[00:38] <cfhowlett> ping!
[00:38] <cfhowlett> !ping
[01:01] <e14> anyone actually get touchegg / any multigestures to work on ubuntu on a Mac? lol
[01:01] <marco25> whats the difference between libOpenCL.so vs libopencl.so.1 and can the .1 be taken out by renaming?
[01:26] <Hitechcg> marco25: one of them is probably a symlink to the other
[01:27] <Hitechcg> the .1 is probably a version
[01:28] <zenguy> hi :)
[01:39] <Intee> Hey all.. I did a stupid. I did a big stupid.
[01:39] <Intee> I chown'd all of /var to www-data:www-data like a moron.
[01:39] <Intee> Set it all back to root:root now but obv that doesn't work 100%. (Mostly tyhing to get sql working atm)
[01:39] <Intee> Is there anything short of formatting and reinstalling that I can fix this?
[01:40] <EriC^^> do you have a backup?
[01:40] <Intee> Not of the system no. I just installed this a few days ago and haven't backed it up yet.
[01:40] <Intee> Got all my config files backed up though so reinstalling shouldn't be too much of a drama.
[01:41] <cfhowlett> there you go then
[01:41] <EriC^^> Intee: ^
[01:41] <Intee> Damn it haha.
[01:41] <Intee> Thanks anyway <3
[01:53] <cipher6> What command will tell me which terminal I am using
[01:54] <cfhowlett> cipher6, editor
[01:55] <cipher6> cfhowlett, that's the cmd I should use at the CLI?
[01:55] <cfhowlett> yep
[01:55] <cipher6> that opened nano.....?
[01:56] <cipher6> are you saying i should print $EDITOR ?
[01:56] <sary> echo $TERM
[01:56] <cfhowlett> cipher6, ehhh, wait.  sorry, I have you bad advice.  that won't display the term
[01:56] <cfhowlett> thanks sary
[01:56] <cipher6> sary, thanks! Lol so, new question,
[01:56] <cipher6> I deleted lxterm from lubuntu,
[01:57] <cipher6> now lubuntu has defaulted to xterm on ^alt+T
[01:57] <sary> i thought they were asking which terminal is set to defualt.
[01:57] <cipher6> and I installed rxvt-unicode,
[01:57] <cipher6> how can I set the default term?
[01:58] <sary> with sudo update-alternatives --config TerminalName here
[01:58] <sary> or from the keybord settings in system settings
[01:58] <cipher6> thxs
[01:59] <sary> wait
[01:59] <sary> i meant sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[02:10] <antisaint> No devices listed. I know it can stream live to win10 :/
[02:12] <sary> how fun is it watchin' cp copin' from one distansion to another while the XHDD spins and the LED blinks..
[02:12] <sary> cipher6: rxvt-unicode is nice i use it with openbox sometimes .. but i prefer gnome terminal.
[02:13] <sary> antisaint: check: http://dumb-looks-free.blogspot.com/2014/05/beaglebone-black-bbb-with-generalplus.html
[02:13] <DoYouKnow> sary: I'm on DOS, I use copy
[02:14] <sary> wow , i though i was havin;  lag..
[02:14] <sary> DoYouKnow: you mean copy.com!
[02:15] <cipher6> what just happened to the chat
[02:15] <cipher6> does it turn over every so often
[02:15] <sary> I think it's net-split..
[02:15] <DoYouKnow> sary: yes, all my copy'in be on command.com shell
[02:16] <DoYouKnow> copy.com is from VMS isn't it?
[02:16] <DoYouKnow> I didn't know there was a copy.com in DOS... maybe in v,3,4,5
[02:18] <DoYouKnow> forget that, I'm on microVAX VMS
[02:18] <DoYouKnow> lol
[02:19] <sary> DoYouKnow: i was actually refering to cp , see man cp .. but thanks i never knew OpenVMS exist.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS
[02:20] <DoYouKnow> It used to be just VMS
[02:21] <DoYouKnow> they had a version for microVAX, and when DIGITAL got bouught by HP/Compaq, they added the Alpha architecture
[02:21] <antisaint> worked till mplayer
[02:21] <antisaint> Whatever this crap means I dont do mplayer :( mjpeg @ 0x7f63ef133100]No JPEG data found in image Error while decoding frame! V:   0.0  89/ 89 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[02:22] <DoYouKnow> $SYS$CONFIG
[02:22] <DoYouKnow> lol
[02:24] <DoYouKnow> I love the VMS syntax, it brings me back to the days of all-caps chatting
[02:25] <PipeItToDevNull> Sounds like an angry time, Scottish people using sheep as money times.
[02:26] <CodeMouse92__> !offtopic
[02:44] <slide23> Can anyone help me with my network config? I have 2 ip addresses from my cloud provider, the first one is working fine, but the second one doesn't. https://pastebin.com/raw/X4WFd9Rf
[02:45] <slide23> "ip -4 addr show eth0" only reports the first one, though im not sure that it would report both. Should it?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> slide23: ' ip link ls ' Should show all your NICs .
[02:48] <PipeItToDevNull> slide23, eth0 can only have one IP, eth1 would be the other interface
[02:48] <slide23> i only have one interface
[02:50] <oerheks> maybe your cloud-provider-adminpanel can bind that 2nd ip to that interface
[02:54] <slide23> as far as I was aware you can assign multiple ips to a single interface hmm
[02:55] <slide23> and actually, manually running "ip addr add yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy/24 dev eth0 label eth0:1" made it work
[02:55] <slide23> now why didnt it come up automatically
[02:56] <PipeItToDevNull> slide23, then add that to the interface file
[02:56] <PipeItToDevNull> https://askubuntu.com/questions/474298/multiple-ips-on-different-subnets-on-one-interface#474305
[02:56] <slide23> its in there
[02:56] <slide23> https://pastebin.com/raw/X4WFd9Rf
[02:56] <PipeItToDevNull> Doesnt look the same
[02:57] <oerheks> :-)
[02:58] <slide23> thats apparently what linode generates via their "network-helper" https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/network-helper
[03:24] <DanteEdward> Question
[03:24] <DanteEdward> When I open menu items in either Teamspeak or VLC, the menu appears noteably far away from where I clicked to open it
[03:25] <DanteEdward> Is there any way to fix that :v
[03:42] <abb4s> hey every body , i want to install docker ce on ubuntu , i followed the instructions here  :https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/docker-ce/ubuntu/#install-using-the-repository but there is  not docker-ce pakcage for install there is just docker package
[04:25] <Intee> Hey not sure who was helping me an hour ago with my being a moron and chown'ing everything in var to www-data but I fixed it without a reinstall :)
[04:25] <Intee> Just in case someone has the problem again this fixes it: dpkg --get-selections \* | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -l1 aptitude reinstall
[04:25] <Intee> https://matoski.com/article/debian-restore-var-ownership-permissions/
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:59] <vbotka> Intee, Nice article. FWIW, you might want to consider fmtree (freebsd-buildutils) to store/restore the metadata.
[04:59] <Intee> Oh awesome I'll look into it! thanks heaps.
[05:05] <quarters> I was wondering how to setup xdg env var for use with neovim
[05:05] <quarters> it doesn't look like they are out of the box
[05:15] <ralph101> hi, I have Xubuntu 16.04, upgraded from 14.04,
[05:16] <ralph101> Adobe flash does not play sound, but the video works
[05:16] <ralph101> html5 works fine video and audio
[05:16] <ralph101> testing this with firefox
[05:16] <ralph101> I have tried installing the flash-plugin package - no luck
[05:17] <ralph101> tried restarting computer, firefox, ect, nothing works
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | ralph101 try this
[05:21] <marco25> im getting this error in ubuntu and I have even build from source the lastest beignet.. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100639
[05:22] <ralph101> lotuspsychje, ubottu I tried both of those
[05:22] <ralph101> did not work
[05:26] <herb__> q. ALT+TAB is not switching tasks. It worked when using a different (modern, wireless) keyboard. I swapped to an old "AT" keyboard because the battery failed. The ALT key and the TAB key do both work (in other apps). Any ideas?
[05:27] <SchrodingersScat> ralph101: weird, any ability to share the site?
[05:43] <garFF> Running 'apt policy xserver-xorg-video-intel' returns Installed: (none) - how do I install the package?
[05:50] <Trioxin> Is there something wrong with this partition layout? It won't boot: http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/17/0718/h_1500356965_4265460_271ec184a8.png
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | Trioxin can this help?
[05:51] <Trioxin> kl
[06:17] <EriC^^> Trioxin: it looks fine, are you booting in uefi mode
[06:17] <EriC^^> ?
[06:17] <Trioxin> yeah
[06:18] <EriC^^> Trioxin: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[06:18] <EriC^^> Trioxin: and "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[06:18] <Trioxin> I'm testing a different method now thouhg
[06:18] <Trioxin> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2241328
[06:19] <EriC^^> hmm, what is that for? any special filesystems?
[06:19] <Trioxin> f2fs
[06:19] <EriC^^> oh ok
[06:19] <Trioxin> it's MUCH faster than ext4
[06:20] <Trioxin> for ssd anyway
[06:22] <EriC^^> try to join their support channel as well
[06:23] <herb__> (repost, I asked this an hour ago, I think no response)
[06:23] <herb__> . ALT+TAB is not switching tasks. It worked when using a different (modern, wireless) keyboard. I swapped to an old "AT" keyboard because the battery failed. The ALT key and the TAB key do both work (in other apps). Any ideas?
[07:05] <Trioxin> how do I use update-grub2 from a live cd if /boot is efi? I'm getting /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig 252: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: cannot create /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: Directory nonexistent
[07:05] <Trioxin> I'm working on a drive and I'm chrooted to it
[07:07] <Teemo> Trioxin: You need to boot from the flash drive in EFI mode
[07:07] <Teemo> Trioxin: There ought to be 2 options in your Bios load order, one for EFI and one without
[07:07] <Teemo> Trioxin: see here https://superuser.com/a/376471/82859
[07:07] <Trioxin> hmm. it's vmware. will try
[07:08] <vbotka> herb__, you might want to run xev and see what's the difference.
[07:08] <Teemo> Trioxin: Try also asking in #vmware as there may be some weirdness I don't know of.
[07:09] <Trioxin> virtualbox rather. alright, I'll figure out how to do it
[07:10] <herb__> vbotka: I don't know how to use xev
[07:11] <herb__> I should...attach it to some window, then alt-tab? or something?
[07:11] <vbotka> herb__, just run xev from the command-line, put mouse cursor into the xev window and press any key.
[07:12] <herb__> the "event tester" window? just has a sorta square
[07:12] <Trioxin> Teemo, I have EFI mode already enabled in vmware bios
[07:13] <herb__> vbotka: you mean the output in xterm when I do alt-tab in there?
[07:13] <vbotka> herb__, what do you think?
[07:13] <Trioxin> I'm at the grub menu for the livecd
[07:24] <herb__> vbotka:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25117255/
[07:26] <vbotka> herb__, FWIW, as a hint: you might want to compare the output and see the difference
[07:27] <herb__> vbotka:  you mean from the other keyboard? unfortunately I cannot, as the battery on that is dead. That's why I had to change keyboard
[07:45] <herb__> if the other keyboard was working, I'd be using it, and not need to ask the question
[08:04] <RainbowFagPride> Hello
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[08:09] <qeni> Hi. I have NanoPi with installed Ubuntu Core. I've install snapd, snapcraft etc. But when i try to do "sudo snap install hello" it says: "error: cannot perform the following tasks:- Mount snap "core" (2382)". How can I fix this?
[08:11] <m4dh4tt4> i have no clue what this snap business is but i think its telling you to mount snap core, have you googled that
[08:12] <m4dh4tt4> whats your end goal anyway?
[08:12] <m4dh4tt4> is this pi zero?>
[08:12] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hey in need of some help again i got ubuntu to install and load on a hp phablet then had problems with the second internal HDD managed to get that working but now i have another problem
[08:12] <m4dh4tt4> sup crackey
[08:12] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i have an external HDD and when i try to mount i get this error
[08:12] <MrCrackPotBuilde> bear with me haha i unplugged it
[08:12] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sda1: Command-line `mount "/media/hdd"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[08:13] <m4dh4tt4> do you know what kind of partition it was?
