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| jamesh | robert_ancell: thanks for the snapd/polkit patch. I had found your old pull request, and reused some of the ideas and code in my own pull request | 03:55 |
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| jamesh | robert_ancell: Here's the result if you're interested: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3581 | 03:55 |
| robert_ancell | jamesh, ah good, I wasn't sure if the old PR still existed | 03:55 |
| jamesh | robert_ancell: I used godbus instead of libsystemd, so hopefully that makes things a little more palatable | 03:57 |
| robert_ancell | jamesh, last time there were issues raised that godbus wasn't reliable enough. I never worked out what the issues were; my conclusion was the team had been burnt by it in the past and were wary. | 03:59 |
| robert_ancell | I feel like I've been along this path before :) I hope you are more successful! | 03:59 |
| robert_ancell | I like how you just did /v2/login. Now we have snapd-login-service in the wild this feels like a logical step that should make sense. | 04:01 |
| jamesh | yep. And if we can get this through, it is a much smaller battle to say polkit auth should be treated like root access for "snap install" | 04:07 |
| jamesh | but on its own, it hasn't removed the need for macaroons. | 04:09 |
| jamesh | so hopefully the discussions won't go down that related rabbit hole | 04:09 |
| robert_ancell | Small steps. | 04:11 |
| robert_ancell | jamesh, Something I was concerned about is the Polkit failure case. In this case it will just fall through and use the existing behaviour. I think that's safe because a) polkit is assumed to be an essential service if it is installed and b) the fallback is safe | 04:13 |
| robert_ancell | On an Ubuntu Core system I guess you risk seeing errors about Polkit not existing, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. | 04:14 |
| jamesh | Right. I'm just logging the error and continuing, which is essentially failing closed. | 04:14 |
| jamesh | if polkitd isn't available, you'll just need to be root to use that action | 04:15 |
| jamesh | which is the status quo | 04:15 |
| robert_ancell | yeah | 04:15 |
| robert_ancell | The snap design seems to be big on highly predictable behaviour, so I hope they're OK with graceful degradation. | 04:16 |
| robert_ancell | I figure it can't be compile time due to the way snapd is shipped, though it could be a config option of some sort if that was desirable. | 04:17 |
| jamesh | I think they'd take the ability to share the same snapd binary between core and classic over stricter error handling | 04:17 |
| robert_ancell | You'd think so :) | 04:17 |
| jamesh | another possible improvement for this would be to add pkttyagent support to the snap client | 04:18 |
| jamesh | that would give sudo-less access outside of a graphical session | 04:18 |
| robert_ancell | I think that every time I use systemctl | 04:18 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:09 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:37 |
| jamesh | hi oSoMoN, didrocks | 06:37 |
| didrocks | hey jamesh | 06:38 |
| didrocks | how are you? | 06:38 |
| jamesh | good. I got my snapd/polkit branch working, so I'm hoping we can keep pushing that forward. | 06:39 |
| jamesh | It implements only enough to let you run "snap login" without sudo, which is a start. | 06:40 |
| didrocks | yeah, reading that on the forum :) | 06:42 |
| didrocks | let's see what answers we'll get | 06:42 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:19 |
| seb128 | hey oSoMoN jamesh | 07:19 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning seb128 jamesh oSoMoN didrocks | 07:19 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg, how are you? | 07:20 |
| didrocks | hey flexiondotorg, how are you? | 07:20 |
| flexiondotorg | Very well thanks. Had a long weekend away. Sunshine and boats :-) | 07:20 |
| didrocks | ok, indicator-messages should now be off the iso with those changes | 07:21 |
| didrocks | remaining is indicator-applications | 07:21 |
| didrocks | onboard doesn't have a good upgrade story | 07:21 |
| didrocks | (basically, no systray/indicator on G-S) | 07:21 |
| didrocks | I can patch it easily so that the "auto-detect" shows up the systray | 07:22 |
| didrocks | look for a "onboard" extension | 07:22 |
| didrocks | and only show systray if no extension is installed | 07:22 |
| didrocks | (standard upgrade) | 07:22 |
| didrocks | that way, I can dowgrade the recommends on indicator-application to recommends | 07:22 |
| didrocks | shouldn't be hard | 07:22 |
| didrocks | BUT | 07:22 |
| didrocks | there is update-notifier as well which deps on it | 07:22 |
| didrocks | (I meant "downgrade indicator-application to suggests") | 07:23 |
| didrocks | and on update-notifier, as it's C, it's harder to make a runtime dep detection… | 07:23 |
| seb128 | it's not because they use libappindicator that they need a renderer for it | 07:23 |
| seb128 | we should enable https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/615/appindicator-support/ | 07:24 |
| didrocks | does it use the same dbusmenu stack? | 07:24 |
| didrocks | to communicate | 07:25 |
| seb128 | ? | 07:25 |
| seb128 | I think that protocol is common to unity & kde | 07:25 |
| seb128 | I don't think it's dbusmenu specific? | 07:25 |
| didrocks | libappindicator pull dbusmenu to communicate over dbus (I thought we switched to the gtk/glib menu at some point, though?) | 07:25 |
| didrocks | and dbusmenu is pulling part of the libunity stack | 07:26 |
| seb128 | could be, but that's orthogonal to the renderer/indicator-application | 07:26 |
| seb128 | or are you talking about getting ride of dbusmenu from the iso now? | 07:26 |
| seb128 | my point was that we could have clients using libappindicator still | 07:26 |
| didrocks | I'm talking about getting ride of most of the unity stack/dee and such dbusmenu from the iso | 07:26 |
| seb128 | and the rendering in the shell done by that extension ^ | 07:26 |
| seb128 | k | 07:26 |
| seb128 | I though you were talking about indicator-application | 07:27 |
| didrocks | sorry, as a source package | 07:27 |
| didrocks | wasn't clear enough | 07:27 |
| seb128 | well indicator-application is just the applet rendering appindicator icons right? | 07:28 |
