troubleshoot an NFS mounting issue? I can mount the share perfectly fine on a Debian Squeeze and on my Ubuntu 17.04 laptop, but not on the Ubuntu 16.04 server I need it on (Operation not permitted)
[08:56] <l1Ll1Ll1L> do you have a firewall on your server?
[08:56] <l1Ll1Ll1L> operation not permitted is the message I always see when I try to ping and a firewall keeps me from doing so =P
[08:57] <Falc> nope, server is a Synology NAS (also, why would the firewall block one client and not 2 others?)
[08:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> I meant a firewall on the ubuntu server
[08:58] <Falc> ah yes... how would I check? I'm very inexperienced with firewalls...
[08:58] <Aginor> Falc: do you have nfs mount permissions on the server? - NFS can do access control on the server side, saying that addresses from a particular address can connect
[08:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> do iptables -S
[08:58] <l1Ll1Ll1L> well sudo iptables -S
[08:59] <Falc> -P INPUT ACCEPT
[08:59] <Falc> -P FORWARD ACCEPT
[08:59] <Falc> -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[08:59] <l1Ll1Ll1L> no firewall
[08:59] <swensson> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT solved it =)
[08:59] <l1Ll1Ll1L> :)
[09:01] <Aginor> Falc: NFS also does UID checking, you could fall afoul of that
[09:02] <Falc> Aginor: how would I test that? And why does it work on my laptop, when my laptop shares 0 users with the server?
[09:05] <rymate1234> is ubuntu touch dead?
[09:07] <Aginor> Falc: check the system logs on the server and the client
[09:07] <Aginor> Falc: compare the commands/configuration used to mount the directory
[09:08] <Aginor> Falc: check the access restrictions on the NFS server
[09:08] <l1Ll1Ll1L> Falc: this is an old thread, but it may help http://www.unix.com/unix-for-advanced-and-expert-users/118634-mounting-directory-using-nfs-version4.html
[09:08] <sirru5h> Hey everyone
[09:09] <sirru5h> YankDownUnder, u there
[09:09]  * YankDownUnder checks
[09:09] <`arun`> anyone from India?
[09:09] <sirru5h> oh there ya are I got a crazy question kinda looking at something and wonder if this is possible
[09:10] <sirru5h> can I do a symlink from a file to a kernel module
[09:10] <karolyi> hey, is anyone having problems with installing redis-server on 17.04 and getting "Too many levels of symbolic links" systemd errors?
[09:10] <karolyi> after having googled around, it seems it's a bug in systemd but it should have already been fixed
[09:11] <sirru5h> because YankDownUnder that is what it seems to be doing ...
[09:13] <Falc> Aginor: synology doesn't seem to have logs, client logs would be where? Also, commands are exactly the same and acces restrictions are OK
[09:14] <Aginor> Falc: /var/log/systemlog
[09:14] <Aginor> Falc: what's the *exact* error message?
[09:15] <Falc> mount.nfs4 -v 10.0.0.103:/ /tmp/nfs
[09:15] <Falc> mount.nfs4: timeout set for Mon Jul 10 11:01:44 2017
[09:15] <Falc> mount.nfs4: trying text-based options 'addr=10.0.0.103,clientaddr=10.0.100.199'
[09:15] <Falc> mount.nfs4: mount(2): Operation not permitted
[09:15] <Falc> mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted
[09:15] <Aginor> Falc: and the command you tried to run, was it as a user or with sudo?
[09:15] <YankDownUnder> sirru5h, Um...I'm lost - wassup?
[09:17] <Falc> Aginor: tried it both as root and with sudo
[09:17] <sirru5h> yank you ever heard of a module being linked like a shortcut to a file
[09:17] <YankDownUnder> sirru5h, yes
[09:17] <Aginor> Falc: can you run "showmount -e <ip addr>" it'll list the shares on the server, and from where they can be accessed
[09:18] <sirru5h> ahhh you know how that command would go?
[09:18] <Falc> Aginor: Export list for srv-fhq-storage: /volume1/backup 10.0.0.0/16
[09:18] <Aginor> Falc: https://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?t=105082
[09:19] <sirru5h> YankDownUnder,  I'm pretty much working with a user manual and trying to figure out how this thing works
[09:19] <YankDownUnder> sirru5h, You'd use "ln" to accomplish this task...but be ABSOLUTELY sure of things...mucking about with symbolic links can get, er, a bit puzzling at times...especially if you're not taking notes (somewhere)
[09:21] <sirru5h> YankDownUnder, Yeah I know ln does get interesting, and I am taking notes, it's for work so everything is being documented.
[09:23] <YankDownUnder> sirru5h, Make copies of the notes! Just in case (mistakes can be made)
[09:23] <sirru5h> So let me ask this YankDownUnder say we are talking ip tables here the module has a hardcoded table name you could do a symlink say from /proc/net/ip_tables_names to the module
[09:24] <sirru5h> and pretty much the table should be hidden
[09:24] <sirru5h> providing we flush whatever the current tables are it will go by whats in the module
[09:25] <Falc> Aginor: saaaay... is it possible that this could be caused by the fact the Ubuntu server is an LXD container?
[09:25] <Aginor> Falc: possibly :)
[09:26] <belak> I feel like I'm running into the opposite issue of most people... I'm having an issue where my shell inside gnome-terminal remembers which dir I'm in when I open a new tab - I don't want that... I'd like it to always start in the home dir. Is there any way to do this
[09:26] <belak> ?
[09:27] <afidegnum> anyone tried installing google keep on ubuntu?
[09:27] <YankDownUnder> sirru5h, NOW I'm lost (could be cuz I'm tired and don't understand the back story here)
[09:32] <sirru5h> umm I'm tired as well YankDownUnder
[09:36] <sirru5h> YankDownUnder, if i created a kernel module it's job basically is just to keep an iptables table and rules and flush the existing tables and rules, then did a symbolic link to the module which has the rules I created would that work? (Like theoretically at this point although testing will come later)
[09:46] <sirru5h> well either way YankDownUnder I'm just too tired Thank you though next time I am on I will show you what I was working on
[09:46] <sirru5h> night everyone
[10:23] <arun007> Hi
[10:24] <mgaunard> hi, I just upgraded to ubuntu 17.04 and it messed up my multiple monitor setup
[10:24] <mgaunard> It also seems xorg.conf has disappeared, is this not running X11 anymore?
[10:28] <Ben64> xorg hasn't been needed for a while
[10:28] <Ben64> xorg.conf *
[10:37] <mgaunard> I've tried to play with xinerama or gnome-panel settings, to no avail
[10:37] <Ben64> what video card
[10:39] <mgaunard> nvidia
[10:39] <mgaunard> a recent one, gtx 1070, using proprietary drivers, one X screen per screen
[10:39] <mgaunard> sorry no, not a gtx 1070, I'm confusing that with another computer
[10:40] <mgaunard> a quadro nvs 450, not nearly as new
[10:42] <mgaunard> google suggests that there is an add-on to make gnome-panel span multiple screens, but I have no add-on and that's definitely not what I want
[10:42] <Ben64> make sure you have the right driver and use nvidia-settings to set it up
[10:53] <arun007> Hi
[11:07] <mgaunard> the problem is with gnome-panel, xfce4-panel works fine and doesn't span the multiple monitors
[11:10] <Sourcey> Hello. I have a mix of old and new PHP versions on my system. 7.1 running as active, but its starting to cause some problems. Will a full uninstall of everything called PHP affect my apache config?
[11:35] <ps3> how would i sucessfully detect the host architecture on any distro even if the distro does not have uname or lscpu or lsb_release or perl or python
[11:36] <ioria> ps3, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:37] <ps3> but that does not mention the architecture
[11:37] <ioria> ps3, cpu is the arch
[11:37] <ps3> still
[11:38] <ps3> there is no mention of my architecture in cpuinfo
[11:38] <ps3> nor anything related to architecture
[11:39] <Tabmow> Can I follow http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx to install the AMDGPU driver for 17.04?
[11:39] <ioria> ps3, clflush size
[11:39] <Tabmow> Nothing gets listed in additional drivers for me
[11:41] <ioria> Tabmow, what's your card ?
[11:41] <Tabmow> ioria, VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition] [1002:6818] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[11:41] <ioria> oh
[11:42] <ioria> Tabmow, and opensource not working ?
[11:43] <Tabmow> My current driver works - I want to install Steam to play CS:GO so was just wondering what the best options are driver wise. I'll try as-is and see how I go?
[11:44] <ioria> Tabmow, don't use stream, but radeon should work ...
[11:44] <Tabmow> ioria, radeon being the Ubuntu out of the box driver?
