[07:24] <spoonless[m]1> hello, is ubuntu associated with the african ubuntu philosophy?
[07:32] <andyrock> good morning!
[07:47] <willcooke> morning all
[07:47] <willcooke> duflu, thanks for testing that mono sound.  Looking in to it now
[07:47] <duflu> willcooke, I'm not sure if I am hearing the correct OGA distorted by a low quality profile :)
[07:47] <duflu> ... or just a noise noise
[07:48] <duflu> Morning willcooke, too
[07:48] <willcooke> duflu, when it works, its very obviously works
[07:48] <willcooke> Looks like the symlink got set up correctly
[07:48] <duflu> In other news, I found the code path in clutter-gst causing corruption. But that's still no proof that a proper fix goes in there or some other plugin :S
[07:49] <willcooke> heh
[07:49] <willcooke> This rabbit hole has become a rabbit warren
[07:51] <duflu> willcooke, Ironically I am looking at a corrupted Big Buck Bunny warren each time
[07:51] <willcooke> :DD lol
[07:53] <willcooke> Oh wow, this is annoying.. you go to the menu at top right, and turn off bluetooth from there, then it just vanishes from the menu and you have to go in to control center to turn it back on again
[07:54] <duflu> That's annoying. And worse to turn ON bluetooth requires you turn OFF airplane mode. So toggling either way is to set something OFF
[07:54] <willcooke> :|
[07:57] <willcooke> ok, something odd going on here.  On the Artful machine that I installed a while ago and keep upgrading, the sound is the old white noise - on the one that I installed on Monday - it's working
[08:00] <duflu> I vaguely recall seeing mention of this in a bug
[08:00] <duflu> A bluez or pulseaudio bug
[08:01] <willcooke> gonna try a daily and upgrade that
[08:03] <Laney> morning
[08:03] <willcooke> hi Laney
[08:12] <Laney> hey willcooke, happy friday
[08:12] <willcooke> \o/
[08:12] <Laney> I think we've got a French free day today
[08:12] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:13] <willcooke> We do indeed
[08:13] <willcooke> It's good, except one of my bug fixes is only partially working, which is annoying and confusing in equal measure
[08:15] <Laney> ah, now you're engineering
[08:18] <willcooke> :)
[08:32] <willcooke> I think I need a debug build of gnome-control-center
[08:32] <willcooke> or at least, a hacked up one with some print statements in it
[08:33] <willcooke> but I am confused by launchpad
[08:33] <willcooke> what should I branch locally to build it?
[08:34] <willcooke> this one? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center
[08:35] <willcooke> hm, no vcs
[08:35] <willcooke> so download the source and debdiff then I think
[08:41] <willcooke> k, downloaded source, edited c, debuild, fail, do the source commit thing, try again, working, I think
[08:52] <willcooke> duflu, installed a daily live, upgraded gnome-control-panel and the sounds and it worked
[08:53] <duflu> willcooke, OK I will try a fresh machine... some time
[08:53] <willcooke> duflu, nod
[08:53] <willcooke> I think I can see how it might break
[08:53] <willcooke> so doing some more debugging
[08:54] <willcooke>                 if (!playing) {
[08:54] <willcooke>                         ca_proplist_sets (proplist, CA_PROP_EVENT_ID, "audio-test-signal");
[08:54] <willcooke>                         playing = ca_context_play_full (canberra, 1, proplist, finish_cb, control) >= 0;
[08:54] <willcooke>                         g_debug("XXX Here 3");
[08:54] <willcooke>                 }
[08:57] <duflu> I am lost (and also deep in VAAPI/GST)
[08:58] <willcooke> if it hits that branch then it seems to default to audio-test-signal
[08:58] <willcooke> anyway, doesnt matter, don't think about it :)
[08:59] <bigon> willcooke: you pushed gdm with the default.pa file
[09:00] <willcooke> bigon, well, I didn't, but it happened
[09:17] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktops
[09:17] <willcooke> hi flexiondotorg
[09:33] <flexiondotorg> Laney could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/indicator-session/mate-integration/+merge/325600
[09:33] <flexiondotorg> I'm sure I've addressed everything that has been commented on.
[09:34] <Laney> flexiondotorg: sure
[09:35] <Laney> line 30, drop that, you declare it at line 38
[09:35] <Laney> surprised you don't have to cast desktop names, doesn't that warn?
[10:03] <flexiondotorg> Laney Thanks. I'll clean up the code and double check for warnings over lunch.