| seb128 | I mean it's a one binary source and that can go to universe easily | 07:28 |
| didrocks | correct, but the source package is libindicator, which provides that libs, which has this long trail of deps | 07:28 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application | 07:29 |
| seb128 | I was talking about | 07:29 |
| seb128 | let me look at the libs | 07:29 |
| didrocks | oh that, yeah | 07:29 |
| didrocks | sorry, read the results the wrong way, not enough coffee :p | 07:29 |
| seb128 | np :-) | 07:29 |
| didrocks | and this libindicator vs libappindicator | 07:29 |
| didrocks | grrr, afer all those years :p | 07:29 |
| seb128 | ahah | 07:29 |
| didrocks | so yeah, talking about libappindicator | 07:30 |
| seb128 | libappindicator depends on libindicator and libdbusmenu | 07:30 |
| didrocks | yeah | 07:30 |
| seb128 | it's another of those tradeoff discussion | 07:31 |
| seb128 | libappindicator is used by a bunch of packages in main | 07:31 |
| seb128 | so either we drop its use and regress a bit more the unity session | 07:31 |
| seb128 | or we keep them building with it | 07:31 |
| seb128 | which is low space on the iso but more unmaintained code we carry on the iso | 07:32 |
| didrocks | yeah, how can we come to a conclusion on this? Would be great to have a discussion with involved parts | 07:32 |
| seb128 | though the code is mostly stable and low maintainance | 07:32 |
| didrocks | (and patches) | 07:32 |
| seb128 | but still technical debt | 07:32 |
| didrocks | I don't really care about the space vs the patch/diff maintainance on apps | 07:32 |
| seb128 | step 1 is to list it on the wiki | 07:33 |
| seb128 | one we think the wiki list is complete then we can have the discussion | 07:33 |
| seb128 | with interested parties (including Mark?), on what we do from unity7 | 07:34 |
| didrocks | yeah, I guess that, with the list of packages on the iso at least as example of regression vs perf | 07:34 |
| didrocks | yep | 07:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: maybe we'll be more productive doing a HO (like tomorrow), together and go to the list? | 07:34 |
| seb128 | tomorrow sounds good, +1 | 07:34 |
| didrocks | let's do that :) | 07:35 |
| seb128 | cool | 07:36 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:57 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:58 |
| willcooke | hi didrocks! Is part 2 of your tutorial out soon? Want to reshare, but I think it would be good for them to have just a little more | 07:58 |
| willcooke | in other news... I built a PPA! (thanks kenvandine for the help) | 07:58 |
| didrocks | willcooke: I can publish it in a few minutes, let me do a last typo reread :p | 07:59 |
| willcooke | didrocks, woot | 08:00 |
| duflu | willcooke, seems one debhelper regressed 7 hours ago. I just grabbed a proposed fix so in theory can test your branch proper now | 08:00 |
| willcooke | duflu, afternoon! | 08:00 |
| duflu | willcooke, and happy Wednesday | 08:00 |
| willcooke | duflu, I dont think we'll merge it yet, spoke to s_eb128 about it yesterday. I think speaking to upstream PAudio for a "real" fix is the right thing to do atm | 08:01 |
| Laney | yo | 08:01 |
| willcooke | duflu, I'll talk about it some more in the meeting | 08:01 |
| willcooke | morning Laney | 08:01 |
| duflu | willcooke, OK nevermind. BTW I noticed a new feature highlighted in bold here. Seems to be very timely - http://www.android-x86.org/releases/releasenote-7-1-rc1 | 08:02 |
| willcooke | duflu, but if you're interested: https://launchpad.net/~willcooke/+archive/ubuntu/gdm-nobluetoothaudio | 08:02 |
| duflu | willcooke, ta but I was trying to do the proper thing and test the branch directly | 08:02 |
| willcooke | duflu, ah right. Thx | 08:03 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney, how is u.k today? | 08:03 |
| willcooke | rainy | 08:03 |
| willcooke | which is great | 08:03 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:03 |
| seb128 | wonder if it's raining as much for you that it is here | 08:03 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:03 |
| seb128 | :p | 08:03 |
| willcooke | My grass might turn green again | 08:04 |
| willcooke | ooooooh! Software update notifications on the lock screen, I like that | 08:04 |
| duflu | Welcome to the world of upstream shell collaboration :) | 08:05 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 08:06 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 08:07 |
| Laney | not raining here, we had enough yesterday for a week ... | 08:08 |
| Laney | how are you? | 08:08 |
| didrocks | willcooke: just git push, should be up in few seconds | 08:09 |
| willcooke | didrocks, merci | 08:09 |
| willcooke | didrocks, can I suggest a link from pt 1 to pt 2 and vice versa? | 08:09 |
| didrocks | ah, I have done pt2 to pt1 | 08:10 |
| didrocks | I can add from pt1 to pt2, one sec | 08:10 |
| duflu | Umm, I no longer have a mouse on the login screen (but Gnome Shell does). Is that a feature? | 08:12 |
| didrocks | willcooke: link pushed | 08:13 |
| willcooke | thx didrocks | 08:13 |
| didrocks | yw | 08:13 |
| willcooke | duflu, hum. Bluetooth mouse? | 08:13 |
| duflu | No, USB. It's visibly powered but no cursor in gdm | 08:13 |
| duflu | OTOH I am testing a custom gdm | 08:14 |
| willcooke | duflu, testing here | 08:14 |
| duflu | But Bluetooth audio is fixed :) | 08:15 |
| duflu | Forget it, unless the problem occurs in official builds | 08:15 |
| willcooke | duflu, yeah, mouse works here. | 08:21 |
| duflu | Cosmic rays | 08:22 |
| duflu | Moving on... | 08:22 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:22 |
| * willcooke goes to try the auto connect fixes | 08:22 | |
| willcooke | "switch-on-connect" | 08:22 |
| willcooke | duflu, bah, no good. Could be this particular speaker though | 08:27 |
| duflu | BT and USB hotplugging works great for me now. The USB part drove me crazy for years and I guess BT is a big deal for others | 08:28 |
| duflu | Strangely also fixed a separate USB DAC problem... somehow | 08:28 |
| willcooke | hehe | 08:30 |
| willcooke | so, toggling the speaker on and off in the control panel seems to work well, just powering off the speaker causes a bit of a lock up and eventually switches back to the internal speaker (probably fair enough, since there isn't a handshake, it's just OFFFFFF) | 08:32 |
| willcooke | powering the speaker back on doesnt re-connect automatically | 08:33 |
