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cpaelzeroh I just realize that I updated the log, but missed the agenda update16:00
rharperand the new meeting date16:00
cpaelzerdpb's action of last week is done, all others carried16:00
rharperbut it's really annoying that it's in 5 places16:00
cpaelzeryes16:00
cpaelzerI get all 1/5 times so do most others16:00
rharperhehe16:00
* rharper waits just a bit more after summoning some folks16:01
smbo/16:01
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rharperok16:02
rharper#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:02
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jul 18 16:02:05 2017 UTC.  The chair is rharper. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:02
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick16:02
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rharper#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:02
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rharperprevious agenda looks the same, nacc's out this week, so I'll just carry those16:02
rharper#action nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:02
meetingologyACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:02
cpaelzeryes16:03
rharper#action nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:03
meetingologyACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:03
cpaelzerand yours likely as well?16:03
rharperrbasak is not here as well, so carry16:03
rharperwell16:03
rharperI *did* do one of them16:03
cpaelzeryay++16:03
rharperso, gonna mark that complete16:03
cpaelzerrbasak was around16:03
cpaelzerlet's ping him "at home"16:03
rharperk16:03
rharperI'll carry it and then mark it done if the answer differs16:04
rharper#action rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:04
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:04
rharper#done rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init16:04
rharperon the serverguide, there wasn't much of a section on cloud-init so wasn't sure what to do about that16:05
rharperso I'll carry for now16:05
rharper#action rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:05
meetingologyACTION: rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:05
rharperok16:05
rharperrbasak: I marked your previous task as carry-over, is that accurate ?16:06
rharperI'll assume so and you can correct me later if needed16:07
rharper#topic Artful Development16:07
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rharper#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule16:07
rbasakrharper: that's correct, thanks.16:07
rharperrbasak: great!16:07
smosero/16:07
rharper#subtopic blueprints16:07
rharper#link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server16:08
rharperany update to current work that needs discussion ?16:08
cpaelzeractually the blueprints are replaced by the non daiyl board16:08
cpaelzerlet me fetch the link16:08
ahasenackI think just the meeting subtopic is named incorrectly16:08
ahasenackthe link looks correct16:08
cpaelzerhttps://trello.com/b/8bC9VQMk/server-backlog16:08
rharperI have the link, but the subtopic is from the paste16:08
rharperlemme put the bp link and then switch subtopics16:08
cpaelzerwell we have the short and the longterm one - I think it is fair to link up both from the meeting16:09
rharper#subtopic Current Work16:09
cpaelzerto give the full view16:09
rharperthe backlog one ?16:09
rharper#link https://trello.com/b/8bC9VQMk/server-backlog16:09
rharperwe have both, and can fix up the actions16:09
cpaelzerthe old blueprint split into daily and backlog - which together are a superset of the old16:09
rharper#action rharper to update irc cut-n-paste links to point to trello pages16:09
meetingologyACTION: rharper to update irc cut-n-paste links to point to trello pages16:09
rharperok, any backlog discussion needed ?16:10
rharper#subtopic Release Bugs16:10
cpaelzerno changes incoming atm afaik16:10
cpaelzer(on the backlog)16:10
rharper#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:10
rharpercpaelzer: thanks16:10
rharperanything hot here ?16:11
cpaelzerone general question16:11
cpaelzerslashd: who is now Mr. sosreport?16:11
cpaelzerit seems you on one of the bugs found in the link above - is that the case?16:11
slashdcpaelzer, well I'm taking care of it, and have monthly meeting with stokachu16:12
cpaelzerok, thanks16:12
cpaelzerdidn't know that stokachu is intertwinded with sosreport16:13
cpaelzeron the django bug - that is in proposed - nacc can share more next week when he is available16:13
rharperok16:13
cpaelzermaybe it even migrated until then16:13
