/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/15/#ubuntu-za.txt

squish102running a litecoin mining rig on ubuntu now if boring compared to 2 years ago02:53
squish102setup, tweak for about 2 hours, and run for 3 weeks without an issue02:54
LangjanGood morning guys06:19
superflyGood night Langjan, past bedtime for me.06:19
LangjanSleep well superfly 06:20
Kilosmorning everyone07:20
Kiloswhat broke Langjan 07:20
Kilossorry was outside07:20
inetprogoeiemmore09:36
inetproKilos: see, I made it even09:36
inetprobushtech_: and you still have not figured out the cause?09:37
bushtech_Hi all, inetpro. No, still won't start up unless I ngo through recovery mode. have tried this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/808863/ubuntu-upgrade-16-04-1-failed-to-start-load-kernel-modules But thesudo apt-get update09:55
bushtech_sudo apt-get -f install09:55
bushtech_sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:55
bushtech_doesn't work09:55
inetprobushtech_: then how do you go in eventually, or is this another machine?10:00
inetprooh... you said it10:00
inetprorecovery mode10:00
Kiloslol10:01
inetproai!10:01
Kiloshmm...10:01
bushtech_yes, hitting ctrl C after viewing details in dpkg makes it boot10:01
Kilosbushtech_ what i see rings a bell10:02
inetprostrange one that10:02
Kiloswhat is the error message you get10:02
Kilossorry i dont see it10:02
Kilosok i go read that link10:02
bushtech_failed to start load kernel modules10:03
Kiloswhat do you see with sudo apt update10:04
bushtech_it is up to date. no failures listed10:06
Kilosi think i had that once, whenever it was, on grub menu can you choose to boot from an older version?10:06
Kilosand in synaptic can you choose edit and fix broken10:07
bushtech_btdt. grub show 3 versions 81,82,83. none of them will boot 10:07
inetprosystemctl status systemd-modules-load.service10:07
Kilosoh my10:07
bushtech_inetpro. you want me to run that?10:08
inetproyep10:08
bushtech_let me just ssh so I can paste10:10
LangjanHi Kilos inetpro bushtech_ 10:10
inetprohi Langjan10:10
Langjanhoe gaan dit?10:11
inetprobushtech_: apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get -f install10:11
inetproor run each step between the '&&' on it's own10:12
Kiloshi Langjan 10:12
inetpro'&&' means run the next command if the previous is succesful 10:12
Kilosok dankie en daar10:12
LangjanAlles wel dankie Kilos en by jou?10:12
bushtech_ systemd-modules-load.service - Load Kernel Modules10:13
bushtech_   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/systemd-modules-load.service; static; ven10:13
bushtech_   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2017-07-14 19:57:00 SAST; 16h ag10:13
bushtech_     Docs: man:systemd-modules-load.service(8)10:13
bushtech_           man:modules-load.d(5)10:13
bushtech_ Main PID: 471 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)10:13
Kilosook ok dankie10:13
LangjanMooi10:13
bushtech_Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: Starting Load Kernel Modules...10:13
bushtech_Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE10:13
bushtech_Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: Failed to start Load Kernel Modules.10:13
bushtech_Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: Unit entered failed state.10:13
bushtech_Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.10:13
Langjankoue op pad...10:13
Kiloseish10:13
Langjanlyk na Maandag en Dinsdag10:14
inetprobushtech_: yeah, that should be Active: active10:14
bushtech_inetpro: ran them many times doesn't help10:14
* Kilos whispers boot-repair10:15
LangjanAny hope for a USB stick that is not seen? Win 7 reinstalls its software then also cannot see it 10:15
Kilostry disk utility10:16
inetproread the comment at https://askubuntu.com/questions/891628/ubuntu-16-04-failed-to-start-load-kernel-modules#comment1394733_89162810:16
Langjanalso does not see it10:16
Kilosum10:16
inetpro"Turn off secure boot in your BIOS."10:16
Kilostestdisk10:16
inetprobushtech_: have you tried that ^^ ?10:16
Langjantestdisk in linux or windoze?10:17
KilosLangjan if testdisk does not see it through it away10:17
Kilosoh you in dows10:17
Langjanno but tried there10:17
Kilosuse tetdisk in buntu10:17
Kilostestdisk10:18
Langjanok so 10:18
Kilosmaybe sudo testdisk10:18
Kilosmight need to install it first10:18
Langjanoh not an app?10:18
Kilosi have had no probs for so long i forget all these things10:18
Kilosye its in synaptic10:19
Langjanyes I see it10:19
Langjan thks10:19
Kilossudo apt install tetdisk10:19
Kilostestdisk10:19
Kilossticky s10:19
Kiloshi poppin10:19
Kiloswbb asap10:20
Kiloshere10:21
bushtech_inetpro: the apt-get update and the dpkg --configure -a.?10:21
inetprobushtech_: what's with that?10:21
bushtech_maybe I should just try that set umpteen times and a see10:22
inetprodo you see failures there?10:22
LangjanKilos, testdisk is installed but does not show10:23
Kilosthan that stick is most likely history sir10:23
Kiloswith all the important stuff on it10:23
LangjanNo, testdisk does not show10:23
Kiloshas it been near a magnet10:24
Kilosoh10:24
Kilosit runs from cli man10:24
Kilossudo testdisk10:24
Kiloschoose no records10:24
Kilosor no lgs if it sees it10:24
Kiloslogs10:25
inetprobushtech_: I need to go out quickly, will be back later10:26
inetprothere has to be a solution for this... I hope you find it soon10:26
Kilosboot-repair10:26
bushtech_np inetpro thanks10:26
Kilosbushtech_ try boot-repair10:26
Kilossudo apt install boot-repair10:27
LangjanNo, testdisk does nor pick it up either10:27
Kilosthen its scrap Langjan 10:27
Langjanok thaks good to know10:28
Kilostry see with gparted10:28
Kilosmight just see it10:28
Langjanno it does not10:28
Kilosthen its scrap10:28
Langjannor does disks10:28
Langjananother q plse10:29
Kilosyes?10:29
Kiloswhats a q10:29
LangjanSkype has upgraded had to do new install of the app10:29
Langjannow it shows in the ;launcher and the panel10:29
LangjanI want to delete the icon in the launcher but it sticks like vrazy10:30
Kiloswhew ask if any mate users are here10:30
Kilosright click it?10:30
Langjanno Ubuntu 16.04 unity10:30
Kilosdrag it to the bin or onto desktop10:31
LangjanI get "lock to launcher" and "quit" but neither does anything10:31
Langjanjumps back 10:31
Kiloswhy you want to remove it?10:31
Langjanclutters my launcher10:32
Kiloslol i have no idea sir10:32
Langjantried Ezane, no success10:32
LangjanAlso tried menu editor10:33
Langjaneish!10:33
Kiloswhy you think they dumped unity10:33
Kilosits only one piece of clutter man10:34
Kiloslive with it or break something else trying to fix it10:34
Langjanok10:34
Kiloswhat happened to mate10:35
LangjanMate is live and well on my laptop10:35
Kilosah10:35
Kilosput ate on desktop as well10:36
Kilosmate10:36
Langjandesktop runs good on unity with 8 GB RAM and ssd10:36
Kiloslook in synaptic what it is called, maybe mate-desktop10:36
LangjanNo,no - very happy with unity10:37
Kilosthen you can choose at login which one to use10:37
Kiloslol10:37
Kilosok10:37
LangjanI'll play around a bit, maybe go timeshift and start over with Skype10:38
Kilosfirst remove skype completely10:38
Kiloseven in the . files10:38
LangjanGood idea, then reinstall carefully10:38
Kilosthen try remove the thing10:38
bushtech_Kilos: installed boot-repair but when I try to run it the first error is : Failed to connect to Mir10:38
Kilosthen only install skype again10:38
Kilosinetpro whats that mean10:39
Kilosbushtech_ just try running boot-repair from an install dvd or stick10:40
Kilosi dont know anything about mir10:40
Kiloslet me try find you a link10:41
bushtech_seems I need to install first10:41
bushtech_Mir that is10:41
Kiloshttps://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso/download10:42
Kilosthen you run it from a cd or stick10:42
bushtech_from search:  310:42
bushtech_down vote10:42
bushtech_accepted10:42
bushtech_10:42
bushtech_Mir is the next-gen graphical display server created by Canonical that in the future will sostitute the X server. 10:42
Kilosoh my10:43
Kilosi have fallen far behind10:43
bushtech_please ignore rubbish in between10:43
Kilosyou can still install stuff hey?10:43
bushtech_yep server connected to internet10:44
Kiloslast resort normally other than boot-repair is open synaptic and typ in kernel in serch and then right click and reinstall everything that shows as installed10:45
Kilosdo the same with linux10:45
Kilostake time but normally will reinstall whats broken10:46
bushtech_thanks wiil try that10:46
bushtech_stupid question:  what is default on 16.04 or am I running unity?10:47
Kilosi have no idea, when i switched to kde i didnt bother with unity anymore10:49
Kilos16.04 might be gnome10:49
Kilosask Langjan 10:49
LangjanHi, ?10:49
LangjanYou need Unity default boot settings bushtech_ ?10:51
bushtech_I dont want to willy nilly install a new whachamacallit10:53
Kilosthats why reinstall in synaptic what is already installed10:53
bushtech_if I'm running gnome dont want to change now10:54
Kilosmaybe clean out your archives first10:54
Kiloscopy them to a folder somewhere10:54
bushtech_need a better search than kernel, too much stuff listed10:54
Kilosit could be any one thats faulty10:55
Kilosdid you look in synaptic edit fix broken10:55
bushtech_says fixed dependency problems at the bottom10:57
Kilosok then reinstall grub-pc and grub-pc-bin i think they were10:58
Kilostype grub in synaptic and reinstall all grub stuff that is already installed 10:58
Kilosand look for error messages10:58
Kilosi dont think grub will reinstall into a faulty kernel10:59
Kilosgimme 10 i need t take a pill sigh10:59
Kiloswb Langjan 11:05
Kilosany news bushtech_ 11:05
LangjanKilos, looks like the new Skype is set up to clutter the launcher and the panel11:05
Kilosyou can always do like me and save home and reinstall11:05
Kilosoh my Langjan 11:06
Kilosi havent used skype for about a month, even removed it from my cell. it eats data even when you dont use it11:07
LangjanI restarted so it could autostart and installed itself same way, does not heed "quit"  11:07
LangjanOh, ok11:07
LangjanData fortunately not a prob here11:07
Kiloslol11:07
LangjanLooks like I have a permanent unnecessary feature in my launcher...and it's Windoze-based. lmga!11:11
LangjanEngland 7/2 after 6 overs... 11:13
Kiloslol11:14
bushtech_picked all grub stuff in synaptic for reinstall. seems stuck on "Setting up grub-pc-dbg(2.02~beta2-36ubuntu 3.11)...11:21
bushtech_yep, definitely stuck there11:52
bushtech_no looks like it was successfully reinstalled but doesnt show as completed when reinstalling12:05
Kiloshmm...12:07
Kiloswhere are the clever guys12:07
Kilosall i can think of is if it doesnt boot now then go with kernel and boot stuff reinstall12:08
Kilosmaybe even try boot-repair again12:09
Kilosi cant do techie stuff but normally if you hit something with a large enough hammer it moves12:09
bushtech_havent managed to run boot-repair yet, still wondering about the effects of Mir12:11
Kiloswill mir take over from xserver12:17
Kiloslol may google pitfalls of using mir on whatever version you are using12:18
Kilosmaybe its even better12:19
bushtech_lets hear what inetpro reckons when he gets back12:20
paddatrapperKilos: with Ubuntu dropping Unity, I doubt it. Wayland is the future replacement for X12:20
paddatrapperHi everyone12:20
bushtech_know ver little about this stuff, wayland got something to do with Mir?12:21
Kiloshi paddatrapper please help bushtech_ 12:23
paddatrapperbushtech_: mir and wayland are both display "servers", they replace X in managing input and actually rendering stuff on the screen12:24
Kilosi wonder if reinstall ubuntu-desktop could help bushtech_ 12:24
paddatrapperKilos: I don't have any more insights... Dunno what's happening there 12:24
Kiloskernel error12:25
Kiloshow does one reinstall the kernel stuff thats needed for booting12:25
bushtech_gotcha paddatrapper, what is the default in 16.04 ie what am I running?12:25
paddatrapperbushtech_: X12:25
paddatrapperKilos: apt install <kernel package>? 12:26
Kilosyour error is long before x even starts working isnt it12:26
bushtech_duh OK thanks12:26
Kilosnow just to find which kernel package12:27
Kilosthats why i use synaptic reinstall everything kernel related12:27
Kilosthen you must have the right one as well12:28
Kilosi dont know if systemback still exists but you could make a stick to install with and everything will be as it was before12:32
bushtech_if I search for kernel in synaptic should it list my  3 ie 81 to 83?12:32
Kilosmine made a 6g install stick12:32
Kilospaddatrapper what does that mean?12:33
paddatrapperbushtech_: what are the package versions? 12:34
Kilossynaptic should show everything installed on your system12:34
bushtech_under kernel search the only thing it lists as installed is kerneloops-daemon12:34
Kilosand under linux ?12:34
paddatrapperbushtech_: can you use apt? 12:34
bushtech_yep12:34
Kilosthere are headers and stuff, they all related i think12:34
paddatrapperapt-cache search linux12:35
bushtech_freenode will freak if I paste that lot12:36
bushtech_something I should look for?12:37
Kilospastebin it12:37
Kiloshttps://bin.snyman.info12:37
bushtech_shall I just stick it in there12:39
Kilosyes thats where we put stuff for the brains to diagnose12:39
bushtech_k12:39
* paddatrapper will be back later12:42
bushtech_finally got it copied, 3700 lines, sorry inetpro13:04
Kiloslol wow13:08
pavlushkaahoy ZA!13:09
inetprouname -r13:13
inetproand to get all your installed kernels:13:15
inetprodpkg -l | grep linux-headers | grep ii | awk '{print $3}'13:15
bushtech_uname -r13:17
bushtech_4.4.0-83-generic13:17
bushtech_ubuntuserver# dpkg -l | grep linux-headers | grep ii | awk '{print $3}'13:18
bushtech_4.4.0-81.10413:18
bushtech_4.4.0-81.10413:18
bushtech_4.4.0-83.10613:18
bushtech_4.4.0-83.10613:18
bushtech_4.4.0.83.8913:18
inetproKilos: you and your re-installs :-)13:29
inetprobushtech_: your problem is unlikely to be in the boot sector13:29
Kiloshahaha only way i used to be able to keep going inetpro 13:29
inetpromore like a systemd issue13:29
Kiloskernel probs are only for clever guys to sort13:30
inetprobushtech_: have you looked around for a SECURE BOOT option in your BIOS?13:32
inetprosudo dmidecode | head13:34
inetprothat ^^ should show you your BIOS vendor and version13:34
inetproor more detailed:13:36
inetprosudo dmidecode -t bios13:36
inetproSecure Boot is a feature designed to prevent malicious software and unauthorized media from loading during the boot process. This option is enabled by default, but can be turned off in UEFI / BIOS.13:38
inetprounfortunately it can also prevent Linux and other non-Windows operating systems from booting13:39
bushtech_inetpro: no, have not looked in bios. But this server has been running for a while like this. but mb replaced a while ago so could be an issue13:39
inetproif we know what bios and version you have we can perhaps help you to find where that option is13:41
bushtech_first bit:SMBIOS 3.0 present.13:41
bushtech_Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes13:41
bushtech_BIOS Information13:41
bushtech_        Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.13:41
bushtech_        Version: 200313:41
bushtech_        Release Date: 09/19/201613:41
bushtech_        Address: 0xF000013:41
bushtech_        Runtime Size: 64 kB13:41
bushtech_        ROM Size: 16384 kB13:41
bushtech_ BIOS Revision: 5.1113:42
inetprocheck https://www.google.com/search?q=American+Megatrends+Inc+2003+secure+boot&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-5tf-tYvVAhUpDsAKHSEkBJUQ_AUICygC&biw=1116&bih=51613:46
inetprosee if you can spot an image there that looks like yours13:46
bushtech_k13:46
inetproI'd say try enable Legacy Support and disable Secure Boot13:49
inetproyou can always reverse it if that doesn't help13:50
inetprojust make a note of what it was13:50
inetpromore info on Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) and Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:52
bushtech_mine is quite a fancy screen with spinning fans13:53
bushtech_but I can see that secure boot is enabled13:53
bushtech_is legacy support somewhere in the bios?13:55
bushtech_cant see that I can change the secure boot13:55
inetproin that link above you should often have seen it on the same page in the bios13:56
inetprobushtech_: you have 64bit Ubuntu installed?13:58
bushtech_https://www.google.com/search?q=American+Megatrends+Inc+2003+secure+boot&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-5tf-tYvVAhUpDsAKHSEkBJUQ_AUICygC&biw=1116&bih=516#imgrc=GJ7kH7ObuC32NM:13:58
bushtech_that one looks like it could be mine13:59
inetproyour link shows all images14:01
inetproclick on the image and choose "View image" then send us the link14:02
bushtech_ah sorry14:03
bushtech_http://sanuja.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/asus_bios_ez_mode.jpg14:03
inetprointeresting14:03
bushtech_no it's 32 bit14:05
inetproeish!14:05
bushtech_when a doctor says interesting to me I have to change my undies14:06
inetprohaha, I'm not a doctor :-)14:07
inetprobut you certainly seem to have a more modern bios screen there14:08
inetpronot one that I have come across yet14:08
inetprosudo dmidecode -t system14:09
bushtech_damn, don't have the box anymore so cant tell you what it is14:10
inetprowhat do you have for System Information?14:10
Kilosrofl14:10
inetproManufacturer and Product Name14:10
bushtech_where would I find system info?14:12
inetprobushtech_: sudo dmidecode -t system14:16
inetprobushtech_: do you have Windows installed as well, or not?14:17
bushtech_no windows14:17
inetprohttps://www.technorms.com/45538/disable-enable-secure-boot-asus-motherboard-uefi-bios-utility14:18
inetprolooks like quite a process to disable a simple thing 14:19
inetpronot sure I understand all that14:19
inetpro"straightforward once you know the steps"14:20
bushtech_heh yes btdt14:21
bushtech_normally takes days to sort out the mess afterwards14:21
inetproai!14:22
inetprobushtech_: have you looked at: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=21019414:24
bushtech_nope14:25
bushtech_that dmidecode doesnt seem to work14:25
bushtech_Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes14:26
bushtech_System Information14:26
bushtech_        Manufacturer: System manufacturer14:26
bushtech_        Product Name: System Product Name14:26
bushtech_        Version: System Version14:26
bushtech_        Serial Number: System Serial Number14:26
bushtech_        UUID: 5520C016-2B7E-1610-1F3D-704D7BB16C5114:26
bushtech_        Wake-up Type: Power Switch14:26
bushtech_        SKU Number: SKU14:26
bushtech_        Family: To be filled by O.E.M.14:26
bushtech_get this sort of thing14:26
inetproyikes!14:26
bushtech_running out of undies14:27
inetprowell it has to be ASUS based on the BIOS screen14:28
inetprosorry, that link above won't help much, I think14:28
bushtech_prett sure its an asus board14:29
inetprolsb_release -d14:30
inetprobushtech_: ^^14:31
bushtech_from archliux: systemctl restart systemd-modules-load.service14:32
bushtech_Job for systemd-modules-load.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.14:32
inetproand14:32
inetprobushtech_: uname -a14:32
bushtech_lsb_release -d14:33
bushtech_Description:    Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS14:33
bushtech_uname -a14:33
bushtech_Linux ubuntuserver 4.4.0-83-generic #106-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 26 17:54:25 UTC 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux14:33
inetprook, so maybe, let's look into that... can you identify the module that failed?14:34
inetprohmm.... but I see you already posted that above14:36
bushtech_systemd uninformative: Failed to start Load Kernel Modules.14:37
inetprohave you tried booting with a live 64bit disk?14:38
inetprowhat kinda specs are we looking at in terms of CPU and RAM, maybe time to abandon 32bit14:40
bushtech_from journalctl: Failed to find module 'usbserial vendor=0x067b product=0x2303'14:41
bushtech_hmmmm14:42
bushtech_could that be it?14:43
inetprohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/151910214:44
bushtech_where would that little line be hiding?14:44
inetprooops... ignore that 14:44
inetprofrom journalctl: Failed to find module 'usbserial vendor=0x067b product=0x2303'14:45
inetprothat looks interesting14:45
bushtech_cat /etc/modules contins that line14:46
bushtech_hash it and reboot?14:46
inetprolsusb14:48
bushtech_lsusb14:48
bushtech_Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub14:48
bushtech_Bus 001 Device 003: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port14:48
bushtech_Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0835:1601 Action Star Enterprise Co., Ltd14:48
bushtech_Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub14:48
inetproProlific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port14:49
bushtech_bollocks. Hope its not the connection to my weather station14:49
inetprocan you try disconnect that maybe?14:50
inetproand then boot14:51
bushtech_I've got a ST labs usb to serial connection plugged in from my weather station14:51
bushtech_can do14:51
Kiloswow what a job this turned out to be14:53
Kilosi have slept and you still going14:53
inetproKilos: I like going the long routes :-)14:54
Kilosyes i know14:54
Kilosbut your normally get it fixed mr fixit14:54
Kilosi actually miss the days i needed help all the time14:54
bushtech_unplugged usb/serial but still wouln't reboot14:55
inetproyou get to understand more of it going the long route 14:55
inetprobushtech_: ai!14:55
Kiloshow long has this thing been running14:55
Kilosnew install or upgrade or what caused the prob14:55
bushtech_what?14:55
inetprobushtech_: I didn't expect it to be the issue14:55
bushtech_now  I'm going to try hashing out the usb line in /etc/modules14:57
inetproworth a try but I don't think it's that14:57
inetprobushtech_: have you tried booting with a live CD, just to see whether it works?14:59
bushtech_no15:01
bushtech_ok rebooting with hashed line didnt work as you expected Sir15:01
inetprore-installing is the absolute last option15:02
inetprothere has to be a good reason why it failed15:02
bushtech_been trying for weeks to find it15:03
inetprowow, you are a very patient man15:04
bushtech_btw that was the only line in /etc/modules15:04
bushtech_been able to boot it so not a critical issue15:05
* inetpro has nothing defined in /etc/modules15:05
bushtech_yeah, something must have added it. just need to check at 5.30 that the weather station posts15:07
inetprobushtech_: you only work on cli from this machine?15:30
inetprobushtech_: have you looked at /var/log/kern.log yet?15:39
bushtech_currently ssh'ed in from windows machine via mobaxterm15:39
inetproand did your weather station work?15:39
bushtech_yep weather station posted15:41
inetprobushtech_: do you have Windows 10 installed?15:44
bushtech_on my windows laptop yes15:45
bushtech_masses of stuff in kern.log15:47
bushtech_something I should look for?15:47
bushtech_spotted this: \_SB_.PCI0:_OSC invalid UUID15:47
hibanahmm...15:47
hibanainetpro got lost in the ether somewhere15:48
=== hibana is now known as inetpro
inetprobushtech_: sorry, am not sure what I missed15:48
inetprolast thing I had was this "bushtech_: do you have Windows 10 installed?"15:49
bushtech_on my windows laptop yes16:07
bushtech_masses of stuff in kern.log16:07
bushtech_something I should look for?16:07
=== inetpro_ is now known as inetpro
inetproai!16:09
bushtech_lyk my jy voel soos ou geniss- beswaard16:10
* inetpro don't like it when someone/something pulls the rug out under my feet16:11
bushtech_patience my young paduan16:12
bushtech_no time limit on this- go eat supper, etc16:14
Kiloslol17:19
bushtech_wat lag jy. dis ernstige stories die :)17:22
inetproKilos: ja nee man, wat gaan aan?18:48
bushtechdink hyt al gaan slaap19:12
inetproja lyk my so19:14
inetproseker van skok uitgepaas omdat die Sharks verloor het19:15
bushtechinetpro dankie vir die hulp waardeer dit19:15
inetprobushtech: groot plesier meneer, maar weet nie so mooi of ek met enigiets gehelp het nie19:17
bushtechmonitor nog kern.log maar sien niks snaaks nie19:17
bushtech2 koppe darem beter as een19:17
Kilossjoe19:17
inetprobushtech: maar as jy kans het moet jy die live CD probeer19:18
bushtechaha man nog wakker19:18
inetproKilos: welkom terug19:18
Kiloswas dozing guys, had another chest day19:18
Kilosdanke19:18
inetproai!19:18
bushtechhoop jys ok19:18
Kilosyeah it was a mild one19:18
inetprobushtech: probeer eers jou normale 32bit iso en dan probeer jy bietjie die 64bit... en kyk of jy enigiets wys word19:19
bushtechwhat is involved in changing from 32 bit to 64 bit?19:19
bushtechgreat minds19:19
Kilosbig job19:19
Kiloseverything changes19:19
bushtechcomplete reinstall rewuired?19:20
Kilosonly some multiarch packages are used still i think19:20
bushtechrequired19:20
Kilosi think so yes19:20
inetpromost developers are ahead of the game on high end devices with the latest and greatest speeds19:20
Kiloscant just do an upgrade i think19:20
inetprothey don't care about 32bit anymore19:20
bushtechdont know if I got the strentgh to set up raid and rsync again19:21
Kilosnight guys, have a good night and rest well19:21
Kiloslol19:21
bushtechnag lekker slaap19:21
* Kilos waves19:21
Kilosdankie baie19:21
bushtechinetpro: I suppose it should be 1604 live cd. 19:25
bushtechgot lots of prev versions lol19:25
inetproyou want the normal Unity version?19:26
inetprothat would be http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso19:27
bushtechduh. unity x Mir kde etc mean nothing to me 19:27
bushtechjust go with the vanilla version19:28
bushtechless $%#@19:28
bushtechthe way I feel now juming through hoops to reboot is less hassle than seting up raid and rsync again19:30
bushtechoh and trying to remember how I got my weather sation to work on ubuntu19:30
bushtechsation/station19:31
bushtechjust thinking about it ugh19:32
inetprohaha, I know that feeling19:33
inetproyou're getting too old sir19:33
bushtechheh no I just dont know enough19:33
bushtechthings like that take days of googling19:34
inetproplease note, I didn't say you should just do the install19:34
inetprojust run the system from CD and see whether it works19:34
inetproor from DVD for that matter19:35
inetproI mean USB19:35
bushtechstck?19:35
inetproyep19:35
bushtechoh yeah19:35
bushtechWorks great but seems to eat usb sticks19:36
bushtechcant get them back to normal19:36
inetproif it works from your old 32bit live disk then we know there's something that can be fixed19:37
inetprono man, with usb you can do the installation and then clean it again for other uses19:37
bushtechjust busy hunting for that 32 bit iso. must be on one ofthe computers arond here19:38
bushtechwith me they seem to ebcome one purpose. wipe them and nothing can read them19:39
inetproyou just need gparted to format a flash disk in VFAT or old DOS format again19:39
inetprogparted made things quite easy these days19:40
bushtechah found it ubuntu-16.04.1-server-i386x19:40
inetproserver?19:40
bushtechyep its a server hence raid rsync19:41
inetprooh but then you don't need the GUI at all19:41
bushtechtheoretically yes but practically no19:42
inetproI mean, the server version doesn't come with GUI19:42
inetproif you want a GUI then you install the desktop version19:42
bushtechyep I add it19:42
inetprohmm...19:42
inetprowhat do you need the GUI for?19:43
bushtechits a server I use server version19:43
bushtechcheck on weather station, etc19:43
inetproyou have a link for me?19:44
bushtechmuch as I like cli, it doesnt work for everything19:44
bushtechfor weather station?19:44
inetproif you want the server version you need http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.2-server-amd64.iso19:44
inetprobushtech: yes19:44
bushtechhttps://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=INORTHWE6#history19:45
inetprothat's yours?19:45
bushtechhave a good look. If I start reloading gonna be a month of Sundays before you see it again19:46
bushtechyes19:46
inetprogolden rule: don't rush into it19:47
bushtechwise words I tell myself every time19:48
inetprodo you have a link to where they tell you how to install it?19:48
bushtechjust dont listen to myself19:48
bushtechooh, that will be weewx19:49
bushtechI dont shudder when I think about it so prob wasnt too painful19:50
bushtechhttp://www.weewx.com/docs/debian.htm19:51
inetproyou don't have a webcam there, do you?19:51
bushtechno, keep looking at them but too expensive19:51
inetprocool19:52
bushtechbut then I am looking at night imaging19:52
* inetpro still dreaming of setting up a weather station19:52
bushtechnot for the weather but the wild critters running around here at night19:53
inetprodoesn't look too difficult actually 19:53
inetprobut always easier said than done19:53
bushtechdont think so19:53
inetprowhy not just install the real thing and do it on Debian?19:53
bushtechwhereabouts you, you might have a station running wunderground near you19:54
bushtechexplain please19:54
inetproyou know the Heatherdale Cemetery perhaps or Bentleys Country Lodge? I'm close to that in Pretoria North / Karenpark19:56
bushtechlets have look19:58
inetproUbuntu Server should be perfectly fine as well19:58
inetproyou don't have a spare machine there perhaps?19:59
bushtechwaterkloof19:59
inetproyou don't want the weatherstation to stop running while you battle with the installation19:59
bushtechgot a small zbox19:59
bushtechi wont lose records just the posting to wunderground will stop20:00
bushtechweather st stores about 3months. 20:01
bushtechshould manage the changeover in that hah20:01
inetprohow much bandwidth does it use?20:01
inetproprobably insignificant20:01
inetprothis one looks closest to me https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/FAWB20:02
bushtechwonderboom south https://www.wunderground.com/q/zmw:00000.32.6826220:02
inetprowhat are we talking about in terms of hardware needed?20:02
bushtechah ok20:02
bushtechdavis vantage vue does it you dont need the most expensive davis20:03
inetproand you get that where?20:04
bushtechthere is an agent in SA20:05
inetproeish! R12,77020:05
inetprohttp://www.killerdeals.co.za/davis-vantage-weather-station-p-1627.html20:05
bushtechcw Price20:06
bushtechdoent sound like a killer deal to me20:07
bushtechthink I paid about 6K, but that was 7 years ago20:08
inetprowill have to remain lower down in my list of priorities for now20:09
bushtechand just remembered you need a data logger as wel20:10
inetproanyway, I don't see where you need any GUI, so please don't install a GUI20:10
bushtechwhat did you mean here: why not just install the real thing and do it on Debian20:11
bushtechinetpro: 20:13
inetprobecause at the to it says, "weeWX: Installation on Debian-based systems"20:14
bushtechone of which is ubuntu20:15
inetprowhich is fine20:16
bushtechI run 2 servers, like having them the same, then I can cross check20:17
inetprothing with these installation guidelines, they don't always give you the whole thing from A to Z20:18
bushtechyes, have found that many times20:19
bushtechthen you need a crysta balll20:19
inetprolooks like even the Raspberry Pi would be a good candidate as a weather station20:21
inetprowhat specs do you have for your server?20:23
bushtechas a weather station or handling the data from a ws20:24
bushtechspecs?20:24
inetprothe amount of CPU and RAM for the server with the serial port 20:25
bushtechI3 with 4g ram20:25
inetprospecs = specifications20:25
bushtechheh I know the abbrev.20:26
inetprohaha20:26
inetprolooks like an overkill if you ask me... unless you use it for other purposes as well20:26
bushtechit only an i3 cos mb was replaced 2 months a go20:27
bushtechwouldnt call it exactly high spec20:28
inetprohow often does it upload to wunderground.com?20:30
inetprolooks like once every 30 minutes20:31
bushtechcorrect20:31
bushtechwhen this station was set up data out here was via satellite @ R3K for a gig per month20:32
inetproyikes!20:32
inetproRaspberry Pi 3 Model B features a quad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex A53 clocked at 1.2 GHz with 1GB of LPDDR2-900 SDRAM20:33
inetprolooks like that ^^ is more than enough even20:33
bushtechoh I'm sure20:34
bushtechbut hanging 3hdd off it hmmm20:34
inetproR62920:35
inetprohow much HDD space do you use?20:35
bushtechjust installed unetbootin on server, no idea how you would run it from cli20:36
bushtech2 backup drives are 1tb each20:36
bushtechjust need to backup 2 windows laptops20:36
inetproah, so there's the answer to my question above20:37
bushtechoh and my kodi backup20:37
inetproquestion / statement20:37
inetprokodi, for what?20:38
inetproMusic, Movies, TV Shows and Photos?20:39
bushtechthe kodi backup. your kodi setup files20:39
bushtechno music etc . thats on the other server20:39
inetprointeresting20:39
bushtechthis time I dont need new undies20:40
inetprohaha :-)20:41
bushtechIve got 1604.1 here shouls I rather download 1604.2?20:42
inetprodoesn't mater that much, your first update with 16.04.1 will just download much more files than if you start with .220:44
bushtechjust want to run it as a livecd20:45
inetprodid you download the desktop version?20:53
bushtechno downloads yet20:53
inetprothe server version has no live cd thingy, if I remember correctly20:53
inetpros/thingy/interface/20:54
bushtechah see wahat you mean20:55
bushtechbut if im gonna start buggering around might just as well download 1604.2  Which is only 64 bit afaik and install it20:57
inetprojust do it! 21:00
inetproif you have the data, of course21:00
bushtechi have the data these days, thats why you're suddenly seeing me here again21:02
bushtechbut I'm going with server version again21:02
inetprocool21:03
bushtechso how far is nearest weather station to you?21:05
inetproinstall the whole thing, as if you don't have the weather station connected to it, on another machine just to experiment 21:05
bushtechhmm yeah can do21:06
bushtechshouldnt bend the zbox21:06
inetprooops, as if you have the weather station connected*21:08
inetprodaspoort is probably closer to me but that's on the other side of the mountain21:09
bushtechyeah no good, totally diff wether on either side21:09
inetprotime to go sleep21:12
inetprogood night21:12
bushtechnight inetpro thanks21:13
inetproyou're welcome21:13

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