[13:57] <ochosi> hey everyone, i pushed a new branch to greybird making the client side decorations slimmer
[13:57] <ochosi> i'm happy to get some feedback whether this looks too compressed or whether that's a welcome change
[14:56] <kafran> Hello fellows. I installed the XFWM 4.13 on Zesty from the GTK3 PPA, for testing the new VSync feature. But it doesn't seems to be working. Actually, the option to "Synchronize to vertical blank" on the Compositor settings vanished. Is there any thing special I should do? Or should I report a bug?
[15:18] <ninetls> kafran: try to launch it with XFWM4_USE_PRESENT=1
[15:19] <kafran> ninetls, is this an environment variable?
[15:19] <ninetls> kafran: yes
[15:19] <kafran> ninetls, I did not get it
[15:19] <kafran> ninetls, ok. I set the variable and then call xfwm4 --replace ?
[15:19] <ninetls> yes, try it. `XFWM4_USE_PRESENT=1 xfwm4 --replace`
[15:20] <kafran> (xfwm4:3935): xfwm4-WARNING **: GL not available
[15:20] <kafran> (xfwm4:3935): xfwm4-WARNING **: Dismissing XPresent as unusable, error 3 for request 148
[15:20] <kafran> hmmn, maybe this is something
[15:22] <ninetls> well, there are some problems with xpresent, it doesn't work for everyone
[15:23] <kafran> ninetls, but it should be reallying on opengl now, no?
[15:23] <ninetls> kafran: I heard something about it but didn't tried
[15:23] <ninetls> I use xpresent since Olivier told it's better and xpresent works for me
[15:38] <kafran> ninetls, are you on xubuntu 17.04?
[15:39] <ninetls> kafran: no, I'm arch user
[15:40] <kafran> I think this is the problem, the version of xpresent lib xubuntu 17.04 delivers
[15:41] <ninetls> the problem isn't in xpresent version. the problem may be in xorg version or in your video driver
[15:45] <ninetls> afaik present extension is designed to use with dri3
[15:45] <ninetls> so maybe your video driver should be configured for this
[15:45] <kafran> ninetls, I'm on Intel hardware
[15:45] <kafran> I using the modesetting driver
[16:04] <kafran> ninetls, I installed the intel driver and configured it to DRI 3; still not working
[16:04] <kafran> Well, I give up xD
[16:05] <ninetls> kafran: actually I don't know how to configure it as guaranteed
[16:05] <ninetls> Olivier told that on some distros xorg is a bit outdated and doesn't support present well
[16:05] <ninetls> it also can be a hardware problem
[16:08] <kafran> I wish I had time to arch; it seems to be a good distro
[20:37] <Unit193> knome: Would actually make sense to change the help channel in the different translations.
[20:37] <knome> maybe