[11:45] <ioria> Tabmow, yep... or amdgpu  - lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[11:46] <Tabmow> ioria, currently using radeon. I'll try this with Steam first and see how I go. Thanks :)
[11:46] <ioria> Tabmow, good luck
[11:47] <Tabmow> ioria, grazie!
[11:47] <ioria> Tabmow, hehehe
[11:48] <kacper_> hello! I tried to upgrade ubuntu by changing the sources.list to newer one and do apt-get upgrade. I didn't upgrade the kernel first(it's 2.6). I've got an error that this version of the libc requres kernel 3.2 or later.. I tried to stop the dpkg-reconfigure and install the newer kernel, but it stopped on the same step. Is there any chance to postpone the reconfigure somehow?
[11:54] <ioria> kacper_, i guess your previous release was too old ...   lucid ?  and to what version now ?
[11:55] <kacper_> trusty => xenial
[11:56] <kacper_> ioria: ^
[11:56] <ioria> kacper_, idt so
[11:56] <kacper_> I checked it in my sources.list..
[11:57] <ioria> kacper_, trusty is 3.13 not 2.6
[11:57] <kacper_> I guess i didn't update the kernel then
[11:58] <ioria> kacper_,  cat /etc/issue
[11:58] <kacper_> now it's updated 16.04 2 LTS
[11:58] <kacper_> but it's not reconfigured yet
[11:58] <kacper_> it freezes on the checking init script
[11:59] <ioria> kacper_,  and uname -r   what it says ?
[11:59] <kacper_> uname -r
[11:59] <kacper_> 2.6.32-042stab120.20
[11:59] <ioria> kacper_, so it's not trusty
[12:00] <kacper_> It was trusty
[12:00] <kacper_> I changed the sources.list to new one and do apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <ioria> kacper_, really ? how ?
[12:00] <kacper_> just bymyself.. I edited the sources.list
[12:00] <compdoc> that sounds bad
[12:01] <ioria> kacper_, you 'could'  do that, but really not recommended
[12:01] <kacper_> ok. Can I change the sources.list to the previous form and do the update then? Is it possible to skip dpkg reconfigure ?
[12:01] <ioria> no
[12:01] <kacper_> ok, I didn't know that. That's how I was updating debian in the past
[12:02] <kacper_> ok.. so is there any other way to fix it other than reinstall?
[12:02] <ioria> kacper_,  ok, 2.6 i think it's lucid, not trusty and second that kernel it's not even stock
[12:03] <Ancer> uname -a
[12:03] <kacper_> Linux xxxxx 2.6.32-042stab120.20 #1 SMP Fri Mar 10 16:52:50 MSK 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:04] <ioria> kacper_,  idt it's an ubuntu kernel at all
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:04] <arun007> Fine
[12:05] <ioria> kacper_,  but in any case, too old
[12:05] <kacper_> ok.. I will try to reinstall it
[12:06]  * arun007 Hello
[12:46] <Kingsy> I am trying this out from a terminal -->notify-send 'Hello world!' 'This is an example notification.' --icon=dialog-information <-- and its not giving me anything. I installed inotify-bin what else do I need?
[12:50] <ioria> Kingsy, libnotify4 is installed ?
[12:50] <Kingsy> ioria: yes
[12:50] <ioria> Kingsy,  notify-send 'Hello world!' works ?
[12:51] <Kingsy> ioria: no
[12:51] <Kingsy> unfortunately
[12:51] <Kingsy> I am using openbox however. Is there some gnome packages I might be missing?
[12:51] <ioria> Kingsy,  ps -A | grep osd
[12:52] <ioria> Kingsy,  idt it works on openbox
[12:52] <Kingsy> ioria: that returns nothing
[12:52] <ioria> Kingsy,  you can use xnotify
[12:52] <Kingsy> ioria: it 100% works on openbox I had it working on my last installation. I am just not sure what I am missing
[12:53] <ioria> Kingsy,  notify-send on openbox ?
[12:53] <Kingsy> desktop notifactions yes
[12:53] <Kingsy> +
[12:53] <Kingsy> oops
[12:54] <glitsj16> Kingsy: perhaps you haven't installed/started notify-osd? notify-send needs a running notify daemon
[12:55] <ioria> Kingsy,  dpkg -l | grep notify
[12:56] <Kingsy> https://hastebin.com/gakapujeye.pas
[12:57] <Kingsy> it may be possible I need to start the daemon.. just not sure what its called.
[12:57] <Kingsy> or I could reboot
[12:57] <ioria> notify-osd
[12:57] <sruli> "inotifywait -e create --exclude 'AABB*'" how do i exclude file names that only start with [pattern] but not if pattern is any where else in the name
[12:58] <Kingsy> ioria: I dont see a systemd service with that name
[12:59] <ioria> Kingsy,  maybe in your case is xfce4-notifyd
[13:00] <Kingsy> ioria: sudo systemctl list-units | grep xfce4-notifyd <-- returns nothing unfortunately
[13:01] <ioria> Kingsy,  you have it installed ...
[13:03] <Kingsy> ioria: yeah I don't understand, ps aux | grep notify returns nothing after a reboot too
[13:04] <ioria> Kingsy,  do you have a unity / gnome session on that system ?
[13:04] <glitsj16> sruli: have you tried '^AABB*' yet?
[13:04] <sruli> glitsj16: yes i have
[13:05] <Kingsy> ioria: not that I know of. I went straight into openbox with startx
[13:06] <glitsj16> sruli: that ends my knowledge of regexp's .. always thought ^ translated into 'match at the very beginning of string'..
[13:07] <sruli> glitsj16: i thought the same, in sed it works
[13:08] <ZSky> I have a .img file
[13:08] <ZSky> How to mount the second partition inside it into a local dir
[13:08] <ZSky> make some modifications in it
[13:08] <ZSky> and then close the parition
[13:08] <ZSky> and have the .img file modified?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> !iso | ZSky
[13:11] <glitsj16> Kingsy: have you tried starting the daemon yet to test? run 'notify-osd &' and try your notify-send again.. should work.. and if it does, you'll need to tell openbox to start it at login (never used openbox so that part you'll need to figure out')
[13:13] <glitsj16> sruli: yeah, other than using --excludei for case-insensitive pattern matching i don't see much else, sorry
[13:13] <sruli> glitsj16: thanks for trying
[13:15] <glitsj16> sruli: oh no problem, i guess the real regexp wizards might be in #bash
[13:18] <ZSky> lotuspsychje: how to mount only 2nd partition?
[13:19] <ZSky> I tried:
[13:19] <ZSky> mount -o loop myimage.img test
[13:19] <ZSky> Failed to mount '/dev/loop1': Invalid argument
[13:19] <ZSky> The device '/dev/loop1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[13:19] <ZSky> I need to mount only 2nd partition of it
[13:28] <Kingsy> glitsj16: it says command not found for notify-osd however --> notify-osd is already the newest version (0.9.35+16.04.20160415-0ubuntu1).
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> Kingsy: wich ubuntu version is that
[13:29] <glitsj16> Kingsy: now I see my mistake, sorry about that.. try /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/notify-osd instead
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> !info furiusisomount | ZSky can this help?
[13:30] <glitsj16> notify-osd it doesn't exist in /usr/bin, so that's why my previous attemt at help failed miserably
[13:31] <Kingsy> glitsj16: that works!
[13:32] <Kingsy> lotuspsychje: 16.10
[13:32] <glitsj16> :)
[13:32] <Kingsy> so why isnt there a systemd service to run this daemon automaticvally?
[13:33] <glitsj16> Kingsy: well, that's probably because it's depending on the DE in use, unity uses notify-osd, xfce has its own notifier, so does gnome-shell
[13:34] <Kingsy> ah ok, well I am using openbox.
[13:34] <Kingsy> so perhaps I should just add /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/notify-osd to the autostart file
[13:34] <glitsj16> Kingsy: that would work yes
[13:55] <jaydemir> can anyone tell me what setting I have to use so Kdenlive renders with all my CPU cores instead of just one?
[14:04] <Kingsy> glitsj16: thanks for the help
[14:04] <glitsj16> Kingsy: you're welcome, nice you have things working as expected
[14:43] <BoredDanMan> hey fellas, i've been trying to get my cron job to work for like 2 hours and i know it should be so simple but something is not going right. The cron job is basically just a shell script that runs a ruby script then copies a file to somewhere else. When i run the shell script OUTSIDE of /etc/cron.daily it works just fine. When it run it inside of /etc/cron.daily the ruby part seems to have different permissions (ruby spits back fi
[14:58] <kirillkh> hi! I'd like to downgrade this package: bcmwl-kernel-source. however, I'm not sure how to access older versions of it than the latest. "apt-cache show bcmwl-kernel-source" only shows the latest.
[15:00] <oerheks> kirillkh, why would you downgrade?