[08:13] <m4dh4tt4> or what was it on before windows?
[08:14] <MrCrackPotBuilde> well the internal i have two
[08:14] <MrCrackPotBuilde> one is something like mbppf blah blah blah then the second internall 500gb toshiba i set to sda1
[08:15] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but now this external is trying to boot through sda1
[08:15] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but i cant format the external
[08:15] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i need all the data on it and its a Tb hdd
[08:16] <MrCrackPotBuilde> is there a way to get it to mount using a different name like sdb or sdd1
[08:16] <MrCrackPotBuilde> without loosing the data
[08:17] <MrCrackPotBuilde> funny thing is the sda1 is actually mounted perfectly can read and write data
[08:17] <MrCrackPotBuilde> just the external i get that error message
[08:19] <MrCrackPotBuilde> m4dh4tt4 it would be easier for me to redo the internal HDD but can i give that a different name like sdb1 so that the external mounts under sda1
[08:23] <johngilbrough> I'm trying to get a simple goto-top script working for gnome-terminal using xdotool but I cannot get it to select the gnome-terminal window unless it's already in focus - any suggestions?
[08:30] <tarelerulz> I was trying to write an iso to usb thumb drive.  I mess up and did the dd command to my external hard drive.  I have stuff on that drive is it gone?
[08:31] <EriC^^> tarelerulz: no
[08:31] <EriC^^> tarelerulz: how long did you let it run?
[08:32] <tarelerulz> I had DD bs=4m .  It was like seconds it seemed like
[08:32] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Afternoon Eric^^
[08:32] <EriC^^> afternoon MrCrackPotBuilde
[08:32] <EriC^^> tarelerulz: do you have an old paste of your partition table? like sudo parted -l or so?
[08:32] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i got it working sort of
[08:33] <MrCrackPotBuilde> tarelerulz as long as you dont wipe the drive and its not a ssd drive even if data is lost should be able to get it back
[08:34] <tarelerulz> Ok, I don't know but does it matter I was writing an iso too it?
[08:34] <EriC^^> !datarecovery | tarelerulz
[08:34] <EriC^^> tarelerulz: no
[08:35] <EriC^^> !recover | tarelerulz
[08:35] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Eric^^ dont suppose you know why i can't mount any external drives no usb or HDD
[08:36] <EriC^^> try testdisk to get the old partition table back and then mount and copy your files back, your last resort would be photorec, it recovers whatever files it can find without the dir structure or names (and it can search for specific files or headers)
[08:36] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: any errors?
[08:36] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yep
[08:36] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sda1: Command-line `mount "/media/hdd"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error         In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail or so.
[08:37] <EriC^^> anything in dmesg | tail?
[08:37] <MrCrackPotBuilde> media/hdd and sda1 is the same its my internal 500gb hdd
[08:37] <EriC^^> which fs?
[08:37] <EriC^^> and what command are you using to mount it?
[08:37] <MrCrackPotBuilde> [ 2245.095956] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [ 2245.095975] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 [ 2245.097251] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found [ 2245.097280] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 2245.294635]  sda: sda1 sda2 [ 2245.298830] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 2246.027122] EXT4-fs (sda1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem [ 2246.098813] EXT4-fs (sda1): 
[08:37] <EriC^^> !paste | MrCrackPotBuilde
[08:38] <MrCrackPotBuilde> haha thanks
[08:38] <MrCrackPotBuilde> im not using commands
[08:38] <MrCrackPotBuilde> just the filesystem
[08:38] <EriC^^> try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt |& nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:38] <EriC^^> any background story to the issue?
[08:39] <MrCrackPotBuilde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25117514/
[08:39] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ok so you know i was installing ubuntu 16.4 to hp phablet
[08:39] <MrCrackPotBuilde> well i got it working but lost access to my internall second hdd
[08:40] <EriC^^> aha
[08:40] <MrCrackPotBuilde> so i formated it created new partion and fdisk -l listed it as sda sda1
[08:40] <MrCrackPotBuilde> so i gave it a mount point of media/hdd
[08:40] <MrCrackPotBuilde> in fstab i also updated it to include that
[08:40] <EriC^^> ok
[08:40] <EriC^^> type "sudo fdisk /dev/sda"
[08:40] <MrCrackPotBuilde> now when ever i insert any external media i get mounting errors
[08:40] <EriC^^> it has no data you need anymore, correct?
[08:41] <EriC^^> first type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" please
[08:41] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[08:41] <MrCrackPotBuilde> kk
[08:42] <MrCrackPotBuilde> http://termbin.com/ajii
[08:42] <MrCrackPotBuilde> do i unplug the usb stick
[08:42] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hahah
[08:43] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:43] <MrCrackPotBuilde> http://termbin.com/swjb
[08:43] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ah this could be a big problem
[08:44] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: so the /dev/sda toshiba 500gb is the one you want to format right?
[08:44] <MrCrackPotBuilde> although i don't get why it happened ubuntu asked me to install into this partition and tbh its best too
[08:44] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yes
[08:44] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but that last command
[08:45] <MrCrackPotBuilde> says mmcblk blah blah is unrecognised
[08:45] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but thats my ubuntu instalation
[08:45] <EriC^^> i think the bottom one is the installation
[08:45] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yes the MMCblk blah blah
[08:45] <EriC^^> type "df /"
[08:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yer mmcblk mounted on /
[08:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> so thats my ubuntu
[08:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> sda is the toshiba
[08:47] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: ok, type "sudo umount /dev/sda*"
[08:47] <MrCrackPotBuilde> with sda1 the 500gb partition - 7.5 gb
[08:48] <MrCrackPotBuilde> mount point not found
[08:48] <MrCrackPotBuilde> guessing that its media/hdd
[08:48] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: ok, type "sudo fdisk /dev/sda"
[08:48] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hahah nope
[08:48] <MrCrackPotBuilde> not found
[08:49] <EriC^^> done?
[08:49] <MrCrackPotBuilde> fdisk cannot open /dev/sda
[08:49] <EriC^^> i need to leave in a bit please hurry up
[08:49] <EriC^^> hmm wth
[08:49] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yep my point thought exactly
[08:49] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i think i need to completely reinstall
[08:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ubuntu pluss the hdd
[08:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i messed up somewhere
[08:50] <EriC^^> nah it's not related
[08:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> man now its changed to sdb1
[08:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> no longer sda
[08:50] <EriC^^> aha
[08:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> so really just need to change the fstab yes
[08:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> to sdb not sda
[08:50] <EriC^^> if you're sure that's it, then make sure it's not mounted anywhere with "lsblk"
[08:51] <EriC^^> then do sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[08:51] <EriC^^> no, don't use sda sdb in fstab use uuid
[08:51] <EriC^^> i'll brb
[08:51] <MrCrackPotBuilde> were in
[08:51] <EriC^^> sry
[08:51] <MrCrackPotBuilde> no worries
[08:51] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ill be here
[08:51] <m4dh4tt4> no like
[08:51] <EriC^^> k
[08:51] <m4dh4tt4> boot with external unplugged maybe?
[08:51] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Thanks Eric^^
[08:51] <MrCrackPotBuilde> m4dh4tta nah tried that
[08:51] <m4dh4tt4> sry nvm thoughht i read it all
[08:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hahah no problem
[08:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> normally creating hdd and partition is simple
[08:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but for some reason it just wont work for me
[08:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i think i buggered the fstab
[08:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> and also the set up trying to get the internal to mount automatically
[08:54] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: back
[08:54] <EriC^^> ok, is fdisk still open?
[08:55] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yes and /dev/sdb loaded
[08:55] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: ok, press "o" to make a new partition table, then press "n" for a new partition
[08:55] <EriC^^> hit enter for everything it asks
[08:55] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: do you want to make a linux partition (ext) or something you can share with windows (ntfs fat32) ?
[08:55] <MrCrackPotBuilde> p primary
[08:55] <EriC^^> yup that's good
[08:55] <MrCrackPotBuilde> no this is internal
[08:56] <EriC^^> so linux is good?
[08:56] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yep
[08:56] <EriC^^> ok, when it asks for type hit enter (it should say 8300)
[08:56] <ChogyDan> ok tricky question [q] If I were a programmer, and I wanted to hack the desktop, which DE would be easiest to hack away on?  Ie, plasma, unity, gnome3, lxde, others?
[08:56] <EriC^^> after it's done go to "write" and press enter then quit
[08:57] <MrCrackPotBuilde> it hasnt asked for type
[08:57] <MrCrackPotBuilde> just secotors
[08:57] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: press enter
[08:57] <ChogyDan> also, suggestions welcome of a better place to ask that question.  I'm just familiar with #ubuntu
[08:57] <MrCrackPotBuilde> created new partition
[08:57] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ChogyDan
[08:57] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: ok, go to "type" make sure it's 8300 then press "write"
[08:57] <MrCrackPotBuilde> there is no perfect
[08:58] <MrCrackPotBuilde> you need to be able to use all linux windows and mac
[08:58] <MrCrackPotBuilde> changed partition ffrom linux to unknown
[08:58] <ChogyDan> MrCrackPotBuilde, by hack, I mean literally open the code, and start changing things
[08:58] <MrCrackPotBuilde> then linux
[08:58] <MrCrackPotBuilde> you need to start looking at hex and hashes
[08:58] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: ok, did you write?
[08:59] <MrCrackPotBuilde> try something simple like a dlink router
[08:59] <MrCrackPotBuilde> not yet
[08:59] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yes written
[08:59] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: ok quit, then type "sudo partprobe"
[08:59] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ChogyDan first start looking at dlink routers firmware lots of info and help online and its a good place to start
[09:00] <MrCrackPotBuilde> you will need to use any linux based os best is debian again for the support
[09:00] <ChogyDan> MrCrackPotBuilde, I want to hack a desktop environment
[09:00] <EriC^^> get the partition name from sudo parted -l again, then type "sudo mkfs.ext /dev/sdxY"
[09:00] <bazhang> ChogyDan, MrCrackPotBuilde please take the offtopic chatter elsewhere
[09:00] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: paste the line you have in /etc/fstab please
[09:00] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ChongyDan hacking a desktop is not firmware really unless your going after bios
[09:01] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ChonyDan goto #security
[09:01] <MrCrackPotBuilde> or search channel lists and look for firmware
[09:01] <MrCrackPotBuilde> sorry bazhang
[09:01] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ok Eric^^ loading fstab
[09:01] <ChogyDan> bazhang, sorry, he is giving me weird unhelpful responses.  I'll happily take my question to offline.
[09:03] <MrCrackPotBuilde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25117607/
[09:03] <ChogyDan> fwiw, I did not ask about linux, nor firmware, nor routers.  But thanks for the attention!  Choa!
[09:03] <MrCrackPotBuilde> you asked to hack
[09:03] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i gave you advice
[09:03] <bazhang> thats enough please
[09:03] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: ok, did you run the mkfs command?
[09:03] <MrCrackPotBuilde> not yet
[09:03] <MrCrackPotBuilde> will do that now
[09:04] <ChogyDan> oh, I get it sorry, I meant hack as in program.  Not system administer.  bazhang #ubuntu-offline is nothing
[09:04] <MrCrackPotBuilde> wait which should i choose
[09:04] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ChongyDan he means anywhere but here
[09:04] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: choose the partition from sudo parted -l
[09:05] <bazhang> ChogyDan, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <MrCrackPotBuilde> mkfs /dev/sdb
[09:05] <EriC^^> no, /dev/sdb1
[09:05] <ChogyDan> bazhang, thanks!