[10:04] <Laney> flexiondotorg: alright, ping me later on and I'll approve
[10:05] <flexiondotorg> Wilco
[12:12] <GunnarHj> seb128, jbicha: Hi! I've familiarized myself with the Trello board and noticed a card about GNOME and fcitx. Would like to remind of a list message I sent a couple of months ago:
[12:12] <GunnarHj> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-May/004935.html
[12:12] <GunnarHj> I got one reply from Ikuya Awashiro (don't think it made it to the list), but I suppose we need more input on the matter from IM users.
[12:13] <GunnarHj> happyaron: ^
[12:16] <jbicha> GunnarHj: thanks, I added your link to the trello card
[12:17] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Great! Any chance I could get edit access to the board?
[12:17] <andyrock> willcooke: hey I get the same time of crash on a vm
[12:17] <andyrock> i'm on it
[12:17] <willcooke> andyrock, thanks man
[12:17] <willcooke> andyrock, it can wait for next week if you're at a conf
[12:18] <andyrock> it's a working day for me today so np :D
[12:18] <willcooke> GunnarHj, do you have a trello account already?
[12:18] <GunnarHj> willcooke: Yes.
[12:19] <jbicha> GunnarHj: #1 (adding fcitx to g-c-c) is unlikely this cycle, the g-c-c maintainers are really busy switching to the new layout
[12:19] <willcooke> GunnarHj, oki, I think I've added you
[12:20] <GunnarHj> willcooke: You did. Thanks!
[12:20] <willcooke> \o/
[12:20] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Right, stated that in the message for the sake of completeness.
[12:21] <GunnarHj> jbicha: But a decision for 18.04 might affect what we do in 17.10.
[12:23] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Let me forward Ikuya Awashiro's reply. I think he made a few good points.
[12:34] <andyrock> willcooke: my bad. We need to use the snap bin full path because s-p-dbus is running as root
[12:34] <andyrock> I used to test it using sudo s-p-dbus
[12:34] <andyrock> I'll push a fix right now
[12:35] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[12:42] <willcooke> noob question..
[12:42] <willcooke> playing = GPOINTER_TO_INT (g_object_get_data (G_OBJECT (control), "playing"));
[12:42] <willcooke> how can I "playing" that to a string so that I can print it with g_debug?
[12:43] <willcooke> *convert to a string
[12:44] <willcooke> and, related to that
[12:44] <willcooke> I want to get debugging output from libcanberra
[12:56] <andyrock> willcooke: ppa updated, thanks for testing :D
[12:56] <willcooke> andyrock, ta, I will re-test
[12:58] <andyrock> willcooke: you want to know the content of variable playing?
[12:58] <andyrock> g_debug works like printf
[12:59] <andyrock> so g_debug("playing: %d\n",  playing)
[12:59] <andyrock> but not soure if this is what you were asking
[12:59] <willcooke> lemme try that
[13:19] <willcooke> andyrock, software properties works now!!
[13:19] <andyrock> coolio
[13:20] <andyrock> thanks for finding the problem
[13:44] <Laney> just been up in the loft for the first time since the day we moved in
[13:44] <Laney> there's a really sinister dusty chair up there
[13:44] <Laney> and also the light was on when I opened the hatch :(
[13:44] <Laney> assume it's been on for many many months
[13:52] <willcooke> heh
[13:52] <willcooke> Best Tommy Cooper joke EVAR....
[13:53] <willcooke> I was cleaning out the loft with the wife the other day
[13:53] <willcooke> Filthy, dirty, covered in cobwebs
[13:53] <willcooke> But she's good with kids
[14:04] <Laney> :D
[16:49] <cyphermox> willcooke: jbicha: were you aware of this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1647283
[16:50] <cyphermox> (a xenial SRU for n-m, to fix races when renaming interfaces)
[16:58] <jbicha> cyphermox: comment 9 on the LP bug says it doesn't completely fix the issue?
[19:57] <rbasak> Just realised that GUADEC will be on my doorstep.
[19:57] <rbasak> Is anyone Ubuntu going?
[20:00] <immu> meaning
[20:01] <jbicha> rbasak: darkxst will be speaking :) https://2017.guadec.org/talks-and-events/#abstract-52-bringing_gnome_home_to_ubuntu
[20:05] <rbasak> Thanks. I should be able to make that. I can get to the venue in under an hour I think.
[20:07] <jbicha> I guess that's the only formal Ubuntu talk on the schedule, but I think it will have more Ubuntu people this time than the last few years
[20:12] <immu> would we see live video cast