| willcooke | I'll test with another speaker, since this one is super-cheapo | 08:33 |
| Laney | Setting up gdm3 (3.24.2-1ubuntu5) ... | 08:33 |
| Laney | dpkg-query: package 'ubuntu-session' is not installed and no information is available | 08:33 |
| duflu | willcooke, Yeah bouncing bluetooth doesn't seem to be robust after a few attempts. But it's seemingly getting better. I think this is as good as it's ever been | 08:33 |
| Laney | /o\ | 08:33 |
| willcooke | duflu, it's a clear improvement in my book | 08:34 |
| willcooke | found another missing icon | 08:34 |
| willcooke | duflu, new speaker - a Sony one - works perfectly!!! | 08:36 |
| duflu | I can also say "It's a Sony" | 08:36 |
| andyrock | willcooke: by what time you need the demo ready? End of day or before? | 08:37 |
| willcooke | andyrock, EOD is fine for me | 08:37 |
| andyrock | and good morning | 08:37 |
| willcooke | hi! | 08:37 |
| andyrock | kk thanks | 08:37 |
| andyrock | :) | 08:37 |
| willcooke | duflu, lulz.. this cheapo one... "protable": http://imgur.com/a/9WUE0 | 08:38 |
| willcooke | didrocks, soo.. rebuilding those blender files for the help movies, I left it runinng for 3 days and it never finished. Can't tell if it's broken, or if it just takes a long time to run. Do we upload the videos as binaries. or are they built in LP? | 08:44 |
| didrocks | willcooke: right now, they are all pre-built | 08:47 |
| didrocks | distributed with the source | 08:47 |
| willcooke | didrocks, oki, that's probably good. Do you have a machine in the cloud somewhere that I could set to work on them? | 08:47 |
| willcooke | I'm not sure I can stand the fan noise any more :D | 08:47 |
| didrocks | willcooke: I don't, maybe you can try canonistack? | 08:48 |
| willcooke | didrocks, nod | 08:48 |
| didrocks | willcooke: jibel: FYI, the gdm3 simple patch is uploaded to favor X11 sessions over wayland when no default is set | 08:51 |
| didrocks | (still in proposed) | 08:51 |
| willcooke | didrocks, nice one, thanks! You got to the bottom of it then? Just gdm prefers Wayland? | 08:51 |
| didrocks | willcooke: yep, when there has been no session selected, which still makes me wondering for "your" case | 08:52 |
| didrocks | as you did select "ubuntu" on purpose and not "ubuntu on wayland" | 08:52 |
| willcooke | didrocks, ah right. I'll do another fresh install (maybe tomorrow) and try again | 08:55 |
| jibel | didrocks, okay, I'll try it. I'll install the package at the end of a fresh installation and before first login | 09:01 |
| didrocks | jibel: this is gdm3 3.24.2-1ubuntu6 | 09:02 |
| ricotz | didrocks, hi, added thunderbird-gnome-support to Breaks of ubuntu-session? | 09:18 |
| didrocks | ricotz: urgh, was probably not enough coffee, wanted recommends | 09:22 |
| * didrocks checks | 09:22 | |
| didrocks | ricotz: correct, more coffee was needed. Thanks for spotting it! uploaded. | 09:24 |
| ricotz | didrocks, it was hard to miss here due suggested package removals | 09:25 |
| didrocks | ricotz: yeah, I guess ;) | 09:26 |
| didrocks | (I've already removed it here to test in a G-S session) | 09:26 |
| duflu | willcooke, oops. Your fix works permanently as the new file doesn't uninstall | 09:39 |
| willcooke | duflu, heh, yay | 09:39 |
| willcooke | duflu, I've made a mess of that branch now by hacking the changelog, so if we decide to use it I'll make a nice clean one. | 09:39 |
| duflu | willcooke, it's fine. bzr doesn't make history very discoverable after a merge | 09:40 |
| willcooke | so should I consider putting something in the postrm file as well? | 09:41 |
| duflu | willcooke, probably? Although I thought debs had better config file management...? | 09:42 |
| jamesh | "bzr log -n0" will show all your sins | 09:42 |
| duflu | Yes, but my point was nobody looks there too much | 09:43 |
| jamesh | (assuming you consider the process of software development to be a sin) | 09:43 |
| duflu | sinners use spaces :) | 09:44 |
| Laney | willcooke: The gdm user's home directory is already removed in the postrm | 09:45 |
| Laney | (when purging) | 09:45 |
| willcooke | Laney, the file lives in /var/lib/gdm3/.config/pulse | 09:45 |
| willcooke | (or something like that) | 09:45 |
| Laney | I know, that's the home directory | 09:46 |
| didrocks | /var/lib/gdm3 is gdm user's home | 09:46 |
| willcooke | oh | 09:46 |
| didrocks | as Laney pointed :) | 09:46 |
| willcooke | the moral of this story is that I will ask someone who knows what they are doing to help me if we decide to actually go with this workaround | 09:47 |
| duflu | willcooke, I'm looking at the upstream docs for how to do it. Gimme a sec | 09:47 |
| willcooke | Laney, btw - we just had our Bluetooth meeting. Decision is that seb128 will speak to upstream and see if we can get a proper fix in place. If that doesn't go anywere we can reconsider the proposed work-around and do it properly | 09:48 |
| Laney | k, that sounds right to me | 09:49 |
| duflu | OK, that didn't work. But anyway willcooke there is https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/PerfectSetup/ | 09:49 |
| willcooke | blimey, I remember reading that page yeeeears ago | 09:50 |
| willcooke | is ESD still a thing? | 09:51 |
| willcooke | oh, no, it says about replacing esd with pulse | 09:51 |
| duflu | Hmm, yes. If you kill and restart the gdm pulseaudio then the user's own one gets priority and works | 09:52 |
| duflu | Or maybe that's a race | 09:52 |
| willcooke | I think thats not going to work perfectly. a11y would be unavailble at the lock screen then | 09:53 |
| willcooke | or, if you killed the users pa on lock, then music would stop playing when you locked the machine | 09:53 |
| duflu | willcooke, did you say you saw the mention of the problem on Arch wiki? | 09:56 |
| willcooke | duflu, yeah. This debian wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp | 09:56 |
| willcooke | then links to this arch wiki: | 09:56 |
| willcooke | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:Bluetooth_headset#GDMs_pulseaudio_instance_captures_bluetooth_headset | 09:57 |
| duflu | I wonder if there is an a11y problem at all. Before today Pulse would default to the PC speaker or whatever is plugged in to that. I doubt a11y users could have been using BT in GDM if they wanted to | 09:59 |
| duflu | Although I forgot about static priorities and don't remember testing booting with the device on previously | 10:00 |