[09:05] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ok
[09:05] <MrCrackPotBuilde> running now
[09:06] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: ok, type "sudo blkid /dev/sdb1"
[09:06] <MrCrackPotBuilde> wait wait wait hahahaha
[09:06] <MrCrackPotBuilde> shes a little slow this girl
[09:06] <EriC^^> :D
[09:06] <MrCrackPotBuilde> 754/3727
[09:06] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hahaha shes a crawling well rolling
[09:07] <MrCrackPotBuilde> kinda
[09:07] <MrCrackPotBuilde> while we do that im going to remove the sda from fstab
[09:07] <MrCrackPotBuilde> as its that causing my mount issues
[09:09] <MrCrackPotBuilde> YAY Eric^^ usb and external now mount
[09:09] <MrCrackPotBuilde> now to get this hdd working
[09:09] <MrCrackPotBuilde> any idea why it would change from sda to sdb
[09:10] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: nope it's pretty odd, unless it got unplugged and plugged back or something (but then i think that needs hotplug feature) dunno really
[09:10] <MrCrackPotBuilde> im 100% sure yesterday it was sda1 as i spent bloody ages getting it to mount
[09:10] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hhhmmm could it be the battery died during an update
[09:11] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: yeah that stuff can change on boots based on hdd's and stuff
[09:11] <ktonga> hi guys, I have a bug (?) that has been annoying me for a few weeks but I dont really know how to report coz it's kind of special
[09:11] <MrCrackPotBuilde> as that happened last night i fell asleep on the keyboard hahah was up till 4am
[09:11] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: if you want to add it to fstab to automount or so you should use the uuid instead
[09:11] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ah that i have no idea how to do but im sure there is a tutorial
[09:11] <EriC^^> like UUID=12302132112 /media/hdd ext4 defaults 0 2
[09:11] <EriC^^> the uuid is found in sudo blkid /dev/sdb1
[09:12] <ktonga> it only happens under certain circumstances
[09:12] <EriC^^> hmm what does mkfs.ext format by default?
[09:13] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Eric^^ ii get it same as how the os is automounted using the same prcess i see in my fstab
[09:13] <ktonga> I was hoping you can help me to debug it so I can report it or even better fix it :)
[09:13] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: check what fs it has right now with "sudo blkid /dev/sdb1"
[09:13] <EriC^^> ext3 or ext4
[09:13] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: yup
[09:13] <MrCrackPotBuilde> got it
[09:13] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ok dont help me with this bit
[09:14] <MrCrackPotBuilde> need to learn but can you just confirm if im right or not
[09:14] <ktonga> the headline is laptop wont resume from suspension
[09:14] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: if it's ext3 we should rerun the command as mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1   (my bad)
[09:14] <EriC^^> ext4 is newer and better
[09:15] <EriC^^> also when you run mkfs the uuid changes cause it makes a new filesystem
[09:15] <EriC^^> i will brb in a few mins let me know how it goes and stuff
[09:16] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ah ok
[09:20] <EriC^^> back
[09:22] <MrCrackPotBuilde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25117678/
[09:22] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i think it should be this
[09:22] <MrCrackPotBuilde> mount point of /media/hdd
[09:25] <MrCrackPotBuilde> no still have an error
[09:25] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hahah
[09:26] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Eric^^ should it be 2 at the end or 0
[09:27] <EriC^^> what error do you get?
[09:27] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: first try sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/hdd to mount it
[09:28] <EriC^^> if that goes well, try sudo mount /media/hdd   (that will look for it using fstab and mount it with those options)
[09:29] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i got it to mount but i need to chmod it
[09:29] <MrCrackPotBuilde> so give me two mins
[09:31] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Eric^^ dude i owe you a beer
[09:31] <MrCrackPotBuilde> it bloody works
[09:31] <MrCrackPotBuilde> by jove we've done it
[09:31] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i know have a hp phablet with linux full touch screen capabilities
[09:31] <MrCrackPotBuilde> 500Gb internal hdd
[09:31] <czr> hi. is there a channel to ask networking questions? (having issues bringing up DHCP on a VLAN interface on 16.04.2, which causes 5 minute delay into the boot process)
[09:31] <MrCrackPotBuilde> running as smooth as a babys bym
[09:32] <MrCrackPotBuilde> czr best to try #security
[09:32] <angular_mike_> is there a way to make java 7 the default java version?
[09:32] <angular_mike_> so that maven uses it?
[09:32] <MrCrackPotBuilde> angular_mike_ should be in the applications settings
[09:33] <czr> MrCrackPotBuilde, didn't look very relevant..
[09:33] <angular_mike_> MrCrackPotBuilde: wot
[09:33] <angular_mike_> im on Ubuntu server
[09:33] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yes goto mavens settings
[09:33] <angular_mike_> you mean config file?
[09:33] <MrCrackPotBuilde> then find the file which directs the path to java
[09:33] <angular_mike_> or pom?
[09:33] <MrCrackPotBuilde> and modifiy it to the java 7 directory
[09:34] <czr> what I'm looking for is to tell the boot process to continue even if it cannot get DHCP address on an interface immediately. without editing the upstream configuration since that causes gray hair in the long run
[09:34] <MrCrackPotBuilde> not sure im not too familiar with maven but i had to do the same for a few apps
[09:34] <angular_mike_> what about jAVA_HOME?
[09:34] <MrCrackPotBuilde> thats a system path if im not mistaken
[09:34] <MrCrackPotBuilde> if you want all apps to use java 7 you can do that
[09:34] <angular_mike_> it's set to /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64 right now, but maven seems to be using version 52
[09:35] <MrCrackPotBuilde> you need to find the config file which is directing maven
[09:35] <angular_mike_> where is it on ubuntu?
[09:35] <fishcooker> how to set crontab with this command "sleep $[RANDOM%14]s && echo $(date) >> /tmp/check.cron"
[09:35] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i have no idea sorry pal
[09:35] <MrCrackPotBuilde> where did you install the program too
[09:35] <fishcooker> cronjob minutely
[09:36] <MrCrackPotBuilde> etc bin usr temp
[09:36] <MrCrackPotBuilde> moment of truth im going to reboot lets see what happens
[09:36] <angular_mike_> $ mvn --v
[09:36] <angular_mike_> Apache Maven 3.3.9
[09:36] <angular_mike_> Maven home: /usr/share/maven
[09:36] <angular_mike_> Java version: 1.7.0_95, vendor: Oracle Corporation
[09:36] <angular_mike_> Java home: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre
[09:36] <angular_mike_> Default locale: en_US, platform encoding: UTF-8
[09:36] <angular_mike_> OS name: "linux", version: "4.4.0-62-generic", arch: "amd64", family: "unix"
[09:36] <MrCrackPotBuilde> brb
[09:37] <MrCrackPotBuilde> there you go maven is in usr/share/maven
[09:37] <MrCrackPotBuilde> it should be in bin
[09:37] <MrCrackPotBuilde> so usr/share/maven/bin
[09:37] <IhrFussel> Okay it's me again...the screen corruption + lock up happened again WITHOUT any downloads, so it's not the ethernet
[09:37] <MrCrackPotBuilde> angular_mike_ brb
[09:39] <angular_mike_> IhrFussel: maybe it's due to bad morals
[09:42] <IhrFussel> angular_mike_, jokes aside... do you think it can be caused by the PSU even if the PC runs fine for many hours and then SUDDENLY locks up with an corruption (I can send a screen if you want to see it)
[09:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> Shes alive and working UUID worked a treat
[09:47] <MrCrackPotBuilde> all usb and external hdd now mount and internal hdd automounts
[09:47] <MrCrackPotBuilde> thanks Eric^^
[09:47] <MrCrackPotBuilde> your a star
[09:47] <EriC^^> MrCrackPotBuilde: no problem :D
[09:47] <EriC^^> great
[09:48] <IhrFussel> This is what the corruption looks like and the symptom is always the same (parts of the current screen repeated all over the display) https://i.imgur.com/Os1lcujr.jpg
[09:50] <IhrFussel> I tried to open up the tower and saw a RED LED in next to the 2 empty PCI slots ... any a clue what it means?
[09:57] <Thanzex> Hi there! I'm on Ubuntu 17.04, I'm trying to access a Windows shared folder on the network, i can easily connect through nautilus to the machine and see all the shares, however, i only have read permission for them while in windows they are set for FULL acess to everyone, any idea?
[10:16] <IhrFussel> Here is a pic with the red led...like I said it sits next to 2 empty PCI slots & there is a small black chip too (not sure what it does) https://i.imgur.com/ihzwdoMr.jpg
[10:20] <MrCrackPotBuilde> angular_mike_ did you get it sorted
[10:20] <angular_mike_> MrCrackPotBuilde: nah
[10:21] <MrCrackPotBuilde> ok give me a sec to read up on the soft
[10:21] <MrCrackPotBuilde> see if we can pass forward the help
[10:23] <MrCrackPotBuilde>  angular_mike_ do you have any other programs using java
[10:24] <MrCrackPotBuilde> if not set JAVA_HOME to the java path
[10:25] <MrCrackPotBuilde> can also check the mvn script see if its coded there
[10:27] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but if you have more than one java version installed you will have to use the mvn file
[10:27] <MrCrackPotBuilde> should be maven/bin/mvn
[10:27] <MrCrackPotBuilde> let me know if that helps
[10:29] <angular_mike_> MrCrackPotBuilde: I downloaded a newer oozie release
[10:29] <angular_mike_> checking if it will bould
[10:29] <jntme> how can I show the owner group of a directory on ubuntu 16? ls -l does not seem to work
[10:30] <angular_mike_> jntme: ls -ld
[10:30] <jntme> @angular_mike_ thats the output which it gives me: drwxr-xr-x 6 root 4096 Jul 18 12:18 .
[10:31] <jntme> is root the group?
[10:31] <angular_mike_> I guess it is
[10:31] <jntme> I don't think so
[10:31] <angular_mike_> or it's ""
[10:32] <angular_mike_> jntme: what is the output of `stat <dir>`
[10:32] <angular_mike_> ?
[10:34] <jntme> how do I send multiline in here?
[10:35] <IhrFussel> Use a paste site like pastebin.com
[10:35] <angular_mike_> jntme: it should be possible to format it to just output group and guid
[10:36] <jntme> @angular_mike_ https://unsee.cc/rubizase/
[10:36] <angular_mike_> jntme: like this for example: `stat . --format "%U %u %G %g"`
[10:37] <angular_mike_> stat <dir> --format "%U %u %G %g"
[10:37] <angular_mike_> jntme: >sending a screenshot
[10:37] <jntme> @angular_mike_ root 0 root 0
[10:38] <angular_mike_> jntme: well, then I guess the owenr group is root and there's something wrong with the outuput of ls
[10:38] <jntme> @angular_mike_ I don't get it
[10:38] <angular_mike_> IhrFussel: idk, sorry
[10:39] <angular_mike_> %G     group name of owner
[10:39] <jntme> @angular_mike_ had this on two different brand new ubuntu 16 machines
[10:39] <angular_mike_> jntme: `which ls`
[10:40] <jntme> @angular_mike_ returns `aliased to ls -G`
[10:41] <jntme> @angular_mike_ lol
[10:41] <angular_mike_> jntme: "-G" is an option "don't print group names"
[10:41] <angular_mike_> like I said
[10:41] <angular_mike_> distros sometimes do these weird aliases which makes stuff stop working like you expect it to
[10:41] <jntme> @angular_mike_ sorry for bothering you with something like that -.-
[10:41] <angular_mike_> no problem, been there, done that
[10:42] <jntme> @angular_mike_ is there a way to find out where this alias is set?
[10:42] <angular_mike_> you could check the config files of your shell
[10:42] <angular_mike_> I assume it's bash
[10:42] <angular_mike_> ~/.bashrc
[10:42] <jntme> @angular_mike_ doing that right now
[10:42] <jntme> @angular_mike_ acutally its zsh
[10:43] <angular_mike_> don't know about zsh
[10:43] <angular_mike_> but there should be user-specific config files hidden in home dirs
[10:43] <jntme> @angular_mike_ looks like I actually set this.. that happens when you copy an paste together your dotfiles
[10:43] <angular_mike_> and a one in /etc
[10:43] <angular_mike_> jntme: kek
[10:44] <jntme> @angular_mike_ x)
[10:44] <jntme> @angular_mike_ anyway thanks a lot - that would have taken forever without you
[10:44] <angular_mike_> np
[10:45] <jntme> @angular_mike_ not matter the simplicity of the solution
[10:45]  * angular_mike_ is still waiting for maven to finish building
[10:46] <PCatinean> Hi everyone, how can I backup two different files to two different locations with duplicity?
[10:46] <angular_mike_> PCatinean: how should changes to the files in one of the locations handled?
[10:47] <PCatinean> angular_mike_, i'm not sure, they should be separate I think
[10:47] <PCatinean> One contains a db.dump and another a filestore
[10:48] <angular_mike_> do you want the backups to happen automatically on some schedule?
