=== JanC_ is now known as JanC
[06:07] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:27] <immu> hiyaaa
[11:30] <lordievader> o/
[11:45] <immu> heyaa alll again
[11:45] <immu> waves to everybody here awake or present :)
[14:07] <EriC^^> afternoon all
[14:10] <lordievader> o/
[14:33] <EriC^^> hey lordievader , how are you?
[14:33] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[14:33] <lordievader> How are you?
[14:34] <EriC^^> good thanks :)
[14:34] <EriC^^> hey pauljw :) how's it going?
[14:36] <pauljw> hi EriC^^ , doing fine here, how are you?  :)
[14:37] <EriC^^> doing good thanks :)
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> afternoon guys
[14:48] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> hey hey EriC^^
[14:48] <EriC^^> how's it going
[14:48] <EriC^^> ?
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> great here
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> im having issue with a lenovo
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> weird flickering
[14:49] <EriC^^> anything in dmesg?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> nothing i can find really
[14:51] <EriC^^> how's the shop going overall?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: pretty nice, my 9th invoice now
[14:51] <EriC^^> awesome
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> small sells, but its a start
[14:52] <EriC^^> yup
[14:53] <EriC^^> hey btw did i tell you i got a ssd?
[14:53] <EriC^^> i think i did, nevermind :D
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Hi EriC^^, lotuspsychje , which ssd EriC^^?
[14:54] <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj :)
[14:54] <EriC^^> it's a kingston
[14:54] <EriC^^> v400 or a400 i forgot, it blew me away though
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: wich Os running on it?
[14:55] <EriC^^> ubuntu 16.04
[14:55] <EriC^^> read/write speed i tried a test with dd it was like 500mb/sec
[14:56] <BluesKaj> nice
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> cool
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[14:58] <ubot5> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.83.89 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB
[14:59] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: could the acpi_osi stuff help maybe?
[14:59] <EriC^^> sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep Windows
[15:01] <immu> !info linux-image-generic artful
[15:01] <ubot5> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.11.0.10.10 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: windows 2009, 2012,2013, 2013
[15:01] <EriC^^> try with acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\"
[15:02] <EriC^^> hey immu
[15:02] <immu> hey EriC^^ long time no seeee
[15:02] <EriC^^> how's it going?
[15:05] <immu> i am cool
[15:05] <immu> u
[15:06] <EriC^^> good thanks
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: rebooting with osi..
[15:06] <EriC^^> ok
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: no dice
[15:07] <EriC^^> do you have a 16.04 iso?
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> not right now, but can make one quick
[15:07] <EriC^^> ok, give it a shot
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> but then i cant update to latest if that causes the flickering?
[15:08] <EriC^^> you can, but you'll be on the xenial stack
[15:08] <EriC^^> mine is also xenial, it's 4.4.0-83 right now
[15:08] <EriC^^> runs well
=== lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: downing .1
[15:16] <EriC^^> ?
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: 16.04
[15:16] <EriC^^> did you try it?
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> still grabbing
[15:16] <EriC^^> oh ok :D
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: perhaps i should bug it, as im still on .2 here?
[15:18] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: yup sure
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> bug #1704409
[15:22] <ubot5> bug 1704409 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Flickering screen on ubuntu 16.04 Lenovo B70" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704409
[15:32] <EriC^^> \o/
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: tryed installing 4.4.0.83 manually from existing install and no flickering after boot
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: so its a kernel thing
[15:33] <EriC^^> nice
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> but now my wifi chipset dont recognize lol
[15:33] <EriC^^> yup
[15:33] <EriC^^> hah :D
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: lemme install 16.04 live now
[15:34] <EriC^^> i think you also need to install the xorg stuff related to 4.4 and stuff  like that
[15:34] <EriC^^> ok cool
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: tnx for the kernel hint
[15:36] <EriC^^> np
[15:36] <EriC^^> did you see spiderman homecoming?
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> not yet
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> any good?
[15:37] <EriC^^> not bad
[15:37] <EriC^^> pretty funny
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> cool
[15:38] <EriC^^> nice effects and shit
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> ill "buy the dvd" :p
[15:38] <EriC^^> lol
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> saw boss baby with kid of friends last
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> also funny
[15:40] <EriC^^> cool
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> not much titles in theaters have got my interest last months
[15:40] <EriC^^> yeah nothing much there
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> dark tower im curious about
[15:41] <EriC^^> yup seems like a good one
[15:41] <EriC^^> i saw so excited about that alien's covenant movie, i watched "prometheus" by mistake like a week earlier, then i said wth let's see the alien's covenant one cause i heard it's supposed to be good
[15:42] <EriC^^> then early on in the movie it turns out to be related to the prometheus one xD
[15:42] <EriC^^> so i was curious to see how it unfolds
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> oO
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> any good?