| willcooke | AIUI, the Pulse settings are system wide, so.. if you logged in, paired the headset/speaker, logged out again - then it /might/ try and use it at greeter - so maybe it's possible? | 10:00 |
| willcooke | quite a lot of guess work there ^ :) | 10:01 |
| duflu | willcooke, no I don't think we use that mode and it's mildly not recommended https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/SystemWide/ | 10:01 |
| duflu | That should solve it tho | 10:02 |
| duflu | Anyway, I feel terrible. Time to try this new medication... | 10:04 |
| ricotz | didrocks, better check gnome-session again, the changelog mentions unity-session and you touched ubuntu-session | 10:13 |
| * didrocks *sighs*, ok no more upload apart from that fix today :/ | 10:15 | |
| jamesh | willcooke: I'm still not sure whether we'll be able to convince Gustavo to go fully macaroon-less for local snapd auth, but I've got a working first stab at polkit integreation for snapd: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3581 | 10:15 |
| ricotz | didrocks, having things reviewed helps ;) | 10:16 |
| ricotz | ... before pushing it | 10:16 |
| didrocks | ricotz: yeah, especially when doing too many things at the same time :p | 10:16 |
| jamesh | this essentially just lets snapd do what we use snapd-login-service for | 10:16 |
| didrocks | well, at least it's a minor typo, not breaking people compared to other issues ;) | 10:16 |
| didrocks | (gnome-session has too many binary packages, easy to scroll up and be in a different one) | 10:17 |
| * didrocks did a debdiff + bzr diff this time | 10:20 | |
| willcooke | jamesh, sorry was otp | 10:31 |
| willcooke | reading | 10:31 |
| willcooke | jamesh, ah nice one! | 10:32 |
| willcooke | What's the wayland tag for bugs again? Is it just "wayland"? I had a feeling there might have been a different one | 10:45 |
| seb128 | "wayland" | 10:45 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 | 10:45 |
| seb128 | yw | 10:45 |
| Laney | jamesh: hope you manage to get buy in for that work | 10:49 |
| Laney | & hi! | 10:49 |
| jamesh | Laney: I do too. It sounds like there is a desire to tighten up the API security a bit, so hopefully they'll see this as part of it. | 10:51 |
| * Laney nods | 11:05 | |
| jibel | willcooke, it's wayland but apport adds the tag wayland-session if wayland is running | 11:51 |
| jibel | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=wayland-session | 11:53 |
| jibel | seb128, what do you think about using wayland-session instead of wayland for the official tag | 12:04 |
| jibel | ? | 12:04 |
| jibel | and merge both lists | 12:04 |
| seb128 | either way is fine to me, just pick whatever you think is easier | 12:05 |
| seb128 | but maybe check with jbicha as well | 12:05 |
| jibel | I'd keep wayland-session, easier to change the official tag than updating and releasing apport | 12:08 |
| jibel | jbicha, what do you think? ^ | 12:08 |
| jbicha | I think it's good to have 2 different tags | 12:12 |
| jbicha | one tag is because the user happens to be running wayland but doesn't mean the problem is specific to wayland | 12:13 |
| jibel | so someone has to review the bugs tagged wayland-session and add the wayland tag if the problem is specific to wayland | 12:15 |
| jbicha | yes | 12:16 |
| jibel | jbicha, why not use 1 tag for wayland eg wayland-session and remove the ayland-session tag if it is not specific to wayland? | 12:17 |
| jibel | I don't see any benefit in having 2 lists for wayland | 12:17 |
| jbicha | it's like the 'amd64' tag; it's useful to know what architecture someone is running but it's rare for the bug to be because they're using amd64 | 12:18 |
| jbicha | very few bugs are because of Wayland but we still want to know whether the user is running Wayland | 12:18 |
| jbicha | it's only because Wayland is not the default yet that the number of wayland-session bugs is so small, and maybe someone triaged some of those to remove the tag too (but that's needless busywork) | 12:20 |
| seb128 | jibel, one list doesn't let you make the difference between triaged bugs which are confirmed to be wayland specific (=bugs to look at for us) and the stack of incoming reports from users on the wayland session (need triaging) | 12:23 |
| jibel | seb128, that's fine as long as someone triage them. Several bugs tagged wayland-session seem wayland specific and are not tagged wayland. These bugs are useful to help with the decision to go or not go with wayland | 12:24 |
| jibel | didrocks, just to confirm, with latest gdm3, autologin, the session is running ubuntu-x11 | 12:28 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 12:30 |
| seb128 | jibel, fair point, we should triage them regularly | 12:35 |
| willcooke | Can anyone work out where the heck this icon is coming from? http://imgur.com/a/r5CLa | 12:49 |
| jbicha | seb128: is it worth proposing your evolution change upstream? and remember to do it for e-d-s too :) | 12:49 |
| willcooke | I'm pretty sure it's called "audio-headset" and I've looked at all the ones on disk, and none of them match | 12:49 |
| jbicha | willcooke: it's probably from adwaita-icon-theme | 12:52 |
| jbicha | I opened up gtk3-icon-browser and looked for it, then I ran apt-file search audio-headset | 12:53 |
| jibel | willcooke, looks like it's from adwaita | 12:54 |
| jibel | willcooke, /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/24x24/devices/audio-headset.png | 12:54 |
| willcooke | thanks! | 12:55 |
| willcooke | so, related to that, you can see on that screenshot the missing icon - IMO a direct copy / symlink to that headset one is good enough. So do I need to try and fix that in Adwaita, or can we bodge it at an Ubuntu level? | 12:56 |
| willcooke | Could I add that to, say, Humanity | 12:57 |
| jbicha | willcooke: please check if installing adwaita-icon-theme-full makes a difference | 12:58 |
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| willcooke | jbicha, will do, and thanks for the point to the icon browser, very useful indeed | 13:00 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I guess I can try to upstream them, technically what upŝtream does is a bit better but in practice it shouldn't make a difference, I'm just unsure "we have tools parsing that file which are not smart enough to understand variables" is a good justification | 13:01 |