[10:48] <angular_mike_> do you want the destination locations to track history of changes to the files?
[10:50] <PCatinean> Automatically daily yes, and a cron is already set in the docker container
[10:50] <Teemo> Sublime text (3) users, when I run "subl /path/to/some_dir" I get a new sublime instance open with that dir as the project root, but it ALSO opens another window with all my previous stuff. Is there some way to launch just a fresh instance without the old one too?
[10:50] <PCatinean> angular_mike_, I'm not sure how history helps but I guess it helps preserve space so yes
[10:50] <angular_mike_> PCatinean: do you care whether the file is fully copied each time or whether it checks if it has changed since last time and only do it then
[10:51] <PCatinean> I suppose I do not? Not sure but if it has not changed then should not be a problem
[10:51] <PCatinean> Everything else is redundancy I think?
[10:51] <shnaykhs> Hello, how can I configure grub to include a USB key boot ? (I have an LFS system installed on a usb key)
[10:52] <angular_mike_> PCatinean: your use case sounds more and more like rsync to me
[10:52] <angular_mike_> if you want to do a simple copy without any bells and whistles you can put scp in a cron job
[10:52] <PCatinean> angular_mike_, it's for saving e postgresql database dump and filestore + session of a webserver
[10:52] <PCatinean> all of this to amazon s3 server
[10:54] <shnaykhs> I have this grub "grub-install.real (GRUB) 2.02~beta3-4ubuntu2" how can I modify it to include a boot from USB ?
[10:54] <angular_mike_> huh, BUILD SUCCESS
[10:55] <PCatinean> sorry?
[10:55] <angular_mike_> PCatinean: my own thing
[10:55] <angular_mike_> shnaykhs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[10:56] <angular_mike_> tell me if this works for your version
[10:58] <shnaykhs> angular_mike_ if I understand I first need to reboot to enter the grub menu ?
[10:58] <angular_mike_> shnaykhs: grub is supposed to be run before booting the OS, so that's the natural place for it
[10:59] <shnaykhs> so I need to have another computer to follow the instructions while on grub
[10:59] <shnaykhs> ok
[10:59] <angular_mike_> shnaykhs: if you don't want to "reboot" reboot, you can try experimenting in a VM
[10:59] <angular_mike_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/314754/how-to-get-the-grub-using-virtualbox
[11:06] <shnaykhs> Whe, I hit c while on the grub menu, nothin happens !
[11:10] <jspaceman> hope this doesn't sound too complicated but I was looking at installing weechat on my ubuntu 16.04 following method 1 from this page - http://sourcedigit.com/19873-install-weechat-irc-chat-client-linux-ubuntu-16-04/  I got about half way through the process but stopped and decided to just use hexchat.  My question is since I never completed the installation of weechat are those earlier commands I entered still lingering
[11:10] <jspaceman> somewhere or are they wiped out after reboot?
[11:12] <shnaykhs> While n grub command line, when I type root (hd1,0), it says shows an error: can't find command root !
[11:15] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: it's "set root"
[11:16] <angular_mike_> EriC^^: grub 2?
[11:16] <shnaykhs> set root (hd1,0) [11:16] <EriC^^> angular_mike_: yup
[11:17] <EriC^^> set root='(hd1,0)'
[11:17] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: what's the problem you're having?
[11:17] <EriC^^> in general
[11:19] <IhrFussel> I'll run a memtest now
[11:22] <shnaykhs> arr I cannot find the char ' while being on grub with this swedish keyboard :/
[11:22] <Ben64> jspaceman: they are still there
[11:24] <shnaykhs> EriC^^ set root='(hd1,0)' error not an assignement
[11:24] <jspaceman> ben64:  is there a way to clear those earlier commands?
[11:24] <shnaykhs> EriC^^ I just want to add a boot from usb to my grub list
[11:25] <Ben64> jspaceman: probably sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/weechat.list
[11:25] <shnaykhs> ok it works I forgot the =
[11:25] <Ben64> jspaceman: and why would you install it that way anyway? weechat is in the ubuntu repos
[11:25] <Ben64> jspaceman: pretty much any software is there, check it before doing steps you find online :)
[11:25] <jspaceman> was not aware of that...still learning ubuntu as of this week
[11:25] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: are you in grub> prompt right now or grub rescue> ?
[11:26] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: you mean you have a fully installed os on your usb?
[11:26] <shnaykhs> EriC^^, it is grub>
[11:26] <shnaykhs> EriC^^ yes I have an LFS installed on USB key
[11:26] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: did you try update-grub from ubuntu?
[11:27] <shnaykhs> why do I need this
[11:27] <Ben64> jspaceman: windows way - oh i need to install inkscape... go to google type "inkscape download" etc......                 ubuntu way - sudo apt-get install inkscape
[11:27] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: that looks for installs and makes a grub config automatically
[11:27] <shnaykhs> EriC^^ update-grub will detect the os installed on my USB ?
[11:28] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: i'm not sure, it's worth a shot though
[11:28] <jspaceman> yea, really enjoying the command line method...going over the ubuntu manual as well
[11:28] <shnaykhs> I need to reboot again then :/
[11:29] <shnaykhs> I am following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB but most of commands are not recognized
[11:29] <shnaykhs> find /[tab] [11:29] <shnaykhs> angular_mike_ any other solution ?
[11:30] <angular_mike_> shnaykhs: yeah, i think the guide i linked you is outdated for the version of grab you're using
[11:30] <angular_mike_> at best you can look up their differences and map the commands appropriately
[11:31] <angular_mike_> shnaykhs: https://askubuntu.com/questions/386396/find-command-not-available-in-grub-2-terminal
[11:31] <shnaykhs> their must something straightforward for grub2 that I can follow
[11:33] <shnaykhs> angular_mike_ not only the command changes but the syntax itself
[11:33] <jspaceman> wow, that worked great...thanks ben
[11:35] <jspaceman> there is also a weechat.list.save and a weechat-stable-xenial...are those safe to remove as well?
[11:37] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: try "ls" in grub
[11:37] <EriC^^> get the name of the partition that has your kernel
[11:37] <shnaykhs> I did there is a list
[11:37] <shnaykhs> I don't know which one is the USB
[11:37] <shnaykhs> :p
[11:37] <EriC^^> try ls (hd1,0)/boot
[11:37] <EriC^^> try 'ls -l' it might give more info
[11:38] <shnaykhs> (memdisk) (loop0) (hd0) (hd0,msdos4) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1)
[11:38] <shnaykhs> I get this list
[11:40] <shnaykhs> looks like hd1 is the right one. Is 7884800KiB arround 7 giga bytes ? EriC^^
[11:40] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: yeah
[11:40] <EriC^^> try ls (hd1)/
[11:41] <shnaykhs> yes I get the list of directories
[11:42] <shnaykhs> ls (hd1)/boot vmlinuz-4.9.... etc
[11:42] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: ok type set root='(hd1)'
[11:43] <EriC^^> does ls (hd1)  show you the uuid?
[11:43] <shnaykhs> yes
[11:43] <dupondje> Is there a way to do java in firefox/chrome(ium)? Seems like everything is blocked those days ...
[11:44] <EriC^^> ok type linux /boot/<tab complete your kernel here> root=UUID=<put the uuid here>
[11:44] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: then initrd /boot/<tab complete the initrd>
[11:44] <EriC^^> then type "boot"
[11:48] <shnaykhs> EriC^^ the initrd is something like System.map-4.9.9 ? config-4.9.9 ?
[11:49] <glitsj16> dupondje: haven't used a java plugin in ages, but you could check in Java Control Panel, should have a setting to enable java in browsers.. I guess it's disabled by default
[11:49] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: no, initrd.img
[11:49] <shnaykhs> EriC^^ in /boot there are only System.map-4.9.9, config-4.9.9 and vmlinuz-4.9.9-lfs-..
[11:51] <dupondje> glitsj16: its not :( NPAPI support shit :(
[11:51] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: hmm no idea
[11:51] <EriC^^> shnaykhs: try asking in the lfs support channel as well
[11:51] <EriC^^> or ##Linux
[11:53] <ducasse> dupondje: i think you need to use the esr release of firefox (until it's removed there as well)
[11:53] <glitsj16> dupondje: yes that's all changed, browsers are becoming a real pain sadly enough
[11:56] <JPelletier> Hey there, quick question: When I boot with earlyprintk=efi it's really slow, like every single line printed on screen take 4 seconds. This is normal? Can I make it faster?
[11:58] <daincredibleholg> I am still struggling to get my RX550 running under Ubuntu. I am now have it to a point, where clinfo recognises it. And my self-compiled Genoil ethminer sees it as well - at least when I use "-G --list-devices". But once I try mining, it only recognises the other card (nvidia GTX1050Ti). Even explicitly selecting the card with "--opencl-device 1" (which is the deviceID I got from --list-devices) does not
[11:58] <daincredibleholg> help. Any ideas?
[12:06] <leftyfb> daincredibleholg: that sounds like a miner problem, not ubuntu. Especially since clinfo is detecting the card. This isn't really a supported issue.
[12:08] <aiena> I am trying to reset my localhost mysql root password. When I start the mysqld via systemd the socket file is created fine in /var/run/mysql but if I launch mysqld_safe manually it errors out do I need to manually make /var/run/mysql  ?
[12:09] <daincredibleholg> @leftyfb Well, yeah, but was still hoping for some hints
[12:10] <daincredibleholg> @aiena Does it work when you connect via tcp/ip or is networking disabled?
[12:10] <aiena> daincredibleholg: its a local mysqld so networking shouldnt matter
[12:10] <imofftopic> hi
[12:10] <imofftopic> Any decent Video editors for Linux?
[12:11] <imofftopic> Or we have to use Mac or Windows for higher level video editing?
[12:11] <daincredibleholg> @aiena: Well, if it is not listening on a file socket, maybe you can connect via TCP/IP - `mysql -h 127.0.0.1` is your friend
[12:12] <leftyfb> imofftopic: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/best-linux-video-editing-software-2016
[12:13] <aiena> If I so "systemctl start mysql.service" the socket file is created and all is well if I top the service via "systemctl stop mysql.service" and then relaunch it in a root shell (sudo -i) it fails even as root to create the socket file it errors out like this http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/71bdfb36
[12:14] <daincredibleholg> @aiena What does the log file say?
[12:15] <aiena> danielhuman:  I am trying to follow along with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset the same happens with
[12:15] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  how do I check
[12:16] <aiena> I mean what file to I cat/less/more/grep ?
[12:16] <aiena> *do I
[12:16] <daincredibleholg> well, check your screen output, you just posted, and take an educated guess ;)
[12:17] <aiena> my educated guess is starting the mysqld manually is not creating the /var/run/mysql folder and the socket file
[12:17] <aiena> but shouldnt this be automatically done by just launching the mysqld ?
[12:17] <daincredibleholg> mate, mysql tells you where it logs to
[12:18] <daincredibleholg> just read
[12:18] <aiena> ah sorry
[12:18] <daincredibleholg> ;)
[12:19] <aiena> wait I'll just clean the error log it has so much stuff in it cant make out what is the cause
[12:20] <daincredibleholg> well, then do not run mysqld in the background but use two command windows, one with the process running and one where you try to connect to it
[12:21] <shnaykhs> after having a kernel panic I restarted the computer, and now ubuntu is very slow. Any explanations ?
[12:22] <daincredibleholg> check dmesg and syslog, any hints in there, @shnaykhs?
[12:22] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  seems like some SSL issue http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/8e0a1d70
[12:22] <shnaykhs> (note the kernel panic isn't due to ubuntu, it happened when I tried to boot from another system)
[12:22] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  why does systemd happily launch mysql though
[12:24] <daincredibleholg> Does /var/run/mysqld exist?
[12:24] <daincredibleholg> Check the unit file
[12:25] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  no it does not exists by default systemd seems to create it while launching mysql.service and remove it afterwards is there a risk to manually creating it
[12:26] <daincredibleholg> well, only one way to find out ;)
[12:26] <daincredibleholg> create it and it should be fine
[12:26] <daincredibleholg> wouldn't worry about the SSL message in this case
[12:27] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  I created it now I can confirm the folder is there but the socket file is still not created inside it
[12:28] <Meliorator> hi all, i have a little issue with pulseaudio that i'd like to resolve. basically, pulse-equalizer is not effective until i run qpaeq manually, after a system reboot. i found this in the log: The name org.PulseAudio1 was not provided by any .service files, but not really sure how it should be resolved?
