[00:00] <Shawn|i7-720QM> oh, I have to launch nautilus or pcmanfm under sudo
[00:36] <bazhang> what is cod1 Shawn|i7-720QM
[00:36] <Shawn|i7-720QM> idk, what is that?
[00:37] <bazhang> Shawn|i7-720QM> why do I keep getting an error on c0d1??
[00:37] <Shawn|i7-720QM> oh, I had it mounted at the same time I tried viewing it in gparted
[00:37] <bazhang> what is it
[00:39] <bazhang> Shawn|i7-720QM, why are you crossposting multiple ubuntu channels your issues
[00:40] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I changed all to shawn and create and delete files
[00:42] <Shawn|i7-720QM> bazhang, well, before it was busier
[00:42] <bazhang> Shawn|i7-720QM, well it's not a well accepted practice, the same supporters are in the same multiple channels, please desist
[00:43] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ah
[00:43] <Shawn|i7-720QM> bazhang,  from someone in ubuntu I was told to talk in xubuntu since this channel is likely to have more xfce experienced users
[00:44] <bazhang> Shawn|i7-720QM, so cod1 is some steam or wine game, or what
[00:44] <Shawn|i7-720QM> c0d1 is a disk
[00:44] <Shawn|i7-720QM>  /dev/cciss/c0d1 is the 2nd logical drive in the scsi array
[00:45] <bazhang> what is on the disk, what are you trying to do
[00:45] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I changed the permissions via nautilus, and it works
[00:45] <bazhang> changed how, by what commands, so what's the problem you are posting about here and now
[00:46] <Shawn|i7-720QM> bazhang, someone hours ago also said my questions were still valid in ubuntu, and were helping me
[00:46] <Shawn|i7-720QM> bazhang by right clicking the drive, and going to permissions, changing all from root to shawn
[00:47] <bazhang> 'it all works'
[00:47] <bazhang> so what's the problem
[00:51] <Shawn|i7-720QM> well, the problem is solved
[00:52] <bazhang> so what are you posting to #ubuntu and here for the last hour or so
[00:59] <es1> bazhang, are you op here too?
[01:00] <bazhang> es1, lets keep the offtopic chatter to #xubuntu-offtopic please
[01:00] <es1> Dear God
[01:00] <Shawn|i7-720QM> bazhang, I silenced myself after ben64's arrogance set me off
[01:00] <Shawn|i7-720QM> no problems now
[01:01] <bazhang> Shawn|i7-720QM, he's a volunteer, same as the rest of us
[01:01] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I understand that
[01:01] <es1> What kernel version comes with xubuntu?
[01:01] <bazhang> Shawn|i7-720QM, there is no set off, just choose to not type a response
[01:02]  * Shawn|i7-720QM facepalms
[01:02] <bazhang> es1 /msg ubottu info linux-image-generic
[01:02] <es1> Thanks
[01:03] <bazhang> es1 thats the latest, if you want trusty, then /msg ubottu linux-image-generic trusty
[01:03] <es1> Ok
[01:04] <es1> I was choosing between lubuntu and xubuntu
[01:04] <knome> both have the same kernel
[01:04] <es1> Yes I see now
[01:04] <es1> I installed lubuntu since they do list the kernel in their site
[01:04] <bazhang> it's ubuntu everywhere under the hood
[01:04] <bazhang> just the window dressings and some apps differ
[01:05] <es1> And both should have same performance for low-end machines right?
[01:06] <bazhang> xfce and lubuntu?
[01:06] <es1> yeah
[01:06] <bazhang> nopers
[01:06] <bazhang> lubuntu is quite the lightest
[01:06] <es1> Oh
[01:07] <bazhang> es1 distrowatch.com has a listing at what all package version numbers, kernels, etc each and every distro uses
[01:07] <es1> Then I'm glad I installed lubuntu :}
[01:07] <es1> Right, I completely forgot about that site
[01:07] <bazhang> es1 they have a support channel here on freenode: #lubuntu
[01:08] <es1> thx
[01:08] <bazhang> npx
[01:08] <knome> the kernel version number isn't meaningful for most people who install xubuntu so it makes no sense to list it on the website
[01:09] <es1> I have an issue where my laptop won't shutdown completely, I experienced this with several linux distros
[01:09] <es1> So I was hoping the latest kernel would fix that
[01:09] <es1> But it does not
[01:09] <bazhang> knome well the distrowatch site never promised sense
[01:10] <knome> bazhang, indeed... and i don't have admin rights there, but i might have some for the xubuntu website ;)
[01:10] <es1> It's like, OS shuts down but PC is still on and I have to force it manually
[01:10] <bazhang> hehe
[01:10] <es1> Kali, xubuntu, mint, lubuntu, all the same
[01:11] <es1> Best I can do is go with the fastest distro
[01:13] <knome> or the one that provides the features and user-friendliness you need...
