[00:00] <Threadnaught> minimec: I commented out a few of the lines and now it can't detect the speakers at all (it used to detect them but not actually play anything through them) I'll see what I can uncomment without it spewing 30 errors at me
[00:06] <oerheks> watch -tn 1 date -u +%s
[00:07] <Threadnaught> minimec: my alsa-base.conf https://pastebin.com/AdanA6bU every line which contains 'options' then one word generates an error when I restart alsa
[00:09] <minimec> Threadnaught: I see the problem. They indeed all miss the actual option. Just have a look at the file I pasted.
[00:09] <Threadnaught> I'll put them all on -2 and see if that works
[00:09] <minimec> Threadnaught: Just copy paste the content of my paste...
[00:12] <Threadnaught> minimec: thanks for telling me how to fix that (didn't fix my laptop's internal audio but that doesn't really matter, it was just the error message that was bugging me)
[00:12] <minimec> Threadnaught: No problem. That's our mission here... ;)
[00:13] <minimec> Threadnaught: Next step indeed would be to fix your still existing audio problems...
[00:16] <wyth> Aloha folks. I'm trying to figure out if the trackpad on this laptop is multi-touch gesture compatible. I've tried some googling but haven't really gotten anywhere. I can scroll with two fingers, but haven't been able to check anything registering for 3 or more fingers.
[00:17] <wyth> I tried using the extended gestures extension in gnome-tweak-tool but it doesn't appear to do anything. I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 17.04
[00:17] <Threadnaught> minimec: I did try fixing it like a year ago but in doing it I managed to accidentally remove a lot of critical packages and then panicked and forcibly quit apt mid way through doing stuff so it got locked (fixing that was a fun one), that was a year ago and I haven't gone near it since but I think I exhausted the google search
[00:18] <minimec> wyth: Easiest way to check 3fingers is to open a terminal, do 'ls', mark one of the output lines and do a 3finger tap. I should be copied to the commandline at the end.
[00:19] <Threadnaught> minimec: if you have the skills to dehaunt my laptop that would be greatly appreciated 16.04 Toshiba satellite S50D-A-10H
[00:19] <Threadnaught> audio adapters show up and it thinks they are outputting to them but they are quiet
[00:20] <Threadnaught> *silent
[00:20] <minimec> Threadnaught: First step is 'lspci' to get the actual audio hardware you are jusing. In conmbination with your laptop model number we probably can get somewhere...
[00:20] <wyth> minimec, I'm not sure what you mean by copied to the commandline at the end. Nothing seems to happen when I do a 3finger tap during or after ls though
[00:20] <minimec> Threadnaught: Also... maybe just try to launch alsamixer in a terminal to see if it is muted in alsa...
[00:21] <Threadnaught> minimec: here you go https://pastebin.com/MkMFAdvg
[00:22] <wyth> minimec, Like, I highlighted one of the results and 3 finger tapped it. But my clipboard didn't change. So that probably means only 2 fingers on this trackpad I guess?
[00:23] <Threadnaught> minimec: tried alsamixer, turned everything up, still doesn't work
[00:23] <minimec> wyth: Can you mark a line of the output of 'ls' with a double click in the terminal? If yes, a three finger tap should copy that line to the command prompt (blinking cursor after the ls command was executed)
[00:24] <limbo_> I am trying to build this software: https://gitlab.com/spice/x11spice I don't have a list of all of the packages it requires for building it, but it seems to want libxcb-damage0-dev and a few other packages like libxcb-*-dev is there any metapackage that depends on all of them, or a good way to get all of these build dependancies at once?
[00:24] <wyth> minimec, Aha, that actually worked
[00:25] <wyth> minimec, I guess it was just tempermental the first time I tried to do it as you asked.
[00:25] <minimec> wyth: So three finger tap is working... ;) Now 'pinch to zoom' is problably not working. There might be a way to configure that, but I acutally never used that.
[00:26] <wyth> minimec, I don't really care about pinching so much as being able to switch workspaces with a gesture
[00:27] <wyth> minimec, Though I am going to be eternally grateful to know that shortcut to copy things now, haha.
[00:27] <minimec> wyth: Have a look @ easysroke. this is a specific software for mouse gestures that you can also use with a touchpad... https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=easystroke&searchon=names
[00:28] <minimec> wyth: http://www.timelessguru.com/easystroke
[00:29] <minimec> wyth: I am completely addicted when it comes to easystroke... No way to use a system without it...
[00:29] <wyth> minimec, Heck yeah. Thanks a ton man. I knew this would be the right place to ask. I'll check it out
[00:30] <oerheks> limbo_,  build-dep could fix that
[00:30] <wyth> minimec, I've been using ubuntu server for years, but am completely new to the desktop environment, so I'm just trying to get that stuff comfy. :P
[00:32] <Threadnaught> minimec: g2g, thanks for your help
[00:32] <minimec> TheVacuousTruth: Could you install 'pavucontrol' once and check for the available options for the output devices?
[00:33] <minimec> oups... too late...
[00:34] <limbo_> oerheks: aside from an autoconf script, I don't think the dependancies are documented anywhere.
[00:36] <wyth> minimec, Is there any way to use it without having to hold down a gesture button, since I'm using a trackpad? Is that what the instant gestures option is?
[00:41] <minimec> wyth: I use 'twi finger tap; onefinger move' to do the gestures, although with newer ubuntu versions you have to replace 'libinput' with the 'synaptics' driver. That also means that you are bount to X11. Wayland is not working like that. But X11 is still standard in ubuntu.
[00:43] <wyth> minimec, Hm.. I think I recall that wayland was the default on ubuntu-gnome 17.04?
[00:44] <minimec> wyth: Don't think so.
[00:45] <wyth> minimec, Ok. So I guess I need to switch to the synaptics driver
[00:46] <minimec> wyth: So you need to install 'xserver-xorg-input-synaptics'.  Make sure that you have also 'xserver-xorg-input-all' and 'xserver-xorg-input-evdev' installed.
[00:47] <minimec> wyth: Then you can blacklist 'libinput10' or remove the package. That should do.
[00:48] <wyth> minimec, Okie doke. I'll give it a shot
[00:48] <minimec> wyth: I removed the package, so I don't know if you have to blacklist 'libinput' or 'libinput10'
[00:49] <minimec> wyth: According to the installed files you would have to blacklist 'libinput'
[00:49] <minimec> wyth: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libinput10/filelist
[00:52] <minimec> wyth: I realize that I have libinput10 installed on my system, so you don't even have to remove that package...
[00:52] <wyth> minimec, Ok. I installed those packages. I am not sure how to blacklist 'libinput' though
[00:53] <minimec> wyth: you have to remove 'xserver-xorg-input-libinput' probably...
[00:54] <glitsj16> libinput and synaptics can happily live side-by-side, no need for uninstalling or blacklisting.. just make sure you give priority to whichever you want to use via the naming conventions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[00:55] <wyth> glitsj16, Ah, good to know.
[00:56] <minimec> wyth: To blacklist try 'echo 'blacklist libinput | sudo tee --append /etc/modrpobe.d/blacklist-libinput.conf'
[00:56] <glitsj16> np, like minimec I'm also an easystroke addict
[00:56] <wyth> glitsj16, I don't see xorg.conf.d in /etc/X11
[00:57] <minimec> glitsj16: what else... ;)
[00:57] <glitsj16> wyth: that's norml, you need to create it
[00:57] <glitsj16> minimec: inded, I couldn't do without
[00:57] <wyth> glitsj16, Ahhh.
[00:58] <wyth> glitsj16, I guess perhaps I'll just try blacklisting it as minimec was nice enough to give me the command, haha
[00:58] <minimec> wyth: the command has a little flaw...
[00:58] <glitsj16> wyth: I understand, didn't wanna but in, yet I did lol
[00:58] <wyth> minimec, It's missing an " ' "?
[00:58] <minimec> wyth: echo 'blacklist libinput' | sudo tee --append /etc/modrpobe.d/blacklist-libinput.conf
[00:59] <minimec> wyth: indeed...
[00:59] <wyth> minimec, hehehe
[00:59] <wyth> minimec, No such file or directory
[01:00] <wyth> brb
[01:00] <oerheks> * modprobe
[01:00] <minimec> wyth: echo 'blacklist libinput' | sudo tee --append /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-libinput.conf
[01:00] <minimec> oerheks: THX ;)
[01:08] <wyth> Cool, it returns blacklist libinput after running it
[01:08] <minimec> wyth: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-libinput.conf ?
[01:09] <wyth> minimec, Returns the same thing :)
[01:10] <minimec> wyth: Well you will have to reboot now. logout/login is not enough I guess...
[01:11] <wyth> minimec, Roger that. Brb.
[01:15] <wyth> ok, I'm back
[01:18] <wyth> It's a little weird that I tried running easystroke --version and it showed the help menu, where it said using --version would show the version information and exit. But there was no version information
[01:20] <wyth> aha, easystroke about will show a dialog with the version #
[01:20] <wyth> is 0.6.0-0ubuntu9 current?
[01:21] <minimec> wyth: I use easystroke on three different distributions and I don't care about the version. Just works...
[01:22] <glitsj16> wyth: it is for zesty yes
[01:23] <wyth> minimec, Ok. I'm just not sure I'm seeing the option you're referring to regarding the finger gestures. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the options
[01:24] <wyth> minimec, Under the gesture options I'm only seeing things that seem to pertain to mouse/keyboard.
[01:25] <wyth> minimec, I'm being a little dense I think.
[01:26] <wyth> minimec, For instance I'm not seeing 'two finger tap; onefinger move'
[01:26] <wyth> minimec, Unless you're describing how you recorded the gesture?
[01:27] <wyth> minimec, Sorry, talking myself through it now. You used two finger tap as your gesture button, with the timeout action? then recorded the one finger move gesture?
[01:28] <minimec> wyth: https://snag.gy/59TW06.jpg
[01:28] <minimec> wyth: That's my current 'button' configuration on fedora26
[01:30] <wyth> minimec, got it
[01:30] <minimec> wyth: So I do a 'two finger tap' followed by a 'one finger move' to do the gestures.
[01:31] <minimec> glitsj16: What do you use a easystroke gesture on a touchpad? WOuld be interesting to know...
[01:31] <wyth> minimec, But you use record stroke to do the gesture?
[01:33] <minimec> wyth: https://youtu.be/DPmhvgMIxzo?t=42
[01:33] <glitsj16> minimec: I've set 4 corner tap-zones via synclient and I only use 1 & 2 finger gestures
[01:34] <wyth> minimec, haha, excellent
[01:35] <minimec> glitsj16: Nice approach! ;)
[01:37] <glitsj16> minimec: so tapping only.. well, my laptop's touchpad is sort of broken lol, but thanks to easystroke/synclient it is better than when i bought the thing (lightyears ago)
[01:37] <wyth> minimec, Hm.. still having trouble getting it to record. I'll have to check back in on a little bit, about to leave work. Thanks again guys
[01:38]  * wyth waves
[01:38]  * minimec waves back...
[01:39] <minimec> glitsj16: ;) These small tools with linux always make me smile....
[01:40] <glitsj16> minimec: that's indeed a blessing, and I migrated to linux partly because I hated to have to buy new hardware just because someone decided to up the specs for an OS upgrade
[01:41] <glitsj16> xdotool is another example
[01:42] <glitsj16> I would have a very hard time moving to wayland without all those little gems
[01:46] <minimec> glitsj16: Yeah... imwheel is yet another tool I cannot miss. I mean for years now my easystroke and imwheel configuration is the first thing I copy to a new computer installation.
[01:48] <m4dh4tt4> is there any way to change my apt sources to https? they seem to error out
[01:50] <Dreaman> kay repos
[02:13] <ah-donny> Anyone got any tips for optimising ubuntu for gaming?
[02:17] <Jojero> hi?
[02:18] <Jojero> Can I use PS or AI inside linux?
[02:21] <Jojero> Hi?
[02:26] <Jojero> hello? why so quiet??
[02:27] <th0r> Jojero: I can't speak for others, but I am trying to figure out what PS and AI are
[02:27] <Jojero> Photoshop or Adobe Illustration?
[02:29] <th0r> Jojero: those are windows packages are they not? there are software packages that will perform the same tasks, but I doubt those will run under wine
[02:30] <Jojero> Is it good running on wine?
[02:30] <Jojero> or there is something that can be like alternative?
[02:34] <ah-donny> The Adobe suite are windows based and don't run particularly well under Linux through wine or alike.
[02:34] <ah-donny> There are alternatives like GIMP for Photoshop
[02:35] <ah-donny> and I think for vector drawings you could use inkscape
[02:35] <ah-donny> they are just my opinions and I am not an expert in this field so take that as you will
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !studio
[02:55] <rellis> Hello all. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and trying to use the OpenVPN plugin for Network Manager.
[02:55] <rellis> It seems the additional DNS server I put in the Network Manager never actually get applied..
[02:58] <regedit> check 'em epoch 1500001111
[03:00] <Jojero> thanks for the answer
[03:00] <Jojero> is there an alternative like premier pro?
[03:08] <wadadli> Jojero: which software category does it fall in?
[03:08] <Jojero> adobe? a for digital designs?
[03:09] <Jojero> im a web developer intern tho so I wanna go to linux while can do graphic editing.
[03:09] <wadadli> Jojero: what's your reasoning behind your intent?