[12:28] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  wait it seems to be doing some junk
[12:29] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  its creating a socket file in /tmp and other files in the non root home user
[12:29] <aiena> I used a "sudo -i" interactive shell
[12:31] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/a75912f4 I just changed the username to blabla
[12:31] <aiena> but this is so weird
[12:31] <daincredibleholg> hmm, ok - can you connect to it using the socket in /tmp?
[12:31] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  how do I manually specify the socket using mysql -u root -p ?
[12:31] <daincredibleholg> man mysql
[12:32] <aiena> But its still a mystery why this is hapenning I am not even the regular user anymore
[12:32] <aiena> yup --socket lets see
[12:32] <aiena> yeah it connects ok that way
[12:33] <aiena> thank you daincredibleholg but any idea why it is creating the socket file eslewhere and using the home users data dirs ? I never used "sudo su"
[12:34] <daincredibleholg> no idea
[12:34] <daincredibleholg> and you can / should use `sudo -i`
[12:34] <aiena> daincredibleholg:  thankfully ps -aux shows parameters used
[12:35] <aiena> otherwise never would have guessed
[12:37] <rigid> ahoy
[12:37] <rigid> could it be that canonical partner (zesty) doesn't include skype anymore?
[12:37] <daincredibleholg> he he ;)
[12:38] <daincredibleholg> @rigid Skype retired the old client. You should be able to download the latest one from their website
[12:38] <rigid> daincredibleholg: ah, so I need to do that...
[12:40] <rigid> daincredibleholg: thank you
[12:40] <daincredibleholg> Yeah, sorry. Not sure if the new one will end up in an official ppa
[12:40] <daincredibleholg> or repo
[12:40] <daincredibleholg> no worries
[12:40] <rigid> i hope that skype dies a miserable death and people will switch to something more sane...
[12:41] <rigid> VoIP and Instant messaging is broken like 1985 :)
[12:42] <daincredibleholg> he he - yeah, and then "Skype For Business".... but hey, many people still use it
[12:42] <daincredibleholg> sadly
[12:43] <rigid> all my business folks is unhappy with it (not a single one didn't notice the change to microsoft. everyone is moaning)... i suppose it's only a matter of time
[12:45] <daincredibleholg> we thought that so often... but hey, on the upside, they do use WebRTC and Electron now, what can possibly go wrong with that?!
[12:49] <rigid> hehe... true. there's not much hope for microsoft getting sane :-P
[12:52] <daincredibleholg> well, this way it is easy to check whats sane and whats insane - Like M$? == Insane
[12:52] <daincredibleholg> :P
[12:53] <zetheroo1> I have two SSH keys in my .ssh folder but it seems that one (the one that I manually copied from another PC) is being ignored
[12:54] <Rhapsody> Hey all, I'm trying to use xrdp to connect to my Ubuntu server from my Windows 10 machine. Both machines are on totally different networks and are completely unconnected to each other. When I attempt to connect to said machine via RDP on Windows, I get an error; "Because of a protocol error detected at the client (code 0x2104) this session will be disconnected."
[12:54] <Rhapsody> I'm not quite sure where to start because when I search the error in relation to Ubuntu I get results for Raspberry Pi, which are generally sovled by updating it. Not really applicable here I don't think.
[12:56] <daincredibleholg> zetherool, you can specify the key to use via the -i option
[12:56] <daincredibleholg> or you can simply load the keys in an ssh-agent - in theory, Unity should ask you to type in the passphrase for your key and there should be a tick box for it
[12:57] <daincredibleholg> after that ssh will try all "known" ssh keys (aka the ones loaded) when authenticating
[12:57] <daincredibleholg> if you want special rules on a per host basis, checkout man ssh_config
[12:57] <daincredibleholg> and create this file: ~/.ssh/config
[12:58] <daincredibleholg> where ~ is a shortcut for your home directory
[13:01] <zetheroo1> daincredibleholg: Yes I have been trying to add it with 'ssh-add' and it asks me for a passphrase, but I don't think I set one so I just press Enter.
[13:01] <daincredibleholg> If it asks for one, there is one :P
[13:01] <zetheroo1> hmm ok
[13:02] <daincredibleholg> and also, ssh-add is only adding the default key (~/.ssh/id_rsa in most cases)
[13:02] <daincredibleholg> if you want to add another key, again, use the -i option
[13:02] <daincredibleholg> anyhow, without the ssh agent
[13:02] <zetheroo1> ok
[13:02] <daincredibleholg> does it work when you use ssh-i ~/.ssh/<your priv key> <user>@<host> ?
[13:02] <daincredibleholg> anyhow - off for lunch
[13:04] <zetheroo1> no, asks for password
[13:05] <steelnwool> hello. I just put a 4tb drive into a desktop. I can make a 2tb filesystem when it has a DOS disk label. If i try to make a GPT disk label, i start getting read/write failures
[13:13] <Nilesh_> is there any software to view .raw images
[13:15] <Fuchs> digikam and its viewer can handle most RAW formats
[13:24] <zetheroo1> ssh seems to be ignoring my ssh key
[13:33] <ducasse> zetheroo1: how did you generate the key?
[13:34] <Teemo> make sure the key is chmod 600 or less
[13:34] <steelnwool> and ssh -v  might point out some issues.
[13:34] <Teemo> I do chmod 400 I have no idea what's the max perms you can give
[13:34] <zetheroo1> I got it working now with one user@system, but it's not working with another user
[13:34] <Teemo> if you do "ssh-add -l" do you see the key?
[13:35] <Teemo> ssh by default will only try ~/.ssh/id_rsa unless you are using ssh-agent
[13:35] <Teemo> and ssh-agent only lasts for the duration of the shell
[13:35] <zetheroo1> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25118855/
[13:36] <zetheroo1> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25118859/
[13:37] <Teemo> is that from the shell where it isn't working?
[13:37] <Teemo> well anyway I see both your keys are added
[13:37] <zetheroo1> the user account I am trying to log into is the one where the key was originally made - is that the problem?
[13:37] <Teemo> no
[13:37] <Teemo> does it work if you explicitly specify the key using ssh -v -i /path/to/key user@host
[13:37] <zetheroo1> Teemo, but I only have one key in .ssh/
[13:37] <Teemo> you only have 1 key in .ssh but you've added another to the agent
[13:38] <zetheroo1> I think they are the same key
[13:38] <Teemo> oh its the same key
[13:38] <Teemo> my bad
[13:38] <qwerko> hello i need help accessing files between host and guest using vmware player on windows 10. I have tried installing vmware tools and keep getting stuck with errors.
[13:39] <zetheroo1> Here is the full output https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25118879/
[13:39] <qwerko> so right now need some help with installing vmware tools
[13:40] <qwerko> i have the vmware tools cd mounted from here is where im having trouble
[13:40] <Teemo> zetheroo1: What kind of server is it? Looks like it's expecting some kerberos auth
[13:40] <Teemo> zetheroo1: is there anything weird in your ~/.ssh/config file?
[13:41] <qwerko> ive copied the contents of the cd to the tmp folder
[13:42] <zetheroo1> Teemo: ah ... might have something to do with the AD creds for that user account
[13:42] <zetheroo1> yeah, that must be it. Sorry ... my bad
[13:44] <zetheroo1> but is it normal to see two keys from ssh-add -l even though there is only one key in .ssh/ ?
[13:47] <qwerko> The installer has detected an existing installation of open-vm-tools packages
[13:47] <qwerko> on this system and will not attempt to remove and replace these user-space
[13:47] <qwerko> applications. It is recommended to use the open-vm-tools packages provided by
[13:47] <qwerko> the operating system. If you do not want to use the existing installation of
[13:47] <qwerko> open-vm-tools packages and use VMware Tools, you must uninstall the
[13:47] <qwerko> open-vm-tools packages and re-run this installer.
[13:49] <qwerko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25118927/
[13:50] <theseb> what are options to put linux on a new Windows laptop w/o risking b0rking the Windows drive?
[13:50] <zetheroo1> if I do 'ssh -Y user@server' can I then pass on the -Y to another user? Like 'su -Y user2' ... but that doesn't work
[13:51] <ouroumov> theseb, there is no risk-free option.
[13:51] <scottjl> theseb: shrink windows partition and dual-boot, install second drive, install onto usb drive/sd card (very slow). pick your poison.
[13:53] <theseb> i like shrinking windows but sounds dangerous and then need to pray grub can work
[13:54] <theseb> please tell me Windoze can be reinstalled easily even if a linux dude b0rks a drive and the MBR
[13:55] <scottjl> if a hard drive can be reformatted, windows can be reinstalled. provided you have install media.
[13:55] <scottjl> use bootable gparted disk and shrink windows partition.
[13:55] <scottjl> theseb: http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[13:56] <qwerko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25118962/
[13:56] <qwerko> please help
[13:56] <scottjl> qwerko: remove open-vm-tools
[13:57] <scottjl> although as it states, you are better off using open-vm-tools as vmware-tools is going away
[13:58] <theseb> scottjl: just bought a laptop w/ Windoze preinstalled...don't think i saw any backup media..is that normal for laptops now?
[13:59] <scottjl> theseb: maybe? depends on vendor, etc. some you can download it from, or they charge you to send you a cd or usb drive. some you can make your own backup media. some have a recovery partition built in. depends on your laptop/vendor. i'd check with them or your documentation.
[14:04] <theseb> scottjl: ok thanks
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:13] <vlt> theseb: You can be quite sure to be able to return to the state before your changes if you just save a complete image of the hard drive somewhere with tools like ddrescue or just cat.
[14:14] <zetheroo1> when I am connected to my work's VPN I can ping/nslookup/dig wiki.domain.local, but in the browsers it doesn't resolve
[14:20] <Papy_T> test | hello
[14:25] <ddoobb> How do I unzip multiple files from the terminal?
[14:25] <jmg8766> i'm in ubuntu 14.04 using upstart, why doesn't /etc/init.d/dbus status display anything and how can i fix it?
[14:25] <ddoobb> And can I delete those files after unzipping with the same command? That would be nice
[14:25] <EriC^^> ddoobb: unzip *.zip
[14:26] <EriC^^> ddoobb: unzip *.zip && rm *.zip   (use at your own responsibility)
[14:27] <Papy_T> Hi. Im new to IRC and such. I try to launch a local IRC server. Im lost. Anyone can point me in the right direction ?
[14:28] <ChogyDan> Papy_T, you want to launch your own server?
[14:29] <Papy_T> That right
[14:29] <Rhapsody> Hey all, I'm using a piece of software called NoMachine to connect to my Ubuntu machine from Windows 10. It works just fine, except for the fact that I'm attempting to log into an account I made called 'rhapsody' but the identifier in the top right (desktop environment is xfce) says root.
[14:29] <ChogyDan> Papy_T, maybe ask in #freenode
[14:30] <Papy_T> One step. Thx
[14:30] <Rhapsody> Presumably I'm actually logging into root despite 'rhapsody' and 'root' having different credentials, and as such I can't do things like launch Chromium since it doesn't like being in root.
[14:31] <scottjl> Rhapsody: is there some place to set your credentials in this software?
[14:31] <Rhapsody> scottjl: Yes, I've confirmed that I'm entering the credentials for 'rhapsody' with the software.
[14:32] <Rhapsody> Thing is, I also have an entry there for the root account, I'll try removing it since it might be getting confused since they're using the same IP. Not sure.
[14:32] <scottjl> Rhapsody: no idea then. sorry. never heard of that software/don't use it.
[14:32] <Rhapsody> All good.
[14:33] <dellhem> I need to change from dhcp to static IP of a remote server via terminal. Is it suficent to set address, netmask and gateway? network, broadcast seems very strange to have to specify..
[14:33] <scottjl> dellhem: you don't HAVE to set network & broadcast, but it's a good idea to do so, esp if they aren't standard anyway.
[14:34] <dellhem> scottjl: standard /24
[14:34] <dellhem> but ok.
[14:34] <scottjl> dellhem: then you can get away without setting them.
