[11:54] <guest253> hi
[11:55] <guest253> how do u like xubuntu?
[12:11] <guest253> hi
[12:33] <guest253> hola Zeioth
[12:38] <knome> guest253, you're asking the xubuntu channel if we like xubuntu? guess what the answer is?
[12:40] <knome> i guess he guessed "no" :P
[17:18] <zeeblefritz> anyone there that can help with "no new releases found" when attempting to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[17:18] <knome> zeeblefritz, just to confirm, what does "lsb_release -a" say?
[17:20] <zeeblefritz> ubuntu 14.04.5 lts
[17:21] <zeeblefritz> do you need exact? or is that good
[17:21] <knome> that's fine
[17:22] <zeeblefritz> also says no LSB modules available
[17:22] <knome> i guess you have also updated all packages to their latest versions?
[17:22] <zeeblefritz> over and over again
[17:22] <knome> also, what about in settings manager -> software & updates -> tab updates, what's the setting for notifying of new versions?
[17:23] <zeeblefritz> any new version
[17:23] <knome> mhm, try setting that to long-term support, then try upgrading again
[17:25] <zeeblefritz> same
[17:25] <knome> interesting
[17:26] <knome> what does "sudo do-release-upgrade" say?
[17:28] <zeeblefritz> okay so without the -d or -c it seems to be downloading a new update
[17:29] <zeeblefritz> a week ago though it appeared to be working then gave me an error I can't recall
[17:29] <zeeblefritz> maybe it will work now
[17:29] <knome> if it doesn't, take note what kind of errors or warnings you get
[17:30] <knome> (and you already know this, but always take backups before upgrading)
[17:31] <zeeblefritz> yeah this machine is a backup hence why it was so far behind.
[17:31] <zeeblefritz> would the lack of incremental updates cause something like this?
[17:33] <knome> in some cases not being up-to-date with updates *when you upgrade* can make a difference, but if you updated packages before upgrading, there shouldn't be any issues
[17:34] <zeeblefritz> okay just wondering. the machine was in storage and I tried to use it as a dvd player on my tv but decided not to output audio from hdmi.
[17:34] <zeeblefritz> there appeared to be an issue with hdmi audio with 14.04 so i tried to upgrade then was met with this
[17:35] <knome> right
[17:35] <knome> sounds weird, but hey, that's hardware...
[17:36] <zeeblefritz> i just hope I can get hdmi audio without reverting back to windows
[17:37] <knome> if it is of any condolence, i'm doing hdmi audio constantly with xubuntu
[17:37] <knome> so there's no ultimate blocker that completely stops you from doing it
[17:37] <zeeblefritz> I feel like I have done it with this computer before but maybe not
[17:38] <zeeblefritz> if I change internet connections mid download for faster speed will it cause any problems you know of?
[17:44] <zeeblefritz> appears not
[17:45] <zeeblefritz> :)
[18:02] <knome> :)
[18:07] <luissss> Hello, good day everyone i like to ask for help
[18:07] <knome> luissss, no need to ask - just ask
[18:09] <luissss> am running Xubuntu 16.10 on my pc, and i want to install antix alongside my Xubuntu for experimentation, so i am runing xubuntu 16.04 on a usb live iso, I run gparted to make a partition and i got this message> The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes. Why is happening_ Can some one help me pliease_
[18:29] <luissss> am running Xubuntu 16.10 on my pc, and i want to install antix alongside my Xubuntu for experimentation, so i am runing xubuntu 16.04 on a usb live iso, I run gparted to make a partition and i got this message: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes. Why is happening_ Can some one help me pliease?
[18:49] <luissss> someone help please
[18:50] <diogenes_> luissss, call 911
[18:51] <knome> luissss, did you try searching for answers online?
[18:52] <luissss> yes
[18:52] <luissss> and the answers i found are about formating my hd and i do not want to erase my Xubuntu on my pc am trying to make some free space to install the other os
[18:53] <diogenes_> luissss, what question?
