[00:00] oh, I have to launch nautilus or pcmanfm under sudo [00:36] what is cod1 Shawn|i7-720QM [00:36] idk, what is that? [00:37] Shawn|i7-720QM> why do I keep getting an error on c0d1?? [00:37] oh, I had it mounted at the same time I tried viewing it in gparted [00:37] what is it [00:39] Shawn|i7-720QM, why are you crossposting multiple ubuntu channels your issues [00:40] I changed all to shawn and create and delete files [00:42] bazhang, well, before it was busier [00:42] Shawn|i7-720QM, well it's not a well accepted practice, the same supporters are in the same multiple channels, please desist [00:43] ah [00:43] bazhang, from someone in ubuntu I was told to talk in xubuntu since this channel is likely to have more xfce experienced users [00:44] Shawn|i7-720QM, so cod1 is some steam or wine game, or what [00:44] c0d1 is a disk [00:44] /dev/cciss/c0d1 is the 2nd logical drive in the scsi array [00:45] what is on the disk, what are you trying to do [00:45] I changed the permissions via nautilus, and it works [00:45] changed how, by what commands, so what's the problem you are posting about here and now [00:46] bazhang, someone hours ago also said my questions were still valid in ubuntu, and were helping me [00:46] bazhang by right clicking the drive, and going to permissions, changing all from root to shawn [00:47] 'it all works' [00:47] so what's the problem [00:51] well, the problem is solved [00:52] so what are you posting to #ubuntu and here for the last hour or so [00:59] bazhang, are you op here too? [01:00] es1, lets keep the offtopic chatter to #xubuntu-offtopic please [01:00] Dear God [01:00] bazhang, I silenced myself after ben64's arrogance set me off [01:00] no problems now [01:01] Shawn|i7-720QM, he's a volunteer, same as the rest of us [01:01] I understand that [01:01] What kernel version comes with xubuntu? [01:01] Shawn|i7-720QM, there is no set off, just choose to not type a response [01:02] * Shawn|i7-720QM facepalms [01:02] es1 /msg ubottu info linux-image-generic [01:02] Thanks [01:03] es1 thats the latest, if you want trusty, then /msg ubottu linux-image-generic trusty [01:03] Ok [01:04] I was choosing between lubuntu and xubuntu [01:04] both have the same kernel [01:04] Yes I see now [01:04] I installed lubuntu since they do list the kernel in their site [01:04] it's ubuntu everywhere under the hood [01:04] just the window dressings and some apps differ [01:05] And both should have same performance for low-end machines right? [01:06] xfce and lubuntu? [01:06] yeah [01:06] nopers [01:06] lubuntu is quite the lightest [01:06] Oh [01:07] es1 distrowatch.com has a listing at what all package version numbers, kernels, etc each and every distro uses [01:07] Then I'm glad I installed lubuntu :} [01:07] Right, I completely forgot about that site [01:07] es1 they have a support channel here on freenode: #lubuntu [01:08] thx [01:08] npx [01:08] the kernel version number isn't meaningful for most people who install xubuntu so it makes no sense to list it on the website [01:09] I have an issue where my laptop won't shutdown completely, I experienced this with several linux distros [01:09] So I was hoping the latest kernel would fix that [01:09] But it does not [01:09] knome well the distrowatch site never promised sense [01:10] bazhang, indeed... and i don't have admin rights there, but i might have some for the xubuntu website ;) [01:10] It's like, OS shuts down but PC is still on and I have to force it manually [01:10] hehe [01:10] Kali, xubuntu, mint, lubuntu, all the same [01:11] Best I can do is go with the fastest distro [01:13] or the one that provides the features and user-friendliness you need... [01:13] but that's obviously subjective [01:14] Since when is linux user friendly :p [01:14] since a decade ago [01:14] I just want to be able to shutdown my laptop like a normal decent person [01:14] !warty [01:14] Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog) was the first release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 30, 2006. See !eol for more details. [01:15] es1 did the laptop advertise as being linux friendly? [01:15] es1 did you shop with being linux capable in mind? [01:16] no [01:16] well thats the laptop makers issue [01:16] I shopped looking for certain hardware [01:17] and small design [01:17] Sure [01:17] intel is pretty much the most linux friendly, in term of NIC, graphics and so on [01:18] many thinkpads, for example are almost all intel [01:18] Celeron N2840 [01:18] thats incredibly slow [01:18] It did also had the NIC I was looking for :p [01:18] no OS is going to go fast on that one [01:19] CPU speed is not an issue for me [01:19] I just want to be able to shutdown my laptop remember x) [01:19] I mean all around performance [01:20] I did upgrade to 8GB RAM and SSD [01:20] so figure out what is causing the shutdown issue instead of kernel chasing [01:21] "kernel chasing" you make it sound nasty x) [01:22] jave you tried shutting down from the command line [01:22] Yeah [01:22] and what is the exact error message you get [01:23] I don't get any error, laptop starts shutting down, I see OS logging of, services being killed etc. [01:23] everything normal [01:23] screen goes black like normal but the device is still on [01:24] es1 if you are logging off in cli, what screen going black are you speaking of [01:24] screen black like when your laptop shutdown [01:25] If it weren't for the power led you wouldn't notice it is still on [01:25] es1, how are you getting into the cli, and what command do you use to shutdown [01:26] It's been a while [01:27] es1, those are the kinds of things we need to troubleshoot [01:27] I stopped trying those solutions after they all failed in Kali, Mint, Xubuntu, etc [01:27] Yeah [01:27] es1 to reproduce errors, and get messages that we can then figure out the issue [01:28] 'all failed' wont get any help [01:28] I'm just not doing that troubleshoot right now [01:28] Since I'm not using it right now [01:28] Maybe I'll do it next week [01:29] be sure to give us the exact details [01:29] Will do === Israphel is now known as Guest34144 === Israphel_ is now known as Israphel [18:49] Hello [18:50] hi [18:50] Hello [18:50] Is this a group chat? [18:50] aha [18:51] I am new to this. [18:51] aha [18:51] There? [18:53] Hello?? [18:53] hello [18:54] How does this work? [18:54] Am I supposed to ask questions here? [18:54] xubuntu22d, if you have a support question, type it and press enter. if somebody knows the answer, they are likely to answer. [18:56] The notifications are screwed up on my Xubuntu machine. I will give two examples. [18:57] When I increase or decrease brightness by scrolling on the battery icon, it works but I do not get any indicator notifications. [18:57] Moreover, when I increase or decrease the volume by scrolling, I do not get any popping sound notifications. [18:58] Is this a bug? [18:58] More information here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/911924/volume-mixer-notifcation-sound-on-volume-change-xubuntu [18:58] And here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/928508/notifications-alert-sound-on-xubuntu-16-04 [20:09] How can I get the xfce brightness plugin to the panel in 16.04. I already installed xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-power-manager-plugins, but still no brightness plugin in "Panel > Add New Items". [20:17] I just noticed the Power Manager Plugin is grayed out in "Add New Items". What may be the issue? [20:36] Then it is already there. Do you have a battery icon? [20:38] xubuntu22d, yes yu are right. I found it now. It looks different than on 14.04