[00:31] <vickerswt> this is complicated
[00:33] <vickerswt> the thing is that I can go online and i'll get a bunch of different ipv4 addresses but none are the actual addresses of my pi. The "address" of my pi is I believe to be a mixture of my ip and mac address for better security. Is there a way to actually figure out my pi's ip without actually messing with the router because I'm not in the mood to have a whole new setup in another part of the house via lan. I prefer wireless
[00:33] <vickerswt> I need to be able to see through the ipv6 address
[01:55] <bray90820> So I am on ubuntu mate in a raspberry pi B+ and I am getting 100% cpu usage with the web browser
[01:58] <KTrad> sounds about right
[01:59] <bray90820> Just moving the mouse gives me 25%
[02:00] <bray90820> Any way to reduce it?
[02:03] <bray90820> I was hoping to be able to use the thing as a headless music server
[02:04] <bray90820> KTrad:
[05:00] <bray90820> Would a pi zero be good enough to run ubuntu mate for a headless music server?
[06:43] <Guest74106> hi guest
[07:32] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: hi, in recent Ubuntu versions, ubuntu-mate-desktop doesn't depend on e.g. tlp at all, and only recommends e.g. ubuntu-welcome etc. I'd like to file an SRU for 16.04, to lower some of the dependencies to recommendations or remove them completely. I can do the paperwork as long as you, as the upstream maintainer, agrees with that...
[07:32] <alkisg> An example is that tlp causes shutdown issues, disables WOL, and has a lot of other side effects, and we can't remove it...
[07:41] <DocSluggo> Hello, all. I'm a self-admitted newb who's barely scratching the surface of Linux computing.
[07:48] <flexiondotorg> alkisg I think updating TLP would be sensisble.
[07:49] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: ok, I'll file an SRU to update ubuntu-mate-desktop, ty
[07:49] <flexiondotorg> alkisg No need to update ubuntu-mate-desktop
[07:49] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: the issue is that ubuntu-mate-desktop depends on tlp
[07:49] <flexiondotorg> If you land the changes to TLP, that don't require a MTA.
[07:49] <alkisg> And we can't remove tlp
[07:50] <alkisg> We don't have to change anything at  all in tlp itself
[07:50] <flexiondotorg> alkisg Rightm you're talking about 16.04.
[07:50] <alkisg> We don't know or care about how to fix it
[07:50] <alkisg> Yup
[07:50] <flexiondotorg> What is thew issue with TLP in 16.04?
[07:50] <alkisg> It sometimes blocks systemd shutdown
[07:50] <alkisg> It disables wake on lan
[07:50] <alkisg> And some other side effects which I didn't bother to look into
[07:50] <flexiondotorg> I dropped it's inclusion in 16.10 (I think) because it now requires an MTA.
[07:51] <alkisg> The point is, there are some packages that 16.04 users don't want, but can't remove because of ubuntu-mate-desktop dependencies
[07:51] <flexiondotorg> alkisg OK, feel free to submit the SRU for ubuntu-mate-desktop.
[07:51] <alkisg> These were fixed in later versions
[07:51] <alkisg> So I just want to backport those...
[07:51] <alkisg> Cool, ty
[07:51] <ouroumov> tlp also has caused issues with USB-connected devices in 16.04
[07:51] <ouroumov> Such as printers.
[07:54] <alkisg> To be clear, the SRU isn't only about TLP, but about lowering ubuntu-mate-welcome to recommends instead of depends, and backporting other similar changes in ubuntu-mate-desktop too
[07:59] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, while we're talking SRUs, the guys who submitted this patch has been waiting on a 200$ bounty for a while: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/1641912
[08:05] <Sunil_176047> hi
[08:05] <ouroumov> Hello Sunil_176047
[08:07] <Sunil_176047> some body help me to install flash player for ubuntu...
[08:07] <ouroumov> Sunil_176047, you can do that from the software boutique.
[08:07] <ouroumov> Make sure the software boutique itself is up to date.
[08:07] <Sunil_176047> ok let me try
[08:08] <ouroumov> "Set to retrieve the latest software listings" should be checked.
[08:08] <ouroumov> You will find Flash under the "Internet" Section
[08:45] <command> Good morning all
[08:46] <Guest29342> Good morning all
[08:47] <ouroumov> Hello command / Guest29342
[12:52] <X-Seti> hello, I have some issues between upgrading from Ubuntu-Mate 16.04 to U..Mate17.04. I know of the issues between gtk2/gtk3 and the headache around the community but with the theme I have/ had on ubuntu16.04 I have lost settings where windows now have the wrong colors (some are just white with unreliable text menus). gtk2/3 info around the web seems to a little outdated??
[13:49] <sixwheeledbeast^> From what I recall 17.04 is the first update with all packages moved over to GTK3. Can you explain your issue a little better or link some screenshots?
[13:56] <X-Seti> screenshots. ok just a sec
[14:03] <X-Seti> trying to take a srceenshot with a dropdown menu open.
[14:13] <X-Seti> uploading screenshots. I had taken them from my original machine that still runs 16.04 and now 17.04
[14:20] <X-Seti> Sorry for the time taken, slow uploading
[14:20] <X-Seti> https://s25.postimg.org/d2d8j021r/ubuntumate16.04.png
[14:20] <X-Seti> https://s25.postimg.org/nb5potq3j/ubuntumate17.04.png
[14:21] <X-Seti> now I mananged to change the top status bar to green from white in the .theme/ and .gtk settings but betyond that nothing else seems to want to be changed.
[14:27] <X-Seti> getting things to even look like it was on 16.04 is hard.. GTK2 -> GTK3 a lot of unsupported values. no theme colors in desktop [change desktop]
[14:28] <Headzup> hello
[14:29] <sixwheeledbeast^> so it's the background of the drop menus not coloured grey on white?
[14:31] <X-Seti> pretty much or the ability to change this
[14:32] <sixwheeledbeast^> Is this a downloaded theme or your own?
[14:32] <X-Seti> things coloured as white bg with text the same color.
[14:33] <X-Seti> my own.
[14:33] <X-Seti> i used to make alot of old gtk2 themes.
[14:33] <X-Seti> now im back to find and now relearn some stuff.
[14:34] <X-Seti> ubuntumate16.04 is what its meant to be. I can live without the green menus or faded green bar. but see the windows at least.
[14:35] <X-Seti> seems they have updated GTK3 without releasing  much in the lay for  people to make themes.
[14:36] <X-Seti> default standard themes work out the box. so im looking at the configs to see whats new.
[14:41] <sixwheeledbeast^> Is this the same with drop downs in all programs including the default packages
[14:42] <X-Seti> gnomemenu dropdowns are ok.
[14:43] <X-Seti> its progran windows. check which
[14:43] <X-Seti> VLC is fine.  maybe its own classes.
[14:44] <X-Seti> Hexchat. isnt
[14:44] <sixwheeledbeast^> I am thinking some programs are GTK2 and some GTK3 or the like?
[14:44] <X-Seti> liboffice is fine. its hit and miss with different programs
[14:52] <X-Seti> brb
[14:57] <X-Seti> filezilla, hexchat. and some others.
[14:58] <X-Seti> ill uninstall them for now and write to them about my findings.
[15:02] <X-Seti> Audacious. dolphine emu.. finding others now.
[15:15] <X-Seti> worked it out. pretty simple.
[15:15] <X-Seti> GTK2 mostly is being overridden. any programs still using GTK2 is being ignored
[15:32] <daniel__> Hola
[15:32] <daniel__> Buenas Tardes
[15:47] <DarkPsydeLord> hola