[03:10] <wadadli> Jojero: Also Adobe isn't a software category.
[03:10] <Jojero> Im on windows and I feel like it is buggy
[03:10] <Jojero> and unsafe
[03:11] <Jojero> since I always got malwared XD
[03:11] <Jojero> and I want an independent OS
[03:12] <wadadli> Jojero: Hm ok. Well there many solutions to your inquiries, but the short answer is no you won't be able to execute .exe binary files on Linux
[03:13] <[n0mad]> did you look at the http://ubuntustudio.org link and see the features to see what applications it offers?
[03:19] <Jojero> yes I know I cant execute. because on linux its .desktop which was a shortcut link with scripts to run an app that was on the environment path. (im not so sure tho)
[03:19] <Jojero> let me take a look at it :)
[03:25] <_unreal_> What do you guys think is better? ODROID-C2                    ODROID-XU4                        ASUS SBC Tinker board RK3288
[03:25] <Eater4> Hey. Question. What does rtnetlink:file exists mean? I looked it up and found solutions, but none of them worked for me. I think my /etc/network/interfaces is correct, but would be glad to post (Ubuntu 16.04)
[03:28] <Hulio> i love ubuntu so much
[03:28] <Hulio> so plain and simple fast!
[03:28] <Hulio> i wish windows do similar
[03:32] <rajivmars> i have just installed xubuntu 16.04.2. why the brightness is automatically increases when i first plug/unplug the laptop to the power source?
[03:32] <rajivmars> this is happening when i plug/unplug the laptop to a power source first time after turn on or restart. and after adjusting the brightness to my comfort level it is not changing for the entire session. But again if i restart or turn off and then turn on the laptop and plug/unlugg it for the first time after this the brightness increases again. why is this happening? somebody pls help me solving this issue?
[03:35] <Hulio> hi guys, why chrome in ubuntu can't play flash?
[03:35] <Hulio> how to enable it?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> Hulio: Chrome in Ubuntu should behave pretty much the same WRT flash as chrome in Windows and OSX. Are you really using chrome rather than chromium? What site are you trying to use that requires flash?
[04:03] <Jojero> does ubuntu is good?
[04:03] <Jojero> I just see that canonical giving price for plans.
[04:04] <_unreal_> Jojero, ?
[04:04] <Jojero> the support category?
[04:05] <_unreal_> i'm not sure what your asking
[04:32] <Jojero> if you go to ubuntu.com you will see Support > Plans and Pricing
[04:33] <oerheks> Jojero, sure, if you want pro help, scroll down to ubuntu advantage
[04:34] <Jojero> oh
[04:34] <oerheks> min order 50 desktops or so
[04:34] <Jojero> nevermind, I just solve the problem on my own
[04:50] <bray90820> Is there any voice controlled music player for ubuntu so i can call out a song and have it start playing?
[04:59] <DoublePlusGood23> bray90820: Maybe hacking around with Mycroft?
[04:59] <bray90820> Mycrosoft on linux does not compute
[04:59] <bray90820> *Mycroft
[05:00] <yokowka> hello! how to change pass of superuser in ubuntu 17.04?
[05:00] <yokowka> i forget it...
[05:03] <yokowka> good day! i forget my sudo password in ubuntu 17.04 how i can enter the system?
[05:04] <DoublePlusGood23> yokowka:  sudo -s
[05:04] <DoublePlusGood23> passwd root
[05:04] <DoublePlusGood23> Although it's not really recommended unless you know what you're doing
[05:05] <DoublePlusGood23> bray90820: https://mycroft.ai/
 good day! i can't log in ubuntu...
[05:05] <Jojero> what is better unity or gnome?
[05:05] <DoublePlusGood23> yokowka: Do you remember your user password?
[05:06] <DoublePlusGood23> Jojero: Unity is great, but I migrated to gnome which is also great
[05:06] <yokowka> No <DoublePlusGood23>(
[05:06] <Jojero> which is more customizable?
[05:06] <Jojero> I prefer a lightweight but not look like windows desktop
[05:06] <bray90820> DoublePlusGood23: Well would you look at that I wanted to use it on a raspberry pi as well
[05:07] <Jojero> im a web developer tho, I hope there is something like Photoshop alternative.
[05:07] <bray90820> Jojero: Try gimp
[05:07] <DoublePlusGood23> yokowka:  Alright. You'll want to reboot into Recovery Mode. hold "Shift" while booting up
[05:07] <Jojero> how about other adobe products alternatives?
[05:07] <xangua> Jojero: gnome is know as being "simple" , if you want a light desktop and very customizable... Check xubuntu/xfce
[05:08] <Jojero> nah its good, I will use gnome .. XFCE is a little bit suck when it comes on design
[05:08] <DoublePlusGood23> Jojero:  Gnome is very customizable with it's extension system. It's actually coded in web technologies!
[05:09] <Jojero> yea i love it.
[05:10] <Hitechcg> someone tell the GNOME devs to stop changing stuff for the sake of change
[05:10] <strive> Lubuntu is even lighter.
[05:10] <strive> In my opinion.
[05:11] <Hitechcg> I like LXDE or MATE personally
[05:11] <Hitechcg> but I'm using Unity right now
[05:11] <strive> MATE runs GNOME2 was it?
[05:12] <Hitechcg> MATE is a continuation of GNOME 2
[05:12] <strive> Ah, right it's forked.
[05:12] <Hitechcg> before GNOME went downhill
[05:12] <Hitechcg> IMO
[05:12] <strive> Heh.
[05:13] <Hitechcg> and Ubuntu's kinda been going downhill with it, I loved how they removed all the menu options from Nautilus in 16.10
[05:14] <Hitechcg> can't really blame them for not wanting to have to heavily patch every single thing from GNOME though
[05:14] <DoublePlusGood23> Hitechcg: I only wish it was more stable but that's probably related to extensions over GNOME itself
[05:34] <yokowka> здравия русы есть?
[05:34] <yokowka> не не так, здравия, РУСы есть?)
[05:39] <yokowka> кто знает как поменять в  убунту 17.04 пароль? не могу войти в систему...
[05:45] <ubone> passwd youruser as root
[06:03] <Lope> When I boot my newly installed ubuntu 16.04 on a computer that's about 2 years old, has been standing unused for 1.5 years, has a cheap older powersupply that's rusting on the back. it says "System program problem detected" "Do you want to report the problem now?" How do I see what that problem is?
[06:03] <Lope> Why doesn't it tell me anything?
[06:04] <Seveas> Lope: anything in /var/crash?
[06:07] <Ben64> oh crossposting
[06:07] <Lope> Inside /var/crash/ I have 1 _usr_bin_compiz file, 1 Inkscape file and 1 systemsettings file.
[06:09] <Seveas> Lope: those are the three crash reports it noticed and wants to send
[06:13] <Lope> It's nothing in /var/crash This dialog keeps popping up. While I'm investigating. And there's nothing in /var/crash from today.
[06:14] <Lope> If I click the report button on the dialog it says Polkit subject #### polkit caller-pid #### action com.ubuntu.apport.apport-gtk-root Vendor Apport. What's that supposed to mean? Why does it hardly tell me anything?
[06:19] <Lope> Oh. It looks like it's because there were crashes in /var/crash that I did not report. So it's bugging me over and over about the unreported crashes, without actually telling me anything the whole time.
[06:19] <Lope> I don't like the secretive way apport works, This is not windows. I want to have access to all the information.
[06:19] <m4dh4tt4> cant you expand on details when that comes up?
[06:19] <Lope> m4dh4tt4, no
[06:19] <Kartagis> ahoy
[06:19] <Lope> It doesn't show anything and there's no button to see more details. It's very microsofty.
[06:20] <m4dh4tt4> hmm i dont know all flavs of buntu but my 16.04 i beleive i can expand
[06:20] <m4dh4tt4> have u tried examining startup
[06:20] <Lope> Okay I'll take a screenshot next time it comes up.
[06:20] <Lope> my /var/log/syslog seems to be disabled
[06:20] <m4dh4tt4> what do u mean by disabled
[06:21] <m4dh4tt4> ill take your word for it im just trying to help
[06:21] <Lope> m4dh4tt4, empty
[06:21] <m4dh4tt4> can you ls -al /var/log/syslog
[06:22] <Kartagis> I've got a bash script that utilises linkchecker, and linkchecker is in /usr/local/bin (verified with which and by looking into that directory) but the bash script refuses to locate linkchecker. any ideas what I can do?
[06:23] <m4dh4tt4> use full parth kartagis /usr/local/bin/linkcheker
[06:23] <Kartagis> hmm, I just did that and no difference
[06:24] <m4dh4tt4> what kinda script?
[06:24] <m4dh4tt4> it may need a header, if its .sh #!/bin/bash as first line if python #!$(which python)
[06:24] <Lope> Ah I created my own service script in /etc/init.d/ journalctl is saying that it failed to start my script. "Failed to start LSB: runs bash /foo/bar.sh"
[06:25] <Lope> The strange thing is that my script does run.
[06:25] <Kartagis> one I wrote that checks for broken links, reading a file of urls
[06:25] <Lope> lightdm[1952]: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so: cannot open shared object file
[06:26] <m4dh4tt4> lope ya init.d scripts are their own beast their might be other stuff required to properly report back to the OS that it ran ok
[06:26] <Lope> pulseaudio[2319]: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[06:26] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: the first line reads #!/bin/bash
[06:26] <Lope> m4dh4tt4, oh, where can I read about that?
[06:26] <Lope> pulseaudio[2137]: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate ser
[06:27] <Lope> Okay that's all
[06:27] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: and SHELL is also /bin/bash
[06:27] <Lope> Some minor stuff it seems.
[06:27] <m4dh4tt4> https://gist.github.com/naholyr/4275302 kinda has some stuff
[06:29] <m4dh4tt4> kartagis if you chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/linkchecker, then ls -al /usr/local/bin/linkchecker, and then your script calls /usr/local/bin/linkchecker, i dont see how it could fail, sometimes when troubleshooting i just jam an "echo " in front of whats misbehaving so i can see what its doing
[06:30] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: it's 755 alright
[06:32] <m4dh4tt4> and are you calling /usr/local/bin/linkchecker with arguments? whats the error message? maybe the arguments are having issues with non-escape characters
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Please pastebin your script.
[06:36] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25087281/
[06:38] <Kartagis> should I mention that this is in a VM and was working properly before the IP changed
[06:38] <Kartagis> (I don't know it's relevant)
[06:38] <m4dh4tt4> k so when i say use full path /usr/local/bin/linkchecker and you leave it as "linkchecker" and reply that you used full path... how is this not wasting everyones time
[06:38] <Kartagis> if*
[06:38] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: I used both
[06:39] <m4dh4tt4> k replace linkchecker with $(which linkchecker)
[06:39] <m4dh4tt4> and when u replaced it, did u do it on line 11 AND 13? or just one
[06:42] <Kartagis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25087308/
[06:42] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: ^^
[06:43] <Kartagis> and I must also add that /usr/local/bin is in PATH
[06:43] <Kartagis> that's the first thing I checked
[06:44] <m4dh4tt4> can u also pastebin results of: which linkchecker;ls -al $(which linkchecker); id;
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: First, for general bash hygiene please quote all of your expansions: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#cp_.24file_.24target
[06:46] <m4dh4tt4> also at the end of your script you should add an echo $HOME
[06:46] <m4dh4tt4> my guess is the box got rebooted and whatever $HOME was set to is gone
[06:46] <m4dh4tt4> so replace with ~/ is appropriate
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: And for readability, split your while loop into multiple lines (basically, use line breaks instead of ';').
[06:48] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25087330/
[06:48] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: I can see the file being read
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Then, add the following to the beginning of your script: echo "$PATH"; which linkchecker; ls -l /usr/local/bin/linkchecker
[06:49] <Kartagis> just not processed by linkchecker
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Then re-run your script and pastebin the complete output.
[06:54] <Kartagis> I can't believe it, the page you linked to mentioned white spaces so I looked and all ofthe lines have them at the end
[06:55] <Kartagis> of the*
[07:03] <Kartagis> same thing
[07:08] <m4dh4tt4> im betting its the $HOME
[07:09] <Kartagis> funny thing
[07:09] <Kartagis> none of the websites in the file is accessible from that subnet
[07:10] <Kartagis> pinged
[07:10] <m4dh4tt4> ping doesnt mean http:80 is optn
[07:10] <m4dh4tt4> open, nor closed
[07:10] <m4dh4tt4> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25087460/
[07:11] <m4dh4tt4> there run that bro and youll most likely find the issue
[07:11] <m4dh4tt4> its your script but with some echo's in it
[07:18] <Sourcey> Hello. Hope someone can help me. I have set up a A and MX record. email.example.com and want to run PostFix on my server. Im struggling with understanding the hosts and aliases
[07:19] <Sourcey> is my /etc/hosts file related to postfix setup?