[01:13] <knome> but that's obviously subjective
[01:14] <es1> Since when is linux user friendly :p
[01:14] <bazhang> since a decade ago
[01:14] <es1> I just want to be able to shutdown my laptop like a normal decent person
[01:14] <bazhang> !warty
[01:15] <bazhang> es1 did the laptop advertise as being linux friendly?
[01:15] <bazhang> es1 did you shop with being linux capable in mind?
[01:16] <es1> no
[01:16] <bazhang> well thats the laptop makers issue
[01:16] <es1> I shopped looking for certain hardware
[01:17] <es1> and small design
[01:17] <es1> Sure
[01:17] <bazhang> intel is pretty much the most linux friendly, in term of NIC, graphics and so on
[01:18] <bazhang> many thinkpads, for example are almost all intel
[01:18] <es1> Celeron N2840
[01:18] <bazhang> thats incredibly slow
[01:18] <es1> It did also had the NIC I was looking for :p
[01:18] <bazhang> no OS is going to go fast on that one
[01:19] <es1> CPU speed is not an issue for me
[01:19] <es1> I just want to be able to shutdown my laptop remember x)
[01:19] <bazhang> I mean all around performance
[01:20] <es1> I did upgrade to 8GB RAM and SSD
[01:20] <bazhang> so figure out what is causing the shutdown issue instead of kernel chasing
[01:21] <es1> "kernel chasing" you make it sound nasty x)
[01:22] <bazhang> jave you tried shutting down from the command line
[01:22] <es1> Yeah
[01:22] <bazhang> and what is the exact error message you get
[01:23] <es1> I don't get any error, laptop starts shutting down, I see OS logging of, services being killed etc.
[01:23] <es1> everything normal
[01:23] <es1> screen goes black like normal but the device is still on
[01:24] <bazhang> es1 if you are logging off in cli, what screen going black are you speaking of
[01:24] <es1> screen black like when your laptop shutdown
[01:25] <es1> If it weren't for the power led you wouldn't notice it is still on
[01:25] <bazhang> es1, how are you getting into the cli, and what command do you use to shutdown
[01:26] <es1> It's been a while
[01:27] <bazhang> es1, those are the kinds of things we need to troubleshoot
[01:27] <es1> I stopped trying those solutions after they all failed in Kali, Mint, Xubuntu, etc
[01:27] <es1> Yeah
[01:27] <bazhang> es1 to reproduce errors, and get messages that we can then figure out the issue
[01:28] <bazhang> 'all failed' wont get any help
[01:28] <es1> I'm just not doing that troubleshoot right now
[01:28] <es1> Since I'm not using it right now
[01:28] <es1> Maybe I'll do it next week
[01:29] <bazhang> be sure to give us the exact details
[01:29] <es1> Will do
[18:49] <xubuntu52d> Hello
[18:50] <diogenes_> hi
[18:50] <xubuntu22d> Hello
[18:50] <xubuntu22d> Is this a group chat?
[18:50] <diogenes_> aha
[18:51] <xubuntu22d> I am new to this.
[18:51] <diogenes_> aha
[18:51] <xubuntu22d> There?
[18:53] <xubuntu22d> Hello??
[18:53] <diogenes_> hello
[18:54] <xubuntu22d> How does this work?
[18:54] <xubuntu22d> Am I supposed to ask questions here?
[18:54] <knome> xubuntu22d, if you have a support question, type it and press enter. if somebody knows the answer, they are likely to answer.
[18:56] <xubuntu22d> The notifications are screwed up on my Xubuntu machine. I will give two examples.
[18:57] <xubuntu22d> When I increase or decrease brightness by scrolling on the battery icon, it works but I do not get any indicator notifications.
[18:57] <xubuntu22d> Moreover, when I increase or decrease the volume by scrolling, I do not get any popping sound notifications.
[18:58] <xubuntu22d> Is this a bug?
[18:58] <xubuntu22d> More information here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/911924/volume-mixer-notifcation-sound-on-volume-change-xubuntu
[18:58] <xubuntu22d> And here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/928508/notifications-alert-sound-on-xubuntu-16-04
[20:09] <ubernets> How can I get the xfce brightness plugin to the panel in 16.04. I already installed xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-power-manager-plugins, but still no brightness plugin in "Panel > Add New Items".
[20:17] <ubernets> I just noticed the Power Manager Plugin is grayed out in "Add New Items". What may be the issue?
[20:36] <xubuntu22d> Then it is already there. Do you have a battery icon?
[20:38] <ubernets> xubuntu22d, yes yu are right. I found it now. It looks different than on 14.04