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NinjaKirbyHello, I have an issue with a new graphics card giving me no monitor signal. How should I rectify this? I'm upgrading from an ancient PCI-E Nvidia GeForce 6200LE(!) to a somewhat more modern GT730.07:04
NinjaKirbyMy old card still works, so if I need to gain visual access to make software changes prior to the upgrade I can do so.07:05
NinjaKirbyIt's worth noting, that the 6200LE is so old that although technically supported by the official NVidia drivers, it always caused graphical chaos so my Lubuntu setup is still only set to use Neavue drivers or whatever they're called.07:06
NinjaKirbyOh wait, I think the problem is more serious. Computers are so annoying.07:11
NinjaKirbyAh ha, I think it might have been a dust problem, which I'm now choking on.07:16
NinjaKirbyThank god for that, it was dust. The GT730 is running the display. Thanks for listening to my codswallop.07:20
tsimonq2NinjaKirby: :)07:23
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NinjaKirbyIt's a little un-nerving how long it takes to switch drivers... considering all the hassle I had changing them 2 months ago trying to get my 6200LE to work.07:34
NinjaKirbyI'm using the GUI for this, but perhaps I should have learned to CLI it, because I'd be nice to see what the hell it's doing in the background.07:34
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onlahow do I set default keyboard layout with dconf or something? I moved to using i3, and I could set my layout with setxkbpmap, but if I reconnect my keyboard, the system sets my default keyboard from somewhere I don't know. The default keyboard text string is found in /home/onla/.config/dconf/user but that is a binary file08:02
onlaon lubuntu 14.0408:02
onlaoh, /etc/default/keyboard file has the stuff probably08:08
NinjaKirbyhttps://pastebin.com/S0ue6frU How screwed am I just from trying to change GPU drivers. I try to install something using Apt-Get, DPKG has a problem, I follow it's advice, it crashes at the last line after a few minutes of thinking. Is it safe to just switch to another set of drivers?08:16
NinjaKirbyI've got about 40 minutes to hang around, I hope someone can offer some insight, thanks.408:21
NinjaKirbyAs usual, I know ya'll aren't getting paid, or even necessarily at your computers right now - I do realise :)08:22
NinjaKirbyI was hesitant to try and rectify it myself because this is a server for a new business... but, I googled the Symlink issue and it's a problem from this year's February-onwards that is haunting NVidia users. So I used the solution I found, and DPKG auto-config has progressed much further.08:49
NinjaKirbyAnd Apt-Get is working again, yey.08:51
NelafanjiKepiskoGod sake, power cut. Okay, thanks for listening to more codswallop, laters.09:02
EleanorEllisIn archive-manager, Which compression method will compress a folder and su-folders down to least size for jpeg photos and mp4 videos?09:21
gra231can i ask12:28
gra231should I say, "is there anyone here?" or "are there anyone here?"12:30
gra231should I ask12:31
gra231tsimonq12:39
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TheDeetsterhaving a problem here with a triple monitor display on a desktop. I have onboard graphics with VGA, a PCIe DVI card and a USB to VGA adapter. was just running it all together with out issue on windows, but decided to format and slap lubuntu on it after playing around with a live USB on my laptop.16:06
TheDeetsterSystem Information is only showing "Monitor 0" for the onboard adapter16:06
TheDeetsterattempting a proprietary driver change and a reboot16:15
knock-So Lubuntu is switching to LXQT...Will I still be able to download Lubuntu with LXDE after the switch ? or should I install Ubuntu then manually install the LXDE  ?16:21
wxlknock-: it is not clear that we are going to only offer one or the other16:21
wxlknock-: but there are still lxde metapackages16:22
knock-Thanks, It would be great if you added an o-ption to select between LXQT and LXDE...16:23
wxlwe've had lots of discussion, but i'm thinking there will actually be two images. all of the apps are not necessarily interchangable between the two16:24
wxlfor example, firefox is not qt compatible, so it can't be used on lxqt without pulling in all the qt libraries16:24