[14:34] <Rhapsody> Actually, this is interesting, scottjl, and implies a deeper problem than the software.
[14:34] <Rhapsody> Using 'whoami' reports that the account is 'rhapsody', not 'root'. Yet it's still a root account...
[14:34] <Rhapsody> So how do I remove that flag?
[14:34] <scottjl> Rhapsody: i shy away from 3rd party remote software. i use standard RDP/VNC/XWindows wherever possible.
[14:35] <Rhapsody> Tried using xrdp and couldn't get it to work.
[14:35] <ddoobb> EriC^^: Didn't work. It says "caution: filename not matched" for each file and terminates.
[14:35] <Rhapsody> It's not really a circumstance of the software at this point, more of the account setup.
[14:36] <scottjl> Rhapsody: sorry, but you're asking for support on the ubuntu channel for 3rd party unsupported software. :-(
[14:37] <ddoobb> WHY DOES unzip *.zip not work?
[14:37] <ioria> ddoobb, try with single quotes    unzip '*.zip'
[14:37] <ddoobb> ls *.zip works
[14:37] <scottjl> because of shell expansion
[14:37] <ddoobb> OK thanks guys
[14:41] <zetheroo1> when I am connected to my work's VPN I can ping/nslookup/dig wiki.domain.local, but in the browsers it doesn't resolve
[14:48] <ddoobb> I love you guys.
[15:18] <Onepamopa> can someone explain why this: cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/`ethtool -i ens3f0 | grep bus-info | cut -d ' ' -f 2`/numa_node   returns "-1" ? Why is numa node -1 ..
[15:31] <mxh-> Onepamopa: does it output "-1"? or is that just the response code?
[15:31] <mxh-> return code *
[15:31] <Onepamopa> mxh-, that's what's in the actual "file"
[15:32] <mxh-> Onepamopa: oh! misunderstood. can't help ya.
[16:09] <Trioxin> does build-essentials come preinstalled in 16.04?
[16:09] <Pici> Trioxin: no
[16:09] <Trioxin> hrm. how can I compile my wifi driver?
[16:10] <compdoc> install build-essentials
[16:10] <Trioxin> i can't if I can't get online
[16:14] <tgm4883> !offline | Trioxin
[16:15] <tgm4883> or plug in via ethernet
[16:16] <mxh-> Trioxin: what machine is that? i have not had a driver issue since like 2012 :O
[16:17] <sammyg> What irc client to use on Android?
[16:17] <mxh-> sammyg: irc cloud
[16:18] <mxh-> sammyg: works great. works with znc as well
[16:18] <tgm4883> not even remotely related to Ubuntu
[16:18] <sammyg> Mah- thanks will check it out
[16:18] <sammyg> Mxh-
[16:19] <sammyg> I can not use a broken Ubuntu pc now can i
[16:19] <sammyg> Tgm4883
[16:20] <sammyg> Thanks for your understanding
[16:20] <tgm4883> ...
[16:20] <tgm4883> some people's logic
[16:37] <pizzaBurger> Hello everyone. I'm trying to create a bootable win7 usb, but it seems that "sudo dd" doesn't format it and the recipient computer does not recognize the bootable usb. Any suggestions? Is it due to formatting problems? Thanks.
[16:38] <ducasse> pizzaBurger: https://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-using-ubuntu
[16:44] <pizzaBurger> ducasse: E: Unable to locate package winusb
[16:46] <ducasse> pizzaBurger: it's an unsupported package from a ppa, try finding it elsewhere or use another answer
[16:49] <pizzaBurger> ducasse: thanks, ima reboot to see if it solves anything
[16:51] <Cobrax> hi
[16:51] <Cobrax> what does Debian mean
[16:51] <sary> why don't u ask in #debian !
[16:52] <immu> debain is the father of many Oses upon which Ubuntu is based.
[16:52] <immu> Cobrax, https://www.debian.org/ read here
[16:52] <sary> they're asking what the name stands for..
[16:53] <immu> sary, he can find out by visiting that link Cobrax
[16:54] <sary> imr: right.
[16:56] <ducasse> Cobrax: the name is from the two founders (deborah and ian, iirc)
[16:58] <Cobrax> tbh debian and ubuntu have the best names
[16:59] <Cobrax> better than "Fedora" or "Mint"
[16:59] <Cobrax> by the way
[16:59] <Cobrax> where can I download default wallpapers for Ubuntu 16.04
[16:59] <Cobrax> and later?
[16:59] <Cobrax> the unity ones
[17:02] <ducasse> you  can find the packages at packages.ubuntu.com, but i've no idea which ones the unity wallpapers are in - probably ubuntu-wallpapers-<codename>
[17:26] <Richard_Cavell> Is there a command line command that will "cat" something to the clipboard?
[17:27] <ziz212> Hi, I am straagleing with VPN client and wait till there.
[17:27] <ziz212> and wait until I configure it
[17:28] <ziz212> it is Huwavi E173u
[17:28] <ziz212> Please lhelp me to configure this modem in Ubuntu laptop pc
[17:29] <krytarik> !info xsel | Richard_Cavell
[17:32] <ducasse> ziz212: see if this helps - https://askubuntu.com/questions/492752/huawei-e173-u-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04
[17:32] <Richard_Cavell> krytarik: Thank you, that's just what I needed.  Slightly awkward interface though.
[17:32] <ducasse> Richard_Cavell: there is also xclip
[17:56] <vutral> what application is there for dlna/upnp
[18:01] <rory> I'm pretty sure Rhythmbox which is included, supports that for music
[18:01] <tsarompy> i think amarok does
[18:01] <tsarompy> keyword: think
[18:01] <rory> I bet VLC does too
[18:01] <rory> Kodi definitely does
[18:13] <ShalokShalom> tsarompy: Amarok is not under development anymore
[18:18] <ZetFury> I have a Intel NUC with Ubuntu 17.04 connected to my TV, it goes black randomly for a few seconds a couple minutes after start, then back to normal, it only appear to happen once every start. Did not have this problem with windows on the same NUC, any idea what could cause it?
[18:26] <Apachez> anyone else experienced in ubuntu 16.10 that "view" menu is just a black blob since the past week or so of updates? when I resize the terminal the "view" menu appears and the black blob goes away
[18:34] <hanasaki> why would ubuntu installer boot from usb into a black screen with a single underscore cursor in the top left of screen and what is the fix?   this is before grub loads
[18:35] <oerheks> !nomodeset
[18:37] <hanasaki> oerheks:  thank you.  since grub never shows, how do you set mode?
[18:39] <oerheks> hanasaki, as described, hold sghift or esc on boot, grubmenu pops up
[18:39] <oerheks> -g
[18:39] <oerheks> then hit 'e' etc etc
[18:40] <sary> hanasaki: did you checksum the hashes of the iso before you bruned it to the usb! , and which tool/method you've used!
[18:40] <hanasaki> sary:  no. will checksum now.. however the usb boots fine on another computer
[18:41] <sary> hanasaki: boots fine as in " you see the grub menu and able to reach ubuntu live seassion" !
[18:42] <hanasaki> sary:  yes
[18:42] <hanasaki> sary:  checksum matches
[18:44] <sary> ZetFury: hat sounds like a screen saver configuration problem to me. You could uninstall/disable the screen saver completely. or graphic driver .. the NUC is connected over what..!
[18:45] <sary> hanasaki: then i have no clue is to why it's working fine on a different machine.
[18:45] <hanasaki> this is a uefi box...
[18:46] <sary> is secure boot disabled!
[18:46] <ZetFury> sary: hdmi, dont have screen saver enabled
[18:47] <sary> ZetFury: with HDMI it may be out of signal sync , try resetting the HDMI interface! from the TV menu...
[18:48] <ZetFury> sary: reseting hdmi? how?
[18:50] <sary> ZetFury: from the TV engineer menu , is there "CONTROL" option ..!
[18:50] <oerheks> monitor, own menu, factory settings
[18:50] <john38> Hello
[18:51] <john38> can someone help me
[18:51] <john38> i used to have this Audio Program where i can enhance songs aplification
[18:51] <sary> ZetFury or what oerheks mentioned..
[18:51] <EriC^^> john38: pavucontrol
[18:51] <john38> sound like movie theatre
[18:51] <lordl> Hello guys! Could you help me with something? I am running an Ubuntu Server 17.04 on VirtualBox (64bit) and I want to configure it on Hamachi Network, but I get "A job is running for Raise network interface...".
[18:53] <ZetFury> im gonna try update bios on the nuc aswell
[18:53] <sary> ZetFury: if there is an update.. good idea!
[18:53] <john38> not exactly eric^^
[18:54] <john38> the program allowed me to choose to hear it like for example room, library, movie theatre, auditorium
[18:54] <john38> like that
[18:55] <john38> outdoor park
[18:55] <john38> i had the options to choose those sound
[18:55] <john38> anything like that in software center
[18:55] <cristian_c> hi
[18:56] <sary> john38: i have such app on my andriod device  it came pre-installed with lineage os .. the app is called AudioFix.
[18:56] <cristian_c> lordl: you could use haguichi, in order to make the process easier
[18:56] <john38> is that in software center
[18:56] <cristian_c> I've got a question for you, guys
[18:56] <lordl> cristian_c, but what's the problem with Hamachi?
[18:56] <sary> i don't know.. john38
[18:56] <cristian_c> lordl: I don't know
[18:57] <john38> ok thanks sary..
[18:57] <cristian_c> I've installed a different version of java (needed for compiling)
[18:57] <lordl> cristian_c, yes, but I want to connect to my OpenSSH, FTP, Apache2 servers just if I am on the Hamachi Network.
[18:58] <cristian_c> lordl: oh, sorry, you've got ubuntu server, I didn't temeber
[18:58] <lordl> Did you get me?
[18:59] <ioria> lordl, idk about hamachi or haguici, but usually that msg is a network misconfiguration
[19:00] <lordl> ioria, I also asked on ##networking.
[19:01] <cristian_c> I've installed a different version of java (needed for compiling), and also using update-alternatives --config java and javac, now I see it's always run the jave version previously installed
[19:01] <ioria> lordl, check /etc/network/interface and interfaces.d folder,  and stop/disable NM   (if installed)
[19:02] <lordl> What is NM?
[19:02] <cristian_c> I don't know how to set another version as default, apart update-alternatives command
[19:02] <ioria> network-manager
[19:02] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:03] <lordl> ioria, I can't find it.
[19:03] <ioria> lordl,  what you can't find  ?
[19:03] <lordl> ioria, the network manager.
[19:04] <tgm4883> cristian_c: have you tried just setting JAVA_HOME prior to compiling? Or do you want to use the new version of Java for everything?
[19:04] <ioria> lordl,  dpkg -l network-manager
[19:04] <cristian_c> :O
[19:04] <lordl> ioria, what does it do?
[19:04] <ioria> lordl,  it tells you if it's installed
[19:04] <cristian_c> tgm4883: I accept both the ideas
[19:05] <lordl> ioria, it is not installed.
[19:05] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:05] <ioria> lordl,  ok, so check your interfaces file
[19:05] <tgm4883> cristian_c: I'd try "JAVA_HOME=<path to new java directory" <compile command>"
[19:05] <tgm4883> cristian_c: I'd try "JAVA_HOME=<path to new java directory> <compile command>"
[19:06] <cristian_c> tgm4883: update.alternatives recognizes the desired version, and apparently it put a * next to it, but it's not used. It worked only one time
[19:06] <cristian_c> tgm4883: ok, thanks
[19:06] <lordl> ioria, they are good.
[19:06] <lordl> They work on Bridge Adapter.
[19:06] <lordl> I can access my servers through the public IP address.
[19:06] <ioria> ok
[19:06] <lordl> But I want to access them through the Hamachi IP address.
[19:07] <lordl> If I am connected to my Hamachi Network.
[19:07] <ioria> lordl,  cannot help ya there, sy
[19:07] <afmza> Please help -> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/379364/nvidia-settings-failed-to-connect-to-mir
[19:07] <lordl> ioria, it's okay, but tell me how to send green messages.
[19:07] <lordl> :)
[19:07] <lordl> I see your name in green color.
[19:07] <ioria> lordl,  green msg  ? you mean highlight ?
[19:08] <lordl> Oh.
[19:08] <lordl> But how.