[18:53] <luissss> am running Xubuntu 16.10 on my pc, and i want to install antix alongside my Xubuntu for experimentation, so i am runing xubuntu 16.04 on a usb live iso, I run gparted to make a partition and i got this message> The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes. Why is happening_ Can some one help me pliease
[18:54] <diogenes_> luissss, I've never had issues with partitioning so, can't help there, sorry
[18:55] <luissss> txs
[18:55] <luissss> that is why am asking for help But seems like no one knows
[18:55] <knome> luissss, also, no need to repeat; the majority of people have already seen the question
[18:56] <knome> and yes, it's possible nobody knows - or that the solution is to reformat
[18:56] <diogenes_> but I did have some success running antix on a 14 yo laptop with a little bit more than 100 MB memory
[18:56] <luissss> toke let me refresh
[18:56] <luissss> ok*
[18:57] <diogenes_> luissss, why don't you want to format?
[18:59] <luissss> i want to partition my hd so i can have some room to install antix, but when trying to do so, i can resize my hd then i proceed to partition and it only allows me to create ext4 as a primary partion and swap also as a primary partition the options extended en logical are gray so i can't pick any of those only primary partitions
[19:00] <luissss> And the reason for me not wanting to format my hd is because i have Xubuntu 16.10 as my os, antix is for experimentation only
[19:01] <luissss> any way i just do not know why am i having problems to partiotioning the logical and extended options shouldn't be gray
[19:01] <diogenes_> you can try to convert it to GPT if you find a way to convert without data loss, then try to make partitions again
[19:02] <luissss> ok
[19:02] <diogenes_> because it's MBR I assume
[19:03] <luissss> have a nice day
[19:03] <diogenes_> thx u2
[19:10] <CrazyTux> hello, can I install SAP ERP on Xubuntu 16.04.2?
[19:12] <knome> tbh i'd ask SAP
[19:13] <CrazyTux> ok
[19:14] <CrazyTux> just wanted to know whether it can be installed on Xubuntu.
[19:15] <CrazyTux> or any Ubuntu based distro or Mint.
[19:15] <knome> i have no idea whether they support linux to start with
[19:15] <knome> if yes, then the answer is most likely yes...
[19:16] <CrazyTux> the officially supported linux distros are Redhat, SUSE.
[19:16] <CrazyTux> and Oracle linux
[19:17] <knome> then you might be able to run it on xubuntu, but of course without official support
[19:17] <CrazyTux> but, I want to install SAP ERP for educational purposes.
[19:17] <CrazyTux> even without official support is ok.
[19:17] <knome> for educational purposes i suggest looking for ideas how to do that yourself :P
[19:17] <CrazyTux> ok
[19:18] <knome> i'm pretty sure they don't offer source packages, so either you will have an executable that either works or doesn't work directly on xubuntu
[19:18] <knome> or a package that works with some other pakcage management system
[19:18] <knome> in which case you can try to convert it to apt
[19:19] <CrazyTux> since Redhat and Suse are officially supported, could SAP be installed on OpenSuse or Centos?
[19:19] <knome> you should likely ask that question on an opensuse or centos support outlet... but probably
[19:20] <CrazyTux> ok
[19:32] <CrazyTux> in what way is Xubuntu  more suitable than Debian?
[19:35] <knome> uhm, suitable for what?
[19:40] <CrazyTux> for newbies
[19:40] <CrazyTux> for general home and office use.
[19:41] <CrazyTux> how is xubuntu as compared to debian 9 xfce?
[19:42] <knome> they are different. :P
[19:42] <knome> the most notable difference is likely configuration and looks
[19:43] <CrazyTux> is debian faster than xubuntu?
[19:43] <knome> i have no benchmarks.
[19:44] <CrazyTux> ok
[19:47] <CrazyTux> but, is debian newbie friendly?
[19:47] <CrazyTux> Debian 9?
[19:47] <knome> this is the xubuntu channel, not debian...
[19:50] <CrazyTux> ok