[15:43] <EriC^^> nasty freakin movie though, whenever i have to switch the electricity in the circuit breaker room i think something's about to jump at me
[15:43] <EriC^^> alien bugs growing inside people, coming out of their backs and shit, lol
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> jesus
[15:43] <EriC^^> it's an interesting movie i guess, not really so meaningful and stuff though, just what's going to happen kind of stuff
[15:44] <immu> it preview of whats to come ahead
[15:44] <EriC^^> lol
[15:44] <EriC^^> nah, the arrival is more like it ;)
[15:45] <EriC^^> nice friendly aliens
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: seems like 16.04 live doesnt flicker and wifi recognize x
[15:45] <EriC^^> cool
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: so i can safely sudo apt full-upgrade right
[15:45] <immu> you don't respond to remote calls for help in space
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> but no dist-upgrade?
[15:45] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: yeah you have to anyways :P
[15:46] <EriC^^> hmm worse case you can run the older kernel via grub til something better comes out i guess
[15:46] <EriC^^> (btw isn't full-upgrade same as dist-upgrade?)
[15:46] <immu> how many are running artful
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ill do regular upgrade then
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> immu: im running on a testbox, why?
[15:47] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: wait, you mean for the flickering or the wifi?
[15:47] <EriC^^> if you dist-upgrade now you'll end up with still a 4.4 kernel
[15:47] <nacc> EriC^^: yeah, full-upgrade is the 'new syntax' in apt, dist-upgrade is an alias of full-upgrade
[15:47] <nacc> EriC^^: but apt-get doesn't support full-upgrade
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: for the flickering
[15:48] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: it shouldn't be a problem to upgrade i think
[15:48] <nacc> these days, full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are basically always afe, IMO
[15:48] <nacc> *safe
[15:48] <EriC^^> you'll end up with 4.4.0-83
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:48] <nacc> the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that i believe dist-upgrade is allowed to remove packages
[15:49] <EriC^^> nacc: yup
[15:49] <EriC^^> nacc: why is ubuntu +r lately?
[15:49] <nacc> EriC^^: i'm not sure -- there was some spamming last week, i think
[15:49] <EriC^^> if someone isn't registered he can't join, this must be letting a lot of people not be able to join
[15:49] <EriC^^> it's been like a month or more :/
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> yeah longer
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> perhaps a lot of botnets leaded to this
[15:50] <EriC^^> we're letting them win
[15:51] <EriC^^> -r that sucker and let the regs have some ops, we'll go crazy on the bots lol
[15:51] <EriC^^> xD
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:52] <immu> lotuspsychje, just counting among the crowd as most people prefer to be on LTS release
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> immu: its just to help !bug out for me
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> immu: so we all have a nice & clean 18.04
[15:56] <immu> yeah true :) you how big is our family nearly 45 to 50 million users
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> immu: did you read devs are still uncertain about wayland for artful?
[16:00] <immu> yeah i did
[16:00] <immu> you can ask on ubuntu-desktop
[16:00] <EriC^^> it's not ready yet?
[16:00] <immu> willcook is theor
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/ubuntu-uncertain-using-wayland-default
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade on 16.04, no flickering anymore ; )
[16:08] <EriC^^> nice :D
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> laterz guys
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> tnx 4 help EriC^^
[16:45] <immu> where i can get torrent file for ubuntu 17.10 daily image?
[16:46] <EriC^^> !dailyimage
[16:46] <EriC^^> !daily
[16:46] <ubot5> Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[16:46] <EriC^^> immu: ^
[16:47] <immu> yeah but downloads are slow
[16:50] <immu> i am getting 100K
[16:50] <EriC^^> dang
[16:53] <immu> can i download 17.06 and then upgrade
[16:53] <immu> to 17.10
[16:53] <immu> or move to
[16:58] <nacc> immu: you mean 17.04?
[16:59] <immu> yeah
[16:59] <EriC^^> immu: yeah sure
[16:59] <EriC^^> you can always upgrade it using -d before it comes out or upgrade as usual when it comes out
[16:59] <nacc> immu: ... yes?
[16:59] <nacc> immu: are you asking if you can upgrade a version of ubuntu to the next one?
[16:59] <immu> how about now
[16:59] <immu> like i get 17.04 and then immediately upgrade to 17.10
[16:59] <nacc> immu: EriC^^ just said you can use -d before it comes out
[17:00] <immu> let me get 17.04 then
[17:07] <immu> getting 1.80Mb speeds on torrents
[19:06] <daftykins> that's... pants
[22:35] <Bashing-om> !backup
[22:35] <ubot5> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning