[02:53] running a litecoin mining rig on ubuntu now if boring compared to 2 years ago [02:54] setup, tweak for about 2 hours, and run for 3 weeks without an issue [06:19] Good morning guys [06:19] Good night Langjan, past bedtime for me. [06:20] Sleep well superfly [07:20] morning everyone [07:20] what broke Langjan [07:20] sorry was outside [09:36] goeiemmore [09:36] Kilos: see, I made it even [09:37] bushtech_: and you still have not figured out the cause? [09:55] Hi all, inetpro. No, still won't start up unless I ngo through recovery mode. have tried this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/808863/ubuntu-upgrade-16-04-1-failed-to-start-load-kernel-modules But thesudo apt-get update [09:55] sudo apt-get -f install [09:55] sudo dpkg --configure -a [09:55] doesn't work [10:00] bushtech_: then how do you go in eventually, or is this another machine? [10:00] oh... you said it [10:00] recovery mode [10:01] lol [10:01] ai! [10:01] hmm... [10:01] yes, hitting ctrl C after viewing details in dpkg makes it boot [10:02] bushtech_ what i see rings a bell [10:02] strange one that [10:02] what is the error message you get [10:02] sorry i dont see it [10:02] ok i go read that link [10:03] failed to start load kernel modules [10:04] what do you see with sudo apt update [10:06] it is up to date. no failures listed [10:06] i think i had that once, whenever it was, on grub menu can you choose to boot from an older version? [10:07] and in synaptic can you choose edit and fix broken [10:07] btdt. grub show 3 versions 81,82,83. none of them will boot [10:07] systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service [10:07] oh my [10:08] inetpro. you want me to run that? [10:08] yep [10:10] let me just ssh so I can paste [10:10] Hi Kilos inetpro bushtech_ [10:10] hi Langjan [10:11] hoe gaan dit? [10:11] bushtech_: apt-get update && dpkg --configure -a && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get -f install [10:12] or run each step between the '&&' on it's own [10:12] hi Langjan [10:12] '&&' means run the next command if the previous is succesful [10:12] ok dankie en daar [10:12] Alles wel dankie Kilos en by jou? [10:13] systemd-modules-load.service - Load Kernel Modules [10:13] Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/systemd-modules-load.service; static; ven [10:13] Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2017-07-14 19:57:00 SAST; 16h ag [10:13] Docs: man:systemd-modules-load.service(8) [10:13] man:modules-load.d(5) [10:13] Main PID: 471 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) [10:13] ook ok dankie [10:13] Mooi [10:13] Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: Starting Load Kernel Modules... [10:13] Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE [10:13] Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. [10:13] Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: Unit entered failed state. [10:13] Jul 14 19:57:00 ubuntuserver systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. [10:13] koue op pad... [10:13] eish [10:14] lyk na Maandag en Dinsdag [10:14] bushtech_: yeah, that should be Active: active [10:14] inetpro: ran them many times doesn't help [10:15] * Kilos whispers boot-repair [10:15] Any hope for a USB stick that is not seen? Win 7 reinstalls its software then also cannot see it [10:16] try disk utility [10:16] read the comment at https://askubuntu.com/questions/891628/ubuntu-16-04-failed-to-start-load-kernel-modules#comment1394733_891628 [10:16] also does not see it [10:16] um [10:16] "Turn off secure boot in your BIOS." [10:16] testdisk [10:16] bushtech_: have you tried that ^^ ? [10:17] testdisk in linux or windoze? [10:17] Langjan if testdisk does not see it through it away [10:17] oh you in dows [10:17] no but tried there [10:17] use tetdisk in buntu [10:18] testdisk [10:18] ok so [10:18] maybe sudo testdisk [10:18] might need to install it first [10:18] oh not an app? [10:18] i have had no probs for so long i forget all these things [10:19] ye its in synaptic [10:19] yes I see it [10:19] thks [10:19] sudo apt install tetdisk [10:19] testdisk [10:19] sticky s [10:19] hi poppin [10:20] wbb asap [10:21] here [10:21] inetpro: the apt-get update and the dpkg --configure -a.? [10:21] bushtech_: what's with that? [10:22] maybe I should just try that set umpteen times and a see [10:22] do you see failures there? [10:23] Kilos, testdisk is installed but does not show [10:23] than that stick is most likely history sir [10:23] with all the important stuff on it [10:23] No, testdisk does not show [10:24] has it been near a magnet [10:24] oh [10:24] it runs from cli man [10:24] sudo testdisk [10:24] choose no records [10:24] or no lgs if it sees it [10:25] logs [10:26] bushtech_: I need to go out quickly, will be back later [10:26] there has to be a solution for this... I hope you find it soon [10:26] boot-repair [10:26] np inetpro thanks [10:26] bushtech_ try boot-repair [10:27] sudo apt install boot-repair [10:27] No, testdisk does nor pick it up either [10:27] then its scrap Langjan [10:28] ok thaks good to know [10:28] try see with gparted [10:28] might just see it [10:28] no it does not [10:28] then its scrap [10:28] nor does disks [10:29] another q plse [10:29] yes? [10:29] whats a q [10:29] Skype has upgraded had to do new install of the app [10:29] now it shows in the ;launcher and the panel [10:30] I want to delete the icon in the launcher but it sticks like vrazy [10:30] whew ask if any mate users are here [10:30] right click it? [10:30] no Ubuntu 16.04 unity [10:31] drag it to the bin or onto desktop [10:31] I get "lock to launcher" and "quit" but neither does anything [10:31] jumps back [10:31] why you want to remove it? [10:32] clutters my launcher [10:32] lol i have no idea sir [10:32] tried Ezane, no success [10:33] Also tried menu editor [10:33] eish! [10:33] why you think they dumped unity [10:34] its only one piece of clutter man [10:34] live with it or break something else trying to fix it [10:34] ok [10:35] what happened to mate [10:35] Mate is live and well on my laptop [10:35] ah [10:36] put ate on desktop as well [10:36] mate [10:36] desktop runs good on unity with 8 GB RAM and ssd [10:36] look in synaptic what it is called, maybe mate-desktop [10:37] No,no - very happy with unity [10:37] then you can choose at login which one to use [10:37] lol [10:37] ok [10:38] I'll play around a bit, maybe go timeshift and start over with Skype [10:38] first remove skype completely [10:38] even in the . files [10:38] Good idea, then reinstall carefully [10:38] then try remove the thing [10:38] Kilos: installed boot-repair but when I try to run it the first error is : Failed to connect to Mir [10:38] then only install skype again [10:39] inetpro whats that mean [10:40] bushtech_ just try running boot-repair from an install dvd or stick [10:40] i dont know anything about mir [10:41] let me try find you a link [10:41] seems I need to install first [10:41] Mir that is [10:42] https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso/download [10:42] then you run it from a cd or stick [10:42] from search: 3 [10:42] down vote [10:42] accepted [10:42] [10:42] Mir is the next-gen graphical display server created by Canonical that in the future will sostitute the X server. [10:43] oh my [10:43] i have fallen far behind [10:43] please ignore rubbish in between [10:43] you can still install stuff hey? [10:44] yep server connected to internet [10:45] last resort normally other than boot-repair is open synaptic and typ in kernel in serch and then right click and reinstall everything that shows as installed [10:45] do the same with linux [10:46] take time but normally will reinstall whats broken [10:46] thanks wiil try that [10:47] stupid question: what is default on 16.04 or am I running unity? [10:49] i have no idea, when i switched to kde i didnt bother with unity anymore [10:49] 16.04 might be gnome [10:49] ask Langjan [10:49] Hi, ? [10:51] You need Unity default boot settings bushtech_ ? [10:53] I dont want to willy nilly install a new whachamacallit [10:53] thats why reinstall in synaptic what is already installed [10:54] if I'm running gnome dont want to change now [10:54] maybe clean out your archives first [10:54] copy them to a folder somewhere [10:54] need a better search than kernel, too much stuff listed [10:55] it could be any one thats faulty [10:55] did you look in synaptic edit fix broken [10:57] says fixed dependency problems at the bottom [10:58] ok then reinstall grub-pc and grub-pc-bin i think they were [10:58] type grub in synaptic and reinstall all grub stuff that is already installed [10:58] and look for error messages [10:59] i dont think grub will reinstall into a faulty kernel [10:59] gimme 10 i need t take a pill sigh [11:05] wb Langjan [11:05] any news bushtech_ [11:05] Kilos, looks like the new Skype is set up to clutter the launcher and the panel [11:05] you can always do like me and save home and reinstall [11:06] oh my Langjan [11:07] i havent used skype for about a month, even removed it from my cell. it eats data even when you dont use it [11:07] I restarted so it could autostart and installed itself same way, does not heed "quit" [11:07] Oh, ok [11:07] Data fortunately not a prob here [11:07] lol [11:11] Looks like I have a permanent unnecessary feature in my launcher...and it's Windoze-based. lmga! [11:13] England 7/2 after 6 overs... [11:14] lol [11:21] picked all grub stuff in synaptic for reinstall. seems stuck on "Setting up grub-pc-dbg(2.02~beta2-36ubuntu 