| Laney | didrocks: kenvandine: I made a change to the gdm3.config - want to review it? https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu/revision/421 | 13:19 |
| * Laney goes to lunch | 13:20 | |
| kenvandine | Laney, we had wanted to do the check based on ubuntu-session being installed, not for all users of gdm3 | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | based on our original discussion | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | but i guess if ubuntu-session isn't installed, users won't have their session set to ubuntu | 13:22 |
| willcooke | jbicha, full icon theme doesn't help, and I dont see it in icon browser | 13:24 |
| willcooke | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696402 | 13:24 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 696402 in general "Missing Headphones icon in sound settings" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 13:24 |
| willcooke | makes mention of the headset one, and says its in gnome-icon-theme (comment #7) | 13:24 |
| willcooke | grr,ignore that. I'm looking for handsfree | 13:25 |
| willcooke | which is says is to come | 13:25 |
| didrocks | Laney: +1 on the change. It covers all cases we discussed together and I like it better than previous implementation. My only nitpick is that you revert if people reselected "lightdm" since last week as you compare with your own version, but I guess this is fine :) For backport, maybe compare with 3.24.2-1ubuntu7~ rather? (if people backported it to xenial), minor nitpick :p | 13:28 |
| seb128 | willcooke, what's the issue with that headset icon? doesn't represent the device well? | 13:33 |
| seb128 | willcooke, also you are investigating the missing icon for handsfree? | 13:33 |
| willcooke | rather the handsfree icon is missing. I think it could just be a copy of the handsfree one. I can't find a "real" one anywhere. | 13:33 |
| willcooke | *headset | 13:33 |
| willcooke | handsfree could be a copy of headset | 13:33 |
| popey | jibel: yo, got time for a hangout this afternoon about desktop testing? | 13:34 |
| willcooke | (seems two words begining with the same letter is more than my brain can handle) | 13:34 |
| seb128 | willcooke, that's sort of what was suggested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1130137 | 13:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1130137 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Better sound settings icons" [Low,Confirmed] | 13:35 |
| willcooke | wfm | 13:35 |
| jibel | popey, sure, when? | 13:36 |
| jibel | popey, just add something to my calendar | 13:36 |
| willcooke | seb128, so would that "fix" be in Ubuntu? | 13:36 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ideally upstream but we could add the symlink to our package meanwhile | 13:36 |
| willcooke | seb128, ack, thx | 13:38 |
| popey | jibel: kk | 13:38 |
| Laney | kenvandine: yeah, but I don't think that can work properly if the check isn't in ubuntu-session itself | 13:54 |
| Laney | didrocks: yeh, but I was worried about previous versions not working properly | 13:56 |
| Laney | not sure about the ~, what's the idea there? | 13:56 |
| didrocks | Laney: like for a lot of upgrade story, if someone backport the same version to a ppa, like ~ppa1, we don't want to remigrate after this | 13:56 |
| kenvandine | Laney, ok, +1 from me then | 13:57 |
| didrocks | but again, that's in the case people backport the stack (to xenial), not sure if you care, I don't that much | 13:57 |
| Laney | nod, I think that makes sense | 14:01 |
| jibel | how can I disable the snap plugin of gnome-software? | 14:30 |
| Laney | delete it | 14:30 |
| jibel | :) ok | 14:31 |
| jbicha | jibel: if you're using Artful, you can look up GNOME Software in GNOME Software and turn off Snappy support | 14:33 |
| jbicha | or just uninstall gnome-software-plugin-snap | 14:33 |
| Laney | ... | 14:34 |
| didrocks | Laney: btw, the gnome software icon isn't the ubuntu one (I didn't check why yet), did you notice? | 14:34 |
| didrocks | IIRC, there was an onlyshowin=ubuntu | 14:35 |
| jbicha | it shows up as Ubuntu Software in 'Ubuntu' but not in 'Ubuntu on Wayland' | 14:36 |
| didrocks | the icon isn't Ubuntu Software though | 14:37 |
| didrocks | which was the point made in the trello card | 14:37 |
| Laney | actually I see both | 14:37 |
| didrocks | oh, I don't | 14:37 |
| didrocks | only one entry "ubuntu-software" | 14:38 |
| jibel | jbicha, ah thanks. Sounds better. | 14:38 |
| didrocks | but with upstream icon | 14:38 |
| Laney | k, well it'll only work in a session called ubuntu | 14:38 |
| didrocks | as told: | 14:38 |
| didrocks | $ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION | 14:38 |
| didrocks | ubuntu | 14:38 |
| Laney | k | 14:38 |
| jibel | the snap plugin seems to have a huge negative impact on performance of gnome-software | 14:38 |
| Laney | if you want to debug it that would be welcome | 14:39 |
| didrocks | yep, will do :) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | jibel, on what actions? startup? search? | 14:51 |
| didrocks | willcooke: how do you import bug reports to trello automatically? | 14:52 |
| didrocks | I don't see a tag | 14:52 |
| willcooke | didrocks, add "desktop-trello-import" tag and then tell me the project name | 14:52 |
| willcooke | package name | 14:52 |
| willcooke | whatever it's called | 14:53 |
| willcooke | the thing | 14:53 |
| willcooke | :) | 14:53 |
| didrocks | willcooke: the things are: gdm3 gsettings-desktop-schemas gnome-software | 14:54 |
| didrocks | :) | 14:54 |
| willcooke | didrocks, same bug for all of them? | 14:54 |
| willcooke | looks like gnome-software was the right one | 14:54 |
| willcooke | https://trello.com/c/nUBUEkyG/188-bug1703849-gnome-software-doesnt-show-ubuntu-icon-in-the-ubuntu-session | 14:55 |
| didrocks | willcooke: no, it's 3 different bugs I wanted to attach | 14:55 |
| willcooke | didrocks, that will appear as 3 different cards | 14:55 |
| willcooke | is that ok? | 14:55 |
| didrocks | willcooke: as I expect, they are 3 different things :) | 14:55 |
| didrocks | willcooke: yes | 14:55 |
| willcooke | kk | 14:55 |
| didrocks | thx! | 14:56 |
| jibel | seb128, search for sure, maybe startup but I don't have any data and startup is already really slow just with debs because it refreshes the package cache | 14:56 |