wxlvice versa with qupzilla and gtk16:24
wxltechnically you could have both, it's just that it's not necessarily as lightweight as possible16:26
TheDeetsterwell that did absolutely nothing.16:32
TheDeetsterSystem display on the onboard and PCIe when booting16:32
TheDeetstershuts down the PCIe once lubuntu launches.16:32
TheDeetsterunplugged the on board display, PCIe still shuts down at launch16:34
TheDeetsterUSB display adapter, no where to be found16:34
TheDeetsteranyone got any ideas here?17:01
TheDeetstertried to switch over the x.org nouvaeu display, now instead of power save mode on the PCIe display, i get white dots all over it17:37
Shawn|i7-720QMhowdy19:59
Shawn|i7-720QMI'm trying to boot lubuntu 17.04 on my ML350 G4P server, and its getting NMI watchdog soft lockup reports19:59
Shawn|i7-720QMcontinuously20:00
wxlmaybe it's the server questioning your decision to put a desktop OS on a server XE20:00
Shawn|i7-720QMisn't lubuntu fit for a server?20:01
wxlin general, a server usually has a non-GUI installed on it20:01
wxli mean technically, you can put anything on it you want, but it's pretty rare that anyone bothers20:02
wxlservers are meant to run services rather than providing a desktop experience20:02
wxlthey're usually configured hardware wise to ensure uptime, which isn't always a desktop requirement20:03
Shawn|i7-720QMwell a gui makes server management a lot easier20:04
wxlmost services provide a GUI tool through the web20:04
wxland "easier" is questionable20:04
wxli'd rather script things20:04
Shawn|i7-720QMwell idk hwo to use iLo20:04
Shawn|i7-720QM*how20:04
wxlfor example, CUPS is a printer service. you can run a central server for it. just go to IP:631 and there's your GUI20:05
wxlotherwise you end up using a bunch of resources on your server providing a display server, which not only opens up potential security issues, but also wastes precious resources for your services20:06
wxlregarding your issue, it could be all sorts of things, but the most likely relate to either bad hardware or bad BIOS settings20:06
Shawn|i7-720QMhttps://s25.postimg.org/m2ahbu39b/IMGP2394.jpg20:07
Shawn|i7-720QMthe server has 10GB atm, its not slouch20:08
Shawn|i7-720QM*no20:08
wxlif you run a web server, you can gobble up all kinds of ram20:08
Shawn|i7-720QMI'm just trying to get lubuntu on there, I understand halfway how to use it20:10
wxlyes, and i'm telling you you MOST likely are having some sort of hardware issue20:11
wxlit could potentially be a driver issue, but i doubt it. usually servers don't use fancy drivers20:11
wxlyou can try adding nmi_watchdog=0 as a kernel option20:11
wxlthis discussion provides a lot of interesting ideas, and the OP solved their problem by replacing the power supply https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220521120:14
Shawn|i7-720QMthe redundant power supplies have no problem20:15
wxlhow do you know?20:16
wxlthat discussion also offers options on how to be sure20:17
wxlthere's also one other concern20:18
wxldid you check the hashes of the iso and check the media upon boot?20:19
Shawn|i7-720QMshould I swap the redundant power supplies with my spare server?20:23
wxlit's start with the hashes/media check first20:23
Shawn|i7-720QMokay20:23
wxlthen i would suggest a swap if you KNOW that other server boots fine20:23
Shawn|i7-720QMwell, both redundants have green lights on20:23
Shawn|i7-720QMwell I just swapped over from the 3.4Ghz Xeon ML350 G4P to the 3.6Ghz Xeon ML350 G4P20:24
Shawn|i7-720QMboth netburst servers20:24
wxlchecking what `sensors` reports would be helpful20:24
wxlit MAY be a kernel issue. i think that's unlikely, but it could be misreporting the voltages20:25
Shawn|i7-720QMwhere do I check that?20:25
wxlread that link i sent you20:25
Shawn|i7-720QMthe 3.6GHz machine is faster than the 3.4Ghz machine at Memtestx86, flew through it without errors, I was was working out ram issues with a temporary fix20:26
Shawn|i7-720QMI will check integrity now20:27
Shawn|i7-720QMI guess lubuntu may have a problem this server can't get through21:07
wxloh jesus lennart22:22
wxloops wrong channel O_O22:22
wxlbut22:22
wxlhttps://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/727490/d161e315ff0775c1/22:22
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