[07:19] <Kartagis> nope, not really
[07:20] <Kartagis> Sourcey: #ubuntu-server might be able to help you better
[07:20] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: nothing
[07:20] <Sourcey> ok thanks
[07:21] <Kartagis> m4dh4tt4: time bl.sh yayinevi
[07:21] <Kartagis> /home/tolga/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
[07:21] <Kartagis> /usr/local/bin/linkchecker
[07:21] <Kartagis> -rwxr-xr-x 1 tolga tolga 186 May 10 15:49 /usr/local/bin/linkchecker
[07:21] <Kartagis> /home/tolga/bin/bl.sh: line 13: /home/tolga/kirik-baglantilar/2017/July/yayinevi.sabanciuniv.edu-2017-07-14.txt: No such file or directory
[07:21] <Kartagis> sorry
[07:22] <Kartagis> thanks Drone`
[07:24] <m4dh4tt4> so do u see that, no such file or directory
[07:29] <Kartagis> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[07:30] <Kartagis> apparently I removed the mkdir statement
[07:30] <Kartagis> it's totally a case of PEBKAC
[07:30] <Kartagis> sorry
[07:35] <Sourcey> I'm renting a dedicated server. hosts reads like this "ip somename.companyRentedFrom.com nameGivenByThem"
[07:35] <Sourcey> If I change everything in this line to my own dns but same IP - will it make problems?
[07:37] <Sourcey> connected via ssl so im scared of doing something wrong and loosing the connection
[07:39] <oerheks> That companyRentedFrom could answer that better than us
[07:40] <Ben64> make sure you're not relying on sudo if you're going to mess with hosts
[07:40] <m4dh4tt4> how are you connected? if its via SSH, write down the ip , backup the hosts file, wipe it, put whatever you want and reboot and re-ssh back in
[07:50] <Sourcey> m4dh4tt4: Yes, connected via SSH
[07:50] <Sourcey> no physical access without paying someone to do it
[07:52] <Sourcey> got this server thrown at me, and without being an expert at all trying to do everything by the book. Securing it, setting up email server and web server
[07:52] <Sourcey> but this is out of my comfort zone ;D
[07:53] <wadadli> Sourcey: nice, what's the company?
[07:55] <Sourcey> its a side project for the company. so of course nothing company critical stuff. we already have this set up by professionals beforehand. but now we want to set up something new on the side and see how it goes
[07:57] <Sourcey> anyway.. back to the question. Changing the hosts file. Keeping the ip but changing everything else - will it make me loose my connection to it?
[08:02] <wadadli> Sourcey: I think you should hire a professional
[08:04] <Sourcey> So, you dont know?
[08:06] <blackflow> Sourcey: the hosts file is just a map consulted before a name is resolved through a configured resolver. changing it will not disconnect you
[08:08] <Sourcey> ok thanks blackflow
[08:09] <blackflow> Sourcey: btw "change everything in this line to my own dns..." Did you mean to your own NAME? because those are not dns servers, those are hostnames and IPs they resolve to
[08:12] <Sourcey> blackflow: Not doing anything with it yet. Just want to know it for later. I want to change it to <Same IP> <name.example.com> Username
[08:13] <blackflow> Sourcey: that "username" is just a non-fqdn hostname that will resolve to that IP, is that what you want?  so eg. when you do, on that machine, stufe like "ping username" the system will resolve hostname "username" to that IP
[08:13] <blackflow> *stuff
[08:15] <momomo> i just installed ubuntu server on a separate local computer. it has ip 192.168.0.103. I am trying to setup ssh ... and ssh is installed. from my other computer i try to ping the new server but it is not reachable .. i have configured the router to forward traffic to that computer. I am not sure what the problem is. anyone?
[08:16] <blackflow> momomo: if they're in the same subnet, there shouldn't have been any forwarding configuration required. are they?
[08:17] <momomo> my laptop is on 192.168.0.105 and the server 103
[08:18] <momomo> so I think they are .. i also have a dual boot for windows on the same "server" and i usually am able to rdp to it .. .
[08:19] <blackflow> yes it's the same subnet. the router should freely allow packets in it unless you have some special configuration there
[08:19] <momomo> blackflow: it's a fresh install . so i am not really sure
[08:20] <blackflow> momomo: no I mean the router. what did you do to it? what do you mean by "configured the router to forward traffic"?
[08:20] <momomo> blackflow: only on one port to the lapttop that is public ... nothing else ... the server can't ping the laptop either i just noticed
[08:21] <momomo> maybe its a router problem?
[08:22] <blackflow> sounds like it. pings, btw, are icmp packets, so you'd have to configure the router to pass through icmp as well -- if it really has to do that, because like I said the usual operation is to allow packets freely in the subnet
[08:22] <blackflow> the 192.168.0.0/24 subnet in your case
[08:26] <altersid> hi, isn't the user's .profile file read at login? I am putting a setxkbmap directive there but it seems to be ignored
[08:26] <altersid> (I've also tried .xsession, .xinitrc, to no avail)
[08:27] <blackflow> momomo: btw, this server, is it dhcp or static network config?
[08:28] <blackflow> momomo: it's possible that if it's not dhcp, the router never activates routes to it because it never received a request for an IP
[08:28] <Ben64> altersid: you try /etc/default/keyboard ?
[08:28] <altersid> Ben64: but that will set for all users right?
[08:28] <momomo> blackflow: its dhcp i think but i have bound the two to a static ip
[08:28] <momomo> local
[08:28] <Ben64> altersid: yep
[08:28] <altersid> I don't want to force people to deal with my peculiarities
[08:30] <Ben64> altersid: could try setting it in dconf? should be local that way
[08:32] <altersid> I guess that would work, if anyone knows of a file read at login, I am all hear :)
[08:32] <altersid> thanks Ben64
[08:33] <karlstefan> Chromium browser keeps on crashing, I've done the uninstall --purge as well as rm -rf ./config/chromium and ./cache/chromium
[08:33] <karlstefan> Any suggestions?
[08:33] <Ben64> altersid: the problem is what you're doing is getting overruled by the gui stuff
[08:33] <altersid> Ben64: I didn't know that
[08:34] <altersid> (I am usually on a very minimal system)
[08:34] <Ben64> me neither, used my google fu and found out the past few mins
[08:50] <Shawn|i7-720QM> can someone help me please?
[08:51] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I tried deleteing xauth
[08:51] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ubuntu server recreated it after reboot, and I still get /usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/shawn/.Xauthority
[08:53] <davidl> how to save LibreOffice draw files without the "General input output error"
[08:53] <davidl> ?
[08:54] <davidl> Im using Xubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[08:54] <davidl> but still I have this libreoffice bug.
[09:17] <Dunga> Shawn|i7-720QM - Have you tried to deleting ~/.Xauthority instead. You may want to rename it first before deleting it
[09:17] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I did, and it fixed my problem
[09:17] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ubuntu recreated it, without error
[09:18] <Shawn|i7-720QM> now I need to figure out how to configure /.config/nautilus
[09:18] <Shawn|i7-720QM> nautilus is complaining about needing permissions after installing
[09:19] <Shawn|i7-720QM> nvm, I just ran it under sudo and cleared up
[09:19] <Dunga> Is there anything you did recently that might have caused your permissions to change
[09:19] <Shawn|i7-720QM> what do you mean?
[09:19] <Shawn|i7-720QM> Ive not done anything with permissions
[09:19] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I just recently installed ubuntu server 16.04.2
[09:20] <Shawn|i7-720QM> LTS
[09:20] <Dunga> can you check which user owns the files in .config folder
[09:20] <Shawn|i7-720QM> how?
[09:23] <Dunga> ls -l ~/.config
[09:24] <momomo> i have a server with minimal ui ... how can i allow my remote laptop to RDP to the server ?
[09:24] <momomo> what programs should I install?
[09:27] <Dunga> momomo - on the server you need a vnc-server like vino installed.  Then on the laptop you need a vnc client installed.
[09:30] <Shawn|i7-720QM> Dunga, thats no tthe only way
[09:30] <Shawn|i7-720QM> he can do x11 forwarding
[09:30] <Shawn|i7-720QM> vnc is more resource intensive on the server
[09:31] <Shawn|i7-720QM> rdp and vnc are different :/
[09:31] <Shawn|i7-720QM> Dunga, https://hastebin.com/inonoqikuk
[09:43] <Dunga> Shawn|i7-720QM - shown the files and folders in .config must be owned by root. Do you want to backup your .config folder first and I will send you a command to change ownership?
[09:43] <Shawn|i7-720QM> aren't they owned by root?
[09:44] <Dunga> Unless you are logged in as root, they should be owned by normal $USER
[09:44] <[worksti]> my linux is broken somehow, i dont even know what to call it. what is happening here ? how can this possibly be ? https://pastebin.com/T4GvLQ1M
[09:45] <[worksti]> could it be some strange caching issue ?
[09:58] <croberts> Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now :(
[10:00] <minimec> croberts: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ https://paste.fedoraproject.org/ https://paste.debian.net/
[10:00] <croberts> yeah, i was just letting <[worksti] know
[10:01] <croberts> it finally loaded but idk enough about docker to help so
[10:08] <oerheks> so you installed docker-compose, and a docker-compose unofficial, in your userland /usr/local/
[10:09] <Shawn|i7-720QM> Dunga, ?
[10:12] <Dunga> Shawn|i7-720QM - sorry I got pulled away
[10:13] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ah
[10:13] <Shawn|i7-720QM> thats okay
[10:13] <Shawn|i7-720QM> it started working when I ran sudo startxfce4
[10:14] <Dunga> Awesome
[10:15] <[worksti]> oerheks: no, i installed only one docker-compose, the official one, in my /usr/local
[10:16] <Shawn|i7-720QM> Dunga, can you see it?
[10:16] <Shawn|i7-720QM> its beautifull!
[10:16] <[worksti]> where 'the official one' means 'the one from docker-compose', as opposed to the incredibly outdated ubuntu package
[10:16] <oerheks> [worksti], what is the output of apt-cache policy docker-compose
[10:16] <Dunga> Had closed the screen. I will take a look
[10:17] <oerheks> you claim 2 version numbers, and show version info, one normal by comand, one by full path, sure you know this.
[10:18] <[worksti]> oerheks: sure i know what ?
[10:18] <[worksti]> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/G~bgd-q2r~3so2q~XUkpow
[10:22] <[worksti]> and i dont 'claim' 2 version numbers, its what linux is reporting
[10:25] <Ben64> well it's because you installed two versions
[10:25] <[worksti]> how so, Ben64 ?
[10:25] <[worksti]> and where is the second one ?
[10:25] <Ben64> you're the one who should know
[10:25] <Ben64> this is why 3rd party stuff isn't supported here
[10:26] <oerheks> [worksti], normally docker installs in /usr/bin/docker... you just forgot to uninstall before you installed your private one
[10:26] <[worksti]> i can only see the one at /usr/local/bin/docker-compose
[10:27] <Dunga> [worksti] - $ sudo find / -type f -iname docker-compose
[10:27] <[worksti]> oerheks: are you certain about that ? apt policy reports that its not installed and trying to apt remove also says its not installed
[10:27] <Dunga> One way to find where another one is
[10:28] <[worksti]> Dunga: i dont understand why you guys all think there are two - it quite clearly shows that both commands should be calling the same actual file, the one at /usr/local/bin/docker-compose
[10:29] <[worksti]> running the find command now, but its gonna be a while, got a big disk
[10:29] <Ben64> so if it's the same executable then it's still 3rd party and still not supported here
[10:29] <oerheks> no, he got 2 versions alright
[10:29] <[worksti]> or am i mistaken about how 'which' works ? does it not show which binary is called when you try to start it without a path ?
[10:30] <[worksti]> Ben64: my issue is not with the file itself but with the underlying linux system
[10:30] <Ben64> but it's self caused
[10:30] <Ben64> not really on topic here since it's 3rd party packages, it would be appropriate for ##linux though
[10:30] <[worksti]> maybe we can move away from it specifically being docker-compose but to the question how "cmd" and "$(which cmd)" and run different files
[10:31] <[worksti]> i use the default, non third party versions of both bash and which
[10:31] <oerheks> you showed us $ /usr/local/bin/docker-compose --version $ docker-compose --version ( what should be from  /usr/bin/docker-compose )
[10:31] <oerheks> now you tel l us the find output?
[10:32] <[worksti]> oerheks: so you are saying that the which command should not report which binary is run when i write docker-compose ?
[10:32] <Ben64> who knows what else the 3rd party package did
[10:33] <[worksti]> https://pastebin.com/CHTtJsMZ the two in the aufs file systems are inside docker volumes
[10:33] <[worksti]> Ben64: there is no 3rd party package. i just put a file there and did chmod +x
[10:34] <[worksti]> surely the steps "put file in folder, chmod +x file, call file, put new file there, call it again" should be within the realms of what is on topic here
[10:35] <Ben64> yet you did something else
[10:35] <[worksti]> what else did i do
[10:35] <Ben64> again, you're the one who should know that
[10:36] <[worksti]> uhm ... so your position is that i did something malicious that im now lying about, to get help .. doing what ? im totally confused what you are trying to accuse me about
[10:36] <[worksti]> or even why
[10:37] <Ben64> you did something wonky to your system, placed? a binary in a directory and now things are wonky and you want to get help here
[10:37] <azizLIGHT> hi, im not seeing any volume notification popups on ubuntu 14.04. is there a way to restart it
[10:37] <[worksti]> what kind of misdoing on my part could even possibly get 'which' to misbehave like that ?