slashdcpaelzer, he is upstream/ubuntu, sosreport is crucial for us, so I decide to take the lead on this for our team16:13
cpaelzerok, good to know16:14
slashdand work with him on this to merge package in a regular basis when needed to fix bug16:14
rharper#info stokachu is upstream/ubuntu for sosreport package16:14
rharper#topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet)16:14
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slashdBusiness as usual for us, here's the SRUs we are currently working on : https://pastebin.canonical.com/193745/ , other than that I have nothing special to report this week.16:14
rharper#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:15
slashd#info SRU pending for : percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5 percona-xtradb-cluster-5.6, open-iscsi, ksh, cups, nfs-utils, rsyslog16:15
rharper#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:15
ahasenackhm, rsyslog16:15
ahasenackslashd: what is the rsyslog sru?16:16
ahasenacktime jumps16:16
ahasenackok, see it16:16
ahasenackI might have another sru for it soon16:16
ahasenackbut can wait16:16
rharperbug #142942716:16
ubottubug 1429427 in rsyslog (Ubuntu Trusty) "Unexplainable time jumps in CRON" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142942716:16
cpaelzerfyi from me also a nut SRU might be coming soon16:17
cpaelzerbut I thought "soon" since quite a while, so I don't know how soon16:17
slashdahasenack, only for trusty, so it won't block you for other releases16:17
rharper#info #1429427 - (rsyslog) Unexplainable time jumps in CRON , Series to SRU : trusty, Owners : Seyeong Kim16:17
cpaelzerI want Debian to move before us so we can keep a sync16:17
slashdI can ping you when Trusty SRU is done if you want16:17
rharper#info #1590799 - (nfs-utils) nfs-kernel-server does not start because of dependency failure,  Series to SRU : yakkety, Verification : verification-done-xenial verification-needed, Owners : Rafael David Tinoco16:18
ahasenackslashd: ok16:18
ahasenackmine is...16:18
rharper#info #1657256 - (percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5 percona-xtradb-cluster-5.6) Percona crashes when doing a a 'larger' update , Series to SRU : xenial zesty trusty yakkety, Owners : Mario Splivalo16:18
ahasenackhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/167551516:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1531622 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1675515 default config still using a legacy keyword: KLogPermitNonKernelFacility" [Medium,Fix released]16:18
ahasenackwhich leads to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/170398716:18
rharper#info #1668639 - (rsyslog) Add a trigger to reload rsyslog when a new configuration file is dropped in /etc/rsyslog.d, Series to SRU : xenial zesty artful trusty yakkety, Owners : Frode Nordahl16:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1703987 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "New style permitnonkernelfacility imklog option inside module() doesn't work" [Low,Triaged]16:18
ahasenackas just changing the config doesn't fix it (upstream bug)16:19
rharper#info #1684039 - (open-iscsi) iBFT network configuration does not correctly populate PROTO=dhcp in /run/net-*.conf which breaks cloud-init, Series to SRU : xenial artful zesty, Owners : Trent Lloyd16:19
rharper#info #1695876 - (cups) German Documentation file displays incorrect CUPS version, Series to SRU : xenial, Owners : Ivy Alexander16:19
rharper#info #1697501 - (ksh) ksh segfault on  job_chksave () after it receive a SIGCHLD (Signal 17) , Series to SRU : xenial zesty yakkety, Verification : verification-done-trusty verification-done-xenial verification-done-yakkety verification-done-zesty, Owners : Eric Desrochers16:20
rharperok, link dereferenced for logs and emailing16:20
rharperok, moving forward16:21
rharper#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)16:21
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rharper#link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/16:21
powersjLast week lots of time spent on the KVM backend for cloud-init testing. This week more of the same.16:21
powersjquestions?16:21
rharper\o/16:21
rharperwhen/where can I try it ?16:21
rharperbranch, jenkins job?16:22
powersjhttps://code.launchpad.net/~powersj/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+ref/cii-kvm16:22
powersjthere is the branch ^16:22
cpaelzerpowersj: x86 only for now?16:22
powersjcpaelzer: yes16:22
cpaelzerhow much more lockup when virt tests run?16:22
cpaelzerso how much workload in hours?16:22
powersjheh not sure yet, I have the backend working, but I need to spend time on test cases to utilize the new features16:23