[15:00] <oerheks> that driver is available for years, and is getting better
[15:01] <kirillkh> oerheks: I ran into this problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/638670
[15:01] <oerheks> kirillkh, what ubuntu version are you on?
[15:02] <kirillkh> oerheks: I installed Ubuntu 17.04 -> rebooted -> wifi works as expected; then upgraded to the latest packages -> rebooted -> wifi doesn't connect (just asks for password repeatedly) -> disabled/enabled Networking -> wifi connects as expected
[15:02] <oerheks> .. but did bcmwl update? i didn't think so..
[15:03] <kirillkh> oerheks: agreed, but I don't know what else to try
[15:04] <oerheks> kirillkh, purge and reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source perhaps?
[15:09] <kirillkh> oerheks: well, I restarted the laptop, and it didn't happen now, so I guess I don't have a reliable way to reproduce it
[15:10] <kirillkh> oerheks: still purged and reinstalled as you suggested
[15:10] <kirillkh> oerheks: noticed an oddity, though: after I purged the module, I didn't get disconnected. does that make sense?
[15:11] <oerheks> reinstall should do no harm, indeed.
[15:11] <oerheks> ehm, the driver is still in memory/in use, this is normal ( also with apache2 and other services)
[15:11] <oerheks> after reboot it should stay disconnected
[15:12] <kirillkh> okay, thanks for your help
[15:18] <liquidLD> Hello. I have this issue with Ubuntu 16.10. When There is a single window showed on screen,and one grabs it and shakes it or when I move it out to the sides of the screen fast,the panel and dash start flickering like we're in an 80's disco,and eventually dissapear completelly until i release the window,and stop moving it across the screen. Any fix ? Thanks
[15:19] <liquidLD> btw,im no native english speaker,so my english might suffer
[15:20] <liquidLD> it should be easily reproduced,I think,by following those steps
[15:24] <liquidLD> Is there any way to disable opengl/compiz/3d stuff in ubuntu 16.10 ? I suspect its Compiz's fault
[15:31] <bopr>  i can see my IDE disk in hwinfo but not in gparted, what gives?
[15:40] <pavlos> bopr: dmesg should show the device, eg /dev/sdb and its partitions if any, sdb:sdb1 sdb2 etc
[15:49] <thuer> good day @ all
[15:50] <thuer> the last update to chromium 59.0.3071.109 is giving me headaches
[15:50] <thuer> it installed fine until i switched to gtk+-rendering
[15:50] <thuer> since then it is crashing with following error log
[15:51] <thuer> http://sprunge.us/MKiV
[15:51] <thuer> is this a know problem?
[15:52] <thuer> i am on ubuntu 16.04
[15:53] <sary> thuer: this is much suitable for/in #chromium-support .
[15:54] <thuer> sary: alright, trying over there. thank you
[15:54] <sary> thuer: np, yw.
[15:58] <bopr> @pavlos, i see it as a "Direct access Generic ATA/ATAPI Device as "[842855.528359] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk
[15:58] <bopr> "
[15:59] <bopr> @pavlos, how do i get access to /sda cause i can'd "cd" to it
[15:59] <EriC^^> bopr: mount it somewhere then cd to that
[16:00] <EriC^^> bopr: actually, you most likely need to mount a partition /dev/sda1 or so
[16:02] <pavlos> bopr: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o ro   then you should be able to see the contents in /mnt
[16:02] <bopr> boris@asclepius:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o ro
[16:02] <bopr> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[16:02] <bopr> boris@asclepius:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt -o ro
[16:02] <bopr> mount: no medium found on /dev/sda
[16:02] <bopr> curse this ancient platter!
[16:06] <jhutchins_wk> bopr: Have another look at dmesg, see if there are error messages after it detects.
[16:06] <pavlos> bopr: sudo fdisk /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:08] <bopr> @pavlos, fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: No medium found
[16:08] <bopr> the termbin is empty :( just the fdisk version and stuff
[16:10] <pavlos> bopr: dmesg | grep sda ... is there any info about sda
[16:11] <thuer> sary: it seems to be a know bug of only the version from ubuntu repos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1702501
[16:11] <thuer> sary: thanks anyway & have a good day :)
[16:11] <arun007> anyone here?
[16:12] <bopr> @pavlos, line 33
[16:12] <pavlos> bopr: dmesg | grep sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:13] <bopr> @pavlos, http://termbin.com/1c6f
[16:13] <arun007> why irc client says couldn't lookup your hostname
[16:14] <pavlos> bopr: there are no partitions in sda
[16:14] <ioria> bopr, it's a desktop ?
[16:15] <bopr> @pavlos, ioria i have an nvme drive for my ubuntu desktop and an IDE drive connected to a vantec USB3 IDE reader
[16:16] <ioria> bopr, so the ide it's an  external  drive ?
[16:18] <bopr> ioria, that's right, external "no name" drive from "magnetic data" https://www.amazon.ca/Magnetic-Md02500-bjbw-250gb-7200rpm-Drive/dp/B00NDI8PFS
[16:18] <bopr> and it's refurbished so it's double the shitty. I need to recover the contents one way or another
[16:19] <ioria> bopr,  and what you have in lsusb ?
[16:20] <bopr> http://termbin.com/fmos ioria it's not the Western digital that's a different drive
[16:21] <ioria> bopr,  ever worked with that vantec adapter ?
[16:21] <bopr> @ioria, i think it's the innostor
[16:22] <bopr> ioria, only in windows unfortunately but windows doesn't see it in disk management
[16:22] <bopr> actually it worked fine with sata, plug and play basically but this is the first time i'm using IDE
[16:24] <ioria> bopr, do you have for any chance a sata/ide adapter (guess not) ?
[16:25] <bopr> ioria, this is the exact model i have, i only have access to this one http://www.vantecusa.com/products_detail.php?p_id=90&p_name=IDE%2FSATA+TO+USB+3.0+Adapter&pc_id=5&pc_name=Hard+Drive+Adapters&pt_id=2&pt_name=Hard+Drive+Accessories
[16:26] <jost> Hi! I have created a virtual machine with XUbuntu on a remote server, and would like to run automated tests in browsers there, using Jenkins. I have installed all the needed browsers, but most of them need a display to work. Since there is no display connected, and the SSH session does not use X11 forwarding, the browsers won't start. I have found Xvfb as a workaround, using the commands `Xvfb :1 &` and `export DISPLAY=:1`. After those are executed, the tests
[16:26] <jost>  will run fine when started manually. But if the tests are run by Jenkins, the browsers won't find a display again. I've tried to add those commands to .bashrc, to .profile and some more things - It worked when running the tests manually using ssh, but it does not work when running them via Jenkins. What could be the problem, how to solve that?
[16:27] <pavlos> bopr: do you provide power (molex connector) to the drive?
[16:27] <ioria> bopr, no, i meant an internal one ... but ok
[16:27] <bopr> pavlos, absolutely, it's audibly spinning with a 4A 12V power supply
[16:28] <bopr> ioria, no internal sorry, i have a z97 chipset with no IDE connectors
[16:28] <nicomachus> hi all. I'm getting a warning message in chromium that says "$1 was blocked because it is out of date. [Update plugin] [Run this time]". The "update plugin" button just takes me to a page about updating Flash, but pepperflashplugin-nonfree is up to date. I'm on Chromium 59.0.3071.109 and Ubuntu 16.04
[16:28] <ioria> bopr, of course, so you might need an adapter ... :þ
[16:29] <ioria> bopr, https://www.google.it/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiN4KSEkf_UAhVDsBQKHcAUDL8QjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FGeneric-IDE-SATA-Adapter%2Fdp%2FB000RK89M4&psig=AFQjCNEEAo0K2onQ22s2-pg_UVENxn-uOA&ust=1499790470255089
[16:31] <bopr> ioria, how come the vantec IDE/SATA to USB 3.0 adapter isn't good enough?
[16:31] <bopr> Support Devices:    IDE & SATA I/II/III, SSDs, Hard Drives, CD/DVD/Blu-ray Drives*
[16:33] <ioria> bopr,  sy idk, at this point or you try another disk, or try another adapter
[16:33] <bopr> thanks for your help mate
[16:33] <jil> hello
[16:34] <jil> how do I automaticaly detect my keyboard layout ?
[16:34] <ozcanesen> when i login to 16.04.2 LTS server, motd says 22 packages can be updated. 10 updates are security updates. but it does not change when i do update&upgrade
[16:35] <Elec_A> Hi, I have two Network Interfaces connected. one of them has access to the internet but not the other one. The problem is I have to disable the second interface to be able to connect to the internet. Are there any kind of priorities for network-manager?
[16:35] <jil> I have a strange canadian keyboard and I m struggling to input some signs
[16:36] <jhutchins_wk> jil: Is your locale set correctly?
[16:37] <jil> yes I m looking for the app run at install that helps detecte le keyboard layout
[16:37] <nacc> ozcanesen: iirc, those scripts are only run on login
[16:37] <th0r> Elec_A: you can either handle that with by defining routes or by turning on ip4 forwarding
[16:39] <Elec_A> th0r: would you please explain either of the a bit more? where should I start or read?
[16:40] <th0r> Elec_A: are you using the computer as a gateway for a network or is it a standalone system
[16:40] <jhutchins_wk> Elec_A: Right click the NM applet, edit connections, choose the one with internet, click the Routes button and add a route.
[16:42] <nicomachus> is pepperflash now called adbole-flashplugin?
[16:42] <nicomachus> adobe-flashplugin*
[16:43] <jhutchins_wk> nicomachus: No.
[16:43] <Elec_A> th0r: It is a standalone system. The Lan is configured to use a gateway and our dns address to connect to the internet. but the infiniband is a private network.
[16:44] <minimec> nicomachus: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=pepperflashplugin-nonfree&searchon=names
[16:44] <nicomachus> jhutchins_wk: nvm, I was looking at this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/805639/i-cannot-install-pepper-flash-on-ubuntu-16-04#805641
[16:44] <Elec_A> jhutchins_wk: I am not sure how Routing will help me.
[16:44] <th0r> Elec_A: then the easy way out...define the route in nm like jhutchins_wk said.
[16:45] <minimec> nicomachus: The firefox bridge... https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash&searchon=names
[16:45] <Elec_A> th0r: I think I'm missing a point here. The route of what?
[16:46] <nicomachus> minimec: what's that?
[16:46] <th0r> Elec_A: you set up a default route to that interface. I never used Network Mangler to define a route, so jhutchins_wk will have to tell you how to do that.
[16:46] <Elec_A> th0r: Gateway and Netmask has already been configured. why should I define a route ?
[16:47] <minimec> nicomachus: First link I postet is the pepperflash package. The 2nd link makes pepperflash available in firefox.
[16:47] <nicomachus> minimec: thanks, I'm using Chromium though
[16:48] <th0r> Elec_A: anything going out wlan0 will go to the gateway, anything going out eth0 will go to THAT gateway. But what about something you generate locally...on the computer. Which way should it go? That is the routing
[16:48] <jhutchins_wk> Elec_A: Routing is the machanism that controls that.
[16:51] <Elec_A> th0r, jhutchins_wk Thank you, I have a very vague understanding of routing since I have not worked with it before. I have to study a bit more.
[16:53] <jhutchins_wk> Elec_A: It's probably easiest to set the default route to the internet card and the networks that are specific to the other card (local network) to the other card.
[16:55] <Elec_A> jhutchins_wk: Adding a route requests ipaddress, netmask and gateways, what confuses me is I have already entered these information for the interface. Should I do it again to create a route?
[16:56] <nicomachus> minimec: my flash is apparently out of date (Ubuntu repos ship pepper flash 25, current version is 26)
[16:59] <minimec> nicomachus: In fact I have become aware of exactly that problem with chromium and pepperflash on fedora26, but as chromium is just my 'backup browser' a wait for the bug to be resolved. It is nice to now that the problem is not only fedora or ubuntu related, but affects multiple distros. You will not see that problem with the google chrome version.
[17:01] <jhutchins_wk> Elec_A: It's asking for the information for the route, not the device.
[17:07] <jhutchins_wk> Elec_A: See if this helps: https://www.rootusers.com/how-to-create-static-routes-to-route-ip-traffic/
[17:08] <Elec_A> jhutchins_wk: Thank you. Sure. I'll look at it.
[17:14] <BoredDanMan> Im having trouble setting up my second monitor on ubuntu 16.04. Windows 10 seems to detect both HDMI ports, but xrandr only shows 1.
[17:23] <sary> BoredDanMan: with which GPU card , are you using the proprietary driver for it!
[17:27] <BoredDanMan> yeah i downloaded and installed the NVIDIA proprietary drivers
[17:29] <Dreaman> BoredDanMan: and
[17:29] <Dreaman> reboot
[17:30] <BoredDanMan> and i rebooted of course. Still not detecting.
[17:30] <BoredDanMan> The thing is, the port itself isnt even showing up in xrandr
[17:31] <BoredDanMan> is there any way i can like, get the hardware address in windows 10 and force it to connect to something?
[17:31] <Dreaman> kernel x.org video card
[17:31] <kirillkh> I installed KDE on top of a fresh Ubuntu 17.04 (not Kubuntu). it created a Home and Trash shortcuts on the desktop, but clicking Home brings up a "Choose Application - Plasma" dialog. what am I doing wrong?
[17:35] <BoredDanMan> Dreaman: whats that?
[17:35] <daveomcd> I'm wanting to set the priority on a process in ubuntu so it wont max out the usage - but I want to have it set so that anytime it's called the priority is set lower for it. How can I do this? I've only seen it where when I call the process name to execute it that I add "nice" before the call...
[17:35] <BoredDanMan> Dreaman: (kernel x.org video card)
[17:37] <sary> X should detect/use nvidia card + proprietary driver without any xorg.conf present
[17:37] <minimec> BoredDanMan: I  have a somehow crazy idea... Could you once try to 'blacklist snd_hda_intel'? Like that the nvidia hdmi sound output isn't loaded either. If that works, we can try to find a way to only disable the nvidia hdmi sound module... I have that strange feeling that nvidia hdmi audio might be the problem...
[17:37] <sary> is this a dual graphic machine BoredDanMan !
[17:38] <BoredDanMan> sary yes
[17:38] <BoredDanMan> I can get my dual monitors to work on windows 10
[17:38] <BoredDanMan> minimec: trying that now
[17:38] <glitsj16> daveomcd: make a drop-in script and let that call the 'real' program with the nice values you need.. either in ~/bin (for your user) or in /usr/local/bin (system-wide)
[17:39] <BoredDanMan> minimec: how would i go about blacklisting that?
[17:41] <nailyk> hi. I have a problem with a lan adapter intel i211. Link is constantly flapping making it unusable.
[17:41] <daveomcd> glitsj16, thanks!
[17:41] <nailyk> Any advices?
[17:41] <minimec> BoredDanMan: sudo echo 'blacklist snd_hda_intel' | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-intel-sound.conf
[17:41] <minimec> BoredDanMan: That should work.
[17:42] <minimec> BoredDanMan: check the result with 'cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-intel-sound.conf ; then reboot...
[17:43] <nailyk> partial syslog: http://paste.debian.net/975751/
[17:43] <glitsj16> daveomcd: no problem, just make sure the drop-in script has the exact same name as the real deal (refer to that using its full path)  and is executable
[17:44] <minimec> BoredDanMan: To be sure... I sugegst that you use a intel Chipset, which is pretty common nowadays...
[17:44] <BoredDanMan> pretty sure im using an intel chipset
[17:44] <BoredDanMan> ill try it
[17:45] <yao_ziyuan> i was interested in buying a 24" touchscreen for my desktop pc, but i did a test first: i ran a Ubuntu 17.04 live usb stick on a touchscreen laptop, and found ubuntu didn't support the touchscreen right click as windows did (long touching a screen position to right click).
[17:46] <yao_ziyuan> any solution?
[17:46] <minimec> BoredDanMan: If it wirks you will not have sound after reboot, using the internal soundcard. But it's just for a try. We can go further afterwards.
[17:47] <oerheks> yao_ziyuan, maybe that machine needs drivers from the driver menu, who can tell ??
[17:48] <BoredDanMan_> ok so something weird happened... My main monitor is working fine, but the other monitor is stuck displaying the ubuntu boot splash screen
[17:49] <jhutchins_wk>  BoredDanMan There should be an Nvidia utility that installed with the proprietary drivers.  That is probably what you need to enable the port.
[17:49] <minimec> BoredDanMan: Good! Now try to configure it in the monitors gui...
[17:50] <yao_ziyuan> oerheks: so if the touchscreen manufacturere provides drivers for linux, linux would support touchscreen-based right click like windows?
[17:50] <BoredDanMan_> Ive already installed and am using nvidia proprietary drivers (version 375)
[17:51] <oerheks> yao_ziyuan, install ubuntu and enable drivers and see if it works.. testing the live iso is not suitable for your situation
[17:51] <oerheks> or use 2 usb sticks, boot live and install on the 2nd usb and boot from that
[17:51] <BoredDanMan_> lets see, theres the nvidia x server settings utility
[17:51] <BoredDanMan_> xrandr still only showing one hdmi port
[17:52] <minimec> BoredDanMan_: Can you activate the second screen in nvidia-settings now?