3.11)... [11:52] yep, definitely stuck there [12:05] no looks like it was successfully reinstalled but doesnt show as completed when reinstalling [12:07] hmm... [12:07] where are the clever guys [12:08] all i can think of is if it doesnt boot now then go with kernel and boot stuff reinstall [12:09] maybe even try boot-repair again [12:09] i cant do techie stuff but normally if you hit something with a large enough hammer it moves [12:11] havent managed to run boot-repair yet, still wondering about the effects of Mir [12:17] will mir take over from xserver [12:18] lol may google pitfalls of using mir on whatever version you are using [12:19] maybe its even better [12:20] lets hear what inetpro reckons when he gets back [12:20] Kilos: with Ubuntu dropping Unity, I doubt it. Wayland is the future replacement for X [12:20] Hi everyone [12:21] know ver little about this stuff, wayland got something to do with Mir? [12:23] hi paddatrapper please help bushtech_ [12:24] bushtech_: mir and wayland are both display "servers", they replace X in managing input and actually rendering stuff on the screen [12:24] i wonder if reinstall ubuntu-desktop could help bushtech_ [12:24] Kilos: I don't have any more insights... Dunno what's happening there [12:25] kernel error [12:25] how does one reinstall the kernel stuff thats needed for booting [12:25] gotcha paddatrapper, what is the default in 16.04 ie what am I running? [12:25] bushtech_: X [12:26] Kilos: apt install ? [12:26] your error is long before x even starts working isnt it [12:26] duh OK thanks [12:27] now just to find which kernel package [12:27] thats why i use synaptic reinstall everything kernel related [12:28] then you must have the right one as well [12:32] i dont know if systemback still exists but you could make a stick to install with and everything will be as it was before [12:32] if I search for kernel in synaptic should it list my 3 ie 81 to 83? [12:32] mine made a 6g install stick [12:33] paddatrapper what does that mean? [12:34] bushtech_: what are the package versions? [12:34] synaptic should show everything installed on your system [12:34] under kernel search the only thing it lists as installed is kerneloops-daemon [12:34] and under linux ? [12:34] bushtech_: can you use apt? [12:34] yep [12:34] there are headers and stuff, they all related i think [12:35] apt-cache search linux [12:36] freenode will freak if I paste that lot [12:37] something I should look for? [12:37] pastebin it [12:37] https://bin.snyman.info [12:39] shall I just stick it in there [12:39] yes thats where we put stuff for the brains to diagnose [12:39] k [12:42] * paddatrapper will be back later [13:04] finally got it copied, 3700 lines, sorry inetpro [13:08] lol wow [13:09] ahoy ZA! [13:13] uname -r [13:15] and to get all your installed kernels: [13:15] dpkg -l | grep linux-headers | grep ii | awk '{print $3}' [13:17] uname -r [13:17] 4.4.0-83-generic [13:18] ubuntuserver# dpkg -l | grep linux-headers | grep ii | awk '{print $3}' [13:18] 4.4.0-81.104 [13:18] 4.4.0-81.104 [13:18] 4.4.0-83.106 [13:18] 4.4.0-83.106 [13:18] 4.4.0.83.89 [13:29] Kilos: you and your re-installs :-) [13:29] bushtech_: your problem is unlikely to be in the boot sector [13:29] hahaha only way i used to be able to keep going inetpro [13:29] more like a systemd issue [13:30] kernel probs are only for clever guys to sort [13:32] bushtech_: have you looked around for a SECURE BOOT option in your BIOS? [13:34] sudo dmidecode | head [13:34] that ^^ should show you your BIOS vendor and version [13:36] or more detailed: [13:36] sudo dmidecode -t bios [13:38] Secure Boot is a feature designed to prevent malicious software and unauthorized media from loading during the boot process. This option is enabled by default, but can be turned off in UEFI / BIOS. [13:39] unfortunately it can also prevent Linux and other non-Windows operating systems from booting [13:39] inetpro: no, have not looked in bios. But this server has been running for a while like this. but mb replaced a while ago so could be an issue [13:41] if we know what bios and version you have we can perhaps help you to find where that option is [13:41] first bit:SMBIOS 3.0 present. [13:41] Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes [13:41] BIOS Information [13:41] Vendor: American Megatrends Inc. [13:41] Version: 2003 [13:41] Release Date: 09/19/2016 [13:41] Address: 0xF0000 [13:41] Runtime Size: 64 kB [13:41] ROM Size: 16384 kB [13:42] BIOS Revision: 5.11 [13:46] check https://www.google.com/search?q=American+Megatrends+Inc+2003+secure+boot&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-5tf-tYvVAhUpDsAKHSEkBJUQ_AUICygC&biw=1116&bih=516 [13:46] see if you can spot an image there that looks like yours [13:46] k [13:49] I'd say try enable Legacy Support and disable Secure Boot [13:50] you can always reverse it if that doesn't help [13:50] just make a note of what it was [13:52] more info on Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) and Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [13:53] mine is quite a fancy screen with spinning fans [13:53] but I can see that secure boot is enabled [13:55] is legacy support somewhere in the bios? [13:55] cant see that I can change the secure boot [13:56] in that link above you should often have seen it on the same page in the bios [13:58] bushtech_: you have 64bit Ubuntu installed? [13:58] https://www.google.com/search?q=American+Megatrends+Inc+2003+secure+boot&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-5tf-tYvVAhUpDsAKHSEkBJUQ_AUICygC&biw=1116&bih=516#imgrc=GJ7kH7ObuC32NM: [13:59] that one looks like it could be mine [14:01] your link shows all images [14:02] click on the image and choose "View image" then send us the link [14:03] ah sorry [14:03] http://sanuja.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/asus_bios_ez_mode.jpg [14:03] interesting [14:05] no it's 32 bit [14:05] eish! [14:06] when a doctor says interesting to me I have to change my undies [14:07] haha, I'm not a doctor :-) [14:08] but you certainly seem to have a more modern bios screen there [14:08] not one that I have come across yet [14:09] sudo dmidecode -t system [14:10] damn, don't have the box anymore so cant tell you what it is [14:10] what do you have for System Information? [14:10] rofl [14:10] Manufacturer and Product Name [14:12] where would I find system info? [14:16] bushtech_: sudo dmidecode -t system [14:17] bushtech_: do you have Windows installed as well, or not? [14:17] no windows [14:18] https://www.technorms.com/45538/disable-enable-secure-boot-asus-motherboard-uefi-bios-utility [14:19] looks like quite a process to disable a simple thing [14:19] not sure I understand all that [14:20] "straightforward once you know the steps" [14:21] heh yes btdt [14:21] normally takes days to sort out the mess afterwards [14:22] ai! [14:24] bushtech_: have you looked at: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=210194 [14:25] nope [14:25] that dmidecode doesnt seem to work [14:26] Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes [14:26] System Information [14:26] Manufacturer: System manufacturer [14:26] Product Name: System Product Name [14:26] Version: System Version [14:26] Serial Number: System Serial Number [14:26] UUID: 5520C016-2B7E-1610-1F3D-704D7BB16C51 [14:26] Wake-up Type: Power Switch [14:26] SKU Number: SKU [14:26] Family: To be filled by O.E.M. [14:26] get this sort of thing [14:26] yikes! [14:27] running out of undies [14:28] well it has to be ASUS based on the BIOS screen [14:28] sorry, that link above won't help much, I think [14:29] prett sure its an asus board [14:30] lsb_release -d [14:31] bushtech_: ^^ [14:32] from archliux: systemctl restart systemd-modules-load.service [14:32] Job for systemd-modules-load.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. [14:32] and [14:32] bushtech_: uname -a [14:33] lsb_release -d [14:33] Description: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS [14:33] uname -a [14:33] Linux ubuntuserver 4.4.0-83-generic #106-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 26 17:54:25 UTC 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux [14:34] ok, so maybe, let's look into that... can you identify the module that failed? [14:36] hmm.... but I see you already posted that above [14:37] systemd uninformative: Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. [14:38] have you tried booting with a live 64bit disk? [14:40] what kinda specs are we looking at in terms of CPU and RAM, maybe time to abandon 32bit [14:41] from journalctl: Failed to find module 'usbserial vendor=0x067b product=0x2303' [14:42] hmmmm [14:43] could that be it? [14:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1519102 [14:44] where would that little line be hiding? [14:44] oops... ignore that [14:45] from journalctl: Failed to find module 'usbserial vendor=0x067b product=0x2303' [14:45] that looks interesting [14:46] cat /etc/modules contins that line [14:46] hash it and reboot? [14:48] lsusb [14:48] lsusb [14:48] Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub [14:48] Bus 001 Device 003: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port [14:48] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0835:1601 Action Star Enterprise Co., Ltd [14:48] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [14:49] Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port [14:49] bollocks. Hope its not the connection to my weather station [14:50] can you try disconnect that maybe? [14:51]