rharper#link https://code.launchpad.net/~powersj/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+ref/cii-kvm16:23
cpaelzersure16:23
rharper#info cloud-init integration testing with KVM backend in progress16:23
rharperpowersj: did the curtin vmtests run last night ?16:24
* rharper hasn't looked16:24
powersjrharper: ah yes all passed, except daily-t due to bcache16:24
rharpermy manual run on our developement system passed all tests16:24
teward(i'm late again sorry)16:24
rharperpowersj: ok, good; that's more normal16:24
rharperI think the bcache on trusty might be the TOCTOU bug I filed16:25
rharpertypically happens under load only16:25
rharperbug #170056416:25
ubottubug 1700564 in curtin "under heavy IO encounter TOCTOU bug with bcache removal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170056416:25
rharperany other questions for powersj ?16:25
rharperprevious week there was some discussion on seed changes?16:26
rharpercpaelzer: powersj any update here ?16:26
powersjah I misspoke, wasn't seed change16:26
rharperah16:26
rharperok16:26
powersjsounded as if a dependency change pulled more things in, no update though16:26
cpaelzerseed changes were about virt- tasks16:27
cpaelzerthey are done, waiting on aa to remove some packages, that is all16:27
rharperok16:27
cpaelzerthat is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154032316:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1540323 in ubuntu-virt (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-virt is not generated from seeds" [Undecided,Triaged]16:27
rharper#info seed changes are done, waiting on an AA to remove some packages16:27
rharpercpaelzer: thanks16:28
rharper#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)16:28
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smbOr was that about nplan and libnss-resolve not being pulled in by the same meta? That is in kind of works16:28
smbor systemd-netword has to be fixed to work without libnss-resolve16:28
smbAnyhow for kernel. Been distracted with other things, so only can say artful kernel is 4.11 now and intention for release is to be 4.13... Any questions?16:29
rharpersmb: mmm, systemd fun16:29
smba source of much fun... :-P16:29
rharper"fun"16:29
rharperyes, I need more of that16:29
rharpersmb: was there a bug for the libnss-resolve/systemd-networkd/nplan path ?16:30
smbyes16:30
smbhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/170364016:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1703640 in systemd (Ubuntu) "nplan and libnss-resolve should be in same dependency" [Medium,Triaged]16:30
rharperexcellent, thanks16:30
rharperany other questions for smb ?16:30
rharper#topic Upcoming Call For Papers16:31
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rharper#link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/16:31
rharperany paper submissions or new venues to discuss ?16:31
rharper#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:32
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cpaelzerbetter late than never, on the topic before "systemd fun" FYI 234 is in proposed16:32
cpaelzerand fixes one of my issues, so it is fun this time16:32
rharperwell, that's got to be better than 232 and 23316:32
rharperno team events to announce yet16:33
rharperok16:33
rharper#topic Open Discussion16:33
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rharperfire away16:33
smbrharper, as you asked for more systemd "fun": here you go: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/170388216:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1703882 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-networkd does not pick up dns-search from DHCP" [Undecided,New]16:33
rharperthat's no fun16:33
smbthough might be fixed in the new version, I have not yet looked16:33
rharperI suspect AA under MAAS is going to be interesting16:34
smbthe interesting as in "interesting times"16:34
rharperindeed16:34
rharperthere doesn't seem to be anything up for discussion so I'll go ahead and close16:35
rharper#topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair16:35
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rharperchair will be powersj16:35
powersj\o/16:35
rharpermeeting sametime a week from now, minus 35 minutes16:35
rharper#endmeeting16:35
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jul 18 16:35:58 2017 UTC.16:35
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-07-18-16.02.moin.txt16:35
ahasenackthx16:36
cpaelzerthank you rharper!16:36
rharpernp16:36
powersjthx rharper16:36
powersjo/16:36
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rharperup16:36

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