[07:42] <Mirv> mitya57: hi! I think transitional package would be needed until 18.04 LTS, other changes can be dropped probably, including the SDK migration note.
[08:27]  * tsimonq2 waves to Mirv :)
[13:06] <mitya57> Mirv, thanks, preparing the merge in silo 2866 and will publish if it builds everywhere.
[17:37] <mapreri> jbicha: I'm looking at the abiword repository in collab-maint, and I notice that 1) the upstream branch is completely empty 2) despite being upstream files in master I fail to see a commit that updates them for the new upstream that you prepared 3) no pristine-tar branch.  Now, what kind of repository is that?  /cc tsimonq2
[17:43] <jbicha> mapreri: it is a packaging-only branch
[17:43] <jbicha> and it's also not my fault
[17:44] <mapreri> oh, debcheckout tricked me by dumping the upstream files there
[17:44] <jbicha> I don't have write permissions to overwrite stuff
[17:44] <mapreri> what do you want to do?
[17:45] <jbicha> I'd like for someone to run
[17:45] <jbicha> chown -R :collab-maint /git/collab-maint/abiword.git
[17:45] <mapreri> only formorer can do that…
[17:45] <mapreri> and you don't want that
[17:45] <mapreri> what you want is scm_collab-maint
[17:46] <jbicha> ok, that
[17:46] <mapreri> but.. why?
[17:46] <mapreri> what do you want to overwrite?
[17:47] <mapreri> objects/ and refs/ seems entirely writable, isn't it?
[17:47] <jbicha> well I can't change any of the hooks…
[17:47] <mapreri> that's the point
[17:47] <mapreri> don't you follow debian-devel-announce?
[17:47] <mapreri> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg00008.html
[17:48] <mapreri> [07:44:32 PM] <mapreri> what do you want to do?
[17:50] <jbicha> mmm, that's less open than I thought collab-maint would be, but ok
[17:50] <mapreri> collab-maint is a security nightmare
[17:50] <Unit193> ↑
[17:50] <jbicha> I don't even run abiword which is part of why I don't want to be its maintainer
[17:51] <jbicha> I don't remember now what I wanted to change
[17:51] <mapreri> non-DDs could add hooks that DDs could then execute, with the potential to do disasters.  or even if you don't consider DDs, but "people with write permissions in a lot of teams"…
[17:53] <jbicha> couldn't you say that about membership in any large Debian team though?
[17:54] <jbicha> mapreri: do you use abiword?
[17:54] <mapreri> yes, so let's say "alioth is a security nightmare"
[17:54] <mapreri> and no, I don't use it
[17:54]  * Mirv waves to tsimonq2 
[17:58] <Unit193> Though collab-maint just happens to be the biggest.
[18:08] <jbicha> mapreri: ok, I deleted the useless upstream branch
[18:08] <mapreri> acl
[18:08] <mapreri> ack*
[19:13] <Son_Goku> :/
[20:22] <Unit193> LocutusOfBorg: If you want to fix the wine-development ftbfs, you could push https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+sourcepub/8037657/+listing-archive-extra (trimming the last changelog of course.)
[21:35] <LocutusOfBorg> Unit193, let me see
[21:42] <LocutusOfBorg> I did sponsor, changing devel to artful
[21:42] <LocutusOfBorg> I know this is not a problem, but my dput is picky