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lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:19
lordievaderGood morning06:27
lotuspsychjemorning lordievader06:38
lordievaderHey lotuspsychje, how are you?06:42
lotuspsychjegreat lordievader today delivery of a hp envy to a customer06:42
lordievaderNice, with only Ubu loaded?06:43
lotuspsychjelordievader: im selling accesoires also and win repairs too06:44
lotuspsychjelordievader: but ill concentrate on ubuntu as much as i can06:44
lotuspsychjemorning EriC^^06:44
EriC^^morning06:44
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: we went to baby driver in theaters yesterday06:45
lordievaderlotuspsychje: Right, nice :)06:45
lordievaderHey EriC^^06:45
EriC^^lotuspsychje: nice i catched it online06:45
EriC^^hey lordievader06:45
EriC^^lotuspsychje: you likey?06:45
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: yeah was pretty original06:46
EriC^^there's a good movie coming out (i think) war of the planet apes or something06:46
lotuspsychjei always like robbery movies :p06:46
EriC^^heh :D06:46
lotuspsychjeyeah its playing at theaters too EriC^^06:47
EriC^^i'm waiting for it to hit online06:47
EriC^^movienight.ws06:47
EriC^^i got a netflix trial btw06:47
EriC^^but they dont have anything :/06:47
EriC^^very lame06:47
lotuspsychjelol06:47
EriC^^my dad was here so i told him use that cc on it free trial06:47
EriC^^:D06:47
EriC^^all old movies06:48
lordievaderEriC^^: We just finished season one of Dirk Gently on Netflix.06:48
EriC^^lordievader: any good?06:48
lordievaderIt was quite enjoyable, nothing like the books. But good fun.06:48
EriC^^aha cool06:48
lordievaderStranger Things is also very nice to watch.06:49
EriC^^aha07:08
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/ubports-working-lately-on-ubuntu-touch-port-for-nexus-5-based-on-ubuntu-16-04-517027.shtml07:37
BluesKajHowdy folks09:58
lotuspsychjegood afternoon to all11:44
oerhekshey lotuspsychje11:45
lotuspsychjehey oerheks can you warm yourself?11:45
oerheks28.9 °C Feels Like 31 °C11:46
oerhekssure, if i turn on the heater11:46
lotuspsychjethey say rain & thunder is comming but we didnt see a single drop yet11:46
oerhekswe do .. https://www.buienradar.nl/home/onweer11:46
lotuspsychjewelcome Tesla42 & Dreyk11:47
lotuspsychjeoerheks: yesterday we went to cadzand to cool down :p11:49
lotuspsychjenext on our list is breskens11:51
oerheksZandvoort is 20 min away, on the bicycle11:52
oerheksno parking-fee, walking, waiting..11:52
lotuspsychjenice11:52
lotuspsychjealot of electric bikes in cadzand omg11:53
lotuspsychjepopular cycling across the beachlines11:53
oerheksyes, fools in cars are silly11:54
oerheksblack cars :-D11:55
lotuspsychjelol11:55
oerhekswhen you open the door, it is like an invisable fire11:55
lotuspsychjethe batmobile?11:56
oerheksbrrr aliens11:56
lotuspsychjelol11:56
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial11:58
ubot5linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.83.89 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB11:58
lordievader!info linux-image-generic artful12:01
ubot5linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.11.0.10.10 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB12:01
lotuspsychjehow come that lenovo of my customer had 4.8 kernel on .2 xenial?12:02
lordievaderIs HWE still a thing?12:03
lordievaderI.e. backporting a kernel of a newer release.12:03
lotuspsychjebut i downloaded latest ubuntu iso of xenial12:03
lotuspsychjewhy isnt that 4.4.0.83 then?12:04
lordievaderNo idea, the Ubuntu kernel selection has always been somewhat of a mystery to me.12:07
lotuspsychjeweird situation12:08
naccwhat's the q?12:08
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lotuspsychjeaha12:09
lotuspsychjehttps://askubuntu.com/questions/885054/upgrade-16-04-2-lts-to-kernel-version-4-812:09
lotuspsychjenacc: i had a lenovo xenial 16.04.2 box that had flickering bug on 4.8 kernel fresh iso12:10
nacclotuspsychje: isntalled yourself, or as installed by the venodr?12:10
lotuspsychjenacc: i had to reinstall 16.04 to get back to 4.4 kernel to get rid of that bug12:10
lotuspsychjenacc: own install12:11
nacclotuspsychje: no, you can install the correct kernel package by opting into it12:11
nacclotuspsychje: linux-generic xserver-xorg vs. linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.0412:11
lotuspsychjenacc: users have to install their own kernels by default?12:12
nacclotuspsychje: not sure i follow12:13
nacclotuspsychje: if you install 16.04.2, you wanted the hwe kernel12:14
lotuspsychjenacc: well latest .2 xenial iso resulted to 4.8 kernel on that box, is that normal?12:14
nacclotuspsychje: yes, that's the hwe kernel12:15
nacclotuspsychje: so the story is (for .2):12:15
naccif you fresh isntall, you get hwe12:15
naccif you upgrade from .1 -> .2 you have to opt-in12:15
lotuspsychjenacc: ok12:15
nacci *believe* this was true for 14.04.* as well12:15
lordievaderThought so12:15
lotuspsychjenacc: can you explain the logic of that?12:15
nacclotuspsychje: i'm not on the kernel team, so not really :)12:15
lordievaderIsn't it true for all LTS releases?12:15
nacclotuspsychje: but i think it's always been the way12:15
lotuspsychjeoh okay tnx for clearing that out12:16
nacclotuspsychje: that's why 16.04.1 is supported for 5 years on its12:16
nacc*its own12:16
lotuspsychjenacc: so to avoid fresh bugs for new customers i should stick to .1?12:16
nacclotuspsychje: to be clear, .1 (updated) and .2 (updated) re the same, with different hwe stacks instaleld by default12:18
lotuspsychjekk12:18
immuEriC^^, BluesKaj lordievader19:14
lordievaderGood evening immu19:15
nicomachuso/19:16
nicomachusdaftykins around?19:17
lordievaderHaven't seen him.19:17
nicomachuspoop.19:19
immuGoodnight :) lordievader19:55
lordievaderHow are you doing?19:55
immugood20:12
immulistening to soul foul music20:12
immuwanna hear20:12
lordievaderNah, I'm going to bed soon20:12
nicomachuswhat are you listening on?20:13
immuyoutunbe20:13
immuhttps://youtu.be/a18py61_F_w20:13
immuclick on CC for english subtitles20:14
immubrb20:14
immuback20:23
immulordievader, back EriC^^20:25
immuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R5YWh45s6I another one20:26
immugoood nite20:39
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