[10:38] <Ben64> so many possibilities
[10:38] <[worksti]> no, i placed a binary in a directory, nothing wonky about it, the same way literally millions of people do who use current versions of docker-compose
[10:39] <[worksti]> i dont know with what i have earned this frankly baffling level of hostility
[10:39] <Ben64> not hostility, but this is not the correct channel to get help with self caused wonkiness
[10:39] <Ben64> have you tried maybe checking versions of every docker-compose binary on the system
[10:39] <[worksti]> i pasted the original situation, which in itself should be really enough to see that something weird is going on, no matter what the binary in question was, i have not been rude, i followed every instruction, provided every last bit of information asked for
[10:39] <Ben64> because i'd start there
[10:41] <[worksti]> there is only one docker-compose on the system, and its the version the direct path syntax reports. i dont know where the old version comes from, its the one of the binary before i updated it. i can only imagine it is cached somehow. but i dont know how to proceed from here if you are outright telling me that i must be lying about what i did
[10:41] <[worksti]> the problem is no longer present in new terminals i open, reinforcing my suspicion that its some obscure caching issue and pretty much solving the issue for me
[10:42] <Ben64> great
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:26] <Shawn|i7-720QM> is x2go available in the ubuntu aptitude repository?
[11:28] <Shawn|i7-720QM> oh I gotta add it
[11:28] <Shawn|i7-720QM> a repository
[11:35] <momomo> Hi, I am having trouble running command make from a installation guide, this is my output: https://hastebin.com/anibigosas.go
[11:36] <zetheroo> is /usr/lib/firefox/firefox.sh the Firefox executable?
[11:36] <momomo> Hi, I am having trouble running command make from a installation guide, this is my output: https://hastebin.com/anibigosas.go
[11:50] <rory> momomo: what software are you installing, have you got a link to the guide you're following?
[11:54] <glitsj16> zetheroo: yes it is, /usr/bin/firefox is a symlink to that file
[11:54] <zetheroo> glitsj16: ok thanks
[12:01] <tsarompy> good morning ubuntu <3
[12:21] <slipttees> Hi guys
[12:22] <slipttees> I clone disk with dd, and replace in new disk and get error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found. Entering rescue mode.
[12:24] <dsc_> hi, I'm trying to install `curl` on a fresh ubuntu 9.4 machine
[12:24] <dsc_> apt-get update yields broken repos
[12:25] <dsc_> how does one go about adding old repos, where are they located?
[12:26] <blackflow> dsc_: "fresh" ubuntu 9.4?? nine four?
[12:26] <dsc_> blackflow: fresh in the sense that I installed it 5 minutes ago
[12:26] <dsc_> xD
[12:27] <compdoc> bad idea
[12:27] <blackflow> it's loooong unsupported.
[12:27] <dsc_> im aware
[12:27] <slipttees> 9.04? :O
[12:27] <blackflow> then... you're asking how to do the unsupported thing you know is unsupported? :)
[12:27] <dsc_> 9.04, yep
[12:27] <dsc_> blackflow: yep
[12:28] <dsc_> just wondering how ubuntu (or any distro for that matter) handles old repos
[12:28] <dsc_> do they change location .. how does it work
[12:28] <dsc_> magnets, how do they work?
[12:28] <blackflow> dsc_: maybe doing what's described under "Update sources.list" title:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[12:29] <slipttees> dsc_: why 9.04?
[12:29] <dsc_> blackflow: hmm, I dont really want to upgrade
[12:29] <dsc_> but thanks
[12:29] <slipttees> dsc_: try 4.10 :-p
[12:29] <blackflow> it's not about upgrade, but old-releases.ubuntu.com in sources.list   I have _no_ idea if that'll fix it, but is the only thing I can think of
[12:30] <dsc_> blackflow: alright, coolios :)
[12:30] <ExeciN> hi people. My vps provider only offers ubuntu desktop (when it comes to ubuntu). Can I somehow "upgrade" to ubuntu server?
[12:30] <dsc_> ExeciN: one would generally remove the window manager
[12:31] <blackflow> ExeciN: see what happens if you try to apt remove ubuntu-desktop package. It should also pull out all the deps and thus remove a lot if not all desktop packages.
[12:32] <slipttees> ExeciN: instal tasksel
[12:32] <slipttees> ExeciN: remove ubuntu desktop and lightdm
[12:32] <slipttees> ExeciN: sudo apt-get install linux-server linux-image-server
[12:33] <ExeciN> blackflow: will that work? because right now I'm on centos 7. I just want to get ubuntu on this vps to match the rest of the vps in the network.
[12:33] <blackflow> slipttees: those packages aren't relevant any more
[12:34] <blackflow> ExeciN: ubuntu "desktop" and "server" differ only in which packages are installed
[12:34] <blackflow> there are ubunbu-minimal, ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-server, ubuntu-desktop (and I'm probably forgetting some)   packages that are convenience packages with dependencies that quickly installed the desired role
[12:35] <blackflow> *ubuntu-minimal
[12:36] <ExeciN> yeah the reason I'm asking is because I don't want to experiment
[12:36] <ExeciN> I don't have ubuntu on the vps right now
[12:36] <blackflow> ExeciN: then what do you mean by "match the rest of the vps" ?
[12:36] <ExeciN> vps runs on CentOS 7
[12:36] <blackflow> so you want ubuntu server vps to match centos 7 vps?
[12:37] <ExeciN> blackflow: I have some other vps that are using ubuntu and I'd like to use some "broadcast input to all tabs" hacks to cut some road
[12:37] <blackflow> I'm assuming you mean "match" as in what packages are installed. That you cannot do, the distros have different lists and dependencies they install for those roles.
[12:38] <blackflow> but you sure can have same services, more or less, though they're not package-by-package identical between distros
[12:38] <blackflow> services, functions, applications, ...
[12:38] <ExeciN> for example if I sent apt install abcxyz on all servers, the one with centos won't like it
[12:39] <blackflow> right, distros have different package names too
[12:39] <ExeciN> I know. the rest of the servers are on ubuntu server 16.04 lts
[12:41] <alanic> I have 3 disks. Can I install Ubuntu on disk 1 and then merge disk 2 and disk 3 into one using LVM?
[12:42] <ExeciN> Its not that I can't find my way through CentOS. I actually love it. its just that its easier to work with 5 servers that live on the same OS rather than having 2 kinds of OS
[12:43] <alanic> can I have a group of disks as one disk in lvm, and have another separate physical disk that is not in lvm?
[12:43] <alanic> (to rephrase my question)
[13:02] <dsc_> blackflow: hah, old-releases.ubuntu.com worked
[13:07] <cores> is there a support channel for the ubuntu system in microsofts windows 10 wsl?
[13:07] <cores> other than microsoft
[13:07] <cores> they have an issue tracker but the response time isn't always the best
[13:08] <tomreyn> cores: there is #ubuntu-on-windows
[13:08] <CrazySane> I've been underwhelmed by it. I still just use Bitvise to shell into a ubuntu box from Windows. XD
[13:11] <eoh293> My 16.04 LTS server keeps dropping its IPv4 address after about 24h of uptime. The IPv6 is fine, and everything was working fine for months. Any idea how I can figure out what causes this?
[13:11] <blackflow> dsc_: good to know :)
[13:12] <tomreyn> eoh293: check your logs. it could be a dhcp issue.
[13:12] <CrazySane> Sounds like DHCP to me
[13:12] <CrazySane> What fixes the problem?
[13:12] <Southern_Gentlem> check the lease time in your routor
[13:13] <tomreyn> first of all, find out what the problem is, i.e. chekc logs.
[13:13] <eoh293> tomreyn: The logs look fine, no indication of DHCP problems. Then, out of nowhere, avahi-daemon complains about registering and withdrawing addresses, and whoopsie says “Cannot reach: https://daisy.ubuntu.com”
[13:13] <cores> tomreyn, thanks
[13:14] <eoh293> Btw, I think it’s a bug that daisy.ubuntu.com does not have an IPv6
[13:15] <eoh293> (For debugging it’s immensely helpful thogh because it keeps spamming my logs once IPv4 drops)
[13:15] <CrazySane> eoh293: this seems relevant. http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal
[13:15] <tomreyn> eoh293: feel free to put some logs around the time the ip4 address is dropped on a pastebin
[13:15] <eoh293> URL gives 404 over here
[13:15] <CrazySane> damnit
[13:15] <CrazySane> https://askubuntu.com/questions/718653/avahi-daemon-repeatedly-registers-withdraws-address-record-causing-network-failu
[13:16] <CrazySane> That was the orig. article.
[13:16] <CrazySane> But it appears to relate to an old solution
[13:17] <eoh293> Yes, I read this, but I think it does not apply. To my understanding AVAHI does not actaully alter the IPv* config, it merely broadcasts them. Also, I folled the other guy’s advice in the linked thread and disabled the IPv4 annoucementin AVAHI, but still hapens
[13:17] <eoh293> happen
[13:19] <CrazySane> eoh293: is this a VM server?
[13:19] <eoh293> CrazySane: No, Intel NUC
[13:20] <CrazySane> eoh293: does this post from a few weeks ago shed any light: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/1586528/comments/16
[13:20] <eoh293> Here is a log around the time it happens:
[13:20] <eoh293> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25088891/
[13:22] <eoh293> CrazySane: Yes, that’s exactly the one I saw regarding AVAHI being the symptom, not the issue.
[13:22] <eoh293> I went through the logs and didn’t saw any message about DHCP, nor on my router.
[13:22] <eoh293> Also, it has been working fine for 8 weeks in a row before.
[13:22] <tomreyn> eoh293: what makes you think it looses its ipv4 address there?
[13:22] <eoh293> Now it happens regularly.
[13:24] <eoh293> tomreyn: The logs look perfectly fine before. Somewhere around that time it then starts flooding the logs with “Cannot reach: https://daisy.ubuntu.com”. At the same time, if I “ifconfig”, the IPv4 is gone. The IPv6 is still around.
[13:25] <tomreyn> eoh293: if it's unable to reach https://daisy.ubuntu.com this could be due to dns issues, due to routing issues, due to server side issues. and also because oyur nic lost it's ipv4, yes, but the logs don't show any indication of this happening.
[13:26] <eoh293> tomreyn: As I said, best indicator is “ifconfig” doesn’t show the IPv4 part anymore.
[13:26] <tomreyn> yes, that's weird indeed.
[13:26] <eoh293> Once i manually add it (e.g., NetworkManager) it works again
[13:27] <tomreyn> do you use nmcli then?
[13:28] <eoh293> Manually edited “/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections” and then restarted with nmcli.
[13:29] <tomreyn> is this ubuntu release (which one, actually) fully patched?
[13:29] <eoh293> How would I figure out exactly?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> eoh293, where did you set the dns nameservers when you weren't using NM?
[13:29] <eoh293> It’s 16.04.x (can’t remember x) LTS, with auto updates.
[13:30] <tomreyn> lsb_release -sd; apt-get update; apt-cache policy; apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[13:30] <eoh293> BluesKaj: I was using NM all along, but IPv4 was set to auto.
[13:30] <eoh293> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[13:31] <eoh293> I don’t dare running “dist-upgrade” (can it do something bad?) since that machine is currently 2000 km away and has a boot password ...
[13:32] <m4dh4tt4> ya no dont risk that lmfao
[13:32] <eoh293> kernel is 4.8.0-54-generic
[13:33] <compdoc> I always use dist-upgrade
[13:33] <eoh293> BluesKaj: (so the name servers were set via dhcp as well, should point to my router, which points to my ISP)
[13:33] <compdoc> its called full-upgrade now, with apt
[13:36] <JPelletier> Hello everyone, I'm experiencing a random system HANG on reboot right after GRUB. I tried to print more logs with "earlyprintk=efi" and it's freezing right after "[    0.00000] bootconsole [earlyefi0] disabled"
[13:36] <JPelletier> What else can I do to find the real cause of the issue ?
[13:36] <JPelletier> if it's hardware, kernel, bios, etc.... really out of ideas now
[13:36] <compdoc> read the SMART from the drive first
[13:37] <JPelletier> It's Ubuntu Server 17.04 but I have same issue with 16.10 and 16.04
[13:37] <compdoc> als run memtest86+
[13:37] <compdoc> also
[13:37] <JPelletier> did the mesmtest86, worked fine
[13:37] <JPelletier> Tried withh 3 differents SSD
[13:37] <compdoc> how many passes?
[13:37] <JPelletier> 2 differents RAM
[13:38] <JPelletier> Well I did the default test, don't remember the number of pass
[13:38] <compdoc> how old is the motheboard? howold the psu?
[13:38] <JPelletier> But I tried with 2GB Memory module and a 4GB memory module
[13:38] <JPelletier> 2 different computer (Intel NUC)
[13:38] <JPelletier> 2 different PSU
[13:38] <JPelletier> 2 different Monitor, 2 different HDMI cable also tried VGA
[13:39] <JPelletier> When I'm using the 2GB memory module, it will freeze after like 20-30 reboot
[13:39] <JPelletier> with 4GB memory, it's after way more reboot, like 100 reboots
[13:39] <JPelletier> Seriously, I'm desperate now
[13:40] <CrazySane> Try to keep what you're describing on fewer lines, please.
[13:40] <compdoc> any bios updates for the nucs?
[13:40] <JPelletier> CrazySane: Ok sorry. Yes Both NUC have latest BIOS from last week - Also tried to reset BIOS and set the UEFI OS to Linux
[13:41] <compdoc> ahci is enabled?