[17:52] <BoredDanMan_> hmmm its still only detecting one display
[17:52] <sary> nailyk: did this issue occured after an update/upgrade .. were you using wicd prior to Network manager!
[17:53] <BoredDanMan_> im wondering if one of the hdmi ports is built into the intel chipset or something
[17:53] <nailyk> sary: thk for answering. tbho I don't remember when it start first.
[17:53] <BoredDanMan_> that would be weird but its possible
[17:53] <nailyk> sary: no wicd, only wired network
[17:54] <minimec> BoredDanMan_: Ok. In that case you can 'sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-intel-sound.conf' to delete the file we created and reboot again. My suggestion did not do the trick... ;)
[17:54] <BoredDanMan_> minimec: want to see the output of my lspci?
[17:56] <minimec> BoredDanMan_: I don't think that will help, as the card is recognized by the system. It would only show us the exact hardware you are using. Still... That output might be the starting point for debugging.
[17:57] <minimec> BoredDanMan_: I am pretty sure that using DVI as example for one of the monitors would work without problems.
[17:57] <BoredDanMan_> that is likely, but right now i only have hdm cords hahaha
[17:58] <BoredDanMan_> and it *should* work
[17:58] <BoredDanMan_> it works in windows 10
[17:58] <nailyk> after enabling pcie_aspm=off kernel option syslog had new entries: http://paste.debian.net/975752/
[18:01] <BoredDanMan_> oooh wait maybe i have xinerama enabled
[18:05] <sary> nailyk: Looks like you have something called "link flap! Link flap is when Energy Efficient Ehernet is enabled.  what is " nmcli c show "  shown!
[18:06] <Jordan_U> ODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODyao_ziyuan: I don't have a touchscreen to test with. From my googling it looks like Ubuntu doesn't enable touch and hold for right click by default.
[18:07] <Jordan_U> (Sorry about the junk in that message. Working from a very laggy ssh session)
[18:07] <nailyk> sary: indeed link is flapping. http://paste.debian.net/975757/
[18:07] <glitsj16> looked like you were practicing your jodeling skills there for a second
[18:09] <Jordan_U> yao_ziyuan: This post seems to have a simple solution, but it may be out of date and not apply to current Ubuntu releases: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2257213
[18:14] <BoredDanMan_> any more ideas for dual monitor?
[18:15] <nailyk> am wondering if the computer is using the e1000 module?
[18:20] <nailyk> I find an old issue marked as solved: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-utopic/+bug/1492146
[18:20] <nailyk> am on 4.4.0-79
[18:26] <nailyk> mhhh. Adding iommu=soft to the cmdline make the adapter working.
[18:26] <nailyk> What is the default option for iommu?
[18:32] <freelancerbob> who can help me with broken USB ?
[18:32] <freelancerbob> how to fix it ?
[18:33] <arun007> how did you broke it?
[18:33] <Jordan_U> !details | freelancerbob
[18:34] <freelancerbob> i just unplug it and try plug it again, seems like read-only device and only 5KB
[18:34] <freelancerbob> it is 4GB usb stick
[18:36] <pankaj> This question may be out of the topic but please if anyone knows something then it would be very grateful. I was reading ubuntu documentation on servers. In ftp server section I read a line: "A major difference is that users of SFTP need
[18:36] <pankaj> to have a shell account on the system, instead of a nologin shell.". I do not know what this line means correctly.
[18:36] <Jordan_U> freelancerbob: USB sticks die rather frequently. Did you have important data on this USB stick that you don't have other copies of elsewhere?
[18:37] <Sleaker> pankaj: when you connect via sftp, you're by default logging into an actual account on the system with shell access
[18:37] <Sleaker> ie: one that can get a terminal prompt.
[18:37] <yao_ziyuan> oerheks: am installing ubuntu on that touchscreen laptop as you suggested. besides, i checked the website for the touchscreen i was interested in buying (ViewSonic TD2420), and it only provided drivers for windows.
[18:38] <freelancerbob> Jordan_U: no there were not important data, but i would like to know if there is some way how to fix it
[18:38] <pankaj> Sleaker: What about nologin shell?
[18:38] <Sleaker> pankaj: what about it?
[18:39] <Sleaker> pankaj: I suggest checking the man-page on nologin. it's a program
[18:39] <pankaj> Sleaker: What is nologin user. What is its importance. I have been trying to find about it for much time.
[18:39] <Sleaker> pankaj: you set a users shell (the program that runs when they login) to /sbin/nologin
[18:41] <pankaj> Sleaker: OK. man page provided enough info. But still.
[18:42] <Jordan_U> freelancerbob: Probably not.
[18:42] <pankaj> Sleaker: man page says that nologin is used as something like to refuse conection for login since the account does not exist.
[18:44] <pankaj> Sleaker: Hello
[18:45] <yao_ziyuan> Jordan_U: i tried "Simulated Secondary Click" when i tested a ubuntu 17.04 live usb stick on a touchscreen laptop. it worked but a little differently from windows: it required me to tap once and then quickly hold down my finger at the same screen position for 1-2 seconds to make a right click, while in windows i only had to directly hold down for 1 second (without the prior tapping).
[18:45] <seruyuku> Hi all.  For 2 days I have tried to partition my Win10 and install Ubuntu but I cannot get the boot to work right.   I have been through stack tutorials and blogs and I still can't get an option for dual boot between Win10 and Ubuntu.   Any help is appreciated!
[18:46] <Sleaker> pankaj: correct.
[18:47] <Sleaker> pankaj: specifically it states that 'it's not available for login' - it does not mean the account doesn't exist.
[18:48] <akik> seruyuku: have you checked whether you have a menu in your bios where you can set an efi file as a bootable file? i had to do this on a acer laptop
[18:48] <pankaj> Sleaker: OK
[18:50] <BoredDanMan> anyone have experience installing intel HD graphics drivers on ubuntu 16.04? I tried their new tool and now im getting stuck at the loading screen
[18:51] <BoredDanMan> seems like the microcode module is blacklisted?
[18:53] <akik> BoredDanMan: the intel graphics drivers come with the kernel
[18:53] <akik> BoredDanMan: i915 is the name
[18:53] <BoredDanMan> hmmm
[18:54] <akik> maybe i965 too
[18:54] <BoredDanMan> i think its i915
[18:54] <seruyuku> akik:  Thanks for your response!   I am looking in the BIOS now.   Under Boot sequence I only have option for Windows boot manager and UEFI: INT13(USB,0x80).   I assume the second one if my USB drive.
[18:54] <BoredDanMan> the hdmi attached to the gpu is working fine - the hdmi attached to the intel HD graphics integrated card is the one thats not working
[18:54] <BoredDanMan> akik: yes that should be your USB
[18:55] <akik> seruyuku: there should be another page with uefi settings
[18:55] <Sleaker> skylake support is in kernel > 4.3
[18:55] <Sleaker> so unless you have something super super new, 16.04 has everything you need as a baseline.
[18:56] <seruyuku> akik: I see now the boot options for UEFI.   I can specify a file name for boot.   RIght now it is \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
[18:56] <akik> seruyuku: can you add another file there?
[18:56] <seruyuku> akik:  No it just lets me look at it
[18:56] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: what CPU do you have?
[18:56] <BoredDanMan> i7
[18:56] <seruyuku> I can add a boot option though?
[18:56] <akik> seruyuku: sometimes you need to change the admin password to do the edit
[18:57] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: what CPU do you have...
[18:57] <akik> seruyuku: \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi works with ubuntu
[18:57] <Sleaker> i7 means nothing, there's been 7-8 generations of i7 CPUs
[18:58] <ResQue> in a fresh virtual box install, under Additional Drivers, "VirtualBox Graphics Adapter" is marked as "This device is not working" how can i troubleshoot or find more info on this error please
[18:58] <BoredDanMan> my bad, its an i7-7700
[18:58] <Sleaker> k that's a kaby-lake
[18:58] <Sleaker> I'm not sure if kernel 4.4 fully supports that chipset which is what was in xenial.
[18:58] <seruyuku> akik:  Ok I found that file and changed the sequence to it.   Restarting, fingers crossed!
[18:59] <yao_ziyuan> oerheks: installed ubuntu 17.04 beside windows on my touchscreen laptop. there is no proprietary touchscreen driver for me to choose in the Drivers tab in "Software and Updates".
[18:59] <pavlos> ResQue: did you install VB additions on guest?
[18:59] <ResQue> pavlos: yes, using the ISO from vbox menu, should i use the version from ubuntu repos?
[18:59] <BoredDanMan> right now my kernel is 4.10 i believe
[19:00] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: you got the hardware refresh kernel/latest install?