| willcooke | didrocks, https://trello.com/c/fX8lP0VF/189-bug1703326-lock-screen-wallpaper-is-a-plain-blue-screen | 14:56 |
| didrocks | willcooke: doesn't do assignement matching, I'm soooooooooooooooooooo disappointed :) | 14:57 |
| willcooke | didrocks, hm, the gdm3 one isnt being found, got a bug number?> | 14:57 |
| willcooke | didrocks, its on my todo list | 14:57 |
| willcooke | :) | 14:57 |
| didrocks | willcooke: it's fix released, maybe you don't import them? (it was just for tracking) | 14:57 |
| willcooke | ah | 14:57 |
| willcooke | oki, | 14:57 |
| willcooke | --force to the rescue | 14:57 |
| didrocks | ahah :) | 14:57 |
| willcooke | yay! | 14:58 |
| willcooke | https://trello.com/c/1wEWXt9p/190-bug1703601-use-ubuntu-x11-as-default-session | 14:58 |
| didrocks | merci beaucoup ! | 14:58 |
| willcooke | bien sur | 14:58 |
| * willcooke found the kids easters eggs in the cupboard. Now they are mine. | 17:15 | |
| willcooke | nom | 17:15 |
| sarnold | is it your fault they didn't find them just because they were hidden on the top shelf way in the back? they had their chance | 17:20 |
| willcooke | I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about | 17:22 |
| willcooke | :D | 17:22 |
| willcooke | but you're right, out of sight out of mind. | 17:23 |
| jbicha | fossfreedom: Budgie doesn't actually need the 'mutter' binary package, does it? (it doesn't have that dependency on Debian) | 17:23 |
| fossfreedom | jbicha - hmm - no it shouldn't need it | 17:29 |
| fossfreedom | done a test on the live ISO - removed mutter logged out and logged back in successfully | 17:29 |
| jbicha | fossfreedom: does today's live iso boot to Budgie or to GNOME Shell? | 17:30 |
| fossfreedom | gnome-shell is still installed. | 17:30 |
| fossfreedom | I note - there is a mistake in our seeds | 17:31 |
| fossfreedom | we have mutter listed in the desktop seed | 17:32 |
| jbicha | see my comment on LP: #1703685 | 17:32 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1703685 in mutter (Ubuntu) "mutter incorrectly recommends gnome-session and thus GNOME Shell defaults in Ubuntu Budgie daily" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703685 | 17:32 |
| fossfreedom | interesting. | 17:34 |
| fossfreedom | ok - I still need to remove mutter from our desktop seed though | 17:35 |
| jbicha | we could try having metacity just not recommend gnome-session then | 17:35 |
| jbicha | Budgie looks like the only Flavor that uses metacity for ubiquity, MATE & Kylin use marco and Xubuntu uses xfwm4 | 17:38 |
| sarnold | polo | 17:39 |
| jbicha | I wonder what would be needed for Budgie to handle the wm for ubiquity? | 17:39 |
| fossfreedom | the window manager is basically mutter as you know - budgie-wm is a "plugin" to mutter | 17:43 |
| jbicha | maybe you could look at what ubiquity does for gnome-shell and try doing the same for budgie? | 17:47 |
| Laney | ah man, my gdm3 ist falsch | 17:51 |
| Laney | or is it | 17:53 |
| Laney | root 22177 0.0 0.0 4496 764 pts/2 S+ 18:49 0:00 | \_ /bin/sh /tmp/lightdm.config.cQpVrt configure 1.22.0-0ubuntu2.1 | 17:53 |
| Laney | guess lightdm's .config has to be neutered somehow | 17:55 |
| Laney | kenvandine: ^- if you have any ideas, otherwise I'll look tomorrow | 17:56 |
| fossfreedom | jbicha - in the control file for ubiquity gnome-shell is the alternate - so not really sure what more I should be looking at | 17:56 |
| Laney | that's: start lxd zesty container, install ubuntu-desktop, make sure an AS user file exists, do-release-upgrade -d, see prompt apparently coming from lightdm | 17:56 |
| * Laney waves | 17:57 | |
| kenvandine | Laney, no ideas | 17:57 |
| willcooke | night Laney | 17:57 |
| Laney | kenvandine: me neither right now, would have to think about it a bit ;-) | 17:57 |
| Laney | tara | 17:57 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: hey, fyi, I just added snap decls for your uploads | 17:57 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: curious, do this run with wayland if install with --devmode? | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, haven't tried with wayland | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | just strict | 17:58 |
| kenvandine | with X | 17:58 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: I'm dangerously close to picking up the wayland interface work and found that the existing snaps in the store would not work with wayland if installed in devmode | 17:59 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: is this something that the desktop team is looking to do? (getting these apps to work with wayland) | 17:59 |
| jdstrand | iirc, we want wayland by default for 18.04 | 17:59 |
| fossfreedom | jbicha - I presume gnome-shell as a dependency for gnome-session is a recent change for artful - I don't see a recommendation or dependency in previous versions of gnome-session | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | not sure if I misheard of if that has changed | 18:00 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, i haven't been in any discussions around the snaps with wayland | 18:00 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, but clearly we want them to work | 18:00 |
| jbicha | fossfreedom: in bin/ubiquity-dm, it already apparently tries to run budgie-wm, so just try adding budgie to the alternate depends list | 18:00 |
| jbicha | jdstrand: I assume having snaps work in Wayland would be a high priority even if we don't use Wayland by default | 18:04 |
| jbicha | wayland by default is currently undecided | 18:04 |
| jdstrand | jbicha: I see, well, I'm just asking cause I may pick up the snappy interface work this week and may need some assistance with a working devmode snap | 18:06 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, that's exciting | 18:11 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand, ping me if you need anything | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | if i can't help i can redirect as needed | 18:12 |
| willcooke | how can I find the build logs for: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sound-theme-freedesktop | 18:23 |
| willcooke | I want to know if it's using dh_link. | 18:23 |
| willcooke | Do all packages just do that by default, or do I need to call it in the rules? | 18:23 |
| sarnold | click on the 0.8-1 then i386 then buildlog | 18:23 |