[19:08] <lordl> ?
[19:08] <ioria> lordl,  just type the nickname
[19:08] <lordl> ioria, do you see my name green?
[19:08] <ioria> lordl,  nope, red ... :þ
[19:08] <lordl> Oh. :)
[19:09] <lordl> But I've typed your name.
[19:09] <tgm4883> how about not using enter as punctuation?
[19:09] <oerheks> afmza, i thought mir does not need nvidia drivers/settings?
[19:09] <ioria> lordl,  i guess is irc client  sensitive
[19:09] <afmza> oerheks, no idea man..
[19:09] <lordl> What IRC client do you use?
[19:09] <lordl> I am using HexChat.
[19:10] <ioria> lordl,  weird,.... xchat
[19:10] <lordl> :D
[19:13] <arun007> I am using weechat
[19:15] <hanasaki> anyway to get a debian 9 iso with kernel 4.10 or higher?
[19:15] <cristian_c> tgm4883: I've tried the following prefix: JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64 , but it has no effects
[19:16] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: hello
[19:16] <tgm4883> cristian_c: what's the full commandl line you're running to compile it
[19:16] <cristian_c> tgm4883: JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64 make clobber
[19:18] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: :) Good that I can be here .
[19:28] <swift110> hey
[19:29] <arun007> hey
[19:41] <hanasaki> oerheks: hold down shift or ESC does not boot to the grub menu . still boots to black screen
[19:50] <sary> IT's strange that you get a black screen before the point of reaching GRUB..
[19:52] <sary> hanasaki: does that machine has a hybrid/dual graphics ..! did you dd the iso , or used a tool?
[19:53] <hanasaki> I used DD
[19:54] <hanasaki> sary:  machine has intel 500 / it's a n3450 cpu
[19:59] <sary> hanasaki: thanks, prehaps try using a usb tool unetbootin and burn the iso with it.. see how it goes! the other thing that comes to mind is maybe try disabling VT-X and see if that helps.
[19:59] <hanasaki> sary:  how do you disable vtx?
[20:00] <hanasaki> sary:  I found a few references to kernel 4.10 is needed for some machines due to systemd
[20:03] <hanasaki> sary:  I miss BIOS :(
[20:03] <SimonNL> https://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time     hanasaki
[20:04] <hanasaki> SimonNL:  I don't think it gets as far as grub
[20:04] <hanasaki> SimonNL:  I have done the shift and ESC without a boot menu
[20:04] <SimonNL> held shift down all the time ?
[20:05] <sary> hanasaki: you disable VT-x from the BIOS.. systemd is in the user space.. will deal with that later .. you can't even reach the GRUB menu from the instaaltion media.
[20:05] <sary> hanasaki: what do you mean you miss BIOS.. is the BIOS up-todate!
[20:05] <SimonNL> press left shift hold it down then press power button to boot and release left shift when notice appears at top of screen saying grub menu is been loaded
[20:06] <hanasaki> sary:  it's a new pc /  erleased about 6 weeks ago. UEFI no bios
[20:06] <sary> they get the black screen before reaching the GRUB menu.
[20:07] <hanasaki> SimonNL:  tried that... no grub loaded at all.. just a black screen with a underscore in the top left
[20:08] <sary> hanasaki: Nice.. well with UEFI you need to press Esc... but the machine is stuck with a black screen and unable to reach the media installation. which strange to me!
[20:09] <hanasaki> sary:  tried ESC also.... zip :(    UEFI doesn't even seem to have its own built in stuff like BIOS had... ie configs for chips and such
[20:09] <cristian_c> tgm4883: any other ideas?
[20:13] <sary> hanasaki: I would try using unetbootin to burn the iso again .. is the iso file a 32-bit?
[20:17] <sary> hanasaki: but does your machine's UEFI BIOS has an option that is set to DOS ..!
[20:20] <SimonNL> hanasaki: have you burned your usb stick the proper way ?   https://www.google.nl/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=HiezVo68JuqI8QfboaOwAw&gws_rd=ssl#q=burning+usb+stick+for+ubuntu+uefi+bootable
[20:38] <Pici> yskapell: wha/25
[20:53] <shmu> Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 won't wake up after suspend, blank screen, hd working etc., alt+ctrl+[1-7] not working, alt+shift+sysreq+REISUB does reboot
[20:53] <shmu> How can I debug this?
[20:53] <shmu> thx
[20:56] <shmu> reading this meanwhile: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[20:59] <badet0s> shmu: maybe u dont have enough ram ?
[20:59] <badet0s> i have no idea
[21:00] <shmu> badet0s, it's a new laptop, 16gb, I believe that's enough
[21:00] <shmu> ASUS UX560U if that matters
[21:00] <sary> also what's the status of swap..
[21:00] <glitsj16> shmu: Anything relevant in your logs? You can try 'dmesg -T | grep Freez -A4' for starters
[21:02] <shmu> glitsj16, I'm trying another suspend now and will run the command after I boot anew
[21:02] <shmu> brb
[21:05] <shmu> glitsj16, hello again. "dmesg -T | grep Freez -A4" returns nothing
[21:05] <shmu> which I guess makes sense because dmesg is reset every boot, no?
[21:06] <shmu> oh and another weird thing. This time alt+shift+sysrq didn't work, didn't do anything
[21:06] <glitsj16> shmu: wb, yes it does
[21:06] <glitsj16> shmu: yet still no 'regular' resume from suspend?
[21:07] <eze> do you know where I can ask about apt-key?
[21:07] <shmu> glitsj16, no. just blank screen and lights/hd on
[21:08] <glitsj16> shmu: there's also journalctl you can look at, if you didn't change systemd defaults that is kept over sequential boots
[21:09] <shmu> glitsj16, what to search in it? you mean the output of journalctl?
[21:09] <shmu> no grep -i freez
[21:09] <badet0s> journalctl -r to see the last entries ?
[21:10] <glitsj16> shmu: that's a specific dmesg thing, try grepping for 'rror' and ^
[21:10] <glitsj16> what badet0s said
[21:11] <badet0s> but sometimes theres no log if its a crash
[21:11] <glitsj16> yeah, what doesn't help debugging things like that
[21:11] <shmu> glitsj16, badet0s, I look at journalctl -r but not sure what to look for
[21:12] <sary> successful hibernation state results in a successful resume. Hibernate is not The amount of ram allocated to swap is important because all process and system status data is written to swap before hibernation, and then retrieved from swap. If inadequate swap is allocated, resume will fail and not result in a return to run-state. So, check if swap is on! and if it's on is the swap to ram ratio is OK.
[21:14] <shmu> sary, was that addressed to me? If so, I'm doing suspend to RAM not to disk so I believe swap/ram is not the case here
[21:14] <badet0s> try to make a swap file just to check ?
[21:14] <badet0s> since we have no other things to go for
[21:15] <FRWB> so im trying to install ubuntu 16.04.2 desktop on a system76 bonobo extreme and i can't even seem to get to the menu on the live dvd
[21:16] <shmu> badet0s, thing is I did a 4GB swap and my RAM is 16GB as I thought I will probably never use the swap much
[21:16] <shmu> I believe that's problematic with suspend to disk
[21:16] <FRWB> after showing the ubuntu logo for a bit it goes to showing the boot log which just shows nouveau disp with some random numbers and a timestamp
[21:16] <FRWB> then it makes that bongo sound effect and doesn't move...
[21:17] <shmu> you know, I read about people suspending via command line and not via close lid and then their wake up would work. I just didn't find how to command line suspend on Ubuntu GNOME :) google!
[21:17] <FRWB> any ideas?
[21:18] <shmu> brb
[21:20] <sary> shmu: yes, that out for you .. are there any media devices attached while you try to suspen to RAM!
[21:20] <sary> FRWB: you're not able to reach the GRUB Menu!
[21:21] <FRWB> sary: well the ubuntu logo comes up... so i should be able to get it by holding shift before that right?
[21:22] <sary> FRWB: Yes .. if you do does the menu shows up!
[21:22] <shmu> sary, badet0s, suspend via command line also wakes up to blank screen. Well friends thanks for the advice but I'll have to go now and not suspend to anything for now. Your help is appreciated. Good night.
[21:23] <FRWB> sary, it has linux on it already so i might be able to lemme see
[21:24] <sary> shmu: no probelm .. maybe another devices interrupting the suspend to ram.. just athough!
[21:26] <FRWB> sary: i can get to the grub loader if i don't boot from disc, but the boot option there is to boot into the existing ubuntu os on the hdd
[21:26] <FRWB> if i choose to boot from disc and immediately hold shift the grub menu still doesn't come up :/
[21:33] <FRWB> ok got the grub menu up from disc finally
[21:34] <FRWB> guess it's been trying the first option which is boot from disc to try ubuntu first, and it's freezing during boot, so maybe not a good idea to format?
[21:36] <sary> FRWB: excuse me.. i had a phone call which distracted me..
[21:37] <sary> so what exactly are you trying to achive .. install onter ubuntu version along side the first one!
[21:37] <FRWB> sary: naw i want to do a clean wipe and install 16, currently runnig 15
[21:37] <sary> with that usb/grub behaviour maybe try to set the boot option in BIOS to boot from USB..
[21:38] <FRWB> figured i should try it with a live first to make sure everything works
[21:38] <FRWB> using a dvd
[21:38] <sary> FRWB: ok,, yeah good idea..
[21:39] <FRWB> now seems like a different issue. cursor on screen and i can here the dvd drive reading. cursor isn't blinking or responding though.... guess i'll wait
[21:40] <sary> what was the speed of burnning the iso to dvd did you select ..
[21:41] <FRWB> sary: i think it did it at 4.8x or so
[21:41] <FRWB> it was pretty quick, i used busero or whatever
[21:42] <sary> FRWB: Ok that's the maximum recommended speed ..
[21:42] <sary> Booting from usb is faster though ..
[21:43] <FRWB> argh i forgot mine today :"(
[21:45] <sary> FRWB: :) ., you'll have to bare with speed of the disk then..
[21:46] <FRWB> sary: it's been a good 5 or 10 min and i don't hear the disc reading anymore, seems frozen :/
[21:46] <sary> will you be installing on a laptop or a desktop..
[21:46] <FRWB> laptop, but it's a system76 bonobo extreme
[21:47] <sary> i haven't seen one of those .. lemme check the specs real quick..
[21:48] <FRWB> they come shipped with ubuntu
[21:49] <FRWB> i'm wondering if i should remake the disc at a lower speed or just go ahead and install ubuntu
[21:50] <sary> Good specs man ..
[21:51] <sary> Yeah if it's hangin i would go with a 2x speed.
[21:51] <FRWB> blah k
[21:54] <FRWB> ah looks like i had it set on maximum speed last time
[21:54] <FRWB> lowest brasero goes is 3x
[21:54] <FRWB> writin at 3x
[21:55] <sary> also make sure the wifi hardware switch is on before you boot into the live session and enable the wifi from network manager before you install.. i've seen some users on the forums havin' their laptops wifi hard blocked which a pain to switch iton from the software. FRWB
[21:55] <sary> well, that's fear speed .
[21:56] <sary> should be ok.
[21:56] <sary> s/fear/fair
[22:02] <FRWB> i don't think it has a physical wifi toggle switch
[22:02] <FRWB> i'm already using it on wifi so should stay on i'd think
[22:03] <sary> it's a function F key then..
[22:04] <sary> yeah leave it on as it is.
[22:10] <sary> This is what a m talkin' about https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365838
[22:15] <FRWB> yeah i know what you're talking about.
[22:16] <FRWB> so far i'm at the same thing... black screen, white shell cursor that doesn't blink or respond in the top left
[22:16] <FRWB> i'll wait a bit longer then restart and check the disk for defects i guess...
[22:22] <FRWB> sary: is there a way to disable nouveau on boot?
[22:26] <sary> FRWB: Yes, you'll need to add nouveau.modeset=0 as kerenl boot parameter ..Highlight the option 'Try Ubuntu without installing' and press the E key. Add nouveau.modeset=0 to the end of the linux line - press Ctrl+X or F10 .
[22:27] <FRWB> alright. i have a hunch that's causing issues so i'll give it that a shot thanks...