[19:00] <seruyuku> akik:  For some reason it loaded a GRUB menu that only has try Ubuntu w/out installing, install Ubuntu, OEM install, check disc for defects..   Sounds like my USB boot?
[19:00] <seruyuku> akik:  I might have loaded the boot file from the USB drive.  I'm going back in the BIOS to look to see.
[19:01] <BoredDanMan> Sleaker: Updating now
[19:01] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: hmm.. should work out of the box then.
[19:01] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: sounds good.
[19:01] <BoredDanMan> my bad im on kernel 4.8 not 4.10
[19:01] <pavlos> ResQue: look in /var/log/ there are some vb log files
[19:02] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: if it's available to get, 4.10 has kaby lake support apparently
[19:02] <ResQue> pavlos: ok thanks i will do that now
[19:02] <BoredDanMan> lol im scared everything else is gonna break when i update the kernel
[19:02] <BoredDanMan> im a linux noob
[19:03] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: looks like HWE kernel above 4.8 wont be availablt until next month
[19:03] <jhutchins_wk> BoredDanMan: You should be able to boot to the old kernel if the new one doesn't work.
[19:03] <Sleaker> so support for your CPU isn't 100% and you may need to wait.
[19:04] <Sleaker> I'm not sure if anyone else here has dealt with kaby lake support, but I've only poked around with sky lake.
[19:04] <seruyuku> akik:   I have FS0 and FS1 in my boot selection menu.    On FSO there is a boot directory, but the only file is BOOTX64.EFI.    When I loaded the FS1 file with the path you gave me that only gave me those options that looked the installer ISO.
[19:04] <Sleaker> so can't really help much :-/
[19:05] <akik> seruyuku: can you remove the usb stick before booting? why do you keep it connected?
[19:06] <seruyuku> akik:  Trying now
[19:07] <BoredDanMan> Im going to try and install 4.10, hopefully it will work
[19:07] <seruyuku> akik:   removed USB and it booted straight into Windows
[19:08] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: from where? I didn't see it available yet
[19:08] <jhutchins_wk> seruyuku: You appear to have installed the bootloader to the USB instead of the HD.  That happens.
[19:08] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
[19:09] <akik> seruyuku: did you check the boot sequence for any changes?
[19:09] <akik> seruyuku: i mean the boot order in the bios
[19:09] <BoredDanMan> Sleaker: from the mainline
[19:09] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: ?
[19:09] <seruyuku> akik:  I will look at the bios again.
[19:09] <BoredDanMan> i dont think its officially supported on 16.04
[19:10] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: I highly recommend sticking with Ubuntu-only kernels.
[19:10] <BoredDanMan> was going to follow this guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/896497/how-can-i-upgrade-kernel-to-version-4-10-on-ubuntu-16-04
[19:10] <ResQue> where can i find the man or help page for the command "sudo m-a prepare"
[19:10] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: if you need newer hardware support either wait till next month, or dist-upgrade/reinstall up to 17.04
[19:10] <Sleaker> 17.04 has 4.10
[19:14] <BoredDanMan> reinstalling the OS means ill have to reinstall all the hardware again, yes?
[19:14] <BoredDanMan> if thats the case maybe ill just wait until next month
[19:14] <Sleaker> uhh what do you mean reinstall the hardware?
[19:14] <seruyuku> akik:  now my boot option that I added that was taking me to an Ubuntu install GRUB doesn't work.   Because the USB isn't in I assume.
[19:14] <BoredDanMan> *software
[19:14] <Sleaker> for the most part installing the OS should have hardware support.
[19:14] <seruyuku> akik: Should I try boot-repair?
[19:15] <Sleaker> uh you'd need to reselect the packages.
[19:15] <BoredDanMan> gotchya
[19:15] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: the other option is to attempt a dist-upgrade to zesty.
[19:15] <Sleaker> that may be possible.
[19:16] <BoredDanMan> hmm maybe worth looking into
[19:16] <glitsj16> BoredDanMan: follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack to get newer kernels on 16.04
[19:16] <Sleaker> glitsj16: not available till August.
[19:16] <Sleaker> needs the kernel/HWE that's currently in zesty.
[19:17] <ozcanesen> which path do you guys prefer to put ssl certificates? i am not asking how to install, i am asking like /etc/certificates or /home or /var which is better?
[19:18] <glitsj16> Sleaker: yes i agree, just offering the supported way to get newer kernels to BoredDanMan
[19:18] <Sleaker> glitsj16: yah I suggested that path initially and gave all the options :D
[19:18] <DeeJayh> Is there a way to use the ubuntu core without snaps? I used to use the core on minimalist builds to have only what I need/want kind of like a archlinux/gentoo style build if you will
[19:18] <BoredDanMan> so i guess the real question is, to wait a month or just install zesty
[19:18] <glitsj16> Sleaker: than an 'my  apologies and ignore' is in order :)
[19:19] <BoredDanMan> im a bit new to the Ubuntu community, so i went with the "safe" option of 16.04 LTS support. Any risks i might run into upgrading to zesty?
[19:19] <DeeJayh> no more LTS
[19:20] <ioria> BoredDanMan, run zesty in vm .... ?
[19:20] <DeeJayh> or run it chrooted
[19:21] <DeeJayh> BoredDanMan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[19:22] <seruyuku> jhutchins_wk:  I tried to run boot-repair but was in legacy mode so it failed.  Now I will try to change BIOS to boot the USB in the correct mode so I can run boot-repair
[19:22] <Sleaker> ioria: that wont work if he they need hardware support from the updated kernel specifically.
[19:23] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: it really depends. for desktop use I don't see much reason on sticking with LTS stuff.
[19:23] <BoredDanMan> yeah im not running a server or anything
[19:23] <DeeJayh> ^Sleaker^ Server administration is the big reason for LTS and only on a business level
[19:23] <ioria> BoredDanMan, are you on lts ?
[19:23] <Sleaker> you just don't get extended security update support.
[19:23] <BoredDanMan> it is my work computer though, so i need it to work and not get a virus
[19:24] <BoredDanMan> not that linux viruses are really a thing lmao
[19:24] <Sleaker> BoredDanMan: the biggest thing is to stay current you'll need to run dist-upgrade basically every 6 months or so
[19:24] <Sleaker> 'virus' isn't the issue. the issue is having package with remote exploits however rare they might be.
[19:24] <DeeJayh> so no one knows about ubuntu core? Is it only snappy now? Is there no way to run with just the ubuntu core?
[19:25] <Sleaker> didn't ubuntu core get scrapped?
[19:25] <Sleaker> I may be mis-remembering.
[19:25] <nacc> DeeJayh: #snappy for such questions
[19:25] <DeeJayh> BoredDanMan, curious, what work do you do that allows you to use ubuntu?
[19:25] <DeeJayh> glad to see it getting use
[19:26] <DeeJayh> nacc, ty!
[19:26] <nacc> DeeJayh: yw
[19:27] <ioria> Sleaker, you mean do-release-upgrade not dist-upgrade every six monts ?
[19:27] <Sleaker> oh yah that.
[19:27] <ioria> ok
[19:27] <Sleaker> :D
[19:28] <BoredDanMan> DeeJayh I'm the only software dev at a small firm
[19:28] <BoredDanMan> i tried coding on windows for a week... just no
[19:32] <ioria> BoredDanMan, and ... ? you need 4.10 actually ?
[19:33] <Sleaker> ioria: BoredDanMan is having problems with kabylake support in 16.04.
[19:34] <ResQue> trying to install virtualbox guest additions but i get the following errors "ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.";" and "include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.;" and "Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.;"
[19:34] <ioria> Sleaker, i see
[19:34] <Sleaker> when I checked up on that it looked like it wasn't really supported until kernel 4.10
[19:36] <ioria> BoredDanMan, should be easy to test with mainline ... in the worse case you purge the packages
[19:36] <pavlos> ResQue: my guest is 17.10 I installed build-essential and then mounted the VB iso, and ran the VBadditions.run It compiled, the log files show success.
[19:37] <BoredDanMan> honestly i think im just going to upgrade to 17.04
[19:37] <BoredDanMan> i dont need 5 year support
[19:39] <ResQue> pavlos: i will try the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential" and try again
[19:39] <ioria> BoredDanMan, you can also download from here the kernel and  the two headers pkgs : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[19:40] <seruyuku> jhutchins_wk:  I ran boot-repair.    Computer still booting into Win10.   In BIOS/Boot sequence I do see boot-sav now but don't see a grubx64.efi file
[19:40] <sary> nailyk: eems like there is an additional netword device defined "..", that doesn't seem conected to anything and therefore is not being used. However network manager keeps trying to start it using DHCP Client. Dynamically you can turn the connection down with nmcli, nmcli c down UUIDofInterfaceHere . You should not see the messages anymore. However next reboot it will come back. To make it permanent, change
[19:40] <sary> the connection's configuration. You can do this using nmtui which will make it text based graphics.