| willcooke | ahah! Hiding in plain sight, thanks sarnold | 18:27 |
| sarnold | you're welcome :) | 18:28 |
| immu | why do you end up in such a situation when its few weeks from release date and you find out that stuff its not working willcooke | 18:30 |
| willcooke | immu, care to give an example? could be a millon reasons | 18:31 |
| fossfreedom | jbicha - budgie-wm isn't a binary so I can't add as an alternate | 18:32 |
| fossfreedom | jbicha can metacity downgrade gnome-session to a suggests rather than a recommendation ? | 18:33 |
| jbicha | fossfreedom: add whatever package provides budgie-wm as an alternate depends | 18:35 |
| fossfreedom | jbicha - ok - budgie-wm is provided by "budgie-core" - how is looking after ubiquity pull requests at the moment ? | 18:40 |
| fossfreedom | who | 18:40 |
| jbicha | probably cypherm_ox | 18:46 |
| immu | willcooke, wayland to include it or not, seeing the huge number of ubuntu users so that effect would be quite risky and big | 19:05 |
| willcooke | indeed, and that's why we're giving it a lot of careful consideration now | 19:06 |
| fossfreedom | thanks jbicha for the info | 19:10 |
| fossfreedom | cyphermox, when you have an opportunity - please can you review my merge request for ubiquity on behalf of Ubuntu Budgie? TIA https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntubudgie-dev/ubiquity/ubuntu-budgie-ubiquity/+merge/327323 | 19:14 |
| jbicha | fossfreedom: as for metacity, I'm asking Debian whether it should recommend gnome-session-flashback or just drop that recommends completely | 19:20 |
| willcooke | jbicha, any clues as to what this missing icon might be called, or suggestions for how I can find out? http://imgur.com/a/L6zpg | 19:41 |
| willcooke | I think it might be a in control center itself | 19:43 |
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| willcooke | yeah, found it | 20:21 |
| * willcooke patches gnome-control-center | 20:21 | |
| willcooke | I'm tryng to build gnome-control-center now | 20:30 |
| willcooke | but it's complaing about: | 20:30 |
| willcooke | No package 'libsystemd-login' found | 20:30 |
| willcooke | but it's installed, and the dev packages | 20:30 |
| seb128 | willcooke, dpkg -l | grep libsystemd-login-dev | 20:32 |
| willcooke | nothing | 20:32 |
| willcooke | also, hi seb128! | 20:32 |
| seb128 | so it's not installed it seems | 20:32 |
| seb128 | hey :p | 20:32 |
| willcooke | oh, apt-file says my cache is empty - perhaps apt borked | 20:34 |
| willcooke | updating | 20:34 |
| seb128 | that's on artful I guess? | 20:35 |
| willcooke | seb128, yeah | 20:36 |
| willcooke | gah, updating apt is running at 120kB a sec. slowwwwww | 20:36 |
| willcooke | seb128, package name is libsystemd-login-dev right? | 20:40 |
| seb128 | it was in xenial, let me look at artful | 20:43 |
| seb128 | can you pastebin the exact error? | 20:44 |
| seb128 | that lib seems deprecated | 20:44 |
| seb128 | it should try to look for it, weird | 20:45 |
| seb128 | or do you build an old g-c-c? | 20:46 |
| jbicha | willcooke: how are you building it? with jhbuild? sbuild? regular ./configure & make ? | 20:46 |
| willcooke | jbicha, ./autogen.sh and then make I guess, not got that far yet. | 20:47 |
| willcooke | seb128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25077567/ | 20:47 |
| jbicha | sudo apt build-dep gnome-control-center | 20:48 |
| jbicha | try that then ^ | 20:48 |
| willcooke | jbicha, yeah did that first. | 20:49 |
| willcooke | ahh | 20:49 |
| willcooke | maybe I branched the wrong thing | 20:50 |
| willcooke | I used this: https://code.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center | 20:50 |
| jbicha | I think LP has problems with git repos that use submodules (g-c-c uses submodules) | 20:53 |
| seb128 | willcooke, https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome-control-center/trunk | 20:59 |
| seb128 | willcooke, most recent commit is from 2012-11-26 | 20:59 |
| seb128 | so yeah, not a good idea :p | 20:59 |
| seb128 | willcooke, better take the source package from artful or git from upstream | 20:59 |
| willcooke | seb128, as in apt-get source? | 21:03 |
| seb128 | willcooke, if you are on artful yes | 21:03 |
| seb128 | or debcheckout gnome-control-center | 21:04 |
| seb128 | the package is maintained in a bzr with the debian dir only | 21:04 |
| seb128 | which is recombined with the tarball using bzr-builddeb | 21:04 |
| seb128 | but that might be too much packaging for one day :p | 21:04 |
| seb128 | +info | 21:04 |
| willcooke | and then how do I propose a branch? Do I just make a diff and stick it on a bug? | 21:04 |
| seb128 | basically | 21:05 |
| seb128 | bzr get lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-control-center/ubuntu | 21:05 |
| seb128 | cd ubuntu | 21:05 |
| seb128 | bzr bd-do | 21:05 |
| seb128 | do your changes but that needs to be in the debian dir | 21:05 |
| seb128 | e.g if you change the upstream source then you need to create a patch using quilt | 21:05 |
| jbicha | willcooke: are you asking how to submit it to Ubuntu or to GNOME? | 21:06 |
| seb128 | or just cp the diff in ubuntu/debian/patches from the checkout and edit the serie by hand | 21:06 |
| willcooke | jbicha, it'll be a hack, so prolly just ubuntu | 21:06 |
| willcooke | seb128, oki, I'll test my patch works first, and then call it a day, and try again tomorrow :) thanks! | 21:06 |
| seb128 | yw | 21:07 |
| willcooke | gah. After all that, the patch I was considering is exactly what they've already done in g-c-c, so actually it's just a case of more sym links :DDD | 21:10 |
| willcooke | *done in the new g-c-c | 21:10 |
| willcooke | so this can be fixed with links | 21:10 |
| seb128 | nice | 21:10 |
| seb128 | jbicha, btw not sure if you saw my comment about e-d-s/evo earlier, but I'm not feeling confortable upstreaming that change, it's an hack to workaround our tools not being smart enough, they shouldn't have to care about that | 21:11 |
| willcooke | seb128, http://imgur.com/a/L6zpg | 21:14 |
| willcooke | and also, instead of playing white noise you get a proper sample | 21:14 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sound-theme-freedesktop/+bug/1703946 | 21:15 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1703946 in sound-theme-freedesktop (Ubuntu) "Dedicated mono test sound is unavailable" [Undecided,New] | 21:15 |
