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vickerswtthis is complicated00:31
vickerswtthe thing is that I can go online and i'll get a bunch of different ipv4 addresses but none are the actual addresses of my pi. The "address" of my pi is I believe to be a mixture of my ip and mac address for better security. Is there a way to actually figure out my pi's ip without actually messing with the router because I'm not in the mood to have a whole new setup in another part of the house via lan. I prefer wireless00:33
vickerswtI need to be able to see through the ipv6 address00:33
bray90820So I am on ubuntu mate in a raspberry pi B+ and I am getting 100% cpu usage with the web browser01:55
KTradsounds about right01:58
bray90820Just moving the mouse gives me 25%01:59
bray90820Any way to reduce it?02:00
bray90820I was hoping to be able to use the thing as a headless music server02:03
bray90820KTrad:02:04
bray90820Would a pi zero be good enough to run ubuntu mate for a headless music server?05:00
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Guest74106hi guest06:43
alkisgflexiondotorg: hi, in recent Ubuntu versions, ubuntu-mate-desktop doesn't depend on e.g. tlp at all, and only recommends e.g. ubuntu-welcome etc. I'd like to file an SRU for 16.04, to lower some of the dependencies to recommendations or remove them completely. I can do the paperwork as long as you, as the upstream maintainer, agrees with that...07:32
alkisgAn example is that tlp causes shutdown issues, disables WOL, and has a lot of other side effects, and we can't remove it...07:32
DocSluggoHello, all. I'm a self-admitted newb who's barely scratching the surface of Linux computing.07:41
flexiondotorgalkisg I think updating TLP would be sensisble.07:48
alkisgflexiondotorg: ok, I'll file an SRU to update ubuntu-mate-desktop, ty07:49
flexiondotorgalkisg No need to update ubuntu-mate-desktop07:49
alkisgflexiondotorg: the issue is that ubuntu-mate-desktop depends on tlp07:49
flexiondotorgIf you land the changes to TLP, that don't require a MTA.07:49
alkisgAnd we can't remove tlp07:49
alkisgWe don't have to change anything at  all in tlp itself07:50
flexiondotorgalkisg Rightm you're talking about 16.04.07:50
alkisgWe don't know or care about how to fix it07:50
alkisgYup07:50
flexiondotorgWhat is thew issue with TLP in 16.04?07:50
alkisgIt sometimes blocks systemd shutdown07:50
alkisgIt disables wake on lan07:50
alkisgAnd some other side effects which I didn't bother to look into07:50
flexiondotorgI dropped it's inclusion in 16.10 (I think) because it now requires an MTA.07:50
alkisgThe point is, there are some packages that 16.04 users don't want, but can't remove because of ubuntu-mate-desktop dependencies07:51
flexiondotorgalkisg OK, feel free to submit the SRU for ubuntu-mate-desktop.07:51
alkisgThese were fixed in later versions07:51
alkisgSo I just want to backport those...07:51
alkisgCool, ty07:51
ouroumovtlp also has caused issues with USB-connected devices in 16.0407:51
ouroumovSuch as printers.07:51
alkisgTo be clear, the SRU isn't only about TLP, but about lowering ubuntu-mate-welcome to recommends instead of depends, and backporting other similar changes in ubuntu-mate-desktop too07:54
ouroumovflexiondotorg, while we're talking SRUs, the guys who submitted this patch has been waiting on a 200$ bounty for a while: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/164191207:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1641912 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Please backport two recent-manager patches" [Critical,Confirmed]07:59
Sunil_176047hi08:05
ouroumovHello Sunil_17604708:05
Sunil_176047some body help me to install flash player for ubuntu...08:07
ouroumovSunil_176047, you can do that from the software boutique.08:07
ouroumovMake sure the software boutique itself is up to date.08:07
Sunil_176047ok let me try08:07
ouroumov"Set to retrieve the latest software listings" should be checked.08:08
ouroumovYou will find Flash under the "Internet" Section08:08
commandGood morning all08:45
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Guest29342Good morning all08:46
ouroumovHello command / Guest2934208:47
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X-Setihello, I have some issues between upgrading from Ubuntu-Mate 16.04 to U..Mate17.04. I know of the issues between gtk2/gtk3 and the headache around the community but with the theme I have/ had on ubuntu16.04 I have lost settings where windows now have the wrong colors (some are just white with unreliable text menus). gtk2/3 info around the web seems to a little outdated??12:52
sixwheeledbeast^From what I recall 17.04 is the first update with all packages moved over to GTK3. Can you explain your issue a little better or link some screenshots?13:49
X-Setiscreenshots. ok just a sec13:56
X-Setitrying to take a srceenshot with a dropdown menu open.14:03
X-Setiuploading screenshots. I had taken them from my original machine that still runs 16.04 and now 17.0414:13
X-SetiSorry for the time taken, slow uploading14:20
X-Setihttps://s25.postimg.org/d2d8j021r/ubuntumate16.04.png14:20
X-Setihttps://s25.postimg.org/nb5potq3j/ubuntumate17.04.png14:20
X-Setinow I mananged to change the top status bar to green from white in the .theme/ and .gtk settings but betyond that nothing else seems to want to be changed.14:21
X-Setigetting things to even look like it was on 16.04 is hard.. GTK2 -> GTK3 a lot of unsupported values. no theme colors in desktop [change desktop]14:27
Headzuphello14:28
sixwheeledbeast^so it's the background of the drop menus not coloured grey on white?14:29
X-Setipretty much or the ability to change this14:31
sixwheeledbeast^Is this a downloaded theme or your own?14:32
X-Setithings coloured as white bg with text the same color.14:32
X-Setimy own.14:33
X-Setii used to make alot of old gtk2 themes.14:33
X-Setinow im back to find and now relearn some stuff.14:33
X-Setiubuntumate16.04 is what its meant to be. I can live without the green menus or faded green bar. but see the windows at least.14:34
X-Setiseems they have updated GTK3 without releasing  much in the lay for  people to make themes.14:35
X-Setidefault standard themes work out the box. so im looking at the configs to see whats new.14:36
sixwheeledbeast^Is this the same with drop downs in all programs including the default packages14:41
X-Setignomemenu dropdowns are ok.14:42
X-Setiits progran windows. check which14:43
X-SetiVLC is fine.  maybe its own classes.14:43
X-SetiHexchat. isnt14:44
sixwheeledbeast^I am thinking some programs are GTK2 and some GTK3 or the like?14:44
X-Setiliboffice is fine. its hit and miss with different programs14:44
X-Setibrb14:52
X-Setifilezilla, hexchat. and some others.14:57
X-Setiill uninstall them for now and write to them about my findings.14:58
X-SetiAudacious. dolphine emu.. finding others now.15:02
X-Setiworked it out. pretty simple.15:15
X-SetiGTK2 mostly is being overridden. any programs still using GTK2 is being ignored15:15
daniel__Hola15:32
daniel__Buenas Tardes15:32
DarkPsydeLordhola15:47
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