[22:28] <sary> will be wating , yw/
[22:29] <FRWB> sary:  just to verify, i picked the first iso in this list, http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.2/
[22:30] <sary> FRWB: Ok, and did you checksum the hashes of it..
[22:30] <FRWB> sary: and is it possible that installing it to the hdd will work and boot fine? maybe it's something to do with trying to boot from disc?
[22:30] <FRWB> no i didn't :o
[22:31] <FRWB> performing a checksum on the hashes would only be to make sure i'm getting it from the proper source no?
[22:32] <sary> FRWB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[22:32] <sary> Yeah that's one bit about matching the hashes ..
[22:33] <sary> FRWB: we usually boot from disk .. you will be formatting the HDD and do a fresh install .. did i understand you right on this one or ..
[22:34] <FRWB> sary: yeah that's correct but i can access the grub of the disc, which has the option to install ubuntu or try ubuntu from disc
[22:36] <sary> ok in this case select highlight try ubuntu and hit 'e'  paste that kernel boot option after quite splash i think not before it.
[22:36] <FRWB> although it doesn't look like a grub... and it's not labeld grub...
[22:36] <FRWB> alright
[22:37] <sary> wait what.. other than grun i don't know which menu would that be..!
[22:37] <sary> s/grun/grub
[22:38] <kubunted> Updated firefox , all extensions are gone. Does it ever end? Is linux really ,as so more and more often pointed by the experts , turning into a piece of sh!t ?
[22:39] <kubunted> plus some kinda freaky certificate complaints at random and flickering desktop...make sence
[22:40] <sary> linux is just a kernel .. how is that relevent to a firefox issue!
[22:40] <sary> Wow.. you have some use space issues..
[22:40] <FRWB> yea sorry sary it's not the grub of the disk, when i choose to boot from disk and not hit anything it tries to load it up, if i tap shift i get a basic splash menu
[22:41] <FRWB> hitting e on 'try ubuntu without installing' doesn't do anything
[22:41] <kubunted> sary: quit insulting intelligence with patent insectoidness
[22:42] <kubunted> boggles the mind, linux is rapidly turning into new windows95
[22:42] <FRWB> sary:  there are options f1 through f6, f6 being 'other options' which has a toggle for 'expert mode', and a couple other things
[22:42] <FRWB> oh but i got the boot options line up with that
[22:43] <FRWB> let me put that bit of code you gave me in there
[22:43] <sary> FRWB: yeah , i think F6 will get you the linux- kernel boot line .. i haven't used the installer for a while.
[22:44] <FRWB> sary: the end of the line is quiet splash ---
[22:44] <FRWB> should i just shove that command you gave at the end?
[22:45] <sary> kubunted: i can care less about your intellect , please take your yappin' elsewhere!
[22:45] <sary> FRWB: Yep , that's it :)
[22:46] <FRWB> sweet now i got a retro load screen, fingers crossed
[22:48] <kubunted> insects get out of linux before you've "developed" it into complete you know what
[22:49] <sary> FRWB: after the installation with on the first reboot you might need to install the nvidia driver.. then you shouldn't need to boot witht that kerenl boot parameter.. or maybe you'll just need to blacklist the free driver.. will see!
[22:49] <FRWB> sary:  i got a white mouse cursor whoo
[22:49] <FRWB> yeah i was reading this thread, https://askubuntu.com/questions/861743/installation-of-ubuntu-16-04-from-a-usb-drive-freezes
[22:50] <sary> thaha, nice :)
[22:50] <FRWB> sweet ive got X
[22:53] <FRWB> sary: how did you know the syntax for disabling nouveau? experience or is there a handy reference somewhere? lol
[22:54] <sary> what else you've got.. i preassume the normal ubuntu iso has unity DE pre-loadded!
[22:54] <FRWB> indeed it does
[22:54] <FRWB> should i check this third party box ?
[22:55] <FRWB> install third party software for graphics, wifi, etc?
[22:55] <sary> FRWB: i had read from a refernce for someone who had an issue with the nvidia driver unable to login .. i think it was melissa_Mc
[22:55] <sary> FRWB: Yes.. go for it..
[22:56] <sary> if you don't want flash, you can remove it later..
[22:56] <arooni> anyone here use tmux with ubuntu?  i tried to addd bind-key -n C-S-z resize-pane -Z  ;; to my tmux conf ; but cant seem to get it work
[22:58] <sary> FRWB: http://sprunge.us/TBXB
[22:58] <FRWB> oh interesting i have the option to upgrade from my 15.04 to 16.04
[22:58] <FRWB> someone mentioned that might break stuff
[22:58] <FRWB> oh nice
[22:58] <sary> Yeah, this option is new to the installer..
[23:00] <sary> arooni: Did you see what the man page says about it..
[23:02] <FRWB> theres an 'erase disk and install ubuntu' option and an 'erase ubuntu 15.04 and reinstall' option
[23:02] <fuzzyhorns> i use i3 on ubuntu 17 -- whenever a web page opens a file browser my screen blanks to white. unsure what's going on
[23:02] <arooni> sary: resize-pane -Z works fine via the command line; but when i try to set it to control shift z it doesnt seem to work
[23:02] <fuzzyhorns> i tried a few different things to fix it, including switching my default file browser to thunar
[23:15] <Ineedhelppls> Hi y'all, I'm having some serious trouble with apt, and have been unable to resolve my issue after several days of searching and testing. I've reset my apt.sources to default, but it doesn't seem to help
[23:15] <Ineedhelppls> I keep getting the error: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[23:24] <chrisml> came round to this when installing letsencrypt/certbot: Install these packages without verification? [y/N], should I or shouldn't i?
[23:26] <FRWB> sary: yeah seems that i need to put the same boot parameter in again after install, makes sense
[23:26] <chrisml> `python-enum23`
[23:31] <tgm4883> chrisml: there isn't enough information there to answer the question
[23:31] <chrisml> tgm4883 i proceeded and got this: Err http://repo.saltstack.com/apt/ubuntu/ubuntu14/latest/ trusty/main python-enum34 all 1.0.4-1 (404 not found)
[23:32] <tgm4883> chrisml: you're basically asking us if the files you have are actually from letsencrypt or if they are from somewhere else by just giving us the name of the package
[23:32] <chrisml> tgm4883 sorry, i'm a noob :D
[23:33] <chrisml> i'm assuming this is the correct url, http://repo.saltstack.com/apt/ubuntu/14.04/amd64/latest/
[23:33] <tgm4883> chrisml: no worries.
[23:33] <chrisml> but idk why it would have changed
[23:33] <kotek> hi !
[23:33] <tgm4883> chrisml: well, there's more to it than that
[23:34] <chrisml> tgm4883 i wish i could understand apt properly
[23:34] <tgm4883> chrisml: are you following some guide or something?
[23:34] <chrisml> tgm4883 nope, literally just tying to get an ssl certificate with certbot
[23:34] <FRWB> where am i supposed to enter my boot paramater in the grub e setparams file?
[23:34] <tgm4883> chrisml: where are you getting certbot from?
[23:34] <kotek> is it possible to assign de to user account
[23:34] <kotek> ?
[23:35] <PipeItToDevNull> chrisml, I would
[23:35] <chrisml> tgm4883 ppa
[23:35] <FRWB> i tried putting it at the very bottom but no luck
[23:35] <tgm4883> chrisml: well IDK what that saltstack thing is. How did you add the PPA?
[23:35] <chrisml> tgm4883 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:certbot/certbot
[23:35] <kotek> anybody?
[23:36] <tgm4883> chrisml: and you tried installing 'python-certbot-apache' ?
[23:36] <chrisml> tgm4883 apt-get install certbot
[23:36] <chrisml> after update...
[23:36] <bazhang> kotek, this is an ubuntu support channel
[23:37] <chrisml> which also fails for those saltstack packages
[23:37] <tgm4883> chrisml: hmm, what's the output of 'apt policy certbot'
[23:37] <bazhang> kotek did you have any support issues
[23:37] <kotek> bazhang i am running ubuntu and asking about it
[23:37] <chrisml> tgm4883 E: Invalid operation policy
[23:37] <bazhang> kotek, what is your issue
[23:37] <chrisml> tgm4883 sorry, 14.04
[23:37] <tgm4883> chrisml: oh, 14.04, what about 'apt-cache policy certbot'
[23:38] <FRWB> nvm got it
[23:38] <kotek> bazhang MY QUESTION is it possible to assign desktop environment to different user accounts by default?
[23:38] <tgm4883> !pastebin | chrisml
[23:38] <chrisml> tgm4883 http://paste.ubuntu.com/25121983/
[23:38] <bazhang> kotek, you want to different user accounts, each with a different de?
[23:39] <chrisml> tgm4883 ah, i remember seeing those when installing on another machine, but it installed that time
[23:39] <kotek> bazhang, yes exactly
[23:39] <tgm4883> chrisml: ok, you did that. Can you pastebin the full output of 'sudo apt-get install certbot'
[23:39] <bazhang> kotek, have you looked into save destop settings
[23:39] <bazhang> k
[23:39] <kotek> bazhang, no where can i find it ?
[23:40] <bazhang> kotek, each user would need to login to the DE they wished to use, of course
[23:40] <chrisml> tgm4883 http://paste.ubuntu.com/25121988/
[23:40] <kotek> i see ok stupid question
[23:40] <kotek> sorry
[23:40] <tgm4883> chrisml: one sec
[23:41] <chrisml> tgm4883 thanks
[23:43] <tgm4883> chrisml: are you also trying to use salt?
[23:43] <chrisml> tgm4883 nope
[23:43] <tgm4883> Ok, can you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and see if one of the filenames references salt?
[23:44] <chrisml> tgm4883 yes two, one .save
[23:44] <kotek> what level of knowledge is needed to speak here?
[23:44] <tgm4883> kotek: beginner
[23:44] <kotek> :)
[23:44] <kotek> thx
[23:44] <kotek> i love ubuntu
[23:45] <kotek> it has so many possibilities that it makes me crasy
[23:45] <kotek> crazy*
[23:45] <tgm4883> chrisml: ok, so if it was me I would move both of those files somewhere else (like your home directory). Then run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install certbot'
[23:45] <chrisml> tgm4883 will try :)
[23:45] <tgm4883> kotek: ok, I did say beginner but this is the support channel. If you want to discuss ubuntu there is #ubuntu-discuss
[23:45] <kotek> ok thx for info
[23:46] <tgm4883> chrisml: basically you have the salt repository active and when you try to install certbot it finds one package that it thinks is the newest on the salt repo. So moving those files and running apt-get update will disable the repos
[23:47] <tgm4883> chrisml: also, any specific reason you're using such an old version of ubuntu?
[23:47] <chrisml> tgm4883 worked. so i need to figure out what is using saltstack?
[23:47] <tgm4883> chrisml: well saltstack is automation software
[23:47] <chrisml> tgm4883 just haven't learnt the differences on xenial yet
[23:47] <tgm4883> but yea, something added it so you should figure out what. Can you do 'dpkg -l | grep salt'
[23:48] <chrisml> tgm4883 "shared libraries that salt requires for all packages"
[23:48] <tgm4883> what's the full line?
[23:48] <chrisml> sorry
[23:49] <chrisml> rc  salt-common                          2015.8.5+ds-1                                        all
[23:49] <chrisml> plus the above
[23:49] <tgm4883> ok, so it's not even installed anymore
[23:49] <tgm4883> rc means "removed/configure". So it's configuration files are there but the package has been removed
[23:49] <tgm4883> so I'd think that removing those will cause you no issues
[23:49] <chrisml> awesome
[23:50] <chrisml> tgm4883 i owe you a beer :P
[23:50] <tgm4883> chrisml: I prefer root beer floats, but instead of that you can just pay it forward and help someone else in the future
[23:51] <chrisml> haha, will do for sure
[23:56] <nicomachus> Hi all. I've never been good with user permissions, and I want to avoid breaking things. Can someone walk me through giving the user 'mopidy' access to read ~/Music?
[23:58] <Sleaker> nicomachus: well ~ is the users home directory.. so ~/Music would by default mean /home/mopidy/Music... but I have a feeling you mean your default login user and you want to give others access to that.
[23:59] <Sleaker> if you don't care too much about everyone having read permissions on it you can chmod +r the directory. if you need write permissions, you can add the user to a specific group, and g+wr the group.