[13:41] <CrazySane> JPelletier: np. It's just easier to follow - I wish I could assist your current problem, but I'm at a loss for suggestions.
[13:41] <JPelletier> This is my Thread with all the details on Intel community: https://communities.intel.com/thread/115864
[13:42] <compdoc> are the ssds and the ram modules the same brand?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> eoh293,  I'm using static IPs on my lan without network-managerin the mix, so setting dns in set the dns nameservers in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf may or may not work with NM, but it might be worth a try.
[13:43] <JPelletier> Yes AHCI sata mode enabled. I tried with 2 differents ADATA SSD and the other one is a PNY. Memory Modules are both Kingston (recommended module for those NUC)
[13:44] <BluesKaj> eoh293, oops scuse the muddled sentencing there
[13:45] <eoh293> Thanks, but I think DNS isn’t the issue. I still get DNS queries through over v6 even when v4 is down.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> some ISPs are still blocking ipv6 if ipv4 is in use, especially on ISP supplied router/modems which can be old technology
[13:50] <BluesKaj> my pervious ISP for one
[13:50] <JPelletier> compdoc: Do you know what is executed after "[ 0.00000] bootconsole [earlyefi0] disabled" ?
[14:01] <akik> BluesKaj: why do they block it?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> akik, "not equipped to handled the traffic "
[14:07] <BluesKaj> akik, they wouldn't discuss it any further (Bell Canada) on landline dsl , think their fibre optic system is different , but it's not availble here. Tha cableco offers fibre optic speed internet , but it's too expensive
[14:08] <akik> BluesKaj: ok i've only used ipv6 tunnels and the anycast address or whatever it's called
[14:09] <akik> 192.88.99.1
[14:11] <BluesKaj> due to long distance networks here, high speed internet can be quite expensive and IPv6 is barely mentioned at all
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> im working on a lenovo B70 that has some flickering on ubuntu 16.04.2 on both unity and ubuntu-gnome with a haswell-ULT integrated graphics, driver=i915 anything i can try?
[14:52] <JPelletier> lotuspsychje: You could try to change Grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> JPelletier: ok lemme try that
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> no dice JPelletier
[14:56] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: drivers updated and everything up to date?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: lemme doublecheck
[14:57] <JPelletier> lotuspsychje: Is it only in a specific app?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> JPelletier: no, its overall, even on the unity/gnome liveusb
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: 4.8.0-58-generic kernel
[15:00] <EriC^^> aha
[15:01] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic
[15:01] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic yakkety
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> uh?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> just downloaded xenial iso
[15:02] <EriC^^> yup i think 16.04.x gets the new yakkety one
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: same for ubuntu-gnome also downloaded 16.04.2 iso, same on liveusb
[15:03] <EriC^^> it's always an idea to try a different kernel though as it includes the driver i think
[15:04] <jellycode> Hi all.  Can anyone explain why installing this ubuntu packages is failing on Zesty, but works fine on Trusty?
[15:04] <jellycode> https://codeshare.io/G71gQL
[15:05] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356878
[15:06] <EriC^^> installing kernel 4.4 might solve the problem
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: lemme check
[15:06] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: try booting a 16.04 iso see if it works nicely
[15:12] <oquidave>  hello, am trying to delete some folder/files as root. But am surprised that I can't https://dpaste.de/GwMW . I have tead about lsattr but still I don't see 'a' or an 'i'. What could be the reason why root can't delete dir/files? Thanks
[15:13] <EriC^^> oquidave: encrypted files maybe?
[15:14] <oquidave> EriC^^: it's not. this is folder from lxc container
[15:14] <EriC^^> oquidave: yeah, hmm
[15:15] <orglce> hello. i am having a trouble figuring out how to install a package from -proposed. i would like to install this: goo.gl/KDsLB1
[15:15] <EriC^^> oquidave: what filesystem are they on?
[15:17] <oquidave> EriC^^: am trying to delete a linux lxc container https://dpaste.de/SZL2#L8 it failed. so I decided to delete the container folder mainly.
[15:18] <nacc> orglce: that version is out in zesty-updates
[15:18] <nacc> orglce: and zesty-security
[15:18] <EriC^^> oquidave: what does df ./c2 show?
[15:18] <nacc> orglce: but not zesty-proposed, as it's migrated now
[15:21] <oquidave> EriC^^: take a look ontop https://dpaste.de/H717#L1,8,12
[15:22] <EriC^^> oquidave: aha, what about "cat /proc/mounts" ?
[15:23] <theseb> Is having TWO hard drives a clean problem free way to have Windows and Linux on the same computer? (Why did folks spend so much time years ago discussing how to put boths OSes on same drive?...This solution seems so simple.)
[15:24] <Inferno_geek> You will have to change the BIOS boot order.
[15:24] <oquidave> EriC^^: updated https://dpaste.de/dF7O#L1,5,8,12
[15:24] <theseb> Inferno_geek: talking 2 me?
[15:25] <Inferno_geek> Yes, I am talking to you.
[15:26] <theseb> Inferno_geek: oh i get it....make it point to linux drive so grub can give you a choice!?
[15:27] <Inferno_geek> Then you will have to point in grub.conf where Windows bootloader is.
[15:28] <theseb> Inferno_geek: cool..thanks..is there any companies that sell prebuilt dual boot PCs with support if i'm too lazy to do the hacker work?
[15:28] <EriC^^> oquidave: try "ls -ld /var/lib/lxc/c2/rootfs"
[15:28] <orglce> hello. i have enabled proposed repository, but i have no idea how to install packages or update existing ones
[15:28] <tsarompy> dude
[15:28] <tsarompy> it takes like 30 minutes to install ubuntu
[15:28] <tsarompy> stop being lazy
[15:29] <theseb> lol
[15:29] <nacc> orglce: you seem to have ignored my point
[15:29] <nacc> orglce: you don't need proposed
[15:29] <EriC^^> oquidave: were you using btrfs or zfs with it?
[15:29] <orglce> yeah sorry. i had to restart my computer
[15:29] <theseb> i've done it for almost 20 years.....really asking more for avoiding roadblocks
[15:29] <nacc> orglce: the package you mentioned is not in proposed
[15:29] <nacc> orglce: it is in zesty-updates and zesty-security
[15:30] <orglce> oh ok. i have enabled them too.
[15:30] <orglce> should they update automatically?
[15:30] <nacc> orglce: you don't want to enable proposed generally -- unless you need to test a specific package
[15:30] <nacc> and in that case, you should pin it to lowest priority so that you are not running from proposed for everyrthing
[15:31] <orglce> yes i have read that. i just need to install that one package i linked because it fixes a but with google accounts login
[15:31] <tsarompy> besides theseb its moar fun to set it up how YOU like it as opposed to someone installing what they choose
[15:31] <tsarompy> thats how you end up with crap like lubuntu
[15:31] <oquidave> EriC^^: my host os is using ext3 fs. Am not sure what fs the linux containers are using. I suppose it's the same as the host
[15:32] <nacc> orglce: right, so disable proposed and make sure you ahve nothing from propsed installed
[15:32]  * tsarompy proud xmonad user
[15:32] <theseb> tsarompy: in all seriousness....eventually you get old enough and wealthy enough that you don't have time to fight with linux regarding device drivers, etc....call me crazy sorry...that's the deal
[15:32] <tsarompy> what devices are we talkin tho
[15:32] <orglce> ok, done that.
[15:32] <tsarompy> i go through computers like toilet paper and ubuntu never gives me issues that i cant fix
[15:33] <theseb> tsarompy: i ALWAYS get new hardware working but it sometimes takes a few days of googling to fix little glitches
[15:33] <nacc> orglce: ok `apt update; apt policy webkit2gtk` ?
[15:33] <nacc> orglce: in a pastebin
[15:33] <theseb> tsarompy: it would be nice to be able to call a help desk and let them fix it
[15:34] <tsarompy> lol
[15:34] <tsarompy> install red hat i reckon
[15:34] <orglce> nacc: what do you mean in a pastebin. i ran apt-get update, but i dont get the policy part
[15:34] <Inferno_geek> I am currently dual-booting between Windows 10 Spy and Ubuntu 17.04.  I am going to add Gentoo to the list.
[15:34] <nacc> orglce: run the exact commands i gave
[15:35] <theseb> tsarompy: i was in a linux users group for years...the sysadmins ALL used Macs!
[15:35] <nacc> !pastebin | orglce
[15:35] <theseb> tsarompy: after a whole day of fighting they didn't want to fight when they got home...that's the deal
[15:35] <orglce> nacc: oh ok, i didnt put sudo
[15:36] <orglce> nacc: Unable to locate package webkit2gtk
[15:36] <nacc> orglce: you don't need sudo for `apt policy`
[15:36] <nacc> orglce: oh sorry, you didn't sudo the apt update, i see
[15:37] <orglce> no problem. it says that webkit2gtk cannot be found
[15:37] <nacc> orglce: oh sorry, `apt policy libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37`
[15:37] <orglce> nacc: but apt update did scan zesty-updates and zesty-security
[15:38] <oquidave> EriC^^: ls -ld gives drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 Jul 14 17:55 /var/lib/lxc/c2/rootfs/
[15:39] <EriC^^> oquidave: aha, ok nevermind
[15:39] <EriC^^> oquidave: does this help at all? https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/having-trouble-deleting-container-in-4-2.28577/
[15:40] <orglce> nacc: https://pastebin.com/raw/FVyEZqGx
[15:40] <EriC^^> the part about "pct destroy <some id>" at the bottom
[15:40] <nacc> orglce: right, so you haven't run `sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade` then
[15:40] <nacc> orglce: you just haven't upgraded -- update doesn't do upgrades, it just refreshes the indexes
[15:41] <orglce> nacc: oh, i see. its doing the upgrade now. then i just restart and it should work?
[15:41] <orglce> nacc: should be installed*
[15:43] <nacc> orglce: yes.
[15:44] <orglce> nacc: thank you very much for your help. :)
[15:45] <tsarompy> :3
[15:46] <oquidave> EriC^^: looks like proxmos specific solution. Anyways thanks. Let me dig deepeer, there must be a way
[15:46] <EriC^^> oquidave: ok :)
[15:47] <nacc> orglce: yw
[15:51] <roy__> whats the difference between sudo -i and su ?
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | roy__
[15:53] <Inferno_geek> !pkexec
[16:00] <orglce> nacc: the package fixed the issue. thanks
[16:01] <sgen> Hi, Im trying to create a debian package with `debuild -us -uc` as per https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging/Intro?action=show&redirect=IntroDebianPackaging but Im getting this error: 'This package has a Debian revision number but there does not seem to be an appropriate original tar file or .orig directory in the parent directory;(expected one of test-deb-package_0.1.orig.tar.gz, test-deb-package_0.1.orig.tar.bz2,test-deb-package_0.1.orig.tar.lz
[16:01] <sgen> ma,  test-deb-package_0.1.orig.tar.xz or dst.orig)'
[16:01] <sgen> the package source is tarballed at /test-deb-package_0.1.orig.tar.gz
[16:01] <sgen> So Im not sure why it cant find it
[16:02] <nacc> sgen: / ?
[16:02] <sgen> ./*
[16:02] <nacc> sgen: it needs to be in the immediately parent directory
[16:02] <nacc> sgen: as that error says
[16:02] <sgen> the immediate parent of the debian folder?
[16:02] <sgen> because that is where it is thus my confusion
[16:02] <nacc> sgen: of the directory where you run debuild (dpkg-buildpackage really) from
[16:03] <sgen> ah
[16:03] <nacc> sgen: you should not be in the debian/ directory when running that command
[16:04] <sgen> ok so I have a dst folder in my repo for the package with the debian folder in that, the orignal tarbal needs to be in the parent directory of the dst folder (where Im running debuild from)?
[16:04] <yabuk> hello
[16:04] <sgen> I think that works thanks!
[16:05] <nacc> sgen: yes
[16:05] <yabuk> there is a shortcut to see all worksapces to choose one of it?
[16:05] <sgen> nacc: That fixed it thanks!
[16:17] <Trioxin> why do I keep getting "RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address" https://hastebin.com/awezofalem.nginx
[16:19] <ubernets> I can't get my computer to show the (cryptsetup?) login for my encrypted disk. I tried different names in crypttab, (one I used when formatting the disk, and standard luks_<uuid> one) and used /dev/mapper/... and UUID in fstab. Currently I get "lvmetad is not active" error on boot, even before I get asked for a decryption password.
[16:20] <ubernets> Always running intramfs and grub-install and grub-mkconfig after changing crypttab and fstab
[16:22] <tomreyn> "lvmetad is not active" is just a warning, to be expecte don 16.04
[16:22] <tomreyn> i.e. ignore this for now.
[16:28] <tomreyn> ubernets: /etc/crypttab needs to contain the UUID of the lower layer block device. i.e. if you've got a raid device which contains the dmcrypt-luks layer, you'd provide the raid devices' UUID there.
[16:28] <tomreyn> if oyu dont have raid then it's probably a the uuid of a partition
[16:41] <Guido_> Hello, How can I replace the home directory with another one? (I'm doing a clean install, but want to keep the mails from Thunderbird and other files from programs)
[16:41] <EriC^^> Guido_: is it the same ubuntu release?
[16:41] <EriC^^> (14.04 16.04 etc)
[16:42] <Guido_> should be - Both are Xubuntu. Just updated the old install. The old install has some issues so.