[19:40] <sary> Select Interfacename and disable auto enable.
[19:40] <sary> err,!
[19:40] <ResQue> pavlos: it seems it is already installed, "build-essential is already the newest version (12.1ubuntu2)"
[19:41] <BoredDanMan> ioria: what would i download? just the kernel image?
[19:41] <pavlos> ResQue: Devices Insert additions, then double click the CD, it should say autorun this
[19:41] <nailyk> sary: I added iommu=soft on kernel and am connected with the igb now
[19:41] <nailyk> but no idea what it changes and how to do this only for the igb
[19:42] <ioria> BoredDanMan, the kernel and  the two headers  (all.deb and amd64)
[19:42] <pavlos> ResQue: open autorun prompt, click run ... after a while, look in /var/log/ for vb log files when compile was success
[19:42] <ioria> BoredDanMan, have yo ever installed pkds with sudo dpkg -i ?
[19:42] <nailyk> sary: I remember changing this settings for my debian virtualbox. Probably related to passtrough
[19:43] <pavlos> ResQue: I need to leave in 5 min, I will check after an hour
[19:43] <BoredDanMan> nope
[19:43] <BoredDanMan> only apt
[19:43] <ioria> BoredDanMan,  leave it , then (idw to mess your sys)
[19:43] <sary> nailyk: i don't know what igb and iommu=soft have to do whith that issue .. but OK.
[19:44] <ResQue> pavlos: i did the install it finished, but there is an error in the log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/25063200/ --- ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid." include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing. Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it."
[19:44] <seruyuku> Can anyone help me with dual boot (Ubuntu and Win10).  I have a Win 10 machine.   I partitioned and installed Ubuntu from USB.   I cannot get the Ubuntu to boot.   I just tried boot repair and still no luck.
[19:44] <ResQue> pavlos: ok, thanks for taking the time. see you in an hour i will come back and let you know if i solved it or not either way
[19:45] <nailyk> sary: from what I readed the problem of flapping link is caused by a "bad" virtual memory management for the device which cause hangs on the network card.
[19:46] <nailyk> sary: igb is the generic controller name. Intel GB I guess
[19:48] <nailyk> looks like iommu=soft disable the built in chip and use a software management instead.
[19:48] <nailyk> It can explain why graphics performances looks changed now.
[19:50] <nailyk> had to go. Thanks for the help sary :)
[19:53] <ioria> BoredDanMan,  brw, if you are on xenial you can install linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge
[19:53] <ioria> !info linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge xenial
[19:55] <JoeLlama> Hi there :)  I have multiple Dell netbooks with Atom N270...  They have ubuntu 9.10 and user passwords that I need to reset.  Internal SSD 16G and really the only way in is through USB ports.  How do I reset the user passwords?
[19:58] <pankaj> Hi guys, I am configuring NFS Server. Having problem with /etc/exports file.
[19:58]  * ASpacy eyes JoeLlama 
[19:58] <JoeLlama> hi ASpacy :)
[19:58] <ASpacy> hi
[19:58] <JoeLlama> I bought them on eBay ASpacy
[19:59] <JoeLlama> I gots 5 (:\
[20:00] <JoeLlama> I must research... gunna find the latest version of ubuntu
[20:00] <JoeLlama> the auction said they were all wiped... apparently not!
[20:01] <Ben64> the latest version is 17.04, the latest LTS is 16.04
[20:01] <JoeLlama> wow!
[20:01] <JoeLlama> ya these are old netbooks...  I don't think they have been charged in years
[20:01] <JoeLlama> what is LTS Ben64?
[20:02] <Ben64> !lts
[20:02] <JoeLlama> oh ok wow gunna be quite the learning curve...  I'm glad these came with ubuntu that is the Linux I wanted to learn
[20:05] <yao_ziyuan> implementing a Windows-like hold-to-right-click feature for touchscreens, is it a task for desktop environments, the X Window System, or the linux kernel?
[20:06] <JoeLlama> heh no touch screen here
[20:06] <JoeLlama> old dell 8.9 inch screens
[20:07] <JoeLlama> they'se pewny
[20:08] <JoeLlama> so anyone know how to reset a user password
[20:09] <Southern_Gentlem> yao_ziyuan,  yes
[20:09] <Ben64> JoeLlama: 9.10 is too old, time to wipe it and install either 16.04 or 17.04
[20:09] <JoeLlama> no upgrade Ben64?
[20:10] <Ben64> would have to go 9.10 -> 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04
[20:10] <JoeLlama> I am curious what is on the SSD though
[20:10] <yao_ziyuan> Southern_Gentlem: ? my question is not a yes/no one
[20:10] <JoeLlama> not that I am malicious or anything
[20:10] <JoeLlama> oh...  ok
[20:10] <Ben64> and most of those lost support many years ago
[20:11] <JoeLlama> oh
[20:17] <ccmonster> anyone have issues with Docker on Ubuntu 16.04? #docker isn't exactly helpful at the moment.
[20:18] <ccmonster> dns issues. the container can't seem to see the network at all.
[20:20] <pankaj> I do not know but my nfs server has successfully started. But as soon as I type command to mount nfs Directory it fails.
[20:20] <ResQue> can someone help, i cant tell if virtualbox guest additions have been install successful or not, in vboxadd-install.log there is an error message about "Kernel configuration is invalid." but maybe this is just a check and not a fail. Also under "Additional Drivers" the "VirtualBox Graphics Adapter" is marked as "This device is not working". here is the complete log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/25063200/
[20:20] <pankaj> It says wrong fs type, wrong superblock.
[20:26] <Cedara> Hi, need help
[20:26] <Cedara> reinstallation of Ubuntu 16.04 on a different motherboard that has UEFI
[20:26] <Cedara> wanted to install corebird but it's hanging
[20:27] <Cedara> how do I safely check what's wrong?
[20:35] <Cedara> good evening
[20:37] <bencc> what's the correct way to delete a user and his group from the command line
[20:37] <akik> bencc: userdel username, add -r to remove the home dir
[20:38] <akik> bencc: use groupdel to remove the group if that doesn't remove it
[20:39] <bencc> thanks
[20:40] <Cedara> Reinstallation of ubuntu 16.04 on a new motherboard and graphic card. I have put the basic system up and I'm quite sure I installed all updates. It's been a while since I last installed and never before on a uefi board. It's now running on a galium driver and I would like to use the nvidia one. Which of the two is it though?
[20:40] <Cedara> (Addendum : I messed up first time around and had to install the system a second time)
[20:41] <Cedara> the graphic card is an nvidia GTX750
[20:42] <Cedara> the motherboard is M5A97 ASUS
[20:43] <yorwos> i did an installation of ampps which is a software stack for publishing mostly. i didn't really look into it as the guy that proposed it to me was swearing by it. it appears after installing it i can't run electrum (bitcoin wallet) due to qt4 undefined symbols. the issue seems to be pyqt versioning if not more with python and qt4. after this i found out there is no way actual removing or uninstalling ampps. what would u suggest i do ?
[20:49] <glitsj16> yorwos: did you follow a guide to install this ampps?
[20:50] <yorwos> it was simply executing a .run file for installing it
[20:51] <glitsj16> ouch.. those things can be a pain to undo.. do you have a link to it?
[20:51] <yorwos> http://www.ampps.com/wiki/Installing_AMPPS_on_Linux
[20:52] <glitsj16> yorwos: thx, having a look..
[20:52] <[jasper]> hej guys, Iḿ trying to make jnlp run with an older java version. I changed the alternatives...but these are like user instead of system settings right?
[20:52] <[jasper]> any idea how I can change the system installed version?
[20:53] <ResQue> pavlos: everything installed fine, there is still bugs in the log file in the link i sent you before but i dont think these are fatel errors just basic checks done by the installer. anyway thanks for the help the i did what you said and the installer finished. thanks again
[20:54] <glitsj16> yorwos: it claims that AMPPS is installed on fixed path /usr/local/ampps .. if that's correct, you can simply remove that dir
[20:55] <yorwos> i did rename the directory to ampps.bak to break using any of the inside qt4 files but im still getting the same error messages
[20:56] <glitsj16> yorwos: you could run 'sudo updatedb && locate ampps' to check if it dropped something in a different location
[20:58] <glitsj16> yorwos: and run a 'sudo ldconfig' after removal, that might point electrum back to what it needs instead of what ampps installed.. no guarantees though with these kind of apps, but you know that already
[20:58] <yorwos> /sbin/ldconfig.real: File /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so is empty, not checked. is this normal ?