| jbicha | seb128: yes but upstream might not mind the change so maybe I'll propose it for you | 21:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, if you want feel free | 21:17 |
| willcooke | morning robert_ancell | 21:22 |
| willcooke | :) | 21:22 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hi! | 21:23 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, are you in a US timezone? | 21:23 |
| willcooke | that's a sure sign that it's time to log off | 21:23 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, be fixing bugs | 21:23 |
| willcooke | got a bit carried away | 21:23 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 21:23 |
| * robert_ancell checks if all my bugs are now fixed by willcooke | 21:23 | |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, they are not :) Probably doing more harm than good tbh | 21:23 |
| willcooke | fix -> hack | 21:24 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hey | 21:24 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I was going to ask you if there's any more state of the art way to make desktop snaps. Trying to snap simple-scan for the nth time and get this interface editor into a snap | 21:24 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, check with kenvandine, he's pushing some example to the store this week | 21:25 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, ok, thanks | 21:25 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/quadrapassel/snap/view/head:/snapcraft.yaml is one he pushed today | 21:26 |
| robert_ancell | cool, that's just what I need | 21:27 |
| seb128 | those are getting as complex (if not more) than debian/ packaging | 21:27 |
| seb128 | next we get snaphelper to simply the yaml! | 21:27 |
| robert_ancell | haha | 21:27 |
| robert_ancell | I guess this relies on build-packages exactly matching the gnome-platform snap to work? | 21:28 |
| seb128 | yes | 21:28 |
| robert_ancell | which distro do you build in then? | 21:28 |
| seb128 | which means building on xenial+backport ppa | 21:28 |
| robert_ancell | aha | 21:28 |
| seb128 | which launchpad let you set up | 21:29 |
| seb128 | so if you auto build in launchpad it's easy | 21:29 |
| robert_ancell | "easy" | 21:29 |
| seb128 | it's a combo to pick the ppa | 21:29 |
| seb128 | not hard | 21:29 |
| seb128 | but yeah, we need to do better there | 21:30 |
| seb128 | seems the recommended way from the snapcraft team is to tar the prime of the platform snap after build | 21:30 |
| seb128 | and publish that as file somewhere | 21:30 |
| seb128 | and use that as a part to build snaps then | 21:30 |
| robert_ancell | So no futher thoughts on -dev snaps then | 21:33 |
| seb128 | who feels like arguing about that with the snappy team? ;-) | 21:34 |
| seb128 | that's probably a discussion we should have again at some point | 21:35 |
| seb128 | unsure that's one to have now though | 21:35 |
| seb128 | we might have other items we want to push forward before that | 21:35 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, it's lower priority for sure | 21:36 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I'm having trouble getting SRUs pushed forward, any advise who to annoy for that? | 21:36 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, in your tz try RAOF? | 21:37 |
| seb128 | or bdmurray | 21:37 |
| seb128 | or maybe infinity would work | 21:38 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, who manages the unapproved queue? | 21:38 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+members#active | 21:38 |
| * robert_ancell thinks the correct terminology is probably to push SRUs _backwards_ | 21:39 | |
| robert_ancell | Because I think that's stopping them showing up on the SRU dashboard | 21:39 |
| seb128 | btw that polkit locale issue is weird | 21:40 |
| seb128 | why does it pick a random lang? | 21:40 |
| seb128 | just curious how it ends up doing that | 21:40 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, the .policy file doesn't have a message field without a xml:lang set on it | 21:41 |
| robert_ancell | So it just seems to use the last / first one | 21:41 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 21:41 |
| seb128 | you should perhaps SRU that fix alone | 21:41 |
| robert_ancell | It is surely the same amount of work? | 21:41 |
| seb128 | if the snapd-glib updates are too complex to find a SRU team member to review htem | 21:41 |
| seb128 | well ^ | 21:41 |
| robert_ancell | And there's issues that flexiondotorg found with snapd-glib that are fixed in newer versions | 21:41 |
| seb128 | I'm not saying that there is no value at trying to SRU the update | 21:42 |
| seb128 | just that it might be more difficult to find a reviewer and take time | 21:42 |
| seb128 | but yeah, if you can nag somebody to let that in even better | 21:42 |
| jbicha | I'm annoyed that gnome-software/zesty has yet to clear phased-updates so LP: #1573408 still affects people :( | 21:43 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1573408 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Xenial) "GNOME Software does not install third-party .deb packages" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1573408 | 21:43 |
| seb128 | what is blocking it? | 21:44 |
| jbicha | I think right now, it's another unapproved SRU to fix LP: #1702122 | 21:45 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1702122 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Zesty) "/usr/bin/gnome-software:11:load_icon:gs_plugin_refine_app:gs_plugin_loader_run_refine_app:gs_plugin_loader_run_refine_internal:gs_plugin_loader_run_refine" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1702122 | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | Is there a phased updates page somewhere? | 21:45 |
| jbicha | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | Yeah, I fixed that bug, also stuck in unapproved queue | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, ta | 21:45 |
| sarnold | who gets alerted when the phaser is set to 0% ? | 21:48 |
| robert_ancell | sarnold, I get an email as the uploader | 21:49 |
| jbicha | the uploader gets a "Possible Regression" email | 21:49 |
| sarnold | well, that's something. some of those have been stuck at 0% for a loooong time ;/ | 21:50 |
| willcooke | right, that really is it for tonight | 21:59 |
| willcooke | ta ta | 21:59 |
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