[16:42] <Richard_Cavell> Guido_: For some reason when I read your question I thought of that guy who wants a head transplant
[16:43] <Guido_> I'm changing from an HDD to an SSD
[16:44] <EriC^^> Guido_: sudo cp -a /path/to/old/home/user /home    should get you there if the username's are the same
[16:44] <EriC^^> if the uid is different for some reason then you'll need to sudo chown -R $USER: /home/user
[16:45] <ubernets> tomreyn, yes I used the UUID of the partition, partition 6 which is luks encrypted containing the volumes
[16:46] <ubernets> I can open it manually from the live CD and it will show the volumes. But it just doesn't come up on boot from grub
[16:47] <EriC^^> ubernets: can you restate your whole problem overall again please?
[16:48] <ubernets> This is a UEFI install. I don't know if that has something to do with it
[16:48] <Guido_> Thanks EriC^^. It should be the same. Only have to whatsh out with captials by the new install. How would be the command if it is different? Are there also things in the home directorywhich I might not want to coppy? (Wireles is not working on the old install, but is on the live CD)
[16:48] <ubernets> I can't get my computer to show the (cryptsetup?) login for my encrypted disk. I tried different names in crypttab, (one I used when formatting the disk, and standard luks_<uuid> one) and used /dev/mapper/... and UUID in fstab. Currently I get "lvmetad is not active" error on boot, even before I get asked for a decryption password.
[16:48] <ubernets> Always running intramfs and grub-install and grub-mkconfig after changing crypttab and fstab
[16:48] <ubernets> EriC^^, that's the problem restated
[16:50] <EriC^^> Guido_: you can use "rsync -av /path/to/home/user/ /home/User"   (the trailing "/" after user will copy contents including hidden files, i guess if it's the same version of ubuntu hidden files and configs shouldn't be an issue, you can copy them all)
[16:50] <ubernets> Actually I should mention I also get some firmware warnings on update-initramfs
[16:52] <Guido_> EricC^^ There are some confic issues with the old install. (On the old wireless is not working)
[16:53] <EriC^^> ubernets: can you type "(cat /etc/fstab /etc/default/grub /etc/crypttab; sudo blkid) | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here?
[16:53] <ubernets> EriC^^, something else that happens in the live CD, if I try to open the encrypted drive from the desktop it shows an error "Error unlocking ... luks-<uuid>. no key available with this passphrase." When I click close, it succeeds in opening the drive.
[16:53] <Guido_> My aim is to keep Thunderbird, Darktable, Teamvieuwer, ... with everything, but on a clean Xubuntu
[16:54] <ubernets> EriC^^, originally I encrypted the drive using luksFormat and chose a name xubu-crypt, not the luks-<uuid> thing.
[16:54] <EriC^^> Guido_: it might have been kernel or system-wide related most likely, it's not a big deal you can always create a fresh user and copy the configs without any network manager ones
[16:57] <Guido_> EriC^^: Asking because if the hidden files and not sure what except of this programs is stored in the home folder. In the moment I have quite some trouble (old HDD is failin)
[16:59] <EriC^^> ubernets: i see, i don't know a lot about encryption to be honest, i'm hoping i can spot something wrong in those files
[17:01] <EriC^^> Guido_: aha, try to copy the files (not move) and see how it goes, i think you'll be ok
[17:02] <EriC^^> Guido_: you can't really mess it up. If it gets messed up you can create a new fresh user and hand pick what you want to copy from the configs.
[17:02] <Guido_> EriC^^: How does that change the comment?
[17:03] <EriC^^> Guido_: it doesn't. Use the last one that has starts with sudo rsync and put your own paths in it
[17:04] <Guido_> okee, thought it was maybe the move versiob
[17:05] <tomreyn> ubernets: for the future, try not to use hyphons in device names, they can complicate matters (but this does not actually break things). i think more output from your end is needed if you are trying to actually get help.
[17:06] <Guido_> EriC^^: And how can I move it to a different partition? Does that make sens? Will there be problems, if Windows can see it?
[17:07] <EriC^^> Guido_: it should already be on a partition that windows can't access by default.
[17:08] <EriC^^> Guido_: if the data is important to you, i'd make backups of it on a different device or ext hdd, preferably in multiple physical locations, if you're up for that
[17:09] <Guido_> EriC^^: Yes, it is. As the home directory also contains all mails and automatic backups from libreoffice, it is growing. Therefore I was thinking to put it in the comone data partition. That would also allow me to back it up and clean it together with the other data.
[17:14] <EriC^^> Guido_: is the data partition a linux filesystem or windows one?
[17:16] <Guido_> windows one
[17:16] <Guido_> NTFS
[17:17] <EriC^^> Guido_: i think it's better if the home dir is on a linux one, you can copy them every once in a while or use a script that copies stuff for you if you want
[17:18] <Guido_> EriC^^: That allows me to access my thesis, to do list etc. from linux as well as from Windows. Okee. then I will leave the home directory on the Linux system partition
[17:19] <EriC^^> Guido_: the nice thing about rsync is that it only copies files that have been modified
[17:20] <EriC^^> it also checksums them so you know they copied correctly, that can be disabled if you want though.
[17:20] <Guido_> Does it look at the date or just if it is different? Does it also coppy files which are not in the new home directory?
[17:21] <EriC^^> Guido_: it looks at the date, yeah it does.
[17:21] <EriC^^> it can exclude certain dirs too if they don't matter, for instance browser cache
[17:21] <Guido_> But then the old install is older compared to the fresh install. All the mails and account settings are on the old system
[17:22] <EriC^^> that's an interesting point, i've never thought about that, hmm
[17:24] <Guido_> so maybe another command?
[17:24] <arooni> whats the best way to share files from ubuntu ==> mac
[17:24] <EriC^^> Guido_: the man page says it looks for files that have changed in size or last-modified time btw, but still it could miss some files, yeah probably an argument to force it to copy everything no matter what
[17:25] <EriC^^> Guido_: rsync -avI should copy everything
[17:27] <Guido_> EriC^^: So  "sudo rsync -avI /path/to/home/user/ /home/User"
[17:27] <EriC^^> Guido_: yup, that should do it.
[17:28] <Guido_> Okee, will try it. First copy Windows and data and then do the fresh Linux install with everything.
[17:28] <Guido_> Thanks :)
[17:28] <EriC^^> Guido_: ok, no problem :)
[17:31] <ExeciN> I'm trying to manage a cluster of 4 servers. Everything is fine except that 1 server that always falls 41 seconds behind
[17:32] <ExeciN> I don't know how that could happen, they use the same ntp.conf, I try synching it on demand yet it somehow manages to be 41 seconds behind
[17:32] <ExeciN> am I missing something?
[17:49] <thyriaen> how can i disable the hdmi audio controller and leave my Soundcard / onboard sound working ? I tryed to blacklist snd_hda_intel but that leaves me with no sound at all - i got the following devices: https://hastebin.com/vaditadozo.pl
[17:58] <glitsj16> thyriaen: have you tried using pavucontrol GUI yet? Under the 'Configuration' tab you can set HDMI profile to 'Off'
[17:59] <jspaceman> could really use some assistance with installing ubuntu onto a win7 laptop...want win7 removed completely in the process
[18:04] <nacc> jspaceman: boot a live usb -- install ubuntu?
[18:05] <jspaceman> first time doing this...have usb flash drive ready.  isnt there an f8 button or something to hold during a restart to boot from usb?
[18:05] <thyriaen> glitsj16, will throw in a quick reboot to enable those devices again and ill give that a shot - brb
[18:05] <nacc> jspaceman: depends on your machine
[18:07] <sary> jspaceman: before you remove windows , please make sure wifi is enabled and the wifi switch/key is On..
[18:10] <nacc> jspaceman: usually, you should be able to boot into BIOS and flip it to pick USB or something
[18:13] <thyriaen> glitsj16, thanks worked wonderfully :)
[18:13] <nacc> jspaceman: please keep it in the channel
[18:14] <glitsj16> thyriaen: you're welcome :)
[18:14] <nacc> jspaceman: use the live usb and see if your laptop works
[18:24] <SchrodingersScat> jspaceman: some machines it's the escape key, others it's f12, etc.  if it doesn't mention which one on a boot screen then I normally mash all of them.
[18:25] <jspaceman> thanks
[18:32] <djapo> hello im using ubuntu and my locales package doesn't have locale-gen
[18:38] <Jordan_U> djapo: Please pastebin the output of "apt policy locales", "dpkg -L locales" and "ls -l /usr/sbin/locale-gen".
[18:39] <KeyWeeUsr> hi guys! is there any way to get what flags was a package configured and compiled with on packages.ubuntu.com?
[18:40] <KeyWeeUsr> for example: https://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/libsdl2-2.0-0 any special configure flags used in there?
[18:44] <Jordan_U> KeyWeeUsr: "apt source packagename" will download the source package to your current directory. Then look at debian/rules .
[18:44] <djapo> Jordan_U: i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales but i still don't see my locale update
[18:45] <KeyWeeUsr> Jordan_U, thanks! :)
[18:49] <Jordan_U> KeyWeeUsr: You're welcome.
[18:50] <djapo> Jordan_U: i don't have locale-gen
[18:51] <arparp> Hello
[18:53] <sary> djapo: what does $ apt-cache policy locales , returns!
[18:55] <djapo> i think i just figured it out , just had to do sudo update-locale
[18:57] <djapo> yup that fixed it
[19:02] <arparp> I spent like 20 minutes in the room thats for unregistered users
[19:03]  * arparp shouts loudly.
[19:03] <arparp> Hello!
[19:03] <Jordan_U> arparp: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[19:03] <sary> arparp: you are voiced in the channel .. ask your question or state the issue!
[19:04] <arparp> I only want to know how to access sources in Ubuntu.
[19:04] <sary> what sources ..
[19:04] <arparp> To be specific not sources as in apt-get update sources, source codes.
[19:05] <arparp> Say I wanted to mess with Sudoku's source code, where would I find it???
[19:06] <Jordan_U> arparp: "apt source packagename" will download the source package and unpack it into your current directory.
[19:06] <arparp> okay great
[19:06] <arparp> but then is there a good way of understanding the huge list of files?
[19:07] <arparp> I'm just looking for a slight hint to get me started.
[19:08] <jonfatino> Hello my ubuntu livecd for some reason is only running my cpus at 800mhz
[19:08] <jonfatino> echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[19:08] <jonfatino> but the cpu mhz doesn't change yet
[19:08] <ioria> arparp, gnome-sudoku it's a python script afaik
[19:12] <henryw> anyone building cloud with ubuntu openstack?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> .0.
[19:20] <henryw> hello
[19:21] <leftyfb> henryw: are you conducting a survey?
[19:21] <henryw> no
[19:21] <henryw> why
[19:21] <leftyfb> because you're asking if "anyone building cloud with ubuntu openstack"
[19:21] <leftyfb> what's the point of getting a list of people?
[19:22] <henryw> ah
[19:22] <henryw> because i am building one for first time and running into issues.
[19:22] <sary> jonfatino: what does $ /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/bios_limit , returns!
[19:23] <leftyfb> henryw: then why are you asking for a list of people who are building one? You should be stating your issue and explaining symptoms and errors
[19:24] <henryw> ah alright, first time in this channel
[19:25] <sary> jonfatino: i meant $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/bios_limit .
[19:29] <henryw> just got ubuntu/maas/landscape/openstack installed using autopilot. created a test VM in horizon dashboard.  created a test volume and want to attach it to the VM.  The status just changes from attaching then back to available.  Not sure why it's not working.
[19:29] <jonfatino> root@debian:~# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/bios_limit
[19:29] <jonfatino> 3401000
[19:31] <leftyfb> henryw: to be honest, that sounds more like an #openstack issue as opposed to #ubuntu
[19:33] <henryw> ok i'll try #openstack.  thought i start here because i used autopilot which just automated everything.  not really sure what went on in the backend.
[19:46] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:54] <minasota> o/
[19:55] <sebsebseb> minasota: `hi
[19:55] <minasota> What's your question sebsebseb
[19:55] <sebsebseb> minasota: uh no I am here to help possibly
[19:55] <sebsebseb> if there is something
[19:56] <minasota> Stick around, it doesn't stay quite for long. Good luck!
[19:56] <henryw_> anyone using ubuntu cloud solutions?  I just got openstack installed using their solution but running into issues in horizon.
[19:57] <henryw_> i.e. attaching a vol. to a VM fails.
[19:57] <minasota> no help in #openstack ?
[19:58] <henryw_> not really. in both channels.
[20:01] <minasota> No bugs that you know of with horizon or openstack?
[20:05] <henryw_> not that i know of for attaching volumes.  ran into a known issue creating my first instance but afterwards ran into this when trying to attach a vol.
[20:06] <henryw_> just test driving the install at this point.
[20:13] <tim167> hi, can I make a partition bigger with gparted? It seems I can only make it smaller... there is plenty unallocated space on the disk...
[20:15] <tomreyn> tim167: you can extend partitions if there is adjacent unallocated space and, if using an msdos partition table, there are available 'slots' in the primary or extended area.