[20:59] <yorwos> maybe i should do a clean re-install of ubuntu ? its been anyway upgraded from 12.04->14.04->16.04 , keeping the /home partition and formating the rest only should be easy in the livecd yes ?
[21:00] <glitsj16> yorwos: no that isn't normal, QtCore from repos would never install something under /usr/local
[21:02] <glitsj16> yorwos: that would be the longer route to take, which would work.. but you could try reinstalling qt and electrum also, i think the linker got confused with entrees in /usr/local from ampps
[21:02] <[jasper]> hej guys, how do I change the system wide java variables instead of the user variables?
[21:02] <yorwos> ill try reinstalling them and see how it goes, but im afraid more links might be broken
[21:03] <glitsj16> yorwos: probably the best idea in fact, now you're in the dark and that's never a comfortable position to be in
[21:09] <yorwos> yea it dont feel right other ways, ill reinstall the os thanx for the help and input
[21:09] <yorwos> time for backups hoho
[21:09] <MrStein> Any gfx guys here? Is there a way to find out the supported HDMI version of a gfx card? I have a GeForce GT 530.
[21:09] <glitsj16> yorwos: heh, smart thinking
[21:09] <seruyuku> Hello.   I cannot get my Ubuntu install to boot.   I have installed as a dual boot with Windows10.   I have tried boot-repair.  Still no luck.  Can anyone help?
[21:12] <glitsj16> [jasper]: anything under /etc/alternatives is in fact system-wide.. but I'm not sure what you mean by 'java variables'.. Did you use a GUI like galternatives to change defaults? CLI commands?
[21:16] <pavlos> ResQue: I get the same error, version.h not found but the log continues and at the end creates user for Vbox, etc. Also, after reboot I see some info on dmesg. Glad is working for you.
[21:16] <seruyuku> Should I just give up and be a windows user?
[21:17] <[jasper]> glitsj16, I installed 3 java versions
[21:17] <[jasper]> when I run javaws as root user I just get the java thatś auto selected
[21:17] <[jasper]> but when I run it as my own user...for some reason it sees the latest version
[21:20] <[jasper]> anyone?
[21:21] <glitsj16> [jasper]: https://askubuntu.com/questions/184360/how-can-i-select-which-java-to-use offers a way to use aliases
[21:52] <ResQue> pavlos: thanks dude :)
[21:53] <pavlos> ResQue: yw
[22:07] <Purplex> Hi guys. Just a little question. I have put a sticker on my camera on my laptop (yeah, a bit too paranoid) and I have these flashes on my screen from time to time as if somebody is making screendumps.
[22:07] <Purplex> Could it be that?
[22:07] <Purplex> Or maybe something's wrong with my screen?
[22:39] <konrados> Hi, I have a small issue. Everytime I press "one" on the keyboard I get the grave accent preceding, like this: `1 - what should I do?
[22:41] <konrados> I'll try disconnecting the keyboard :)
[22:42] <YankDownUnder> Keyboard layout would appear to be incorrect.
[22:42] <konrados> `1
[22:42] <konrados> same thing:(
[22:42] <konrados> `1 YankDownUnder - thanks, but what should I do now?
[22:42] <deeeeenis> Hi, i have a notebook running ubuntu, bc my internal onboard sd is very small i have a sdcard as /home mp, but after time it goes ro. is there a fix for this ?
[22:43] <konrados> reconnecting the keyboard didn't work
[22:45] <Tabmow> konrados, http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Keyboard-Layout-in-Ubuntu
[22:45] <konrados> In the settings -> hardware -> keyboard I have keyboard model: "generic | generic `10`1 key pc""
[22:45] <konrados> Tabmow, sec
[22:46] <Tabmow> It could also be your actual keyboard considering those keys are next to each other.
[22:47] <konrados> Tabmow, thanks, but my 'system settings' look totally different that the one on the above link, I for one don't have an item like 'text entry'
[22:49] <konrados> I have "Keyboard Hardware and Layout" and the list of "layouts" is empty...
[22:51] <dreamon_> mpv manual found this → mf://[filemask|@listfile] --mf-...(Play a series of images as video.)
[22:51] <konrados> changing to "generic | generic 104 key pc" didn't work either, nothing works, please ....
[22:52] <[n0mad]> konrados: you really should try a different keyboard if all the other keys are responding as you would expect
[22:52] <dreamon_> so created a filelist. and wanted to start with "mpv mf://@/tmp/filelist.txt" but fails → Playing: mf://@/tmp/files.txt → [mf] number of files: 0
[22:53] <dreamon_> I think im doing it wrong
[22:53] <konrados> [n0mad], I'm pretty sure I pressed something, i.e. a keyboard shortcut, I was in a hurry... I just changed something and don't know what was it
[22:54] <konrados> I'll restart the pc, I'll be back, thanks everyone for the help
[23:04] <opessoa> ok, registered
[23:04] <opessoa> ;)
[23:04] <opessoa> guys I have some problem with my wireless atheros 9485
[23:04] <opessoa> someone can help me?
[23:07] <sary> nailyk: noted.
[23:07] <sary> opessoa: state the the problem..
[23:08] <opessoa> I have windows 7 in my all in one , and linux in my usb hd, in my windows, wireless is working, but on linux not
[23:08] <reogl> Hi all.. trying to boot into an ubuntu install on a PC that wasn't mine... can't even get to grub... Have been in Knoppix and I can mount and browse the drive, just won't boot... Here's the boot-repair log: https://pastebin.com/uvCMzbRn
[23:08] <opessoa> rfkill list - returns me hard blocked
[23:09] <reogl> is there a better place to ask my question? or is this OK
[23:10] <opessoa> sary: I always get backdoors make and install it, nothing
[23:12] <opessoa> sary: 01:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[23:12] <opessoa> sary: 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[23:12] <opessoa> 	Soft blocked: no
[23:12] <opessoa> 	Hard blocked: yes
[23:14] <sary> opessoa: hard blocked" means what it says: -hardware- is blocking your wifi. So ... either you have a slider on the side of your notebook or you have a keyboard combination (like Fn F7 Mitch suggested) or you have a BIOS setting where wifi is disabled. As far as I know that are probably all the options. So if the 1st 2 are checked you could check your BIOS.
[23:16] <opessoa> sary: is an "all In one" with no wifi toogle button, and no BIOS config for wireless
[23:16] <konrados> Hi, I just wanted to say that I feel like I was using windows - restarting the OS did the thing, now everything works fine, thanks again!
[23:18] <opessoa> sary: It's a windows pc, but I get install linux in an usb hd
[23:21] <sary> opessoa: i will need to see the whole output of rfkill list all , paste it into http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:22] <opessoa> sary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25064570/
[23:26] <kd4wov1> where would i get help with problems in seahorse and gnupg? i am running ubuntu studio 16.04 lts
[23:27] <sary> opessoa: i see, i thought there might be another module loaded and interfering!
[23:27] <genii> kd4wov1: Best to describe your problem to the channel here in a bit more detail first and see if someone gives some guidance on it
[23:27] <opessoa> sary: I have pasted iwconfig too
[23:28] <opessoa> sary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25064590/
[23:29] <sary> opessoa: also please add the output of $ sudo lshw -C network
[23:30] <kd4wov1> ok. i upgraded the gnupg and seahorse (password and keys i believe uses it) well somewhere along the line. i now get bad passphrase, and you enter a wrong passphrase 3 times when i try to do anything with the keys. inface when i try to generate a new key it says general error.
[23:30] <opessoa> sary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25064611/
[23:32] <kd4wov1> i have tried to uninstall gnupgp and gpa and seahorse.
[23:32] <kd4wov1> seems i broke the ecyrption sub system
[23:35] <sary> opessoa: just one laste check , please paste the output of lsmod .
[23:35] <kd4wov1> Or if you have a suggestion on how to check each program individually that might be a better pointer
[23:36] <sary> reogl: what is the boot mode , Legacy or UEFI!
[23:36] <reogl> @sary tried both
[23:36] <reogl> I think I just got it working
[23:36] <sary> Great!
[23:36] <reogl> did a full reinstall of grub on all partitions
[23:38] <opessoa> sary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25064644/
[23:42] <vimart> Hi all
[23:44] <sary> opessoa: thanks, first i suggest you boot into Windows and enabling wifi there. Leave it enabled, shutdown and boot into ubuntu and see if it now works.  if wifi doesn;t come up .. please /join #ubuntu again.
[23:44] <sary> Hey!
[23:46] <opessoa> sary: How can I do that, I always use wifi on windows.
[23:47] <opessoa> It's always enabled
[23:49] <sary> opessoa: alright then , i suggest you download the user manual for your machine , find the hotkey to enable/disable wifi .. you may try this in ubuntu : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25064693/