[20:16] <tim167> tomreyn, there is linux-swap partition right next to it, but I'm not sure how to move it in order to make adjacent unallocated space for the ext4 partition
[20:16] <tomreyn> tim167: also, do not try to modify partitions on the storage the current Os is running from. crate complete backups before making any such modifications
[20:17] <tim167> tomreyn, yes, it _is_ a backup image of my os I'm trying this on
[20:17] <tim167> tomreyn, I made an image of my system on a larger disk, but now I still have to figure out how to make the /dev/sda partition on that bigger, in order to actually use the space
[20:18] <tomreyn> show a screen shot or textual output from a utility such as parted, sgdisk
[20:18] <tomreyn>  /dev/sda is a drive, not a partition
[20:19] <tim167> tomreyn, https://imagebin.ca/v/3TNXjN9pEods
[20:20] <tim167> sorry, I mean /dev/sdb1
[20:20] <tim167> tomreyn, which is an image of my original /dev/sda1
[20:22] <nbusrone> I need help on this thread regarding with external hard enclosure not able to detect SMART health on ubuntu but fine on windows. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365802 .Posted 4 days with only 1 view with no reply ? weird though .Thanks guys :)
[20:22] <tomreyn> tim167: so you only want to increase the size of sdb1, right?
[20:23] <tim167> tomreyn, yes
[20:24] <tim167> tomreyn, but I'm not sure moving the swap partition /dev/sdb2 and /dev/sdb5  is supposed to be done, I tried with the resize/move option, but it looks wierd
[20:25] <tomreyn> tim167: my explanation may bewrong since i haven't done this in a while: first, see if you can move sdb2 to the end of the available (unallocated) storage area on sdb, so that the grey area will be between sdb1 and sdb2. then you need to resize sdb1.
[20:27] <tim167> tomreyn, ok I think I figured it out, thanks for your help!
[20:27] <tomreyn> tim167: if what i just suggested does not work out, you can still delete sdb2 and sdb5, resize sda, and recreate sdb2 (extended area) and sdb5 (first partition in extended area). or you could just create sdb2 as a primary parition.
[20:27] <tomreyn> typo: sda -> sda1
[20:28] <tim167> tomreyn, the tricky part was that I had to resize sdb2 first, then move sdb5 and then resize sdb2 again to align its start with the start of sdb5...
[20:28] <curvy_driftwood> anyone know how to fix the "qtbase-opensource-src" package missing from ubuntu 16.04. I'm trying to install konsole, but am getting an unmet dependencies error.
[20:29] <tim167> tomreyn, will now try and see if it boots alright... bye :)
[20:30] <tomreyn> tim167: okay, i wondered whether this might be needed. i suggest you switch to gpt for the next installation. it's also a bit cumbersome as long as you are not used to it, but once you are, you will like it better than msdos partition tables (which are very unflexible). there is also LVM to help with these issues of moving partitions around.
[20:30] <tomreyn> oh, gone
[20:30] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: how are you trying to install koonsole, and where form?
[20:31] <curvy_driftwood> from the command line, via apt-get install konsole
[20:32] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: the ubuntu 'konsole' package on ubuntu 16.04 does not depend on the package you mention. you must be using a third party repository which provides an unsupported konsole build.
[20:32] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: 'apt-cache policy konsole' will tell where it's triyng to install fomr
[20:32] <tomreyn> *from
[20:33] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages
[20:35] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: please show the output of "sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy konsole; sudo apt-get -syV install konsole'
[20:35] <tomreyn> !pastebin | curvy_driftwood
[20:37] <tsarompy> hai #ubuntu :)
[20:37] <jmg8766> when I try to connect to my bluetooth speaker with "bt-audio -c xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" the speaker beeps, then the program prints out "org.bluez.Error.Failed: Connect Failed" in 14.04
[20:37] <omber> Fun problem: whenever I reboot, my displays are overlapping. I know the cause but not the solution. One of my displays fails checksum when sending EDID info to X. So I had to disable EDIDCheckSum check on that display in Xorg.conf. For some reason this info is not applied at startup though so the display is read as 800x600 (even though its displaying at 2560x1600).
[20:38] <omber> This makes second display (another 2560x1600) "overlap" it
[20:38] <omber> I guess the question is this: how can I manually specify placement of Xdisplay outputs in Ubuntu?
[20:42] <curvy_driftwood> tomryen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25091332/
[20:47] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: have you modified /etc/apt/apt.conf or /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* or /etc/apt/preferences or /etc/apt/preferences.d/ ?
[20:48] <curvy_driftwood> Possibly, although I don't recall having done so.
[20:48] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: is any error or warning reported when you run 'sudo apt-get -f install'? do you have pending upgrades ('sudo apt-get -V dist-upgrade')?
[20:50] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: no errors with 'apt-get -f install' and no pending upgrades
[20:52] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: the output you posted on the pastebin did not mention that a package "qtbase-opensource-src" was missing, even though we simulated installing the 'konsole' package. can you run 'sudo apt-get install konsole' and paste the output to pastebin?
[20:55] <yokowka> hello everyone. what is this?: Unknown command 'source'   error:no such device:.disk/casper-uuid. grub rescue>
[20:56] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: when I tried installing the missing dependencies, I kept going until I reached a package that could not be found. And qtbase should contain that package. Here's the output of 'apt-get install konsole' http://paste.ubuntu.com/25091433/
[20:57] <yokowka>  Unknown command 'source'   error:no such device:.disk/casper-uuid. grub rescue>    - how to make chroot? who can help?
[21:00] <tomreyn> !info konsole-kpart 16.04
[21:00] <tomreyn> !info konsole-kpart 1xenial
[21:01] <tomreyn> sorry :/
[21:04] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: I noticed I'm also unable to install qtbase5-dev and libgles2-dev, so I think I messed up my sources somewhere
[21:04] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: I've tried resetting my sources.list as well, but that didn't help
[21:05] <yokowka>  Unknown command 'source'   error:no such device:.disk/casper-uuid. grub rescue>    - how to make chroot? who can help?
[21:07] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: yes, i was also thinking it would have to be about your apt sources, but other than you are pulling security updates from archive.ubuntu.com but should be using security.ubuntu.com what you have seems to match my sources.list (also running 16.04) and i could install konsole just fine.
[21:08] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: so i suspect oyu have outdated, untracked packages, and i use this script to identify those: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/foreign_packages
[21:09] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: That script didn't find any outdated or untracked packages
[21:12] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: hmm then the only thing i can think of is to remove the package lists and get them fresh: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/*; sudo apt-get update
[21:13] <tomreyn> also fix the security archive, this could also be why
[21:13] <dnemcanin>    quit
[21:15] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: No luck fixing the security archive and getting new package lists
[21:16] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: still same error
[21:16] <tomreyn> did you apt-get update after updating the xenial-security URLs?
[21:16] <curvy_driftwood> yea
[21:17] <tsarompy> did u try unplugging it and plugging it back in
[21:18] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: hmm, i'm at a loss, we must have missed something along the way then, but i can't think of what it is. i suggest you repeat the question and have someone else look at it with a fresh perspective.
[21:19] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: so am I, it seems to be missing a source from somewhere, as it can't find libkf5 libs
[21:19] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: so 'apt-cache policy libkf5configwidgets5' does not know where to get it?
[21:20] <tomreyn> or not in version >= 4.96.0
[21:21] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: well it returns '500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages' is the500 the http response code?
[21:21] <tomreyn> here, it would install libkf5configwidgets5 (5.18.0-0ubuntu1)
[21:21] <tomreyn> 500 is the priority for this package
[21:21] <tomreyn> which version would it install (Candidate)?
[21:22] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: 5.18.0-0ubuntu1
[21:23] <tomreyn> so it has the package available, it just doesn't think it should install it. can you pastebin "apt-config dump"?
[21:24] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: i went down the dependency path, and one of the required packages is 'qtbase-abi-5-5-1' which doesn't have an installation candidate on my machine
[21:25] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: here is the output of 'apt-config dump' https://paste.ubuntu.com/25091563/
[21:25] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: so somewhere in your dependency tree you got a package with a higher version from one of your PPAs
[21:26] <tomreyn> which depends on a package you dont have, effectively breaking things.
[21:26] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: is there any way to check that?
[21:29] <Zoohouse> Hello all. I have no idea why my screen turns off on my laptop after about 60 seconds of inactivity.. I turned off "Blank Screen" from the power management box (http://imgur.com/a/BQFEI) and I can't see what other place I would have to look to fix this. It's quite annoying looking over my code and having the screen turn off after a few seconds... Using GNOME on a System76 laptop
[21:34] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: did you not say you already found out manually? i'm not aware of a uility which follows the dependency tree for a given candidate package and lists the versions  and apt sources it would install each of these dependencies from.
[21:35] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: there is "apt-cache depends <packagename>", there is apt-rdepends, and there is debtree.
[21:37] <sleepster> I am on 16.04 and I've been having this really weird USB issue where my USB devices will come and go. when I do: "lsusb", the machine hangs forever
[21:37] <sleepster> not sure if this is a kernel issue
[21:37] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: 'apt-rdepends --print-state konsole' gets somewhat close
[21:40] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: I see the 'qtbase-abi' is from 'libqt5core5a' which I have installed, but I'm not sure why it's not working. Do you know of anyway I could just remove all of the libkf5, and reinstall it?
[21:44] <arifuzzaman> Hi, I update my system (16.04.2) after every few days. A few days ago, after updating & upgrading I saw some error message regarding to some package named 'apport'. Assuming I don't need it, I ran autoremove to get rid of that package for good. Now I am trying to install mysql-server. But I get a similar error msg (I don't remember exactly what was for 'apport'). What to do now? error msg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25091673/
[21:49] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: the packages listed in the line before urls in this output need to be inspected:  apt-rdepends konsole | awk '/^  Depends:/ {print $2}' | sort | uniq | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -Ev '(^  (Installed|Candidate|Version table):|^ (\*\*\*|   ) [0-9]|(archive|security)\.ubuntu\.com|/var/lib/dpkg/status)'
[21:51] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: i suggest you ppa-purge your PPAs which provide problematic packages.
[21:53] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: you have incompatible third party packages installed.
[21:54] <arifuzzaman> tomreyn: would you kindly tell me what to do in detail. I don't know much about the unix systems.
[21:54] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: apport is a package to send bug reports tro launchpad / canonical. it helps ubuntu developers learn about common problems.
[21:55] <glitsj16> Zoohouse: what does 'gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay' report? I never found any rationale or info on it, but you can try setting it to 0 (zero) to fix the blanking issue
[21:56] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: find out what "BitMeter_Capture_Daemon" and "youtrack" services are, which packages provide them, if you need them, and if not, which apt repository provides them, and consider to run 'ppa-purge' against these APT repositories if you don't need them.
[21:57] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: is this a system you manage, and you have managed in the past?
[21:57] <Zoohouse> glitsj16, It reported: uint32 0
[21:58] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: that command didn't produce any urls
[21:58] <glitsj16> Zoohouse: ah, so it's already the correct setting afaik.. would have too easy i guess.. Do you have gnome-screensaver running?
[21:59] <glitsj16> s/too/been too
[21:59] <chatumao> need to get the device name of a file. file is a symlink, i want the device the symlink is on not what it is pointing too. df does not seem to have any options in that regard..
[21:59] <Zoohouse> glitsj16, I don't think so but I'm checking now
[21:59] <tomreyn> curvy_driftwood: okay, it does for me, i guess i must have missed something then. you can remove anything after "xargs apt-cache policy" and just pipi it into 'less' and go through the output yourself, looking for URLs not pointing to the official ubuntu repositories.
[22:00] <tomreyn> pipi -> piping ;)
[22:00] <glitsj16> never pipi in your ubuntu
[22:02] <Zoohouse> glitsj16, I think the issue might have been in gnome-system-setting. It had log off after 1minute of idle. Changed it to never. Hope that fixes it! :) Thanks
[22:02] <glitsj16> Zoohouse: nice find :)
[22:02] <arifuzzaman> tomreyn: I installed BitMeter for monitoring speed of my Internet connection and I tried to install 'YouTrack' once. Both of the packages use some network port on the IP of my local machine. But I don't really need them... and I was a Windows user. I am using Ubuntu for almost 3 months though I have used Ubuntu sometimes earlier.  Should I uninstall those two packages by `sudo apt autoremove 'package_name'` ?
[22:04] <chatumao> [connection interrupted] need to get the device name of a file. file is a symlink, i want the device the symlink is on not what it is pointing too. df does not seem to have any options in that regard..
[22:04] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: since you're somewhat new to ubuntu and linux in general, i would very much recommend not to install unsupported packages for now. instead, for a software you would like to install, try to find an alternative software which provides similar functionality. often you will find similar (and better) software is already available from supported / official repositories.
[22:05] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: how did you install those softwares?
[22:07] <arifuzzaman> YouTrack (.jar) is project management software by intelliJ that I tried to run as a service. And I installed BitMeter fom a .zip file.
[22:10] <curvy_driftwood> tomreyn: unless I'm missing something, all the sources point to the ubuntu repositories
[22:11] <tomreyn> chatumao: 'df /path/to/symlink' will return the mount the symlink is stored on. 'findmnt' will return all mounted file systems and the block devices they are stored on.
[22:13] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: well that's not how you should install software on ubuntu, especially not during the first three months. use packages from official repositories only ,maybe some PPAs after checking the individual packages in them and making sure they don't hget in the way (if you don't know what i'm talking about, don't use PPAs).
[22:14] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: you can also safely place and run some scripts in your (or a different users') home directory, of course.
 i have two files on /dev/sda2: test and test2. test is a symlink to a file on sda1. df test gives e /dev/sda1, df test2 gives me /dev/sda2
[22:15] <arifuzzaman> tomreyn: Thanks for advice. :) What to do now. I need mysql-server. But I can live without those two. How to remove them? Using `sudo apt autoremove 'name'` ?
[22:16] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: since you installed these (and mabe other?) software in an unconventional way you may well have broken much of the system's normal operation by doing so. and i would recommend to reinstall and start fresh.
[22:17] <chatumao> another way to solve my problem: how do i get the device name if i have the device number, returned by stat -c%d ?
[22:17] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: the problem is you did not install this software using apt, if you havbe, removal would be easy, since apt would have tracked where each file is placed (and other things). but you placed files somewhere on your file system, making it basically impossible to clean it up entirely.
[22:18] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: i.e. you used unsupported ways of installing software, and now we can't support you in uninstalling it.
[22:19] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: so just backup, reinstall, install mysql-server.
[22:19] <tomreyn> using apt, of course.
[22:20] <arifuzzaman> tomreyn: I don't want to reinstall the OS. :( Could you please give me some hints to understand what might have been broken?
[22:24] <Loshki> arifuzzaman: I can't help with the jar file, but do you still have the original zip file?
[22:25] <arifuzzaman> tomreyn: I know which files I have edited for that jar files. I think if I undo those changes, it would not create any problems, right? And yes I have that .zip file too.
[22:26] <arifuzzaman> Loshki: What to do?
[22:27] <Easyrider> Arifuzzman:  You should read the following before you just launch in blindly installing software.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[22:27] <DogHackit> does anyone know how to get xrdp working with lxqt?
[22:29] <DogHackit> When I trying to maka a connection to the server system, I get an ugly grey screen with a crash report, that has only grey in the content part of the box
[22:31] <Loshki> arifuzzaman: Something like "unzip -Lt <zipfile> will list all the entries in the zipfile. That might be enough for you to track down each file by hand and delete it. This assumes there wasn't any kind of additional script that you ran as part of the installation, which could have downloaded and installed something without leaving much trace. If that jarfile is an executable,  you have the same problem there also.
[22:33] <arifuzzaman> Loshki: Easyrider: Thanks I'll definitely read it. For that executable .jar, I put a startup script in `/etc/init.d/` and created a new user and put the configuration file and .jar in the home dir of that user. Now I will remove the strartup script and that user. Won't it be enough? And could `sudo locate` be used to track the files to be deleted?
[22:40] <Guy1524> I have two ubuntu PCs plugged into eachother via an ethernet cord
[22:40] <Guy1524> how I transfer files between them
[22:41] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I cannot mount usb in users :(
[22:42] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)
[22:42] <Loshki> arifuzzaman: normally, it would be enough. But there is always some risk installing software, and that risk is higher when you don't stick to software from well-known repositories. You have to decide if that's a risk worth taking e.g. are you planning to type credit card numbers into a browser running on that machine? How lucky do you feel?
[22:42] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: they are not plugged into a router, they are plugged into eachother
[22:43] <[n0mad]> via crossover cable?
[22:43] <Easyrider> Guy1524: You'll need a different patch cord if you don't connect each PC to a switch at least
[22:43] <arifuzzaman> Loshki: one more thing. How to install apport again?
[22:44] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Can not say now - not done it . Used to be that a cross over cable was required . With moderm networking may no longer be the case .
[22:45] <Easyrider> Loshki:  He claims he wants your advice but when you give it to him he ignores it.  You have more patience than anyone I know...
[22:45] <akinode> hey, can anyone tell me why the /proc directory seems to be empty when i launch the file manager with sudo nautilus in terminal?
[22:45] <Loshki> Easyrider: I do, but I won't do it twice, I assure you
[22:46] <Easyrider> :)
[22:47] <tomreyn> chatumao: actually that's an interesting question / problem, i hadn't realized that df dereferences symlinks and does not provide a way not to do so. so how about combining 'stat -c%m /path/to/symlink' with df ?
[22:49] <arifuzzaman> I guess I have made you angry. I am sorry. Thanks for help and advices.
[22:49] <chatumao> tomreyn: thx, that did it :)
[22:50] <Easyrider> arifuzzaman:  You can make your life a lot more pain free by reading that very basic and easy to understand tutorial I sent you.  Then, once you have some idea what you are doing, do a clean install and start over
[22:51] <tomreyn> chatumao: there must be a better way, but this works for me: stat -c%m /path/to/symlink | xargs df --output=source | tail -n+2
[22:51] <arifuzzaman> Easyrider: I will. Thank you so much. :)
[22:53] <chatumao> tomreyn: thx a lot, just what i needed. i'm still fresh to bash and the shell, was just about to parse a whole lot of data... really saved me some time here :)
[22:54] <tomreyn> arifuzzaman: i'm not angry, i just got distracted (sorry), but i'm also not going to go this far (to try and understand which changes may have been made to this system in an attempt to undo them).
[22:55] <arifuzzaman> tomreyn: :)
[22:55] <tomreyn> chatumao: i liked the puzzle ;)
[22:56] <Shawn|i7-720QM> permissions everywhere in my ubuntu server are screwed up :(
[22:56] <chatumao> tomreyn: i understand :)
[22:56] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I installed xfce4, it wont system restart or system shutdown, or logout
[23:03] <tomreyn> Shawn|i7-720QM: how did you install it, which ubuntu release are you running? also read the 'Description' and 'Recommends' in "apt-cache show xfce4"
[23:06] <Shawn|i7-720QM> tomreyn, I installed ubuntu server 16.04.2 LTS
[23:07] <Cobrax> Wrong channel
[23:07] <Cobrax> Go to ubuntu server
[23:07] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ._.
[23:07] <Shawn|i7-720QM> really
[23:08] <oerheks_> Shawn|i7-720QM, ignore the trolls
[23:08] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: please keep on.
[23:09] <Shawn|i7-720QM> okay
[23:09] <oerheks_> ubuntu server and xfce, right?
[23:10] <Shawn|i7-720QM> yes
[23:10] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I want to install the xfce app cahce
[23:10] <Shawn|i7-720QM> *cache
[23:12] <devster31> Hello, I'm on Ubuntu Xenial, how do I find out what process created /dev/console on boot?
[23:12] <devster31> or /dev/pts or /dev/tty?
[23:12] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: what is xfce app cache? do you have a name for the package? more info?
[23:13] <Shawn|i7-720QM> *apt-cache
[23:13] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: I use apt-cache-ng, but it only really makes sense i you have multiple machines around
[23:14] <Shawn|i7-720QM> 1 server to install it on atm
[23:14] <Cobrax> #ubuntu-server
[23:14] <Shawn|i7-720QM> quit trolling Cobrax
[23:14] <Cobrax> I am not
[23:15] <Cobrax> I am heloing
[23:15] <hggdh> Cobrax: his question is valid here
[23:15] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: so, what is the issue
[23:15] <hggdh> ?
[23:16] <Shawn|i7-720QM> Users and groups I installed per a forums post is not matching the instruction when looking for user privilages options
[23:17] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: users and groups for what? apt-cache?
[23:17] <Shawn|i7-720QM> for gnome tools
[23:18] <Shawn|i7-720QM> err gnome-system-tools
[23:18] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: now I am confused. What does this have to do with apt-cacher-ng?
[23:18] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I dont know
[23:19] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I thought you were talking about something that installs all necessary packages for xfce4 operation
[23:22] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: sudo apt install xfce4 will install pretty much all the important packages for xfce (if you also accept the recommends)
[23:22] <Shawn|i7-720QM> recommends?
[23:23] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: packages not critical, but potentially useful
[23:23] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I didn't see any recommends, just accepted the xfce4 package suit install
 Shawn|i7-720QM: [...] read the 'Description' and 'Recommends' in "apt-cache show xfce4"
[23:23] <Shawn|i7-720QM> hggdh, how do I install those
[23:24] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: it would be better for you to see the output of apt-cache as tomreyn proposed above. Then decide on what you want
[23:24] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I did twice now
[23:24] <Shawn|i7-720QM> says nothing about how to install recommends
[23:25] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: then -- once you have looked at the output of apt-cache, you apt install the recommended packages you really want
[23:25] <hggdh> (instead of bloating you system with marginally -- for you -- useful packages
[23:26] <Bashing-om> Shawn|i7-720QM: Consider : ' apt show xfce4-goodies ' output .
[23:26] <Shawn|i7-720QM> bloating?
[23:27] <Shawn|i7-720QM> oh, already have that package installed
[23:29] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: bloating: filling your system with unneeded packages
[23:29] <tomreyn> Shawn|i7-720QM: recommended packages are installed by default, unless the 'APT::Install-Recommends true' apt preference is modified. run "apt-config dump APT::Install-Recommends" to check. 1=on.
[23:30] <Shawn|i7-720QM> it is on
[23:31] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: then you pretty much have a fully-functional XFCE
[23:31] <Shawn|i7-720QM> and the system sub menu is pretty much empty
[23:32] <Sagan> Hi there :). I'm trying to remove a package, namely linux-image-extra-4.4.0-81-generic, and it does not work
[23:32] <Sagan> whatevery I'm trying to do, it fails to install and to uninstall
[23:33] <aotaoint1in> hi. why does the collectd package have so many dependencies?!
[23:33] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: it is probableyou would get more knowledgeable people on XFCE on the #xubuntu channel
[23:33] <aotaoint1in> 136MB to install a lightweight stats collection daemon?!
[23:34] <aotaoint1in> it's written in c. why do i need java and libperl and avahi/cups and x11-common etc
[23:34] <Shawn|i7-720QM> #xfce has been very quiet
[23:34] <Shawn|i7-720QM> no one has answered any of my questions
[23:34] <Shawn|i7-720QM> over there
[23:35] <hggdh> Shawn|i7-720QM: #xubuntu
[23:35] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ahh, I mis-read your previous comment, sorry
[23:36] <hggdh> aotaoint1in: depends, or recommends?
[23:36] <aotaoint1in> there's also a ridiculously long recommends list.
[23:37] <tomreyn> aotaoint1in: if you would actually like to know which other packages collectd depends on in ubuntu, you could run 'apt-rdepends collectd'. if you're just unhappy with the way it's packaged in ubuntu, maybe a different distribution is what you seek?
[23:37] <aotaoint1in> but yes, you're right, actually
[23:38] <tomreyn> Sagan: please use a pastebin to show the commands you run and how they fail.
[23:38] <tomreyn> !pastebin | Sagan
[23:38] <aotaoint1in> i rescing my complain.
[23:39] <aotaoint1in> they're all recommended (but not suggested)
[23:39] <aotaoint1in> til how apt-get works :P
[23:39] <aotaoint1in> (still a crazy recommends list
[23:40] <hggdh> aotaoint1in: recommends are pacakages that (theoretically) would improve your experience. They do not *need* to be installed, but *might* complement
[23:40] <Bashing-om> Sagan: Some backgrounbd info please ; why remove the backup kerenl linux-image-extra-4.4.0-81-generic ; as -83 is the current version and you do want to keep that last known working kernel - just in case .
[23:41] <hggdh> and, additionally, it does not make much sense in removing -extra  leaving the main kernel package
[23:42] <Sagan> Bashing-om: I followed a guide to install docker at my system, which said I should install two images, this was the second one. my system currently is working, so that's not my problem. My problem is, that this package looks broken, I can't install nor remove it, and I get an error at every apt-get upgrade etc command
[23:43] <hggdh> Sagan: giveus teh full output of the commands you are trying. Use pastebin
[23:43] <Sagan> hggdh: I'm currently creating that list
[23:44] <Bashing-om> Sagan: K; then let us fix . As advised ^  pastebin ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ; sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' sudo apt -f install ' . See then what we got to do .
[23:45] <Sagan> hggdh: I've tried these: https://pastebin.com/WrJ0u2f9
[23:45] <Sagan> (some output is in german)
[23:45] <aotaoint1in> hggdh: i'm aware, but the idiocy of my question may not have made that claer.
[23:45] <aotaoint1in> in any case, thanks for the tips everyone.
[23:46] <Sagan> Bashing-om: ^ I've posted it above
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Sagan: reading.
[23:49] <Bashing-om> Sagan: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' where -f is "fix broken" . See then what we need to address .
[23:51] <Shawn|i7-720QM> :( http://prntscr.com/fvuz23
[23:52] <Sagan> Bashing-om: I guess in case that apt -f install works, there is no error msg, and then apt-get upgrade won't show the broken package again?
[23:53] <Shawn|i7-720QM> oh, I unmounted that partition, and am able to view it in gparted
[23:53] <Shawn|i7-720QM> but when its mounted, I can't write to it
[23:54] <Sagan> Bashing-om: it looks like that fixed it, thank you very much for your help :)
[23:55] <Shawn|i7-720QM> should any of these be checked? http://prntscr.com/fvv1d7
[23:55] <Loshki> Bashing-om: where did -82 go?
[23:58] <Bashing-om> Loshki: Will have to ask of the release team on -82 ., A guess that it got superceeded before the release ? Or a problem in -82 and not released ??
[23:59] <Bashing-om> Sagan: :) . for insuramce . ' sudo dpkg -C ' upper case "C" . Only a return to prompt is a good thing .